Mac vs. PC

[Michelangelo]

Choose if you like, I'm just curious over which one's more popular on this site. Personally, I'm a PC :D

[jecebn]

I like Mac better, but I currently own a PC

[Ravenblack]

I'm for Mac. :)

[touchme]

Mac all the way! :D
(and don't start a flame war please!, or this thread will probably get locked)

[AaronAMV]

Worst. Thread. Ever.

I chose PC, because if you truly know how to use them and use them for a lot more advanced stuff, it's just better.

[jecebn]

Worst. Thread. Ever.

People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones ;)

[yourofl10]

Mac all the way.

[Ddyracer123]

Mac. Duh! Microcrap sucks hate the zune HD.

[Kamazar]

Way to choose an unbiased forum.

[ImNoSuperMan]

Way to choose an unbiased forum.
Ya. Should have tried it here (http://forums.macrumors.com/) instead ;)

Mac all the way. No PC in this lifetime. Probably in some afterlife I`d be using a PC as I dont think Macs will be allowed in Hell and I dont think I`ll be allowed in Heaven :p

[kohjingyu]

Mac.

[The_Running_Man]

Mac except when I want to play oblivion, then it's pc.

[Prab]

Wow. No Linux voters?

[drelbs]

Wow. No Linux voters?

Not a very well written poll, especially since Linux runs just fine on Macs or PCs. :rolleyes:

[chrisrushing]

Used PC my entire life since the 80s growing up, and i KNOW how to use a mod a computer. I went through plenty of machines.
BUT...
Switched to Mac a number of years ago and there is no comparison.
Pertaining to Windows, Microsoft is just laughable this past decade.
I will NEVER buy another PC.

[chrisrushing]

The poll should technically be:

OS X
Windows
Linux

[yourofl10]

As I was searching mac rumor's forums I cam across this post:

XP = Crackwhore: Dirt cheap and easy, but you just never know where she's been. Bring your own protection.
OS X = Courtesan: High-class, beautiful, and experienced....but expensive.
Linux = Wild girl! Not as easy as some, but she'll do all kinds of stuff you'd never even have thought of, and if you play your cards right, she'll do it for free.


Very funny.


I'll provide the post link if you need proof :p

[Aurora]

How about an option for both?
This thread is pointless anyways, there's no "better" computer. -.-';
Mac interface is better, but PC is easier to use. I use PC for work and internet surfing and (would love to) use Mac for graphic design.

[wootbean]

anyone pointed out that a Mac is a PC...?

OS X is uglier. I'm kind of indifferent though

[chrisrushing]

How about an option for both?
This thread is pointless anyways, there's no "better" computer. -.-';
Mac interface is better, but PC is easier to use. I use PC for work and internet surfing and (would love to) use Mac for graphic design.

Dude I'm blown away if you think PC is easier. Like I stated above i grew up on PCs and there is NO comparison at how much easier a Mac is than a Windows based PC. One of their main goals is streamlining usability. This is one thing I know (it's my day job). Everyone I have gotten to switch to Mac couldn't believe how much easier it was for them to do anything on it as opposed to their former PCs.

[Boardumb]

Used PC my entire life since the 80s growing up, and i KNOW how to use a mod a computer. I went through plenty of machines.
BUT...
Switched to Mac a number of years ago and there is no comparison.
Pertaining to Windows, Microsoft is just laughable this past decade.
I will NEVER buy another PC.

Dude I'm blown away if you think PC is easier. Like I stated above i grew up on PCs and there is NO comparison at how much easier a Mac is than a Windows based PC. One of their main goals is streamlining usability. This is one thing I know (it's my day job). Everyone I have gotten to switch to Mac couldn't believe how much easier it was for them to do anything on it as opposed to their former PCs.

Basically, this. I was quite adept at using Windows growing up, ever since about 1993. And before that I was busting out DOS commands on my parents computer as a little kid. I knew how to do pretty much anything I wanted with my computer. Then I got a Mac in 2000, and I will NEVER, EVAR switch back to a Windows computer. My parents always marvel at how I use a Mac, and they show interest in them, but they always end up buying Windows computers. I bought my G4 iMac in 2000, it worked without so much as a hiccup until 2005. That's when my girlfriend bought a G5 iMac. So I sold my old one and just used her computer, but my G4 still worked flawlessly. Now just a couple months ago, I got myself a MacBook Pro (cause the gf ditched me and took the G5 with her). But I have no doubt that my original G4 would still be working just fine for me to this day. Roughly 10 years of computing without any problems, crashes, viruses, etc. In contrast, my parents just bought a new Windows based computer about the time I got my MBP. It is their sixth computer in the same timeframe. Sixth! When I think about that, I have no problem paying the extra money for Macs. I don't hate on PC's or whatever, cause they really are better for doing certain things, and based on your computer knowledge can be more flexible. But as others have said, I just want to turn my computer on and get down to business. And once you spend a little time learning all the shortcuts with a Mac, it really is faster and more user friendly. I've convinced many people to switch to Macs over the years, and not one of them have ever been disappointed. I'm an official Mac nerd for life.

[wootbean]

I agree that macs are faster and easier, although I'd been using windows for a while and know that quite well too. I find I have to use a whole lot more mouse with a mac which I don't like (I've used keyboard shortcuts for almost everything.)

[jasonsmith]

The poll should technically be:

OS X
Windows
Linux

I agree with that because I don't like Apple, but OS X is great. Yes the iDevices are good too, don't anyone get their feathers ruffled.

[L3TH4LJ14]

i hate the prices of a mac but i think theyre much better and i own pc throught my whole family. i sat at best buy just to toy around with a mac and fell in love with it. pcs become obsolete WAY too quickly for me like every year theres a new set of requirements for something. ive had my pc since 2004 and ive been sick of it ever since ive used imacs, linux imo is super sucky and often times incompatible with a lot of my computer equipment.

[Kamazar]

anyone pointed out that a Mac is a PC...?

OS X is uglier. I'm kind of indifferent though

OSX is uglier? The entire thing is a graphical masterpiece. It whooshes, it swoops, it floooows together. Windows just looks and feels clunky. And I know most of you have probably already seen this, but this pretty much sums up my feelings on Windows.

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[wootbean]

OSX is uglier? The entire thing is a graphical masterpiece. It whooshes, it swoops, it floooows together. Windows just looks and feels clunky. And I know most of you have probably already seen this, but this pretty much sums up my feelings on Windows.

Well I was mainly referring to all the windows being the same boring gray. I don't like the look of buttons on pop up windows either, and I can't use tab to switch between them...but overall I think I like Mac > windows

[hawks12thman]

Even though I have an iPod Touch and I love Apple, I prefer PC. I have nothing against Mac and I'd love to have both a PC and Mac, but if I had to choose one of them, I'd go with PC. I think Mac is more for the special things, like when you're in college, or into programming, etc., it's also kinda out of my budget.

[Uptown Arts]

Meh, they're all sons of PARC, more similar than they are different.

Vista is bloated. But there's stuff that's easy on the PC that's harder on the MAC (merging folders and resizing windows, for instance). And the MAC doesn't play as well with non-Apple devices and much of the open software I like to use. But I use them both daily and manage to get around.

[AaronAMV]

I agree that macs are faster
just no.



i guarantee 75% of you guys who said OS X haven't tried Win 7.

[wootbean]

just no.



i guarantee 75% of you guys who said OS X haven't tried Win 7.

well. my mac is far faster than my windows
although
my windows laptop is several years and i've had my mac for a couple months. it has parallels with vista installed, i have an upgrade option to windows 7 but haven't tried it yet.

[AaronAMV]

^and that's probably why

the bottom line is that you're paying for the name. if you put the exact same amount of money into buying a new pc and buying a new mac, the pc will be faster.

[NomaD]

this is a stupid debate. if your looking for the cheap option get a PC. end of story. close this thread.

[AaronAMV]

^dear god how i hope you're kidding.

[tchme]

I think this poll will be a bit slanted. :)

I have a mac running OS X and Parallels Windows XP, then another Windows XP workstation next to it. I like them both. To me I see them all working together. Don't think PC or MAC, I run them both at the same time, then that way if you want to run a windows application it will run seamlessly. I don't think about it anymore. I flip flop back and forth.

[NomaD]

^dear god how i hope you're kidding.

i dont know what im saying... im tired and a bit baked, ill try to make sense of it in the morning. peace :)

[Owl]

Grah. Why must people constantly poke at the Mac/PC thing? But since it's here, I'll throw in my view.

I don't like macs just because I like being able to know my computer... To be able to feel it when I touch the keyboard. It doesn't make much sense, really, but I can't ever feel a Mac well. They always feel like... Well, like they're encased in a hard metal shell that I can't get past. My tiny little Acer Aspire One may not be very strong or fast, but I love it, because it feels like it's inviting to use... Not so sterile like a mac feels to me.

Another thing I don't like about Macs. Wifi. I just have a hard time fixing my wifi issues with a mac than with a pc.. I'm not sure what it is.

My main reason: Gaming. I bought my gaming computer (okay fine, I left out that it was built by my friend from choice parts) for 450 dollars. I can run any game that's out currently, no problem whatsoever, other than maybe a bit of a stretched loading time, or a bit of lag, but it's the most solid piece of technology I've ever owned. Also, steam is a nice touch to my supply of gaming. Buy it once, and you can re-download whenever I need to, all you stuff is saved... And I'm pretty sure it's not for Mac (correct me if I'm wrong). I never have virus problems, I always can run my games with excellent graphics, and it's always running cool and with the hum of the big fan on the side making me feel at home. I can always make my mic work, and connect my iPhone, and all of that stuff. If something does go wrong, I can usually fix it pretty quickly.

I'm not sure why I don't like Macs. Maybe I'm just biased. Maybe my friend is so convenient that it makes having a PC easier. Whatever the reason, my PC is perfect for me, and I love it back for all of the awesomeness it gives to me.

...Keep in mind that these views are my own, and I'm not trying to push them onto anyone else.

[Kamazar]

Depends on what you use it for mostly, I guess.

I know for a fact that game's run crappily on macs. Frame rates are low, graphics are average, and the computer heats up like a freakin' skillet. PC wins hands-down there.

Macs for some reason seem to work really well with graphics and multimedia software. Final Cut Pro, Photoshop, Flash, while they run well on PCs too, it seems smoother on Macs. I've tried out both, I can attest to this.

If you're gonna mod your computer and use the command line a lot, PCs the way to go. More support, larger community, and I think I get where Owl's coming from when he says OS X feels sterile and encased. It's cuz of Apple's attempt to make it really user friendly. They simplify it to the point where it's either A, B, or C, not being able to mix A with B, B with A, or Ca with without a decent amount of trouble.

If all you're gonna do is surf and send e-mails, it really doesn't matter what you get.

Just my 4.22 cents.

[Firestar]

just no.



i guarantee 75% of you guys who said OS X haven't tried Win 7.

Yeah, right. It's a fact that Mac runs Windows faster than PCs do (the EFI firmware), and I have been running Windows 7 beta, then RC, since it came out. There's just no difference. Even wen I try to run things like Spore on Windows the Mac version is much faster than Windows.

There we are. Let the flaming begin.

[Owl]

Depends on what you use it for mostly, I guess.

I know for a fact that game's run crappily on macs. Frame rates are low, graphics are average, and the computer heats up like a freakin' skillet. PC wins hands-down there.

Macs for some reason seem to work really well with graphics and multimedia software. Final Cut Pro, Photoshop, Flash, while they run well on PCs too, it seems smoother on Macs. I've tried out both, I can attest to this.

If you're gonna mod your computer and use the command line a lot, PCs the way to go. More support, larger community, and I think I get where Owl's coming from when he says OS X feels sterile and encased. It's cuz of Apple's attempt to make it really user friendly. They simplify it to the point where it's either A, B, or C, not being able to mix A with B, B with A, or Ca with without a decent amount of trouble.

If all you're gonna do is surf and send e-mails, it really doesn't matter what you get.

Just my 4.22 cents.

OH. I forgot about the music stuff. We use macs at school for music things, and they work great. Anything else though, seems kinda meh on a mac to me.

[Derek800]

I definitely like mac's better. Osx is a much cleaner looking is if you ask me,and yes I've had the beta version of windows 7 inmy pc for a while now. Windows 7 is better than vista but that isn't saying much. I just think everything is easier and works smoother on a mac. Now I do agree pcs are better for gaming but I don't care because that's what I have a ps3 for. So I say mac wins hands down, but if you like dealing with all of the viruses, spyware, and crap then have fun with your pc.

[AaronAMV]

but if you like dealing with all of the viruses, spyware, and crap then have fun with your pc.
Seriously? So many people in this thread are so ignorant it's unbelievable. If you're not stupid, you won't get viruses, simple as that. Oh, and by the way, Macs have viruses also. They may not have as many, but they're pretty damn bad.

[Derek800]

Seriously? So many people in this thread are so ignorant it's unbelievable. If you're not stupid, you won't get viruses, simple as that. Oh, and by the way, Macs have viruses also. They may not have as many, but they're pretty damn bad.

Lol stupid f@&&ing people such as yourself that take offense to a statement like that make me laugh. By the way I'm not ignorant when it comes to computers, I do have a bachelors in IT. I do understand that macs can get viruses but there are not near the amount of viruses out there for macs as there are for pcs. I have 2 macs and a pc, but I just happen to like macs better. Don't read to deep into a sarcastic statement there genius boy or you might get a headache.

[AaronAMV]

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/9158/justkeeptrollintrollint.jpg

oh, and ps. using sarcasm on the internet is like a deaf person reading lips

[Derek800]

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/9158/justkeeptrollintrollint.jpg

oh, and ps. using sarcasm on the internet is like a deaf person reading lips

That doesn't make any sense deaf people would be able to read lips because they can still see, maybee you meant blind person? I don't know, one thing I do know is your an idiot.

[AaronAMV]

No you moron, because a deaf person wouldn't be able to tell if you were using sarcasm or not.

Damn, this is too easy.

[Derek800]

Deaf people can still read body language, so that still makes no sense, you moron.

[AaronAMV]

Right, because you are never sarcastic without showing it, eh?

[Derek800]

Generally you can tell by a facial expression if someone is serious or not. So I'm sorry but your argument still makes no sense. Anyway this is way off topic now so I'm done. I was just posting my opinion that I like macs better, and left a sarcastic comment about pcs and viruses. Then you come along and call me ignorant, so I just wanted to say you sir are a genuine fool.

[AaronAMV]

Aha, all right. You can do as you please.

[AB1269]

People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones ;)

Mac over PC any day, even on a leap year! Sheez, those stone throwers sure are testy. The wedgies from sitting on those stones must be insane!

[derek420]

and if u disagree, then, no offense. but..ur horribly mistaken. :D

[AaronAMV]

/sigh

[Michelangelo]

I just want to let you know, I got a Sony Vaio laptop today :D

[nooobynick]

I love my new mac, however, I have yet to like it a lot more than I did the windows 7 RC, while this will be my computer for a couple of years, as it is much better and faster than my previous one, unless I start to find myself completely loving the OS over windows(or start learning how to develop games ;)), I might see myself saving the money from a MBP for college and just getting a really good windows laptop.

[AttackOfThePwned]

I am not going to vote here. I like both PC and Mac for what they offer and gladly use both and I know of many Mac users who also use their Mac and Boot Camp to run Windows.

I am very tired of the Mac vs. PC fan boy war.

[wootbean]

Macs maybe easier to use, but I've preferred Windows just because I've used it for so long and have gotten used to it, Macs feel different and I'm not sure I like it.

Also I still don't like its appearance, I don't really like the font and menus and gray windows and blue scroll and buttons :/

[saintsalive]

PC... Windows Vista is da bomb... The only thing apple is good for is the iDevice in my opinion.


*braces self for a crapload of comments about how I'm wrong*

[Kamazar]

PC... Windows Vista is da bomb... The only thing apple is good for is the iDevice in my opinion.


*braces self for a crapload of comments about how I'm wrong*

... I don't get it, even PC fanboys complained about Vista.

[skyye06]

... I don't get it, even PC fanboys complained about Vista.

Yeah I'm a PC guy (my camera hates the Mac), but vista was microsoft delivering you a bag of shit, lighting it on fire, and you stepping on it which ruins your new shoes.

[AaronAMV]

... I don't get it, even PC fanboys complained about Vista.
If you're an average PC user, Vista is completely awesome for you. If you do even the slightest of advanced anything, it's a complete piece of ****ing shit.


Also I still don't like its appearance, I don't really like the font and menus and gray windows and blue scroll and buttons :/
You can download Windows Shells/Blinds/something. :P

[Booch138]

I have to say I am a PC guy. I am personally not a fan at all of Mac OS. I like the iPod touch and that honestly is about it lol. Not saying it to be a d*ck or anything, I just cant stand to use it. I love Protools though, which in opinion and experience, is the best in music recording programs, and is the only reason I would buy a Mac. I would have no problem shelling out the cash for the product if even just for Protools hahahaha. But other than that, PC all the way. Though I hated Vista. I agree with AaronAMV, if you're an average user, Vista may seem cool, but if you want to do anything that requires more than 2 IE windows up, your wasting your time. lmfao

[super6ft7]

well, having a gaming pc would be awesome, but other than that, i would always choose a mac. I already have a 360, so i don't need a gaming pc, but there are a few games that would be awesome to have.

I'm feeling quite anti apple today, my ipod touch broke

[The Game Reaper]

Huh? You mean people actually enjoy using windows?

[organerito]

Huh? You mean people actually enjoy using windows?

Actually yeah!

My music teacher gets a laptop every 2 or 3 years from the university. He can get a Macbook pro or Windows based machine. He used to have a mac and he hated it. He won't accept a mac even for free. I guess there are people who don't enjoy OSX. I hate the color of it. It looks old and boring.

[sam the lion]

Switched from PC to Mac last may. I'm so happy I finally did it.

[sam the lion]

just no.



i guarantee 75% of you guys who said OS X haven't tried Win 7.

I did.

Did you try snow leopard?

[sam the lion]

If you're gonna mod your computer and use the command line a lot, PCs the way to go. More support, larger community, and I think I get where Owl's coming from when he says OS X feels sterile and encased. It's cuz of Apple's attempt to make it really user friendly. They simplify it to the point where it's either A, B, or C, not being able to mix A with B, B with A, or Ca with without a decent amount of trouble.


This is quite imprecise, because OS X is a Unix-based system, and when you open the terminal you have basically a Unix shell. The amount of support you can find online on Unix commands and re-use on your mac is endless.

Just yesterday, I used the shell to create a symbolic link in order to sync on DropBox a folder outside my DropBox folder. The same syntax I'd have used on a Linux system.

Just because most users don't know that something is possible, it doesn't mean that it's not there.

[saintsalive]

The only reason I want a mac is to get apple SDK and program for the iPhone. And yeah I agree Vista isn't the best, but when I went to get a laptop there were NO XP's - they had stopped producing them. Vista was my only choice. It was either that or an EXTREMELY expensive Mac. I got the windows and LOVE it. At school they have a bunch of new macs, newest software(I think... not sure if they still have OS X - or I think they had Leopard not Snow Leopard, if that's possible) and I absolutely HATE using them. Once in a while I say "Maybe I could get used to this..." then I try a mac, and I still hate it.

[Kamazar]

The only reason I want a mac is to get apple SDK and program for the iPhone. And yeah I agree Vista isn't the best, but when I went to get a laptop there were NO XP's - they had stopped producing them. Vista was my only choice. It was either that or an EXTREMELY expensive Mac. I got the windows and LOVE it. At school they have a bunch of new macs, newest software(I think... not sure if they still have OS X - or I think they had Leopard not Snow Leopard, if that's possible) and I absolutely HATE using them. Once in a while I say "Maybe I could get used to this..." then I try a mac, and I still hate it.

Could've just gotten a cheap XP disc, but guess that doesn't matter now.

And Snow Leopard is that big a leap over Leopard. If you don't like one, you don't like the other.

[lord-sam]

For program available and ease of use PC, everything else, power, quality Mac

[The Game Reaper]

just no.



i guarantee 75% of you guys who said OS X haven't tried Win 7.


I have and it still sucks.

[Hudson RL]

Mac for me! had them for 3 years now and haven't looked back since!

[AaronAMV]

I did.

Did you try snow leopard?
is it a huge difference from the whatever the version of osx to snow leopard like it was from vista to 7?
if so, i'll get a partition and try it.


I have and it still sucks.
lol.

[sam the lion]

is it a huge difference from the whatever the version of osx to snow leopard like it was from vista to 7?


In terms of functionality, no, but there was no need.

In terms of speed (which you were talking about if I'm not mistaken), it's a huge improvement. The finder opens instantly. Most applications start in half the time, or something like that. All the system is impressively reactive.

[AaronAMV]

Okay, I'll try go get an HDD and start a partition then.

[dogmeat]

Macs are overpriced and barely play any of the games that are out. Really only good for the asthetics and as a toy.

PC on the other hand puts all the power in the users hands, if you're a power user/administrator/etc.. you will be better off here.

[wootbean]

Another thing I don't like about Macs, unlike with Windows I can't use the Tab key to select which button I'm going to press when I hit return. The blue ring is around Cancel, which is the one I've selected but the Quit button is blue so when I press return Safari still quits.
Edit: lol sorry, forgot how big the image is

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1668/picture1bug.png

[AaronAMV]

... is that like 30 ****nig inches? goddamn

[Slapshot]

... is that like 30 ****nig inches? goddamn

I'm sorry but, THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID. I'm dying laughing, you honestly should've re-worded that.

[wootbean]

... is that like 30 ****nig inches? goddamn

Oh, my screen size? lol
nah, 24"

[AaronAMV]

Oh, my screen size? lol
nah, 24"
damn, mine is 19" but yours look way bigger than 24" lol

I'm sorry but, THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID. I'm dying laughing, you honestly should've re-worded that.
hysterical

[wootbean]

damn, mine is 19" but yours look way bigger than 24" lol


hysterical

that's what she said...?

[EssentialParadox]

Another thing I don't like about Macs, unlike with Windows I can't use the Tab key to select which button I'm going to press when I hit return. The blue ring is around Cancel, which is the one I've selected but the Quit button is blue so when I press return Safari still quits.

System Preferences -> Mouse and Keyboard Settings -> change the "tab focus" option to 'All Controls' :)

[wootbean]

System Preferences -> Mouse and Keyboard Settings -> change the "tab focus" option to 'All Controls' :)

appreciate your help, but I actually have that on 'All Controls' already :o
and it still does whatever I said it did in my earlier post