Real Racing and Star Defense Sales?

[Genius]

I think Star Defense and Real Racing are going to have sales cause neither is in the top 100 apps. And in the top 100 Games section in iTunes Real Racing is #94 and Star Defense isn't even there.

Anyone Agree?

[yournothere]

I think Star Defense and Real Racing are going to have sales cause neither is in the top 100 apps. And in the top 100 Games section in iTunes Real Racing is #94 and Star Defense isn't even there.

Anyone Agree?

no i dont agree. All cause games that are really good arent in the top 100 doesnt mean there are getting a price drop.

[Genius]

But the companys expected them to do REALLY well. they even got high ratings from gaming websites. They aren't getting lots if buisness.

[Eli]

But the companys expected them to do REALLY well. they even got high ratings from gaming websites. They aren't getting lots if buisness.

How do you know? Did they publish their sales figures somewhere? At the price points both games are currently being sold at they could be making tons of money without the quantity of sales required to be listed on the top lists.

[ericxd]

How do you know? Did they publish their sales figures somewhere? At the price points both games are currently being sold at they could be making tons of money without the quantity of sales required to be listed on the top lists.

u dont have to see their sales to know...anyways games on the Top 100 list literally sells themselves. so even if RR dropped to 6.99 like NFS, they easily make up for the 3 sales to top 1 '9.99' sales. I think its worth it.

[PrivateJoker]

I expect Real Racing may get a price drop one day, but not any day soon. Star Defense is a steal anyway and I don't see that dropping in the short run.

[Eli]

They aren't getting lots if buisness.

u dont have to see their sales to know

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[ericxd]

I expect Real Racing may get a price drop one day, but not any day soon. Star Defense is a steal anyway and I don't see that dropping in the short run.

Other than being 3D, I dont find it special at all. and the 3D is just a preference. For me, I hated the view.

[Genius]

Well when do u think they'll be on sale?

[PrivateJoker]

Other than being 3D, I dont find it special at all. and the 3D is just a preference. For me, I hated the view.

It took me awhile to get into it, but it's a decent game that could do with some tweaks to make it better like tower damage info and upgrade info and not having to press the towers twice to get the upgrade screen.

[PrivateJoker]

Well when do u think they'll be on sale?

Doh, who knows....I just don't think you should hold your breath is all.

[wootbean]

I'd say Real racing is more likely to get a price drop than star defense

[Genius]

I'd say Real racing is more likely to get a price drop than star defense

Well star defense isn't in the top 100 games so... I think it will go on sale. Before real racing

[upsidedown]

I doubt star defense goes on sale. Rolando when it was (and still is) priced at six bucks it never dropped any lower i dont think. Real Racing could.. but i dont think it will. Rolando 2 it hink will drop eventually just like rolando dropped from ten to six.

[PeterM11]

Well when do u think they'll be on sale?
It doesn't really matter when anyone thinks there will be a sale because no one knows but the developers.
That being said they are both high quality games and well worth the money and I hope that they do not get price drops because the developers deserve the money they are asking for them.
They most likely will one day see a drop in price but I do not think that will be any day soon.
Since you can for some reason just say they are getting bad sales and be right I'm gonna go ahead and say they are getting great sales and be right.:)

Anyways, the App Store will never be able to flourish with people always waiting and begging for sales. I hope this changes some day.

[anonymous]

I think Star Defense and Real Racing are going to have sales cause neither is in the top 100 apps. And in the top 100 Games section in iTunes Real Racing is #94 and Star Defense isn't even there.

Anyone Agree?

I hope real racing gets one real quick!!!

[nippyjun]

Does Star Defense have in app purchases yet? If they do, then lowering the entry price may be offset by ingame purchases.

[SoCal_Sponger]

ngmoco might drop the price (like we have seen with past games), but I hope Firemint doesnt. Not only does the game deserves to stay $10, I think Firemint will be more cautious about price dropping because its their first big game and they want the AppStore to respect $10 games. I don't think they want to make a name out of themselves like Gameloft just did.

[robertf224]

They're gonna get lite versions, not sales

[nippyjun]

They're gonna get lite versions, not sales

Good point.

[Eli]

ngmoco might drop the price (like we have seen with past games), but I hope Firemint doesnt. Not only does the game deserves to stay $10, I think Firemint will be more cautious about price dropping because its their first big game and they want the AppStore to respect $10 games. I don't think they want to make a name out of themselves like Gameloft just did.

This is totally correct in my opinion. They need to keep their prices constant, or reasonably constant if they want to be taken seriously as "premium" game developers. If developers would hold their ground on pricing instead of getting nervous about sales and racing to 99 cents, it would pretty much put an end to this whole AppSniper "waiting for a sale" trend that seems to be becoming more and more prevalent lately.

[Big Albie]

This is totally correct in my opinion. They need to keep their prices constant, or reasonably constant if they want to be taken seriously as "premium" game developers. If developers would hold their ground on pricing instead of getting nervous about sales and racing to 99 cents, it would pretty much put an end to this whole AppSniper "waiting for a sale" trend that seems to be becoming more and more prevalent lately.

+ 1 I was playing with Real Racing again last night, and it is worth whatever price they decide to charge. I seriously hope they don't follow the slash and burn pricing strategy.

[FearlessFreep]

I think there's justification for price drops on both. The economics of the App Store have been demonstrated time and again - price drops bring increased sales which equals more revenue.

Look at Hero of Sparta. Or Assasin's Creed. Or Let's Golf. Or Toki Tori. All were essentially languishing and revising pricing downward opened up a whole new wave of sales. Toki Tori debuted in May at $4.99 and never even sniffed the Top 100 and languished for a while despite having a dedicated following. Once the dropped the price to $.99 and put out a Lite version, sales skyrocketed. They're currently at #15. I'l be willing to bet they're making more money at $.99 than they did at $4.99.

Which brings us to Real Racing/Star Defense. I would guess both are due a price drop any day now. Would not be surprised at all. The public will drive the economics of the store, not the other way around, so I don't think Firemint has anything to do with 'respecting' $9.99 games.

[Shinto]

Surely Ngmoco and Firemint don´t trust the top 100 like a lot of good players don´t do, then they are not worried on that. They will rely on the quality of their games and publicity they make and people spreading that.

Respect and glory forever to that 2 great companies, that´s the way to go not like gameloft making bad games with good graphics.

[FearlessFreep]

Surely Ngmoco and Firemint don´t trust the top 100 like a lot of good players don´t do, then they are not worried on that. They will rely on the quality of their games and publicity they make and people spreading that.
LOL -They're not in the business for some 'quality game' crusade. They're in it for the money, plain and simple. Their biggest selling game is $.99. Even they realize that keeping a spot in the Top 25/50 means much more money than holding out on principle for 'word-of-mouth' sales. Economics will always trump anything else, and in this case the single biggest way to make money is to get an app into the Top 25/50.

These games will most certainly have a price drop. The only question is when, not if.

[Eli]

Economics will always trump anything else, and in this case the single biggest way to make money is to get an app into the Top 25/50.

Let's say just for the sake of simplicity it takes 1000 app sales a day to make it on the top 100 and 5000 sales a day to make it on the top 10. At a buck you're making $1000-$5000. Now, say they're comfortably selling 800 units a day which is keeping them just outside of the top 100, at $10 a pop that's $8000.

Now obviously there's potential to make more money on sales volume by dropping the price and getting Real Racing up on the charts, but I can't think of any game short of maybe Peggle that saw a price drop that was ever able to see any success once the sale is over and the game returns to its normal price.

By having a $5 sale, they're cutting the value of their game in half, and showing gamers that there's no sense in buying it at $10 because they can just wait for their next sale to roll around. If sales are too low for the threshold of the top 100, but high enough that they're making a decent amount of money, it's probably worth sticking with the $10 price point since the game will spike in sales and popularity as they release each update or randomly get featured by Apple.

Either way, without sales the sales figures which haven't been published and probably never will be published, this is all just armchair speculation.

[GodSon]

This is totally correct in my opinion. They need to keep their prices constant, or reasonably constant if they want to be taken seriously as "premium" game developers. If developers would hold their ground on pricing instead of getting nervous about sales and racing to 99 cents, it would pretty much put an end to this whole AppSniper "waiting for a sale" trend that seems to be becoming more and more prevalent lately.

+1 to that! Both Star Defense and Real Racing are very solid titles and i hope they both maintain they're prices because they are more than worth it and the Devs know that!!! :cool: