View Full Version : Touch Pets Dogs [FREE social puppy game] -- New 2.0 features!
Allen at ngmoco
11-10-2009, 04:36 PM
Anywhere to view your dog's "Traits" (outgoing, attracted to [sic], etc) AFTER you adopt a dog?
I don't believe it's possible currently. I'll add it to our list of things to take into consideration.
kmacleod
11-10-2009, 04:37 PM
I was playing eliminate a couple hours ago and my dog Brownie sent me a text he said he was bored and wanted me to play with him.. i was like wtf? so i left eliminate and went to play with him for a bit even though i played with him a few hours ago..
First time he sent me a text though.. anyone else get them? Is this new? or only after you reach 250?
I just got one of those recently. One of my dogs sent me a text that she wanted me to play with her while I already was playing with her and the other dog. It was especially confusing because she was catching a frisbee right as she sent me the text...
onewithchaos
11-10-2009, 04:37 PM
not at all, obviously this isnt as in-depth as Elim [even Elim is severely flawed..i wont go into that here] but pretty much, u only need to go on TP: D twice a day. maybe once. all i do is get my Caretaker/Trainer points, and then leave. it was better when it was a 2 bowl cap because then i could have Playdates, but oh well. Really, the only thing buying food will get u is more playdates [IMO]
thats good news for you c4ptain now you can cuddle with your lil touchpet puppy in between rounds of eliminate. :p
I don't believe it's possible currently. I'll add it to our list of things to take into consideration.
also, there's a slide projector in my dog's doghouse, and yesterday it would only show the screenie of my 4th career step, none of the past 3, and then today it wasnt showing any at all, just a white screen. any idea why?
I just got one of those recently. One of my dogs sent me a text that she wanted me to play with her while I already was playing with her and the other dog. It was especially confusing because she was catching a frisbee right as she sent me the text...
hahahahaha, ur dog is bipolar :D
thats good news for you c4ptain now you can cuddle with your lil touchpet puppy in between rounds of eliminate. :p
rofl, he can definitely manage his time better now :p
Nekcik
11-10-2009, 04:41 PM
I just got one of those recently. One of my dogs sent me a text that she wanted me to play with her while I already was playing with her and the other dog. It was especially confusing because she was catching a frisbee right as she sent me the text...
You have a pretty smart dog. catching a frisbee and texting at same time haha
your pet multitasks!
onewithchaos
11-10-2009, 04:42 PM
You have a pretty smart dog. catching a frisbee and texting at same time haha
your pet multitasks!
a true sign of advanced a.p.i (artificial puppy intelligence)
You have a pretty smart dog. catching a frisbee and texting at same time haha
your pet multitasks!
:( my dog cant multitask. he just takes a dump and jumps around in circles -_- lol :D
kmacleod
11-10-2009, 04:48 PM
You have a pretty smart dog. catching a frisbee and texting at same time haha
your pet multitasks!
I know! I still can't figure out where she is hiding the cell phone, I've searched everywhere :D
B-Money
11-10-2009, 04:53 PM
I just got one of those recently. One of my dogs sent me a text that she wanted me to play with her while I already was playing with her and the other dog. It was especially confusing because she was catching a frisbee right as she sent me the text...
When your dog is lonely, you will occasionally get a push notification telling you that your dog wants to play. We are fine tuning this aspect right now so you get these notifications at the most relevant times.
B-Money
You don't have to check it every 15 minutes...you can wait a few hours for an entire bowl to regenerate.
--MJ
wait.. my maths is out of whack..
ok..
15 minutes = 0.1 food
1 hour = 0.4 food
2.5 hours = full food bowl..
this forces us to check the TPD application every 2.5 hours to not waste any food at all.
i.e. cannot have a grace period of sleep.
1 USD = 18 bowls of food (8 bonus), which = 45 hours of food accumulated
30 USD = 750 bowls (350 bonus), which = 1875 hours of food accumulated, 78 full days
kmacleod
11-10-2009, 05:04 PM
wait.. my maths is out of whack..
ok..
15 minutes = 0.1 food
1 hour = 0.4 food
2.5 hours = full food bowl..
this forces us to check the TPD application every 2.5 hours to not waste any food at all.
i.e. cannot have a grace period of sleep.
1 USD = 18 bowls of food (8 bonus), which = 45 hours of food accumulated
30 USD = 750 bowls (350 bonus), which = 1875 hours of food accumulated, 78 full days
Yeah, the idea is definitely to try to sell people the additional food packs.
While I think that there are much better ways Ngmoco could be monetizing this app (you should be able to buy extra maximum food bowls, not just extra one-shot bowls), they do need to earn money somehow. Giving you a complete game for free with no incentive to purchase anything wouldn't make much business sense...
Nekcik
11-10-2009, 05:08 PM
I would really love it if they added one of my ideas for a DLC food bowl that lets you share with 2 dogs on playdates and uses only 1 charge of food, maybe charge 1.99 for that bowl.. I mean its already in game just does not work this way.
Yeah, the idea is definitely to try to sell people the additional food packs.
While I think that there are much better ways Ngmoco could be monetizing this app (you should be able to buy extra maximum food bowls, not just extra one-shot bowls), they do need to earn money somehow. Giving you a complete game for free with no incentive to purchase anything wouldn't make much business sense...
I would actually pay money for that.. to have additional food bowls .. perhaps..
say 1 USD for a maximum total of 2 food bowls (5 hours to reach)
an extra 3 USD for 3 a maximum total of food bowls (7.5 hours to reach)
an extra 5 USD for 4 a maximum total of food bowls (10 hours to reach)
and an extra 10 USD for 5 a maximum total of food bowls and limit it there so people would be forced to check it at least twice a day. (12.5 hours to reach)
ROFL i love how subtle the make it.. psychological mind games..
- the dog whimpers
- looks sickly tired
- grabs the food bowl in it's mouth
- whimpers again
- walks to the middle of the screen
- turns its back to you
- falls asleep with it's head over the bowl..
GOSH.. talk about making us feel like bad dog owners...
TIMELESS
11-10-2009, 05:51 PM
Yeah, the idea is definitely to try to sell people the additional food packs.
While I think that there are much better ways Ngmoco could be monetizing this app (you should be able to buy extra maximum food bowls, not just extra one-shot bowls), they do need to earn money somehow. Giving you a complete game for free with no incentive to purchase anything wouldn't make much business sense...
Some of us would pay for the game and buy more better designed clothing for the dogs and games and a doghouse. I would even buy another puppy it tooks forever too get the puppy bucks. Just do not think they should charge for food for the dog.
kmacleod
11-10-2009, 06:02 PM
Some of us would pay for the game and buy more better designed clothing for the dogs and games and a doghouse. I would even buy another puppy it tooks forever too get the puppy bucks. Just do not think they should charge for food for the dog.
Yes, I definitely see where you're coming from. It gets sort of laughably depressing when you play with the dog for a couple of minutes, then it sort of slumps over and starts dreaming about food...
wandlink
11-10-2009, 06:19 PM
it's good game
Yes, I definitely see where you're coming from. It gets sort of laughably depressing when you play with the dog for a couple of minutes, then it sort of slumps over and starts dreaming about food...
staring at you with those puppy dog eyes..
or in my case.. KICK ASS CYBORG CYCLOPS EYES!!!
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2667/4094276090_e6d2a966ee_o.jpg
digitally enhanced image of course
BABYiCE
11-10-2009, 06:24 PM
just pondering whether to buy some stuff or not..
never a pet person, but virtual pets are a totally different thing;)
loves2spoon
11-10-2009, 06:26 PM
i love how my dog gives me that dirty look when you start petting another dog! lol
ImNoSuperMan
11-10-2009, 06:30 PM
As much as I` loving Eliminate, I have to admit this game turned out extremely disappointing. I dont play it but my 3.5 yr old loves this type of games. Too bad he could only pamper & play with the puppy for just bout 5 minutes and then it went to sleep. Now how do I explain to him why the puppy wont play anymore. I told him it`s tired and needs to sleep and my son`s been bugging me ever since asking if he`s awake now.
I`d easily pay 10 bucks just to make sure the puppy`s awake for atleast 30 minutes every few hours just for my kid. But these pay for food bowls prices are ridiculous. I`m thinking of deleting this game now and will be downloading these three iPuppy games instead which are not just free [for a limited time] but offers unlimited playtime.
iPuppy Husky (http://appshopper.com/link/ipuppy-husky) , [Appshopper Link (http://appshopper.com/games/ipuppy-husky)]
iPuppy Schnauzer (http://appshopper.com/link/ipuppy-schnauzer) , [Appshopper Link (http://appshopper.com/games/ipuppy-schnauzer)]
iPuppy Chihuahua (http://appshopper.com/link/ipuppy-2) , [Appshopper Link (http://appshopper.com/games/ipuppy-2)]
Probably not as polished as Touchpets. Still it`ll keep my kid busy for a long long time :rolleyes:
wastedyuthe
11-10-2009, 06:35 PM
Well I am not happy with it. I loved it at first, when me and my daughter both had a dog each on our respective devices, and we had the starter food. But when that starter food diminished, I couldn't believe how little time we had to play with the dog and build up their bars. My daughter waited for her pets food to replenish for half an hour, and barely had enough time to earn enough money to start a career, then he fell asleep again. She is 6 years old, loves Nintendogs, and wanted something similar. We have tried the others which pale in comparison, and was hoping for good things with this game. She cannot cope with having to wait a couple of hours every time she wants to play with the dog for longer than 10 minutes. And spending this amount of money on food for her would make me penny-less in no time.
Like others, I am very happy to pay for my apps, even subscription would have been ok within reason. I love the idea of spending money on premium items in the game instead of food. But this is going too far. Especially when the target customer age can be as young as my daughter. It's a shame, as the game is so well put together otherwise, and I love the dog animations etc as well as control (and my 6 year old daughter picked it up so easily).
A real let down.
A real let down.
Agreed. Maybe they could add a mode where, you don't earn Puppy-Bucks or Owner Points, in exchange for unlimited energy so you can just play around with your dog. Sounds lame to me [lol its my own idea] but it'd be a start. They would need to add new activities though, throwing a stick only goes so far entertainment-wise.
oliath
11-10-2009, 06:40 PM
Agreed that the pricing and recharge is rediculous and will ultimately be the downfall of this game.
I would have much preferred to buy a full version with more
playable recharge times and then have the option for paid dlc later.
Since the game is ultimately aimed at kids who won't have access to the funds I can't see it lasting for very long at all.
Sadly this is the result of nothing more than greed on ngmocos part and clearly the EA in them is showing. I feel that they have done nothing more than destroy any long term success that this title could have had and I feel sorry for the dev if they were bullied into this decision by the publishers.
The positive side of this is that it has left cash on the table for any other similar apps that will appear and offer more playtime.
onewithchaos
11-10-2009, 06:43 PM
I think that they did really well with Eliminate and horrible with TouchPets. Eliminate works perfect as it is and this game would've been a lot better with a subscription. I hope they change this because otherwise i dont see it lasting very long.
Agreed. Maybe they could add a mode where, you don't earn Puppy-Bucks or Owner Points, in exchange for unlimited energy so you can just play around with your dog. Sounds lame to me [lol its my own idea] but it'd be a start. They would need to add new activities though, throwing a stick only goes so far entertainment-wise.
i think this game would do ok for 5-10 USD..
be offline.. and no internet interactions.. just restrict it to bluetooth or wifi if people want to play together..
and no restrictions in terms of food.. the puppy bucks is hard enough to achieve without the limitation of food.
and just a simple online leaderboard for most puppy bucks, highest level, how many crimes solved (eg, for each profession), something basic and simple enough for kids to understand.
kmacleod
11-10-2009, 06:44 PM
While I don't think the pricing is going to lead to this game failing, I think it will prevent this from being the massive, unbelievable, incredible success it could have been. I honestly believe that with the correct pricing model, this game could have been the number one downloaded and grossing app of all time, by a lot. Instead, I think it'll be a moderate success. I find that unfortunate.
CandyNJ66
11-10-2009, 06:46 PM
Yes, I definitely see where you're coming from. It gets sort of laughably depressing when you play with the dog for a couple of minutes, then it sort of slumps over and starts dreaming about food...
lol I agree. I have to watch my finances and I won't be putting in all my cash into puppy food. There are other apps/games I want to buy as well. Pay to play is fine if you have tons of money to burn but for those of us who don't, I will hopefully be waiting for an unlimited version
can u just imagine how much money they could have potentially made pricing it at even just 7.99 or 9.99? jeez..imho ng is just being greedy about all this. no offense to anyone.
WOW!! just noticed that you can grab the dog and move it around..
this is just one step away from "3D POCKET GOD"
surely a definite money maker there :O
we can call it <insert celebrities name who has a history of being arrested for sadistic acts to animals>'s playroom
TIMELESS
11-10-2009, 07:17 PM
can u just imagine how much money they could have potentially made pricing it at even just 7.99 or 9.99? jeez..imho ng is just being greedy about all this. no offense to anyone.
None taken it is greed. I do not have the money to keep giving them either, My husband has been laid off for 4 months now. He is good about the itunes cards but not this.
Ddyracer123
11-10-2009, 07:25 PM
Actually if you look at it this way:
1 full bowl recharges in about an hour and a half to to a bit over two hours. that's about half time (or less) than eliminate's full recharge. and they have the same time of play for full energy. i'm pretty sure of this (correct if wrong). I am NOT trying to defend ngmoco here, just want to get some facts. i may be a little inaccurate but it's a rough estimate;)
Ddyracer123
11-10-2009, 07:27 PM
can u just imagine how much money they could have potentially made pricing it at even just 7.99 or 9.99? jeez..imho ng is just being greedy about all this. no offense to anyone.
I agree. i just hope that nova will kick elim in the trash and other devs will get better results than elim.
can u just imagine how much money they could have potentially made pricing it at even just 7.99 or 9.99? jeez..imho ng is just being greedy about all this. no offense to anyone.
These games are about sustainability in the long term, not the flash in the pan week of good sales then falling in to obscurity as the next hot game bumps them off the list. Epic Pet Wars, iMafia, etc all have had constant positive cash flow by selling each game's respective points for months and months now.
ngmoco is a company with an extremely competent management staff of video game industry veterans who have such great reputations for making amazing games (and tons of money) that investors have trusted them with millions of dollars of their children's inheritance. It seems like this is all too quickly forgotten when the expert App Store economics of TouchArcade weigh in on game pricing. ;)
ngmoco knows what they're doing.
Ddyracer123
11-10-2009, 07:38 PM
These games are about sustainability in the long term, not the flash in the pan week of good sales then falling in to obscurity as the next hot game bumps them off the list. Epic Pet Wars, iMafia, etc all have had constant positive cash flow by selling each game's respective points for months and months now.
ngmoco is a company with an extremely competent management staff of video game industry veterans who have such great reputations for making amazing games (and tons of money) that investors have trusted them with millions of dollars of their children's inheritance. It seems like this is all too quickly forgotten when the expert App Store economics of TouchArcade weigh in on game pricing. ;)
ngmoco knows what they're doing.
I hope your right, because alot of us on TA don't think so nor does itunes reviewers based on their reviews
I hope your right, because alot of us on TA don't think so nor does itunes reviewers based on their reviews
iTunes reviews are a bottom heavy system that encourages negative reviews. If I'm playing a game and enjoy it, I have almost no reason to go to iTunes and rate it ever. Or really do anything more than just continue enjoying the game. If I dislike a game, and delete it, I'm given the opportunity to rate it.
Now what rating do you think I'd give something that I deleted because I hated it?
DaveMc99
11-10-2009, 07:45 PM
I hope your right, because alot of us on TA don't think so nor does itunes reviewers based on their reviews
This is not guesswork. Eliminate is the #9 Top Grossing game and other MMOs are in the Top 100. People will pay to play.
http://appshopper.com/bestsellers/games/grossing/?sort=price&dir=asc
Ddyracer123
11-10-2009, 08:21 PM
This is not guesswork. Eliminate is the #9 Top Grossing game and other MMOs are in the Top 100. People will pay to play.
http://appshopper.com/bestsellers/games/grossing/?sort=price&dir=asc
That doesn't mean anything. Sure its the top grossing and all that, but you can't assume people will pay just because it's popular. And i am guessing a little i admit. But you are to. That is not legitimate what you just said.
Show the statistics how many people bought micro transactions and how many did not and maybe i'll believe you.
touchChallenge
11-10-2009, 08:39 PM
I'm not paying to play to let you guys know, that's so immature, you're forcing us to buy your stuff to play a game...Not right at all!
loves2spoon
11-10-2009, 08:40 PM
someone go have a playdate with my dog! he's a police man :D
he's a little hungry :(
touchChallenge
11-10-2009, 08:52 PM
I'm not paying to play to let you guys know, that's so immature, you're forcing us to buy your stuff to play a game...Not right at all!
Sorry for the freak out, I just noticed that you get +0.1 every hour or so.
Sorry for the freak out, I just noticed that you get +0.1 every hour or so.
It is a dumb system of purchase. The premium clothes and toys should be in-app purchaseable, and the food purchaseable with in game money. At least make the maximum food infinate.
Im going to try iPuppy now. It's free so everyone should try it!
Husky: http://itunes.apple.com/ca/app/ipuppy-husky/id303224225?mt=8
Chihuahua: http://itunes.apple.com/ca/app/ipuppy-chihuahua/id299162557?mt=8
Schnauzer:http://itunes.apple.com/ca/app/ipuppy-schnauzer/id303315673?mt=8
That doesn't mean anything. Sure its the top grossing and all that, but you can't assume people will pay just because it's popular. And i am guessing a little i admit. But you are to. That is not legitimate what you just said.
Show the statistics how many people bought micro transactions and how many did not and maybe i'll believe you.
The thing is, these kind of games need massive player bases to be fun. Even the people who never pay a cent are contributing to the success of the game by creating a massive community of players that will push people who are willing to buy things like Eliminate energy or TouchPets food even closer to pushing the "Buy Now" button. Neither game will ever have the issue of other online games where you load them up and are like "Well this is kind of cool but there's no one playing." (For instance, IUGO's Star Hogs, Luc Bernard's Mecho Wars, etc.)
Eliminate has stayed on the top half of the top grossing list since its release, and peaked at the #2 top grossing app. Eliminate is currently making more money than 108,358 other titles on the App Store. Like it or not, that means something. ;)
monk666
11-10-2009, 09:43 PM
The thing is, these kind of games need massive player bases to be fun. Even the people who never pay a cent are contributing to the success of the game by creating a massive community of players that will push people who are willing to buy things like Eliminate energy or TouchPets food even closer to pushing the "Buy Now" button. Neither game will ever have the issue of other online games where you load them up and are like "Well this is kind of cool but there's no one playing." (For instance, IUGO's Star Hogs, Luc Bernard's Mecho Wars, etc.)
Eliminate has stayed on the top half of the top grossing list since its release, and peaked at the #2 top grossing app. Eliminate is currently making more money than 108,358 other titles on the App Store. Like it or not, that means something. ;)
Well, it obviously isn't a fair playing ground at all. I read on a developer blog that ngmoco is funded by some dude on the iFund which is pretty much linked to Apple. Little wonder why their games almost always get featured and get featured on the first week or release. Their games also stayed on the new/hot list like forever. I lost count how long rolando stayed on the new list for. 2 months? Sure, they are making money, but you can attribute all that to Apple helping them out. All the other developers will surely love Apple for that.
eggzbacon
11-10-2009, 09:48 PM
Have you heard the news?
About Fred and Georgia?
J-Bone
11-10-2009, 10:05 PM
Anybody having trouble with the dog feed my last updates from friends is 12 hours ago I know that can't be right.
mjmoco
11-10-2009, 11:38 PM
Anybody having trouble with the dog feed my last updates from friends is 12 hours ago I know that can't be right.
Are there more reports of this?
--MJ
Negamaki
11-10-2009, 11:45 PM
Are there more reports of this?
--MJ
Yes, I'm having the same issues. I know for a fact I have more recent dog updates but it says the last ones are days old- which is not true.
MuFFz
11-10-2009, 11:46 PM
Is there anyway to get rid of a dog I bought? Atleast sell it to another person? That would be a great idea, like a trading marketplace. Anyways Is there? I bought a dog but turned out I didn't want it at all.
Is there anyway to get rid of a dog I bought? Atleast sell it to another person? That would be a great idea, like a trading marketplace. Anyways Is there? I bought a dog but turned out I didn't want it at all.
:( what a horrible thing to say about an adorable [virtual] puppy. Shame on you! Shame shame!
:p
MuFFz
11-10-2009, 11:50 PM
:( what a horrible thing to say about an adorable [virtual] puppy. Shame on you! Shame shame!
:p
haha what! I would rather sell it to other people than neglect it. =]
haha what! I would rather sell it to other people than neglect it. =]
Sounds like you shoulda done some thinking beforehand. Bad person, bad! Lol jk, idk if they'll ever add that feature. Maybe, might be useful to be able to sell a pup back for 50% [4k PB]
MuFFz
11-10-2009, 11:53 PM
That would be alot better. I would love to get rid of my dogs and get a robot dog. =D!
wastedyuthe
11-11-2009, 01:46 AM
Well I continue to dislike how they have treated this game- for me and my 6 yr old daughter. I left it for a good few hours before I played last night, and loaded it to test how long it would last for a typical play, doing what my daughter would do. I found I had a full bowl of food. So, I checked the stats and sure enough, my dog needed a clean in order to get to platinum level and start earning cash. So, sure enough, the moment I started cleaning him his energy bar level plummeted dramatically from over halfway to almost nothing. What the????
So, I had to give him food, to boost him back up, leaving only .1 left in the bowl. I then bought my daughters dog in, as I knew that's what she would do in a typical play. Her dog was famished, so I gave it the remaining food, which took all of a second for it to eat. SECONDS later, it was asleep- the food had worn off. So I was left with my own dog who had barely any left himself. Just enough time to do a quick job with his rescue career, done, then asleep! That was it- a full bowl's worth of entertainment was used up within 10 minutes.
As others have said, cleaning is a joke. It really makes you wonder if it's worth cleaning the dog if it's going to diminish your playtime by so much. But of course you have to do it to get his bar to reach platinum.
Then there's sharing your food with other dogs- again, if your maximum is 1 bowl shared for your dog and any others that visit, your dogs barely have enough time to say hello to each other, let alone play!! So what's the point???
And I am looking at this from a 6 year old's perspective too. She likes iHusky etc- they are good enough for what they have set out to do. But she has tired of it now, and this was supposed to have been the game to beat the lot.
Like I said, I am not cheap and would gladly play. To put this games charges into perspective, I am on the Mac and Windows MMO "Onverse". It is a free download, and is completely FREE to play AS LONG AS YOU WANT. There is in-game currency you can find and collect as you explore and meet other users (yes, this uses their servers just like this game) that you can spend on clothes and furniture for your home. You have the option to purchase another form of currency (via paypal etc) which can be used to buy premium products in the game, and that is the only limitation! There is certainly no limit on play-time, and I have spent a good $30 on it.
Out of protest, I am not paying a cent to these people for their ridiculously priced dog food (before anyone says, it's not the quantity that's at fault- it's how little time it lasts especially when you have other dogs round).
I can see my daughter getting very bored of this, very quickly.
Come back iPuppy Husky, all is forgiven.
MuFFz
11-11-2009, 02:05 AM
Yeah. I really hate hate HATE how it takes so much energy just cleaning.., I mean ur dog is just standing there, not like it's doing anything. and drinking water takes energy also, it should be gaining energy not depleting.
DeezNutz
11-11-2009, 02:07 AM
I just downloaded Touch Pets Dogs, and I noticed that I am missing most of the in-game user interface options (the one's at the top of the screen) so I can't do much with with my dog :(
I don't know if this matters, but I downloaded the game from the Canadian iTunes Store.
I am still using OS 3.0 because i hate the fact that on the iPod Touch, OS 3.1.x limits the functionality of the iPod Pop-Up Controls (it can only be accessed when playing music, but in 3.0 and earlier on the iPod Touch it is always accessible).
If ngmoco is reading this, please look into this issue, because I do not want to have to upgrade my firmware until Apple addresses the iPod Pop-Up Controls issue.
herbie_guy
11-11-2009, 02:12 AM
I just downloaded Touch Pets Dogs, and I noticed that I am missing most of the in-game user interface options (the one's at the top of the screen) so I can't do much with with my dog :(
I don't know if this matters, but I downloaded the game from the Canadian iTunes Store.
I am still using OS 3.0 because i hate the fact that on the iPod Touch, OS 3.1.x limits the functionality of the iPod Pop-Up Controls (it can only be accessed when playing music, but in 3.0 and earlier on the iPod Touch it is always accessible).
If ngmoco is reading this, please look into this issue, because I do not want to have to upgrade my firmware until Apple addresses the iPod Pop-Up Controls issue.
lol have you gone through the tutorial and everything?
I just downloaded Touch Pets Dogs, and I noticed that I am missing most of the in-game user interface options (the one's at the top of the screen) so I can't do much with with my dog :(
I could be wrong but it looks to me like you're in the tutorial part of the game (my guess because there's a question mark icon on the side). Just run through the tutorial and everything should be there.
B-Money
11-11-2009, 02:16 AM
I just downloaded Touch Pets Dogs, and I noticed that I am missing most of the in-game user interface options (the one's at the top of the screen) so I can't do much with with my dog :(
I don't know if this matters, but I downloaded the game from the Canadian iTunes Store.
I am still using OS 3.0 because i hate the fact that on the iPod Touch, OS 3.1.x limits the functionality of the iPod Pop-Up Controls (it can only be accessed when playing music, but in 3.0 and earlier on the iPod Touch it is always accessible).
If ngmoco is reading this, please look into this issue, because I do not want to have to upgrade my firmware until Apple addresses the iPod Pop-Up Controls issue.
You are still in the tutorial portion of the game (the beginning). Just follow the steps from the question mark that flashes on the lower right side of your screen. As you progress through, the rest of the UI will start to appear on the screen. Hope this helps.
B-money
DeezNutz
11-11-2009, 02:23 AM
Thanks for info guys!!!! :)
I watched a couple of vids on youtube, and saw screenshots of the game, and I guess I was a bit too eager to jump into the game :D
Thanks again!
wastedyuthe
11-11-2009, 03:01 AM
This is even worse than I thought with my above post- just timed it to the minute this morning. started at 8:47. fed my dog (full bowl available), took him out the back to do his business, cleaned him (which is what he wanted, plus it was needed to get his bar into platinum) which severely drained his energy, immediately brought in my daughters dog who was asleep, couldn't feed it as my food was greyed out (ran out), ran my dog around with the agility ball for a few seconds, then he was asleep too. Had 7 minutes to wait before I get a whole other .1 of food added, so I turned it off at 8:53.
A whole 6 MINUTES of play with a full bowl of food. This is simply not acceptable for waiting all night to play the bloody thing. The dogs didn't even get to say hello to each other this time for heavens sake!
1 star review from me- diabolical.
JonathanJ
11-11-2009, 04:39 AM
This game is virtually unplayable. Giving the dog a bath lowers the energy a ridiculous amount. I understand they need to make money, but everything about their decisions simply baffles me. Who would pay for bowls of food when a bowl lasts around 5 minutes? It's a complete waste of money.
Eliminate is at least playable if you don't pay. In this game the dog just goes to sleep and you can't do ANYTHING. This game is a joke. It's very sad to see such a good game developer become so clueless and greedy.
wastedyuthe
11-11-2009, 05:31 AM
Agreed Jonathan. The only reason I will keep the subscription to this thread open, is to see if they change it again to help (it at least needs to return to 2 full bowls max, instead of just 1).
But I may remove it in the meantime, as I don't want the Push notification telling me my dog is lonely when I can't even spend more than a couple of minutes with the poor sod. I can see it not lasting much longer on my daughters Touch either.
I have put iPuppy back on now- it doesn't play as well, but the difference is it LET'S me play it.
amusing Grace
11-11-2009, 05:56 AM
Well guys, i downloaded the game as soon as it was released in Canada. Never spend any money on it and my stats are constantly rising.
And i think rising your stats is what it boils down to, as it is a videogame you want to get some kind of (high)score.
So this is what i do (almost) every day:
Checking my puppy on the train ride to work, feeding her first, then cleaning her and let her out in the garden to take a sh*t and give her water. So the first "goals" are done. If i have some time left i quickly run through her tricks and bam! another goal fulfilled, leveled up. Then there is no energy left and i quit the app.
Two hours later, during my first break, i check in again give her food and play with her and bam! next group of goals fulfilled and leveling up once again.
If i check later for a third time i can invite another dog over and give that dog some food, take that dog away from the bowl and let my puppie eat. Both have energy i dress them and play a bit with both and bam! the play-date goal is fullfilled.
Itīs that easy! Of course i understand that some people want to spend more time with the dogs in one go, but iīm not like that (in the moment :D).
But, what iīm trying to say is, you can level up and progress quite well in this game if you manage to focus on certain goals one at a time. If you, on the other hand, try to do everything in one sitting, it wonīt lead you anywhere, because your build stats are going down, if you donīt nail the goals in a certain time frame.
And yes, i would love to have a second bowl at hand to play more or have it somehow easier, but we have to deal with whatīs at hand in the moment and donīt forget that this game is FREE and i always have a good time with it already in itīs current state. If we donīt have a good time, we wouldnīt complain that we want more.
One last thing: I can feel that it is very hard for parents to explain this to a child. But what can i say except, thatīs life and you canīt always get what you want (WITHOUT being sarcastic!)
Just my two cents
wastedyuthe
11-11-2009, 06:09 AM
I know where you are coming from amusing Grace, but try telling a 6 year old that they should only concentrate on certain aspects each time:
"No, you can't play with my dog yet, because you have to clean, feed, and let your dog out the back this time. You can meet my dog in a couple of hours time instead".
Let's face it, this type of game should be for young kids as well as pet-loving adults. And it just doesn't work.
amusing Grace
11-11-2009, 06:14 AM
I know where you are coming from amusing Grace, but try telling a 6 year old that they should only concentrate on certain aspects each time:
"No, you can't play with my dog yet, because you have to clean, feed, and let your dog out the back this time. You can meet my dog in a couple of hours time instead".
Let's face it, this type of game should be for young kids as well as pet-loving adults. And it just doesn't work.
Like i said, i perfectly understand that.
In the moment it is a lovely time waster for adults trapped in the body of a kids game;)
So, as sad as it sounds, i think some other puppy-sim is more suited for kids.
Boardumb
11-11-2009, 06:23 AM
I agree with you amusing grace, I've pretty much had a similar experience. Had the game since the beta, and have been content playing when I can and leveling up my puppy. But I also see the other side, the people that just want to PLAY with their puppy toy. And I understand that. I get joy from trying to level up and reach each new tier of ownership, and haven't really had a problem patiently doing that. The novelty of just playing around with my dog sorta wore off the first day I had this game, so now it's more of an rpg-ish grind. But some people (especially children) probably wouldn't understand this aspect, and just want to play with those damn cute puppies. I agree it's sort of a slap in the face that your puppy just plops down asleep mid activity when it runs out of food. If I was 5 I wouldn't understand what I did to make the puppy start ignoring me. I've thought before that they should just add some sort of "offline" type mode, where you can do all the normal activities you can do with your dog you just don't earn any level up credits or advance your career. Then at least if you don't have any food you're not left with a useless puppy. You can then either wait for your next recharge or buy more food if you're interested in advancing sooner. Then, much like Eliminate, you can at least play the game waiting for your recharge. I've seen this idea brought up, but have never seen ngmoco acknowledge anything about it. In the end, this game just is the way it is and it seems your only options are you can take it or leave it. I don't want to talk trash about their business model, as so many others have already done that, but I will say that I don't think this game should be completely unplayable when you're out of energy. It just seems cruel.
oliath
11-11-2009, 06:32 AM
My main problem is that you simply can't get an enjoyable amount of playtime off the one bowl.
Invite another puppy over and that puppy will need feeding too so good luck getting any fun out if that.
It's frustrating because clearly lots of polish webt into the game but it's just been rendered litterally unplayable by blind greed.
There are so many better ways to make money out if this app than the current one. Most people are getting annoyed with it already which won't do anything for the shelf life.
Diablohead
11-11-2009, 06:38 AM
If there is one thing I hope ngmoco learn from this and eliminate, I hope it's that a lot of us like to buy things which last longer then a minute. I personally would prefer to earn skills, points and money slower then to see my paid for food go within a few strokes and a bath.
Eliminate is just as annoying, you wait 12 hours for 3 matches, I would prefer to have a paid match per hour or something but only get 1/3 the reward, so I can play the game more without feeling like I am just wasting my time.
aleksa-94
11-11-2009, 06:42 AM
Well guys, i downloaded the game as soon as it was released in Canada. Never spend any money on it and my stats are constantly rising.
And i think rising your stats is what it boils down to, as it is a videogame you want to get some kind of (high)score.
So this is what i do (almost) every day:
Checking my puppy on the train ride to work, feeding her first, then cleaning her and let her out in the garden to take a sh*t and give her water. So the first "goals" are done. If i have some time left i quickly run through her tricks and bam! another goal fulfilled, leveled up. Then there is no energy left and i quit the app.
Two hours later, during my first break, i check in again give her food and play with her and bam! next group of goals fulfilled and leveling up once again.
If i check later for a third time i can invite another dog over and give that dog some food, take that dog away from the bowl and let my puppie eat. Both have energy i dress them and play a bit with both and bam! the play-date goal is fullfilled.
Itīs that easy! Of course i understand that some people want to spend more time with the dogs in one go, but iīm not like that (in the moment :D).
But, what iīm trying to say is, you can level up and progress quite well in this game if you manage to focus on certain goals one at a time. If you, on the other hand, try to do everything in one sitting, it wonīt lead you anywhere, because your build stats are going down, if you donīt nail the goals in a certain time frame.
And yes, i would love to have a second bowl at hand to play more or have it somehow easier, but we have to deal with whatīs at hand in the moment and donīt forget that this game is FREE and i always have a good time with it already in itīs current state. If we donīt have a good time, we wouldnīt complain that we want more.
One last thing: I can feel that it is very hard for parents to explain this to a child. But what can i say except, thatīs life and you canīt always get what you want (WITHOUT being sarcastic!)
Just my two cents
+1 on that.we all are always forgetting that the game is free:)
wastedyuthe
11-11-2009, 07:13 AM
+1 on that.we all are always forgetting that the game is free:)
That has nothing to do with it, if you read my previous posts in the last couple of pages. It's fine if they want to charge for certain aspects of a game, but such a price for food that lasts merely a few minutes a bowl simply isn't worth it, and my daughter will make me bankrupt in no time. I would have had no problem paying Ģ6 for the game ($10) or even higher, and pay for premium products within the game.
Completely agree amusing Grace. Not suiting for young kids at all. I have bought iPuppy World (http://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/ipuppy-world/id332021365?mt=8) for my daughter instead (59p) where you can have all the playtime you want with a choice of several types of dog, take them for walks, play with them, dress them, and even meet other pups via Facebook (apparently, but haven't tried yet)- all for the one single app cost. I advise anyone with a young kid to do the same.
As for me, I still don't like this from an adults perspective. I really want to get absorbed into my games, and I don't see how you could ever do that when you have a few minutes play. You never have time to ENJOY your pet- you are rushing about too much trying to cram as much as you can into those few minutes you have before he falls alsleep for another 2 hours, just so you can do the daily tasks etc and level up. Not fun imo.
Each to their own opinion- that's just mine.
aleksa-94
11-11-2009, 07:24 AM
You never have time to ENJOY your pet- you are rushing about too much trying to cram as much as you can into those few minutes you have before he falls alsleep for another 2 hours, just so you can do the daily tasks etc and level up. Not fun imo.
i meant if youre not buying food.but yeah i completely agree with you on that.i also am always rushing for goals and the only time i really enjoyed the game was when i downloaded it cuz then i had i think 4 bowls:(
wastedyuthe
11-11-2009, 07:28 AM
i meant if youre not buying food.but yeah i completely agree with you on that.i also am always rushing for goals and the only time i really enjoyed the game was when i downloaded it cuz then i had i think 4 bowls:(
Yes, me too. I LOVED it when I first had it, as did my daughter. Then reality hits when you run out of your 4 bowls, and it completely takes all the fun out of the game. I really think the developers should set up on their own and make another one where we pay for the app, pay for premium items, and are able to play offline to help with their server costs.
Mr. Charley
11-11-2009, 07:51 AM
wastedyuthe, I have to agree whole-heartedly with all your points.
Plain and simple, the way the game is made right now, it's techinically "free" but to honestly have any good play time with the game, you will need to invest, and invest heavily.
For everyone saying not to complain, it's free, is the cheapest (no pun intended) argument you can make.
You are right, in the sense that the game is technically free, but to have any enjoyment beyond the 5 minutes of alloted time, you're going to have to pay up.
It's like saying the movie theatre is having free movies tonight...but when you get there, you only get sound for 5 minutes...after that you better be prepared to ante up another $.99 for every 5 minutes of the movie. Nope, sorry, you can't complain that there's no sound after 5 minutes, it's free after all!
In the end, instead of paying the $10 for the movie, you'll have spent $29.99....but what do you have to complain about? It's free after all...
wastedyuthe
11-11-2009, 07:57 AM
Thanks Mr Charley. Good analogy, hehe.
Earthdweller
11-11-2009, 08:38 AM
Not even going to bother. Seems like a cynical pricing model to me as with Eliminate. Give you your first fix free then hope you're hooked...hmmm.
Yeah very clever, how to screw the max out of the punters.
Quite prepared to pay up front as I did with Doom, Asphalt5 and Red Alert recently but once again Red Alert bit of a light version really for 5.99uk with additional DLC charges right out of the box.
oliath
11-11-2009, 09:02 AM
+1 on that.we all are always forgetting that the game is free:)
I think you are missing the point here.
People would prefer a paid version that was playable as a game over a free
version that smacks you in the face with microtransactions
Oliver
11-11-2009, 09:31 AM
I think you are missing the point here.
People would prefer a paid version that was playable as a game over a free
version that smacks you in the face with microtransactions
If you prefer a paid version, just buy the 9,99$ food version which should last 1,5 months
longer most of us play iPhone games...
wastedyuthe
11-11-2009, 10:30 AM
I have removed this app from my iPhone, and my daughter has removed it from hers after she got upset again after only a couple of minutes play. We both now have iPuppy World instead, which technically isn't as good, but much more absorbing due no restrictions on time.
And Oliver, there is no way that amount would last a whole 1.5 months with my daughter. Then she will be after more, then more, then more.
The game is really cute and well polished. I've a nice robot dog and it's fun to play with him (I really didn't like sim games with pets before Touch Pets Dogs).
I'll never pay for food, I don't like throwing my money by the window. I would be happy to purchase some DLC like toys & clothes or to buy a game which works more than 10 minutes. For the moment, I don't like how Ngmoco wants to win money... :(
TIMELESS
11-11-2009, 11:20 AM
I think you are missing the point here.
People would prefer a paid version that was playable as a game over a free
version that smacks you in the face with microtransactions
I agree with you I paid 29.99 for the food one time only and that was just stupid on my part. I can buy a game for my game system for that and only pay once. It is not a fair pricing. It is a great game but not like this.
Perhaps a stupid question, but if you have 2 dogs, and you select one of yours to have a playdate with a friends dog; how do I play with the one who wasn't selected for the playdate? Can't seem to find a way to bring her back!
Perhaps a stupid question, but if you have 2 dogs, and you select one of yours to have a playdate with a friends dog; how do I play with the one who wasn't selected for the playdate?
Try the crown (in the world icon) and select "my dogs". I've only one dog but there you can choose more than one.
B-Money
11-11-2009, 12:21 PM
Perhaps a stupid question, but if you have 2 dogs, and you select one of yours to have a playdate with a friends dog; how do I play with the one who wasn't selected for the playdate? Can't seem to find a way to bring her back!
You can only have two dogs out at a time. So, if you are on a playdate you can only have one of your dogs plus your friend's dog. Once you send your friend's dog home, you can bring your second dog out through the "My Dogs" tab as Zaz stated. See the attached image of my "My Dogs" tab. Hope this helps!
B-Money
Well I continue to dislike how they have treated this game- for me and my 6 yr old daughter. I left it for a good few hours before I played last night, and loaded it to test how long it would last for a typical play, doing what my daughter would do. I found I had a full bowl of food. So, I checked the stats and sure enough, my dog needed a clean in order to get to platinum level and start earning cash. So, sure enough, the moment I started cleaning him his energy bar level plummeted dramatically from over halfway to almost nothing. What the????
So, I had to give him food, to boost him back up, leaving only .1 left in the bowl. I then bought my daughters dog in, as I knew that's what she would do in a typical play. Her dog was famished, so I gave it the remaining food, which took all of a second for it to eat. SECONDS later, it was asleep- the food had worn off. So I was left with my own dog who had barely any left himself. Just enough time to do a quick job with his rescue career, done, then asleep! That was it- a full bowl's worth of entertainment was used up within 10 minutes.
As others have said, cleaning is a joke. It really makes you wonder if it's worth cleaning the dog if it's going to diminish your playtime by so much. But of course you have to do it to get his bar to reach platinum.
Then there's sharing your food with other dogs- again, if your maximum is 1 bowl shared for your dog and any others that visit, your dogs barely have enough time to say hello to each other, let alone play!! So what's the point???
And I am looking at this from a 6 year old's perspective too. She likes iHusky etc- they are good enough for what they have set out to do. But she has tired of it now, and this was supposed to have been the game to beat the lot.
Like I said, I am not cheap and would gladly play. To put this games charges into perspective, I am on the Mac and Windows MMO "Onverse". It is a free download, and is completely FREE to play AS LONG AS YOU WANT. There is in-game currency you can find and collect as you explore and meet other users (yes, this uses their servers just like this game) that you can spend on clothes and furniture for your home. You have the option to purchase another form of currency (via paypal etc) which can be used to buy premium products in the game, and that is the only limitation! There is certainly no limit on play-time, and I have spent a good $30 on it.
Out of protest, I am not paying a cent to these people for their ridiculously priced dog food (before anyone says, it's not the quantity that's at fault- it's how little time it lasts especially when you have other dogs round).
I can see my daughter getting very bored of this, very quickly.
Come back iPuppy Husky, all is forgiven.
Hear hear!
If you prefer a paid version, just buy the 9,99$ food version which should last 1,5 months… longer most of us play iPhone games...
You are missing the point too.
All we want is to have ZERO restrictions. I played nintendogs waaay longer than 1 month, and I still play it now.
What ngmoco is doing is just stupid and greedy.
I would have given it a 5 star review if I payed $5-$10 for it, but now it gets only 1 star.
Think of all the money they could have made if the game was priced at $10?
Much more than now I should guess.
JonathanJ
11-11-2009, 01:17 PM
It's not that we have to pay anything, it's that the paying scheme is so ridiculous. Even Eliminate is still kind of fun if you don't pay, so the argument that that is free kind of holds up. This game is unplayable, so you don't really get anything free at all. Just a nice sleeping dog to look at.
I would have spent ten bucks on this game for a one time charge. Instead, I'm spending nothing. The people who buy the food bowls are enabling Ngmoco to do stuff like this in the future with other games. Will we have to pay to play for every five minutes of Rolando 3?
In the meantime I've held off on buying Rolando 2 so as to not give them any more money and I've also got iPuppy on my phone now.
Acidbottle
11-11-2009, 01:31 PM
i enjoy this game to, real quality app buuuuut, to kick the boot in further ..
seems like neither eliminate or touch pets are anywhere near the top 50 highest grossing games this week .. seems like greedy ngmoco's plan for world domination failed. good. now give us a proper game at a proper price kkthx :D
kmacleod
11-11-2009, 01:34 PM
i enjoy this game to, real quality app buuuuut, to kick the boot in further ..
seems like neither eliminate or touch pets are anywhere near the top 50 highest grossing games this week .. seems like greed ngmoco's plan for world domination failed. good. now give us a proper game at a proper price kkthx :D
Eliminate was just number 9 yesterday and at least number 15 today, and I've seen it as high as 3 or 4 within the week.
Touch Pets will never make the top grossing because it doesn't have DLC. Maybe all of them together would chart eventually, but I doubt it.
Mr. Charley
11-11-2009, 01:47 PM
It's not that we have to pay anything, it's that the paying scheme is so ridiculous. Even Eliminate is still kind of fun if you don't pay, so the argument that that is free kind of holds up. This game is unplayable, so you don't really get anything free at all. Just a nice sleeping dog to look at.
I would have spent ten bucks on this game for a one time charge. Instead, I'm spending nothing. The people who buy the food bowls are enabling Ngmoco to do stuff like this in the future with other games. Will we have to pay to play for every five minutes of Rolando 3?
In the meantime I've held off on buying Rolando 2 so as to not give them any more money and I've also got iPuppy on my phone now.
Agreed, Agreed, and agreed....of course, as all the people that are condoning this pricing model would say to you and Rolando 3:
"What are you complaining about, it's free...so what's the big deal that you can only control 1 Rolando, and so what if he only rolls backwards. It's free, how can you complain? Stop being so cheap and pay $9.99 to be able to control all the Rolandos on the screen and even go forward and backwards...even if it's only for 15 minutes" :rolleyes:
Anyways, looking forward to seeing how many people are paying anything in a few weeks time when they finally wake up and realize how little bang they got for their buck....
Acidbottle
11-11-2009, 02:02 PM
Eliminate was just number 9 yesterday and at least number 15 today, and I've seen it as high as 3 or 4 within the week.
Touch Pets will never make the top grossing because it doesn't have DLC. Maybe all of them together would chart eventually, but I doubt it.
ahh in the states i guess that could be the case, which i can conceed :) its not even number 1 free download here in teh uk.
good point about touch pets DLC tho, how do you measure this games success?
kmacleod
11-11-2009, 02:18 PM
ahh in the states i guess that could be the case, which i can conceed :) its not even number 1 free download here in teh uk.
good point about touch pets DLC tho, how do you measure this games success?
I'm surprised Eliminate isn't No 1 there, actually. It took number 1 free app here in the US and has never dropped yet.
We can't really measure it's success. Only the people at Ngmoco can actually lay out sales data for every game and see it all in a big-picture sense. We can only estimate based on what we've seen in the app store before, and what we think the app buying public is going to go for.
DaveMc99
11-11-2009, 02:28 PM
I'm surprised Eliminate isn't No 1 there, actually. It took number 1 free app here in the US and has never dropped yet. We can't really measure it's success.
http://topappoftheworld.com/global/2009-11-12/free
Touch Pets Dogs has hit the Top 100 Free Games. #51 moving up.
http://appshopper.com/bestsellers/games/free/?sort=change&dir=desc
It is a success if it is in the Top 100 and the pricing does not change. Look for a price change if it drops out of the Top 100.
kmacleod
11-11-2009, 02:52 PM
http://topappoftheworld.com/global/2009-11-12/free
Touch Pets Dogs has hit the Top 100 Free Games. #51 moving up.
http://appshopper.com/bestsellers/games/free/?sort=change&dir=desc
It is a success if it is in the Top 100 and the pricing does not change. Look for a price change if it drops out of the Top 100.
Interesting, I didn't realize that list was available! :)
Still, this doesn't really tell us how successful the games have been profit-wise. For that, we'd need to look at the Top Grossing list. And the point I was trying to make is that because TPD is being sold in different versions, there isn't any really useful way to see how profitable this distribution strategy has been. I mean, obviously if one of the paid version ramps up to the top of the charts we'll know, but if none of the paid versions hit the charts (as I'm suspecting will happen do to a perceived lack in value that many people have), then we won't really be able to see how well this strategy worked.
I think we can safely say that Eliminate has been a huge success, though.
kicko
11-11-2009, 04:50 PM
Can someone explain the buying food process. I started with the free then i bought the 20 bags of food with a bonus 16. Can i buy 20 bags of food again, or since it was an app, I would be forced to but 100, or 400 bags?
At what rate does the energy recharge? is it just the energy meter? or does your food suppy slowly grow?
thanks
Can someone explain the buying food process. I started with the free then i bought the 20 bags of food with a bonus 16. Can i buy 20 bags of food again, or since it was an app, I would be forced to but 100, or 400 bags?
At what rate does the energy recharge? is it just the energy meter? or does your food suppy slowly grow?
thanks
No you can buy the same package of food as many times as you want. Energy doesn't recharge [I don't think] but you get .1 bowls of dog food every 15 mins. However, if you have purchased dog food, you don't get the free .1 of food every 15 mins, that recharge rate doesn't start working again till you run out of food.
kmacleod
11-11-2009, 05:03 PM
No you can buy the same package of food as many times as you want. Energy doesn't recharge [I don't think] but you get .1 bowls of dog food every 15 mins. However, if you have purchased dog food, you don't get the free .1 of food every 15 mins, that recharge rate doesn't start working again till you run out of food.
No, you really can't buy the same package as many times as you want. Once you buy an app on the App Store, you cannot repurchase that app without creating a new account.
That is one reason why the move to this multi-app system is so confusing.
No, you really can't buy the same package as many times as you want. Once you buy an app on the App Store, you cannot repurchase that app without creating a new account.
That is one reason why the move to this multi-app system is so confusing.
Wait whaaaaaaaat?! Are you serious? That's absolutely ridiculous, I figured they were doing the same business model as Zynga. So you can only buy it once..that's absurd..I'm quickly losing respect for Ngmoco
Wait whaaaaaaaat?! Are you serious? That's absolutely ridiculous, I figured they were doing the same business model as Zynga. So you can only buy it once..that's absurd..I'm quickly losing respect for Ngmoco
That's how the other stuff works too. It seems ngmoco really can't win because they either release things that require in-app purchases and everyone who doesn't have 3.0 is upset, or they design it for 2.2.1 with multiple apps and everyone with 3.0 is upset. :P
JonathanJ
11-11-2009, 05:08 PM
Wait whaaaaaaaat?! Are you serious? That's absolutely ridiculous, I figured they were doing the same business model as Zynga. So you can only buy it once..that's absurd..I'm quickly losing respect for Ngmoco
Me too.
It's sad because before this whole Eliminate/Touch Pets debacle I highly respected the company. I love all their other games and was very much into the whole plus+ thing.
It really seems like they're shooting themselves in the foot with this.
That's how the other stuff works too. It seems ngmoco really can't win because they either release things that require in-app purchases and everyone who doesn't have 3.0 is upset, or they design it for 2.2.1 with multiple apps and everyone with 3.0 is upset. :P
For real? Damn. If you couldn't tell I never got into that nonsense..but thats crazy..so basically you can only buy the cheapest option once, and then you have to continue moving up through the price ranks? Why do people support that..
oliath
11-11-2009, 05:10 PM
If everyone from this thread was to contact ngmoco and express
their disapointment I am sure it would have an impact in them. Currently from their Twitter feed they seem more concerned about keeping eliminate alive now call of duty mw2 is out on consoles.
kicko
11-11-2009, 05:11 PM
Wait whaaaaaaaat?! Are you serious? That's absolutely ridiculous, I figured they were doing the same business model as Zynga. So you can only buy it once..that's absurd..I'm quickly losing respect for Ngmoco
Well thats how i felt, I dont have too much of a problem with the re-upping of food but dont be so damn cheap with the energy meter. I was afraid that if i buy the 9.99 120 bags with bonus 100 and the runs out i really have no choice but to but 10 & 20 amounts or the $30 400 bags.
Once you buy an app you can re-buy it, you always download again for free. This is not in app purchases but rather different apps with an account that syncs over their network.
I find the method of purchasing more food confusing and if all that is true... disappointing .
Me too.
It's sad because before this whole Eliminate/Touch Pets debacle I highly respected the company. I love all their other games and was very much into the whole plus+ thing.
It really seems like they're shooting themselves in the foot with this.
It seems so, and I agree, however they are making money so they don't care.
If everyone from this thread was to contact ngmoco and express
their disapointment I am sure it would have an impact in them. Currently from their Twitter feed they seem more concerned about keeping eliminate alive now call of duty mw2 is out on consoles.
I honestly don't think that would do anything. They have already received A LOT of feedback for Elim + TP: D and yet none of it seems to have been implemented. This is just my own opinion of course. I really don't think they are going to do a damn thing about any of this.
Devilishly Good
11-11-2009, 05:13 PM
No, you really can't buy the same package as many times as you want. Once you buy an app on the App Store, you cannot repurchase that app without creating a new account.
That is one reason why the move to this multi-app system is so confusing.
:confused:
....what...that just sounds insane to me...why would the purchase of DLC dog food count as the purchase of an app...that's just ridiculous
:confused:
....what...that just sounds insane to me...why would the purchase of DLC dog food count as the purchase of an app...that's just ridiculous
It was designed for 2.2.1, before DLC existed, much like all the other games/apps that use points.
Well thats how i felt, I dont have too much of a problem with the re-upping of food but dont be so damn cheap with the energy meter. I was afraid that if i buy the 9.99 120 bags with bonus 100 and the runs out i really have no choice but to but 10 & 20 amounts or the $30 400 bags.
Once you buy an app you can re-buy it, you always download again for free. This is not in app purchases but rather different apps with an account that syncs over their network.
I find the method of purchasing more food confusing and if all that is true... disappointing .
Well I think kmac is right..and thats what makes this all the more ridiculous. They're basically forcing you to go through the pricing models..I just don't understand how Ng went from one of my favorite devs to no more than another greedy dev..
Well I think kmac is right..and thats what makes this all the more ridiculous. They're basically forcing you to go through the pricing models..I just don't understand how Ng went from one of my favorite devs to no more than another greedy dev..
Unless ngmoco has two thugs at your house physically forcing you to click "Buy Now", no, not really.
kicko
11-11-2009, 05:16 PM
Whats dumb is eliminate has in app purchases , but touch pets does not?
I would have paid $15 for an unlimited game, now i paid 1.99 and probably not much more.
good business model example
(waits for a gameloft clone with unlimited game play)
Unless ngmoco has two thugs at your house physically forcing you to click "Buy Now", no, not really.
-_- Unnecessary comment. You know exactly what I meant.
JonathanJ
11-11-2009, 05:16 PM
It seems so, and I agree, however they are making money so they don't care.
I just don't understand why they wouldn't rather make money AND make the customers happy.
I just wish people would stop paying for these games to force them into making reasonable changes.
-_- Unnecessary comment. You know exactly what I meant.
They're not "basically forcing" you to do anything. In fact, you can play the game for free right up until the world ends on December 21st, 2012 if you wanted to.
I just don't understand why they wouldn't rather make money AND make the customers happy.
I just wish people would stop paying for these games to force them into making reasonable changes.
That would make sense to try and appease both sides, but making the customers happy would involve them losing money. :/
They're not "basically forcing" you to do anything. In fact, you can play the game for free right up until the world ends on December 21st, 2012 if you wanted to.
But for people who do enjoy the game and want to buy food, they have to eventually buy the more expensive packages. You're saying that isn't forceful? Really?
But for people who do enjoy the game and want to buy food, they have to eventually buy the more expensive packages. You're saying that isn't forceful? Really?
They don't have to buy anything.
JonathanJ
11-11-2009, 05:22 PM
That would make sense to try and appease both sides, but making the customers happy would involve them losing money. :/
They wouldn't lose money, they'd just make less than they would with this current scheme. I could be wrong, but I'm sure the company made plenty of money off of Rolando. Plus, if enough customers get upset and realize what a terrible system this is, they won't be around to buy future products.
It just seems like this is a very short-sighted idea.
kmacleod
11-11-2009, 05:27 PM
That's how the other stuff works too. It seems ngmoco really can't win because they either release things that require in-app purchases and everyone who doesn't have 3.0 is upset, or they design it for 2.2.1 with multiple apps and everyone with 3.0 is upset. :P
Well, 3.0 has been out for many months now. I'm all for backwards compatibility when it is reasonable, but in this case, it is really stretching it. I can't possibly imagine that the money they're losing by not having Touch Pets visible on the Top Grossing chart is being offset by the remaining 2.2 users...
Me too.
It's sad because before this whole Eliminate/Touch Pets debacle I highly respected the company. I love all their other games and was very much into the whole plus+ thing.
It really seems like they're shooting themselves in the foot with this.
What Eliminate debacle? Eliminate has over 20,000 reviews on iTunes and is a frequent member of the top 10 grossing apps chart. That hardly seems like a debacle to me.
But yes, the Touch Pets pricing scheme feels way off to me. I don't know though; I'm not a developer or an analyst. This pay-or-the-pet-starves method of DLC may work better than I'm predicting.
Well I think kmac is right..and thats what makes this all the more ridiculous. They're basically forcing you to go through the pricing models..I just don't understand how Ng went from one of my favorite devs to no more than another greedy dev..
They can be my favorite developer and still be greedy. Greed is what drives a capitalist economy, and a capitalist economy is what drives innovation. My worries about this pricing scheme aren't about being unwilling to pay for a game, or even pay small chunks of DLC for a game. My worry is that this pricing scheme is doomed to failure.
They're not "basically forcing" you to do anything. In fact, you can play the game for free right up until the world ends on December 21st, 2012 if you wanted to.
I think you might be reading people wrong here. I don't think anyone is saying that they're unwilling to pay for the game. People seem to be complaining about the manner in which they're being asked to pay for the game.
There are legitimate complaints that can be made about how Ngmoco has chosen to charge for this game, and trying to silence these complaints with a "if you don't like it, don't buy it" response seems to be missing the point of having a discussion...
onewithchaos
11-11-2009, 05:36 PM
They don't have to buy anything.
I think this applies more for Eliminate Hodapp. I see your point, i really do. But the people playing this obviously dont think its free. Here is a perfect response to what you just said.
wastedyuthe, I have to agree whole-heartedly with all your points.
Plain and simple, the way the game is made right now, it's techinically "free" but to honestly have any good play time with the game, you will need to invest, and invest heavily.
For everyone saying not to complain, it's free, is the cheapest (no pun intended) argument you can make.
You are right, in the sense that the game is technically free, but to have any enjoyment beyond the 5 minutes of alloted time, you're going to have to pay up.
It's like saying the movie theatre is having free movies tonight...but when you get there, you only get sound for 5 minutes...after that you better be prepared to ante up another $.99 for every 5 minutes of the movie. Nope, sorry, you can't complain that there's no sound after 5 minutes, it's free after all!
In the end, instead of paying the $10 for the movie, you'll have spent $29.99....but what do you have to complain about? It's free after all...
This isn't Eliminate where you dont need to pay to play. That's all people are saying. And aside from the lack of a "free game" with in-app purchasing, the pricing options are really bad. Again, I agree with your point of view but only for Eliminate, for this game I think Ngmoco really screwed up and if they don't want it to backlash it should be fixed promptly.
Glad to see a couple of you summed up what I was trying to say.
onewithchaos
11-11-2009, 05:41 PM
Glad to see a couple of you summed up what I was trying to say.
It has been discussed earlier, but ngmoco needs to be reminded to make a better system. I see Hodapp's view and I think its great what ngmoco is doing with Eliminate but this TouchPets game is seriously flawed.
It has been discussed earlier, but ngmoco needs to be reminded to make a better system. I see Hodapp's view and I think its great what ngmoco is doing with Eliminate but this TouchPets game is seriously flawed.
True, Eliminate's pricing scheme is ok But to keep the 4 hour recharge rate is utterly ridiculous IMO, along with a few other serious flaws..but I'm not going into that here. And yea at least you can play Elim for free, but TP: D..just seems they didn't think it all the way through.
JonathanJ
11-11-2009, 05:48 PM
True, Eliminate's pricing scheme is ok But to keep the 4 hour recharge rate is utterly ridiculous IMO, along with a few other serious flaws..but I'm not going into that here. And yea at least you can play Elim for free, but TP: D..just seems they didn't think it all the way through.
Seems to me that a way to play with the dog but not earn money while she has no energy might be fair. Or something like that, I'm not good at coming up with those kinds of ideas.
All I know now is that a bath takes away half my dog's energy. I only get one full bowl per recharge. The game is unplayable as free, like I've said before you basically get a free screen saver of a sleeping dog.
Seems to me that a way to play with the dog but not earn money while she has no energy might be fair. Or something like that, I'm not good at coming up with those kinds of ideas.
All I know now is that a bath takes away half my dog's energy. I only get one full bowl per recharge. The game is unplayable as free, like I've said before you basically get a free screen saver of a sleeping dog.
Funny you shouldn't mention that idea because I said the same thing a few pages back. Makes sense to me.
This isn't Eliminate where you dont need to pay to play. That's all people are saying. And aside from the lack of a "free game" with in-app purchasing, the pricing options are really bad. Again, I agree with your point of view but only for Eliminate, for this game I think Ngmoco really screwed up and if they don't want it to backlash it should be fixed promptly.
But it works the same way as Epic Pet Wars which a ridiculous amount of people play on a daily basis. I log in on my little Epic Pet, do some training until he runs out of energy, do some battles until I run out of HP, buy some junk with the in-game money then I'm done until everything recharges.
OR I can do the various junk to get respect points and use those points to buy whatever weird items there are that keep me playing. The only difference between Epic Pet Wars and TouchPets is that TouchPets is more accessible since the interface is remarkably intuitive compared to Epic Pet Wars which plays like a browser game.
JonathanJ
11-11-2009, 06:02 PM
But it works the same way as Epic Pet Wars which a ridiculous amount of people play on a daily basis. I log in on my little Epic Pet, do some training until he runs out of energy, do some battles until I run out of HP, buy some junk with the in-game money then I'm done until everything recharges.
OR I can do the various junk to get respect points and use those points to buy whatever weird items there are that keep me playing. The only difference between Epic Pet Wars and TouchPets is that TouchPets is more accessible since the interface is remarkably intuitive compared to Epic Pet Wars which plays like a browser game.
With epic pet wars you can create many different pets if you really wanted to play for a sustained period of time (not sure why anyone would want to though)
You don't have to feed all of those pets with one bowl, so with TouchPets there's no way to play for a sustained period of time.
onewithchaos
11-11-2009, 06:03 PM
But it works the same way as Epic Pet Wars which a ridiculous amount of people play on a daily basis. I log in on my little Epic Pet, do some training until he runs out of energy, do some battles until I run out of HP, buy some junk with the in-game money then I'm done until everything recharges.
OR I can do the various junk to get respect points and use those points to buy whatever weird items there are that keep me playing. The only difference between Epic Pet Wars and TouchPets is that TouchPets is more accessible since the interface is remarkably intuitive compared to Epic Pet Wars which plays like a browser game.
You see, people are complaining that things such as washing your dog takes over half a bowl of food. You log into epic pet wars and do training and battles whereas in Touchpets you basically wash him and play with him for a lil bit and its over. The difference is that epic pet wars is about battling whereas touchpets is about owning a pet and the social aspects of it. I'm sure if i could do 1 battle every 4 hours with my robodog and kick some other pup's arse, that it would be fun. But you cant do that b/c the gameplay isnt the same. AND as of now, the only option is to buy food or not, we can't do other junk to get respect points which just shows how the pricing and food bowls needs reconstructing
With epic pet wars you can create many different pets if you really wanted to play for a sustained period of time (not sure why anyone would want to though)
You don't have to feed all of those pets with one bowl, so with TouchPets there's no way to play for a sustained period of time.
I guess but I kind of doubt your typical Epic Pet Wars player is maintaining 30 different pets so once they're done with pet #30, pet #1 is all ready to go again.
Daxmort
11-11-2009, 06:21 PM
Any way you slice it, Hodapp, your arguments don't hold water.
People have already stated, the games are not comparable, by genre or cost.
One is essentially a Tamgotchi, the other is a web-based MMO-type-game in the vein of iMafia and those sorts of browser games. There's a huge difference, and being only able to stare at it for two hours without interacting with it unless paying, is not the way Tamagotchis are supposed to work.
It will more likely than not just annoy customers, as seems to be the case here. More people than not have said they are displeased with the current payment method.
It is the way this Tamogotchi works, though.
onewithchaos
11-11-2009, 06:29 PM
It is the way this Tamogotchi works, though.
yes it is, and we're saying it's not working. You can say "but its a free game" but i believe i covered that with Mr. Charley's previous post. As consumers we like the game, just not pricing options. Thats all we're saying, and fortunately for us we have 2 or 3 active members of the dev team listening to us. The question is, are they listening hard enough?
It is the way this Tamogotchi works, though.
This game doesn't even qualify as a Tamagotchi though.. With those, you were always able to play with them. Not the case in TP: D
DaveMc99
11-11-2009, 06:34 PM
iPuppy World is now on sale for 99 cents http://forums.toucharcade.com/showthread.php?t=28717
There is little interest in it. Why is Touch Pets Dogs better? Might help explain the pay to play part of this game. ;)
onewithchaos
11-11-2009, 06:37 PM
This game doesn't even qualify as a Tamagotchi though.. With those, you were always able to play with them. Not the case in TP: D
he just said that b/c someone earlier compared touchpets to a tamagotchi. God i miss tamagotchi now :(
JonathanJ
11-11-2009, 06:38 PM
From what I've seen from iPuppy Lite so far, there's basically no interaction. You feed the dog, and watch it eat. You watch it run around. It sits there. You take it on a walk and watch it walk.
It's okay for free, but the level of interaction in TouchPets is much better. Now if I could just play it...:)
he just said that b/c someone earlier compared touchpets to a tamagotchi. God i miss tamagotchi now :(
Ohhk. Yea me too haha they were the shit back when I was little..DigiPets were tight too xD
onewithchaos
11-11-2009, 06:47 PM
hmm maybe i should just buy a tamagotchi from ebay or something....very tempted now
wastedyuthe
11-11-2009, 08:13 PM
iPuppy World is now on sale for 99 cents http://forums.toucharcade.com/showthread.php?t=28717
There is little interest in it. Why is Touch Pets Dogs better? Might help explain the pay to play part of this game. ;)
From what I've seen from iPuppy Lite so far, there's basically no interaction. You feed the dog, and watch it eat. You watch it run around. It sits there. You take it on a walk and watch it walk.
It's okay for free, but the level of interaction in TouchPets is much better. Now if I could just play it...:)
Yes, I bought iPuppy World for 59p, and it has many good qualities, but does indeed fall short in the interactive aspect. You can buy a ball, but you can't throw it. You can buy a tug, but you can't tug it. However, when you compare the two, although this game is technically better and has more interaction when allowed, iPuppy allows you to play, clean, clothe, take for walks, let him sleep, wake him up, pet him etc etc all day long if you like.
Compare that to this game, where you have better interaction, but only for 6 minutes every 2 hours. Hmmmm, choices choices.
Boardumb
11-11-2009, 08:50 PM
I was unaware of how the purchase of food was in this game until I did it myself. With the Canadian beta, the food buying portion just led you to a list of pricing options. I assumed you just clicked on one, and it charged you and added the bowls into your account. I thought that the different apps available were just if you wanted to pay off the bat for a discounted allotment of food bowls. But when it came out in the US, I eventually figured I'd pick up the 10 bowl (rather 18 bowl) pack to have some extra food for playdates and whatnot. I was quite appalled that I had to download an entire different app. And I didn't know until this thread that you weren't able to purchase the different options more than once. I think that's just flat out crazy. And despite the fact that we're talking about digital downloads from cyberspace, it seems archaic to me. I'm not familiar with the mafia games, so I wasn't aware that they worked in a similar fashion. But what happens if I buy all the bowl options, and go on a puppy playing rampage, and burn through every last one. Do I have to stop playing the game then? It just seems so silly, and perhaps I feel spoiled with how smoothly in app purchases work in Eliminate, but I can't see buying any more food bowls. I probably would go for the $10 one, but if I do that and run out all that's left is to spend $30 to keep playing. And I'm pretty sure this game doesn't quite compel me to spend $30+ on it. $10-$12 I'm on board for, but not more. All this being said, I think they will fix it. They'll add it in as in app purchases and make it 3.0 exclusive. They'll have to, I think. And I think they'll make some changes to the overall problems with how fast energy is consumed. Too many people are upset about it for them not to do something, at least I hope.
...
(waits for a gameloft clone with unlimited game play)
I could really see this happening sometime soon. If I was a developer, I'd make this game immediately. :D
SilverScarab
11-11-2009, 09:00 PM
I could really see this happening sometime soon. If I was a developer, I'd make this game immediately. :D
*begs gameloft*
TIMELESS
11-11-2009, 09:19 PM
I was unaware of how the purchase of food was in this game until I did it myself. With the Canadian beta, the food buying portion just led you to a list of pricing options. I assumed you just clicked on one, and it charged you and added the bowls into your account. I thought that the different apps available were just if you wanted to pay off the bat for a discounted allotment of food bowls. But when it came out in the US, I eventually figured I'd pick up the 10 bowl (rather 18 bowl) pack to have some extra food for playdates and whatnot. I was quite appalled that I had to download an entire different app. And I didn't know until this thread that you weren't able to purchase the different options more than once. I think that's just flat out crazy. And despite the fact that we're talking about digital downloads from cyberspace, it seems archaic to me. I'm not familiar with the mafia games, so I wasn't aware that they worked in a similar fashion. But what happens if I buy all the bowl options, and go on a puppy playing rampage, and burn through every last one. Do I have to stop playing the game then? It just seems so silly, and perhaps I feel spoiled with how smoothly in app purchases work in Eliminate, but I can't see buying any more food bowls. I probably would go for the $10 one, but if I do that and run out all that's left is to spend $30 to keep playing. And I'm pretty sure this game doesn't quite compel me to spend $30+ on it. $10-$12 I'm on board for, but not more. All this being said, I think they will fix it. They'll add it in as in app purchases and make it 3.0 exclusive. They'll have to, I think. And I think they'll make some changes to the overall problems with how fast energy is consumed. Too many people are upset about it for them not to do something, at least I hope.
I could really see this happening sometime soon. If I was a developer, I'd make this game immediately. :D
I did not know that about the food purchases. l was stupid and bought the 29.99 dollar pack but I will not buy again. I had the free version and I had alot of puppy bucks and awards I lost all of it when I bought the 30 dollar pack.This is not fair. Unless they fix this they will get no more of my money not for this game.
kmacleod
11-11-2009, 09:24 PM
I did not know that about the food purchases. l was stupid and bought the 29.99 dollar pack but I will not buy again. I had the free version and I had alot of puppy bucks and awards I lost all of it when I bought the 30 dollar pack.This is not fair. Unless they fix this they will get no more of my money not for this game.
That sounds like a serious bug. The food system is messed up right now, but not that messed up. The second app is just supposed to augment your current app and add the food to your current save profile. The two builds are supposed to sync to the Plus+ server and share the exact same puppy information.
Did you make sure to sign in with the same Plus+ profile on both versions of the app?
Anways, contact Ngmoco's customer support over this, it is a bug that they might be able to fix.
Boardumb
11-11-2009, 09:30 PM
I did not know that about the food purchases. l was stupid and bought the 29.99 dollar pack but I will not buy again. I had the free version and I had alot of puppy bucks and awards I lost all of it when I bought the 30 dollar pack.This is not fair. Unless they fix this they will get no more of my money not for this game.
Well, it doesn't work quite like that. Your puppy and account are saved on ngmoco's servers. So you shouldn't have lost any puppy bucks or awards when buying the new pack. You should just be able to open the new app, it'll jump online and register that you bought it and credit you with the appropriate amount of food bowls. You could just delete one of the apps after this and go back to your original app. If you lost game save data while doing this, then that's got to be some sort of bug. You might try emailing ngmoco support to find out about that.The problem is it's just plain clumsy, and limiting. I'm interested to know how long your $30 pack lasts you, cause currently if you run out your only options are the $10 or the $2. And after you use those, well I guess it's game over time.
EDIT: kmac pretty much beat me too it ;)
mjmoco
11-11-2009, 09:48 PM
That sounds like a serious bug. The food system is messed up right now, but not that messed up. The second app is just supposed to augment your current app and add the food to your current save profile. The two builds are supposed to sync to the Plus+ server and share the exact same puppy information.
Did you make sure to sign in with the same Plus+ profile on both versions of the app?
Anways, contact Ngmoco's customer support over this, it is a bug that they might be able to fix.
This shouldn't be happening. All your data is saved to your Plus+ account and your pups et al should be retrievable as long as you're logging into the same account.
--MJ
ImNoSuperMan
11-12-2009, 09:15 AM
This just in..
ngmico twitter..
Neil: New version of TouchPets coming soon with InApp Purchasing for 3.0. For those wondering why the app packs -40% of users are on 2.2.1
40% users on 2.2.1??? I wonder how many of the will shell out for dog food when they wont pay 5 bucks for 3.0 :rolleyes:
kmacleod
11-12-2009, 09:24 AM
This just in..
ngmico twitter..
40% users on 2.2.1??? I wonder how many of the will shell out for dog food when they wont pay 5 bucks for 3.0 :rolleyes:
That is definitely the important question - how many of the 2.2.1 users are actually paying for food? I'd guess not many, but still, 40% is a hell of a lot more users than I was expecting in the first place, so I could certainly be way off.
Anyways, glad to see that they'll be putting out a 3.0 version ;)
Harpua
11-12-2009, 09:38 AM
Hey guys, sorry if this has already been asked... but is it possible to get rid of a dog after you've adopted it?? I fooled around & adopted a second dog & now I want to send the little beast back to the pound! he keeps eating my main dogs food!! :p
kmacleod
11-12-2009, 10:04 AM
Hey guys, sorry if this has already been asked... but is it possible to get rid of a dog after you've adopted it?? I fooled around & adopted a second dog & now I want to send the little beast back to the pound! he keeps eating my main dogs food!! :p
Well I think the only way to do that now is to create a new Plus+ account to use with the game. Hopefully they'll add some sort of solution to this, but still - I think that giving kids the message that "if you don't like your puppy you can just get rid of it and get a new one" might be the wrong idea...
wastedyuthe
11-12-2009, 10:14 AM
Well I think the only way to do that now is to create a new Plus+ account to use with the game. Hopefully they'll add some sort of solution to this, but still - I think that giving kids the message that "if you don't like your puppy you can just get rid of it and get a new one" might be the wrong idea...
This is a game- not real life. Kids know that. If you can wipe the game clean with Nintendogs, why not this? This is something else the devs should have thought of- this question has been asked numerous times, and rightly so as the game gives no indication of any way of accomplishing it.
TIMELESS
11-12-2009, 10:18 AM
That is definitely the important question - how many of the 2.2.1 users are actually paying for food? I'd guess not many, but still, 40% is a hell of a lot more users than I was expecting in the first place, so I could certainly be way off.
Anyways, glad to see that they'll be putting out a 3.0 version ;)
wait a minute I always buy the upgrade stuff for my ipod mine is 3.1.2 I think. I did not know the dogs where only for 2.2.1 users. I did have some trouble getting it to take my e-mail and stuff again. I love the dogs. I do hope they change the food thing. I can not always pay 30 dollars for it. But I love the dogs I will always want to have some kind of food pack and would like to beable to buy another puppy and clothes and game packs would be nice.
Mr. Crazy
11-12-2009, 10:26 AM
This just in..
ngmico twitter..
40% users on 2.2.1??? I wonder how many of the will shell out for dog food when they wont pay 5 bucks for 3.0 :rolleyes:
All my friends with iPod touches who don't have 2.2.1 are people who have never spent any money on a app. Got every app free.
Harpua
11-12-2009, 10:35 AM
Thanks for the info! Guess I gotta keep feeding him :confused: You know, an option to play with just one dog at a time would take care of this problem. Had I known that I was gonna have a room full of dogs, I would've never adopted again! The only reason I chose to get another dog in the first place was to complete the rescue mission that requires two animals.... Oh well.
kmacleod
11-12-2009, 10:40 AM
Thanks for the info! Guess I gotta keep feeding him :confused: You know, an option to play with just one dog at a time would take care of this problem. Had I known that I was gonna have a room full of dogs, I would've never adopted again! The only reason I chose to get another dog in the first place was to complete the rescue mission that requires two animals.... Oh well.
Oh, you can play with one dog at a time! Just tap your picture in the upper left corner of the screen, switch to the "My Dogs" tab, and deselect the dog you don't want to play with
Harpua
11-12-2009, 12:18 PM
Oh, you can play with one dog at a time! Just tap your picture in the upper left corner of the screen, switch to the "My Dogs" tab, and deselect the dog you don't want to play with
Ok, I'm stupid:o I must have looked at that screen 50 times & never thought to click the dogs picture. Thank you so much!!! Now I can treat one of my dogs like an unwanted stepchild;)
kmacleod
11-12-2009, 04:04 PM
Ok, I'm stupid:o I must have looked at that screen 50 times & never thought to click the dogs picture. Thank you so much!!! Now I can treat one of my dogs like an unwanted stepchild;)
Aww, now I regret telling you :p
Boardumb
11-12-2009, 04:21 PM
Ok, I'm stupid:o I must have looked at that screen 50 times & never thought to click the dogs picture. Thank you so much!!! Now I can treat one of my dogs like an unwanted stepchild;)
Aww, now I regret telling you :p
Hahahaha, that is hilarious!
Yay I'm glad they'll be adding in app purchases. I figured that they would have to eventually. But seriously, 40% of people are using 2.2.1??? That's crazy, I had no idea so many people don't have 3.0. :confused:
kmacleod
11-12-2009, 04:28 PM
Hahahaha, that is hilarious!
Yay I'm glad they'll be adding in app purchases. I figured that they would have to eventually. But seriously, 40% of people are using 2.2.1??? That's crazy, I had no idea so many people don't have 3.0. :confused:
That is unfortunate that so many people are still using OS 2, it must be hurting developers to have to cut platform-specific features from their apps to appeal to the older market. I really am curious about how many of the 2.2.1 users are actually purchasing DLC-like content in the first place, though.
Apple needs make the update free, and stop providing support for the older versions. They shouldn't go so far as making updates mandatory like on the PSP, but they should be strongly encouraging it. Charging money to update doesn't count as encouragement.
yrrebeulb19
11-12-2009, 04:53 PM
Hahahaha, that is hilarious!
Yay I'm glad they'll be adding in app purchases. I figured that they would have to eventually. But seriously, 40% of people are using 2.2.1??? That's crazy, I had no idea so many people don't have 3.0. :confused:
What I don't get is that only iPod touch users had to pay to upgrade, and Touch Pets already screws them with the required connection. So it seems like something they wouldn't worry about since, by that logic, they already alienated most of the people who haven't upgraded.
ImNoSuperMan
11-12-2009, 06:15 PM
ngmoco Twitter...
Woof! RT @TouchPetsDogs: We've replaced your food with premium chow. Now your puppies will have a lot more energy!
Fantastic :D
Harpua
11-12-2009, 06:41 PM
Aww, now I regret telling you :p
Ok, you made me feel bad... So I gave him a chew toy before I locked him outside:D
TIMELESS
11-12-2009, 06:57 PM
In case anyone cares I logged in and than I feed my puppy and I could play with her about 14 minutes before she went to sleep. That is about 120 bowls of dog food a month for an hour a day.
Diablohead
11-12-2009, 08:14 PM
The new food energy levels are much better now (for being free, still has it's limits) but I am glad to see that now I can do quite a few things with my dog before running out of energy. Compared to giving her a wash and throwing a few sticks before she was tired, anything was better :p
SilverScarab
11-12-2009, 08:26 PM
The new food energy levels are much better now (for being free, still has it's limits) but I am glad to see that now I can do quite a few things with my dog before running out of energy. Compared to giving her a wash and throwing a few sticks before she was tired, anything was better :p
Yeah, it's much better. If there is any kind of confirmation from ngmoco about this being permanent and not just a limited offer type of thing, I'll gladly buy a pack of food. :)
Yeah, it's much better. If there is any kind of confirmation from ngmoco about this being permanent and not just a limited offer type of thing, I'll gladly buy a pack of food. :)
Me too.
The only thing holding me back now is the lack of in app purchase. Buying the packs is too confusing and complicated for me. Now I shall wait for the update.
wastedyuthe
11-13-2009, 02:04 AM
So, new message when I put this back on my iPhone this morning - New Premium dog food that will make the dogs energy last longer!
Ok, so here we go with another timed playtest (last one meaasured a full 6 minutes):
Loaded the app at 7:38. Fed him, fussed him, let him out the back and picked up his mess, did a few tricks, rolled around the agility ball, cleaned him, (completed the Daily Care and Tricks goals), bought a laser sight and completed his next rescue job, then asleep at 7:49. Total time 11 minutes play.
Ok, this is a whole 5 minutes more than before, but it still doesn't stop the fact that you are too busy trying to get your goals done before the time runs out instead of being able to just stop and play with your dog and enjoy being with it! Isn't that what these games are supposed to be about? Also, take into account that the above playtest didn't even include any playdate with another dog!!
If they are indeed updating this game to have in-app purchases, I really do hope they add premium items to buy other than food. I really want to contribute financially to this game!! But not at the foods current price and rate of energy decline. I hate games telling me I can't play anymore! Onverse doesn't do that, why should this?
This is STILL not suitable for young kids, and as an adult I am still not happy that I can't relax and play with my dog without worrying about time constraints.
Ok so I *think* I might have found an alternative to the energy-costly sponge when cleaning your dog. Use the shampoo. You just take it out, use it, put it back, rinse & repeat till your pup is completely clean. I didn't really gauge it too closely, but it did seem like it didn't use as much energy. Dunno if anyone else has said this, but I figured I might as well let others know so they can see if it is a better alternative.
arnoldc
11-13-2009, 12:11 PM
I am glad Ngmoco is listening. The longer lasting dog food makes the Free game more enjoyable as one can actually do something with the dog.
But I am still in the fend to pay for the foods until they make a proper in-app payment. The in-app payment works great in RC2. It is a big oversight leaving out such important function for this type of games.
IpodLady
11-13-2009, 12:33 PM
Can anyone tell me how to get a romance going? I have a female dog and lots of acquaintances and only one or two "friends" of the same sex.
WolfgangK
11-13-2009, 01:05 PM
So terribly ironic, that this game seems to be designed around, ngmoco making money, and not, being able to enjoy the experience of playing with your dog.
When you're having to alter your game experience, just squeeze out a little time to play with your dog, there is a fundamental problem.
It would seem to me, that a game like this, it's main goal, is for you to enjoy your time and play with your virtual pet, vs. eeking 5-10 minutes of time, very little of which is enjoyable playtime.
ngmoco may be making money off this, but as far as fun and experience? Fail.
I'd be more than happy to pay full price, for the full game, and enjoy the content I just purchased.
But I have no desire to sit and try and eek out some playtime with my pet while I pump coins into my iPhone/iPod. We tried that already, and if you can find an arcade these days within 5 minutes of your location, you'd be pretty lucky.
-and before anyone says, they're in the business to make money, of course they are. However, companies like Nintendo do it right-create fun content, and make BOATLOADS of $ without the micro-rapements.
GodSon
11-13-2009, 01:08 PM
Can anyone tell me how to get a romance going? I have a female dog and lots of acquaintances and only one or two "friends" of the same sex.
Add me and we can make it happen! :D
B-Money
11-13-2009, 01:42 PM
So, new message when I put this back on my iPhone this morning - New Premium dog food that will make the dogs energy last longer!
Ok, this is a whole 5 minutes more than before, but it still doesn't stop the fact that you are too busy trying to get your goals done before the time runs out instead of being able to just stop and play with your dog and enjoy being with it! Isn't that what these games are supposed to be about? Also, take into account that the above playtest didn't even include any playdate with another dog!!
Trying to understand what you mean by getting your goals done "before time runs out". Aspects of the game that increase your levels faster and dish out more puppy bucks (career steps, strength training) are therefore going to deplete your energy much faster. Your energy will obviously deplete faster if your whole session is spent doing a heavy dose of these activities. If you want to "stop and play with your dog", your energy is going to deplete at a MUCH slower rate. Things like petting and cleaning aren't going to deplete your energy as fast.
Also, keep in mind that once you max out a stat, you don't have to stop there. If you are at 100% petting, petting your dog will no longer deplete your energy until the stat drops again. If you want to focus on leveling up your caretaking, training, and social levels as fast as possible, you will need to probably purchase some food to do that.
This tuning change has given more time per play session for all users (another 5 minutes in your case, and probably similar for min/max type players). For the more casual and free player who is just enjoying their puppy, and maybe doing some petting/cleaning, their play-time will increase by just as much, if not more.
Thanks for your feedback, and we will continue to make the best play experience possible for everyone.
B-Money
ngmoco
xxanderr1234
11-14-2009, 04:48 AM
Hi B-Money
Just wanted to drop you a line thanking you for a great game in Touch Pets.
But I think you guys at ngmoco have completly dropped the ball with it and will in the end pay dearly.
Touch Pets is easily as good as Nintendogs which when playing you can tell is an inspiration. But where as Nintendogs sold millions of copies Touch Pets is going to generate you nothing like the revenues it could of done if you'd sold it correctly.
The main problem is its just to limiting in allowing you to play with your puppy. I know they want to generate money with this product, but they are doing everything in there power to turn people away. First and foremost this is a game and it should be fun, but Touch Pets isnt. You need to plan and organise your time if your going to use the game the way the free version plays. You have to buy food basically, but the food is such terrible value its turning people away. I bought the 18 food bowls and it lasted 3 days of not really playing, I wont be buying any more food packs and its really sad because i love this game.
My idea to change this is to treat the current version as a lite version and people can suppliment the lite version with the food packs. But You should release a Premium version and it be structured differently. I think the Premium version should be $9.99 and you get 1 dog, 1 career option and 10 bowls of food and each bowl lasts at the current rate. If you run out of food the game regenerates up to 2 bowls at the current regeneration rate. But you can buy food bowls with puppy bucks. What you do is charge $2 each for each additional adoption slot and each career slot. Also you could release new breeds of dog at $5 for a pack of 3 breeds. This way for $9.99 you get a fully functioning game, but if you want more you pay more.
wastedyuthe
11-14-2009, 06:52 AM
Trying to understand what you mean by getting your goals done "before time runs out"....
Thank you for your response B-Money.
But even when my daughter turned it on to feed, clean, play, and playdate with my own puppy, there simply wasn't enough time! Do you realise this game actually made my daughter UPSET??? As game developers, aren't you supposed to be making people happy and satisfied with your games?
Why is it an online MMO such as Onverse allows UNLIMITED time using their severs, meeting other users, chatting to them, and no-doubt using their severs a lot more than your own with your app? They only give their users an option to purchase premium clothes/costumes/furniture/homes with real money via Paypal etc, but users are under no obligation. Yet I have spent $30 on Onverse (which I was very happy to do) yet nothing on your game.
The main issue here, is I want to be the one to say "ok, I've finished now", NOT the game!
Charge for the app. Give us premium items to buy. Give use new premium items to buy every month to keep the money coming in. ANYTHING! Just stop restricting play so we can actually enjoy playing the game, because otherwise is would be one of my favourite apps and definitely worthy of a 5 star review!
DaveMc99
11-14-2009, 09:08 AM
iPuppy World it is now the #86 Top Grossing game. Someone will create a better offline version of this type of game.
PeterM11
11-14-2009, 09:56 AM
iPuppy World it is now the #86 Top Grossing game. Someone will create a better offline version of this type of game.
They really need to make it playable offline. Just store the data on the device and update Plus+ when theres a connection. I also think they should store data for Eliminate so you can play against bots with your weapons and armor and be able to see how much you've upgraded your armor.
The only thing I can really see wrong with this is that they would have to make the timer for food run offline or something I guess... or else when you're playing offline it wouldn't even recharge. But for Eliminate I don't see why they couldn't do that.
TIMELESS
11-14-2009, 10:42 AM
I love this game but it does need some updates. I agree you should beable to play the game as long as you like. I love my puppy games That is one game I will not delete. I Have foopets I feed them every morning and play ball with them and I do the same at night. I will keep Touch pets too because I love the dogs. I just think the food recharge should last an hour atleast. 15 minutes or 10 is nothing If you really enjoy playing the game. I would buy another dog you have to buy another dog on Foo pets and clothing. I would gladly buy the game I have already spent 30 dollars on food and I would pay for a subsription for the game and buy more doggies and clothing. Any of these things would be better than buying food like this. we could use puppy bucks for food. It is a great game needs something to make everyone happy.
kmacleod
11-14-2009, 11:34 AM
It might be a good idea to make a 3 dollar "Sandbox" version of the game that features an offline mode with no goals, careers, or caretaker points. Just a way to play with the dog without an internet connection or food.
While I personally would rather play with the online features, a lot of people seem to want this type of sandbox game. I think it would be a good idea to just make the game that people really want.
Hell, just make the sandbox mode a paid DLC upgrade to the free version. That way, you get the benefit of having the main SKU on the "Top Grossing" list, and you get the added piracy protection that DLC adds.
Tarcin
11-14-2009, 11:41 AM
The game is ok. But the dog runs out of energy to ofast and it seems like more of a chore (though I have a dog) taking care of the dog. I don't really find it fun throwing a freaking stick to my virtual blob 10 times so i get some friggin award. I would like a sandbox mode like the above said.
arnoldc
11-14-2009, 11:46 AM
There is one easy solution to address this dilema. Ngcomo stills continue allowing users to play with their dogs when energy runs out but all stats won't go up and won't generate tokens. Would that work for everyone?
wastedyuthe
11-14-2009, 11:49 AM
It might be a good idea to make a 3 dollar "Sandbox" version of the game that features an offline mode with no goals, careers, or caretaker points. Just a way to play with the dog without an internet connection or food.
Well myself and my daughter would get bored very quickly if there was nothing left in the game except petting, dressing, and playing with them in the garden. We love the idea of daily goals and careers etc, we just don't want to pay a fortune for the privilege of playing for longer than 10 minutes every 2 hours. Take all the career and goals out of the game, and it will still get 1 star ratings, only for being boring instead of being a rip-off.
Keep everything in the game- just give us a lot more time to play with our pets (enough so that we can relax with it and not worry about time constraints) and give us premium items to buy as I mentioned before. Hell, even my 6 year old daughter has iTunes credit I am sure she would be happy to spend a couple of quid on for a cowboy hat for her dog! You could make new items available for us to buy throughout the year- Santa hats at Christmas for example! You would get plenty of money coming in if you'd just get it right.
Elkas
11-14-2009, 11:49 AM
There is one easy solution to address this dilema. Ngcomo stills continue allowing users to play with their dogs when energy runs out but all stats won't go up and won't generate tokens. Would that work for everyone?
That's the Greatest Idea I've seen so Far.
+100000
SilverScarab
11-14-2009, 11:51 AM
Thank you for your response B-Money.
But even when my daughter turned it on to feed, clean, play, and playdate with my own puppy, there simply wasn't enough time! Do you realise this game actually made my daughter UPSET??? As game developers, aren't you supposed to be making people happy and satisfied with your games?
Why is it an online MMO such as Onverse allows UNLIMITED time using their severs, meeting other users, chatting to them, and no-doubt using their severs a lot more than your own with your app? They only give their users an option to purchase premium clothes/costumes/furniture/homes with real money via Paypal etc, but users are under no obligation. Yet I have spent $30 on Onverse (which I was very happy to do) yet nothing on your game.
The main issue here, is I want to be the one to say "ok, I've finished now", NOT the game!
Charge for the app. Give us premium items to buy. Give use new premium items to buy every month to keep the money coming in. ANYTHING! Just stop restricting play so we can actually enjoy playing the game, because otherwise is would be one of my favourite apps and definitely worthy of a 5 star review!
I agree completely. Nintendogs is the highest grossing game for the DS, but I can assure you that would not be the case if you had to pay to play. This form of payment just does not work for a virtual pet game. If you went to a dave and busters or chucky cheese and saw a game where you could play with a virtual puppy for 5 minutes and then had to put in more quarters to play another 5 minutes, it would fail.
Even in a game like Eliminate, you have a certain amount of credits, you finish a match and you are done. There is a sense of finality with your credits. With Touchpets, there is NOT. I have literally had my puppy fall asleep while taking a poop. LITERALLY. I end up quitting the game and feeling unsatisfied each time I play.
I think you really need to rethink your strategy with this game. This is not a mafia style game, this is a virtual pet game. People will and are getting frustrated and we will just stop playing altogether. I myself haven't played in two days, it just isn't fun.
SilverScarab
11-14-2009, 11:52 AM
That's the Greatest Idea I've seen so Far.
+100000
I have seen that suggested multiple times, but no response from ngmoco.
Elkas
11-14-2009, 11:59 AM
I have seen that suggested multiple times, but no response from ngmoco.
Yeah well It's not like I check this Topic a lot, but all I've seen is whinning people with Posts way too long for me to read them, all I've readen is some crap about Nintendogs and blahblah.
I actually don't care because for me the Game is Fine now with the Premium Dog Chow, I can do Puppy Pampering, Daily Care, Tricks Workout and Strength Training, 2h30min later I do some social stuff and then Money for Career Tools.
I have the "Super Owner" Tag and haven't spent a single dime on the game, yet...
SilverScarab
11-14-2009, 12:05 PM
Yeah well It's not like I check this Topic a lot, but all I've seen is whinning people with Posts way too long for me to read them, all I've readen is some crap about Nintendogs and blahblah.
I actually don't care because for me the Game is Fine now with the Premium Dog Chow, I can do Puppy Pampering, Daily Care, Tricks Workout and Strength Training, 2h30min later I do some social stuff and then Money for Career Tools.
I have the "Super Owner" Tag and haven't spent a single dime on the game, yet...
I doubt the premium dog chow is here to stay. They do temporary promotions for a few days then go back to the way it was. At one point, we could have two bowls of food at once and regenerate two bowls at a time as well. That lasted for about 3 days.
CHANibus
11-14-2009, 01:46 PM
Anyone mind sharing their plus+ handle who has a level 3 crimefighter dog? I have several friends on TPD but none of them are on my same career path and I need a level 3 police dog to complete my next career mission. Thanks in advance. :)
Mr. Crazy
11-14-2009, 01:47 PM
Anyone mind sharing their plus+ handle who has a level 3 crimefighter dog? I have several friends on TPD but none of them are on my same career path and I need a level 3 police dog to complete my next career mission. Thanks in advance. :)
I'm have a level 3 crimefighter robot dog. My plus+ is MrCrazy.
Negamaki
11-14-2009, 01:48 PM
Anyone mind sharing their plus+ handle who has a level 3 crimefighter dog? I have several friends on TPD but none of them are on my same career path and I need a level 3 police dog to complete my next career mission. Thanks in advance. :)
Just find someone's dog on the Global Feed and you can have a playdate with them then do the mission.
Boardumb
11-14-2009, 01:53 PM
Just find someone's dog on the Global Feed and you can have a playdate with them then do the mission.
That's true, I had no idea you could play with dogs off the global feed until MJ told me about that. It's nice cause I want my doggy to have a girlfriend and most my friends have male dogs. So I can scan the global feed for a bitch for my little Arnold. Yes, that's probably the only time I've ever used the word bitch in proper context. ;)
TIMELESS
11-14-2009, 01:57 PM
That's the Greatest Idea I've seen so Far.
+100000
Than how could they make money and we earn enough puppy bucks to buy anything for the puppy.
DaveMc99
11-14-2009, 02:22 PM
This game is starting to get on the charts now
http://www.topappcharts.com/334476989/app-details-touch-pets-dogs-10-food.php
Best Chart Rankings*
#94 in Kids Games on Nov 10, 2009
#16 in Family Games on Nov 14, 2009
#13 in Adventure Games on Nov 14, 2009
#147 in Top Games on Nov 14, 2009
Elkas
11-14-2009, 03:09 PM
Anyone mind sharing their plus+ handle who has a level 3 crimefighter dog? I have several friends on TPD but none of them are on my same career path and I need a level 3 police dog to complete my next career mission. Thanks in advance. :)
I do, My Plus+ Account is Elkas.
I have Crimefighting Lv5, Rescue Lv4 and Politician Lv4 if anyone needs help :)!
kmacleod
11-14-2009, 03:18 PM
This game is starting to get on the charts now
http://www.topappcharts.com/334476989/app-details-touch-pets-dogs-10-food.php
Best Chart Rankings*
#94 in Kids Games on Nov 10, 2009
#16 in Family Games on Nov 14, 2009
#13 in Adventure Games on Nov 14, 2009
#147 in Top Games on Nov 14, 2009
Good, it deserves to!
Hopefully once they get a DLC food version released, and fix the lingering bugs (it keeps forgetting my progress every so often, and the friends list is currently broken for me), it'll do even better.
IpodLady
11-14-2009, 03:23 PM
One question......if i adopt a second dog, does he/she get their own seperate food supply or do the two dogs have to share from the one bowl?
Boardumb
11-14-2009, 03:24 PM
The dogs share the same food :(
IpodLady
11-14-2009, 03:33 PM
The dogs share the same food :(
:rolleyes: well thats dumb. Oh well, i'll stick with the one i have then. But i still cant get a romance stat to show up in the doggie stats screen. Ive got socialization maxed, and around 60 friendship, but the romance stat is not there. Ive had playdates up the gazoo with both sexes and multiple breeds but it never shows up. What am i supposed to do?
Mandakinz
11-14-2009, 03:41 PM
I've spent a total of 3 dollars on this game.
My first dog is level 8 in all career paths, I have my caretaker and social points at 1000, and trainer points at 900 some.
With the new premium food I feel like I can get a lot more done. Although another bowl would be nice (since I have 2 dogs), Ive had no problems getting my points up to these levels.
I don't know if this is a glitch or not, but since I have the free version, 1$ and 2$ versions I can earn 3X the points in a day than I could with one, which makes everything go a lot faster.
I'm just trying to make a point that you don't have to spend a lot on this, and you can still accomplish a ton in the game.
Boardumb
11-14-2009, 03:54 PM
:rolleyes: well thats dumb. Oh well, i'll stick with the one i have then. But i still cant get a romance stat to show up in the doggie stats screen. Ive got socialization maxed, and around 60 friendship, but the romance stat is not there. Ive had playdates up the gazoo with both sexes and multiple breeds but it never shows up. What am i supposed to do?
You have to have multiple playdates with a dog before the romance sparks off, at least in my experience. Just keep having playdates with friends of the opposite sex and eventually a romance should begin. Then, all the time the two dogs in love hang out adds to your romance bar. Plus, once you have a romance with a dog you can complete the "Doggy Date" stat once a day. I had a romance with Zincous's dog, our romance started right when they first saw each other during the playdate. Then, after a few minutes of lovey hearts back and forth with one another, they broke up just like that. Now I can't even have playdates with his dog right now cause they're ex-romances. Love sure is fleeting! What's your Plus+? I think I have you added, but I'm not sure. If you have a female dog I can attempt to have my Arnold woo her :)
IpodLady
11-14-2009, 04:06 PM
You have to have multiple playdates with a dog before the romance sparks off, at least in my experience. Just keep having playdates with friends of the opposite sex and eventually a romance should begin. Then, all the time the two dogs in love hang out adds to your romance bar. Plus, once you have a romance with a dog you can complete the "Doggy Date" stat once a day. I had a romance with Zincous's dog, our romance started right when they first saw each other during the playdate. Then, after a few minutes of lovey hearts back and forth with one another, they broke up just like that. Now I can't even have playdates with his dog right now cause they're ex-romances. Love sure is fleeting! What's your Plus+? I think I have you added, but I'm not sure. If you have a female dog I can attempt to have my Arnold woo her :)
Thanks, this helps. Right now am on a playdate with a dog named Oso, not sure who owns it. Both sleeping right now. I do have a female and my Plus+ is same as name here....iPodlady. Mines a Lab if breed makes any diff.
IpodLady
11-14-2009, 04:22 PM
Boardumb..........Added you to my list. Wont let me playdate tho for whatever reason.
Boardumb
11-14-2009, 04:37 PM
Boardumb..........Added you to my list. Wont let me playdate tho for whatever reason.
Yeah, I took your dog on a playdate. But I guess Arnold is still in love with Zincous dog Shep :o It said they broke up last time they played, but they're still in a romance. Gotta say I'm a little disappointed that my doggy can't be a "playa" and have multiple romances :D Oh well that would probably be too much drama anyway. But I'll keep trying to befriend Biscuit, sometimes it takes multiple tries to be friends if they dont' hit it off right away. Then if Shep can't fulfill my puppies needs, I'll come hit on your dog lol :p
IpodLady
11-14-2009, 04:42 PM
Yeah, I took your dog on a playdate. But I guess Arnold is still in love with Zincous dog Shep :o It said they broke up last time they played, but they're still in a romance. Gotta say I'm a little disappointed that my doggy can't be a "playa" and have multiple romances :D Oh well that would probably be too much drama anyway. But I'll keep trying to befriend Biscuit, sometimes it takes multiple tries to be friends if they dont' hit it off right away. Then if Shep can't fulfill my puppies needs, I'll come hit on your dog lol :p
Well..i got them on playdate finally. Both down on energy, so i fed them both and put them in the dog house top watch a movie. Social keeps going up for both dogs and neither pups gets tired. And a "manage a pup"...hey, Biscuits game if Arny is. :D
Nolan14235
11-14-2009, 11:46 PM
How do I get my dog on a career path?
How do I get my dog on a career path?
You have to raise 3k PB, then g2 the puppy store, and buy a Career Pass. There are a few to choose from.
Nolan14235
11-15-2009, 01:00 AM
You have to raise 3k PB, then g2 the puppy store, and buy a Career Pass. There are a few to choose from.
Ok thanks :D
Lokita
11-15-2009, 11:40 AM
Does anybody know how to achieve the picnic in backyard doggy date goal?
DaveMc99
11-15-2009, 11:47 AM
Still moving up the charts
http://www.topappcharts.com/334475268/app-details-touch-pets-dogs.php
Best Chart Rankings*
#9 in Kids Games on Nov 10, 2009
#4 in Family Games on Nov 15, 2009
#4 in Adventure Games on Nov 14, 2009
#29 in Top Games on Nov 15, 2009
#55 in Top Apps on Nov 15, 2009
http://www.topappcharts.com/334476989/app-details-touch-pets-dogs-10-food.php
Best Chart Rankings*
#94 in Kids Games on Nov 10, 2009
#14 in Family Games on Nov 15, 2009
#11 in Adventure Games on Nov 15, 2009
#128 in Top Games on Nov 15, 2009
http://www.topappcharts.com/334479535/app-details-touch-pets-dogs-20-food.php
Best Chart Rankings*
#126 in Kids Games on Nov 10, 2009
#49 in Family Games on Nov 15, 2009
#43 in Adventure Games on Nov 15, 2009
http://www.topappcharts.com/334480601/app-details-touch-pets-dogs-120-food.php
Best Chart Rankings*
#175 in Kids Games on Nov 10, 2009
#76 in Family Games on Nov 14, 2009
#86 in Adventure Games on Nov 14, 2009
http://www.topappcharts.com/334481814/app-details-touch-pets-dogs-400-food.php
Best Chart Rankings*
#156 in Family Games on Nov 12, 2009
#178 in Adventure Games on Nov 12, 2009
wastedyuthe
11-15-2009, 02:14 PM
There is a serious issue with this app that makes this whole situation with the food even worse! Twice in the past two days I have fed my dog a full bowl of food, and twice he has fallen asleep with food in his thought bubble while he still has plenty of energy left!
Aren't they only supposed to fall asleep when they run out of energy??? So with him out of food because he ate it all already, my time with him is cut even shorter because of this bug!
Here is a piccy to prove it (you can just see his red food bowl in his thought bubble):
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l125/wastedyuthe/photo.jpg
tjccooll
11-15-2009, 02:46 PM
Somebody pass this on to NGmoco. I love this game soo very much thank you for it being free along with eliminate they're awesome. But..... the next update should provide offline playability and whatever you do offline will upload when you log into plus+ again that's. And also, could you please make the maximum food recharge 2.0 or at least 1.5? That'd be great!
IpodLady
11-15-2009, 03:02 PM
There is a serious issue with this app that makes this whole situation with the food even worse! Twice in the past two days I have fed my dog a full bowl of food, and twice he has fallen asleep with food in his thought bubble while he still has plenty of energy left!
Aren't they only supposed to fall asleep when they run out of energy??? So with him out of food because he ate it all already, my time with him is cut even shorter because of this bug!
Here is a piccy to prove it (you can just see his red food bowl in his thought bubble):
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l125/wastedyuthe/photo.jpg
Just had this almost happen to me. She had about 1/4 energy left and the food bubble came up. WHat i did was immediately put the dog into tricks mode, where you make them sit, stand, etc. Told her to do a few tricks and gave her a treat, then brought her out of tricks mode and that got rid of the food bubble and she was fine. Hope this helps.
wastedyuthe
11-15-2009, 03:07 PM
Just had this almost happen to me. She had about 1/4 energy left and the food bubble came up. WHat i did was immediately put the dog into tricks mode, where you make them sit, stand, etc. Told her to do a few tricks and gave her a treat, then brought her out of tricks mode and that got rid of the food bubble and she was fine. Hope this helps.
Well I came out of the app, then went back in, and my pup was good to go again (for the few minutes I had before his energy really did run out of course). If it happens again, I will try your work-around, but this is an obvious bug that definitely makes the issue worse and needs fixing.
Thanks.
tjccooll
11-15-2009, 03:08 PM
idk if this was asked b4 but how do u playdate?
aleksa-94
11-15-2009, 03:10 PM
I dobt know if it was asked before but how do you have a picnic with romance dog??
IpodLady
11-15-2009, 03:12 PM
Well I came out of the app, then went back in, and my pup was good to go again (for the few minutes I had before his energy really did run out of course). If it happens again, I will try your work-around, but this is an obvious bug that definitely makes the issue worse and needs fixing.
Thanks.
Yeah, and i ran into another bug this morning, tho not one i wish to have corrected actually..:D. When i first turned it on, i went thru all the normal Caretaker training things, and was like 5 points shy of the next level. Turned it off cause she was out of energy. CAme back an hour later and the bars in the puppys daily routine had reset for the day, but not the overall stats. So i got two caretaker opportunities in one hour. And yes, i had done them the previous day if that would make a difference.
Lokita
11-15-2009, 03:19 PM
I dobt know if it was asked before but how do you have a picnic with romance dog??
lol yeah I asked that question around 4 hours ago but nobody answered.
I figured it out though. Have a playdate with your romance dog and then go to the backyard and feed both of the dogs there.
$h!tB4G!4L!F3
11-15-2009, 03:47 PM
Is it me or is it a bug? I can't find the "goals button at the bottom of the corner" for the tutorial, so I cannot pass it. I know it's at his name tag, but it isn't there. It doesn't even look similar to the picture in the tutorial? Known bug or what?
mjmoco
11-16-2009, 02:05 PM
Is it me or is it a bug? I can't find the "goals button at the bottom of the corner" for the tutorial, so I cannot pass it. I know it's at his name tag, but it isn't there. It doesn't even look similar to the picture in the tutorial? Known bug or what?
Are you playing on a customized device? There's a known issue with the daily goals when played on a jailbroken phone that has bitesms installed.
--MJ
poxichen
11-16-2009, 07:23 PM
fun game, but complicated and internet is required....I prefer offline game
Ddyracer123
11-16-2009, 07:28 PM
i dont which is more buggier, elim or touch pets. i love the bug where i can put my food dish into my dogs water bowl or vise versa. looks really cool to see two bowls turned to one:D
kmacleod
11-16-2009, 07:55 PM
i dont which is more buggier, elim or touch pets. i love the bug where i can put my food dish into my dogs water bowl or vise versa. looks really cool to see two bowls turned to one:D
This is buggier by far, and some of the bugs are critical. Lets count them:
I can't engage in playdates with anyone elses' dogs because the global feed is empty. I haven't been able to for several days now.
Whenever I click one of these empty entries in the global feed, the app crashes to the springboard without saving.
Plus+ awards for TPD not only stopped registering to the total score, but in some cases are actually subtracting from the total score.
Every 3 or 4 times I play the app, the game refuses to save my progress when I quit, leading to a lot of wasted time (although thankfully no wasted food).
If you switch internet connections while the game is loading, it will crash with the message that it cannot connect to server.
These are just the critical, serious bugs. I could make a list 5 times longer of graphics, AI, and input issues.
On the other hand, Eliminate seems reasonably stable. It hasn't crashed on me yet, and the interface is pretty solid. The gameplay itself is solid and consistent, not to mention extremely fun. The biggest problems with Eliminate are the strangely terrible matchmaking system and the 2 minute load time when you start the app, and I wouldn't classify either of them as bugs.
How do you get a doghouse?
Also, my caretaker level hasn't gone up for 2 days. Is this normal or a bug?
How do you get a doghouse?
Also, my caretaker level hasn't gone up for 2 days. Is this normal or a bug?
i think the doghouse is 250 caretaker level. it comes automatically..
as for leveling up the caretaker level..
when you look at the pet stats and the button for daily pampering and caring or something are blue, and you accomplish those tasks, the caretaker level raises immediately
TIMELESS
11-17-2009, 01:09 PM
i think the doghouse is 250 caretaker level. it comes automatically..
as for leveling up the caretaker level..
when you look at the pet stats and the button for daily pampering and caring or something are blue, and you accomplish those tasks, the caretaker level raises immediately
I have the dog house it is great. I love Touch pets just hope they do fix some stuff like in app purchases.
arnoldc
11-17-2009, 01:17 PM
I have the dog house. Does it serve any functional purpose?
snow_mani
11-17-2009, 06:02 PM
I have the dog house. Does it serve any functional purpose?
Yes. Playdate with another dog and take them into the dog house. Their socialization and friendship (if they are a friend dog) skills will automatically rise. As far as I can tell, as long as their socialization and or friendship skills are rising while in the doghouse they don't lose energy. You can also use the projector to view a slide show of events in your puppy's life. And if your dog is in a romance you will need to take the two dogs into the dog house and let them snuggle as part of the Doggy Date tasks.
I've also noticed that if you take the dogs into the dog house and shampoo them (I no longer use the sponge on the dogs - just shampoo them to 100% clean and then brush them. This uses much less energy.) they get clean much faster and easier as they don't move around as much and it's quicker to clean them.
Ok thanks.
I just had dannys95's dog Giz help me with my rescue mission. Thanks dannys95. When you need a partner for your level 4 mission, feel free to use Cubix!
reinhart_menken
11-18-2009, 06:58 AM
Hi, just started playing this game, got a newbie question, is there a way to get dog food for free, with puppy bucks?
What happens when you run out of dog food? (other than the obvious not being able to keep the puppy's energy up)
Thanks!
wastedyuthe
11-18-2009, 08:26 AM
Hi, just started playing this game, got a newbie question, is there a way to get dog food for free, with puppy bucks?
What happens when you run out of dog food? (other than the obvious not being able to keep the puppy's energy up)
Thanks!
Hi. You can't get free dog food other than waiting for it to replenish itself a bit at a time every 15 minutes. You can't buy more with puppy bucks.
The only way to get more food, other than waiting for it to replenish, is to buy the food pack apps. Although we have now had confirmation that the devs will be implementing in-app purchasing of food in an update.
To confirm, you have to wait over 2 hours to replenish a whole bowl of dog food (another 10 minutes of gameplay approx :D ).
reinhart_menken
11-18-2009, 09:10 AM
Hi. You can't get free dog food other than waiting for it to replenish itself a bit at a time every 15 minutes. You can't buy more with puppy bucks.
The only way to get more food, other than waiting for it to replenish, is to buy the food pack apps. Although we have now had confirmation that the devs will be implementing in-app purchasing of food in an update.
To confirm, you have to wait over 2 hours to replenish a whole bowl of dog food (another 10 minutes of gameplay approx :D ).
Ah okay, thanks for the reply. Well, as long as there are methods to get free dog food then I'm happy. I don't plan to play this game more than....say 30 minutes per day, spread throughout the day intermittently :p Is there a max free dog food limit?
wastedyuthe
11-18-2009, 09:33 AM
Is there a max free dog food limit?
Yeah- forgot to mention- the maximum free food you can have is one full bowl, no more.
reinhart_menken
11-18-2009, 09:59 AM
Yeah- forgot to mention- the maximum free food you can have is one full bowl, no more.
No worries. Argh, well, better than nothing I guess. I wish it were at least 2 bowls per day though =/
wastedyuthe
11-18-2009, 11:20 AM
No worries. Argh, well, better than nothing I guess. I wish it were at least 2 bowls per day though =/
Yeah- it was at one stage, which made a lot of people happy. Then they reduced it to one bowl again. Now they changed it to "premium" food to make it last longer (a typical play period for a full bowl lasted 11 minutes compared to 6).
The problem is, they keep changing it. They can quite easily put the food back to the non-premium and make it last 6 minutes again. We don't know where we stand from one day to the next.
Either way, this kind of 'relaxing' game doesn't work under such strict time limits imo, and I am not playing it anymore along with my daughter. But each to their own opinion.
MrSnap
11-18-2009, 12:06 PM
This is a good game, too bad it doesn't work without an internet connection though. My son's iPhone (original 4GB) doesn't have any type of connection as the base band is fried (killing the wifi) and of course he doesn't have an iPhone data plan :P
weisome
11-18-2009, 04:24 PM
New tweet one hour ago from ngmoco:
Woof! RT @TouchPetsDogs: Download EPW Taztan, get 5 free bowls of food. Follow the banner in Touch Pets for instructions.
Yay!! :D
arnoldc
11-18-2009, 06:00 PM
I am sucker for food so I install new epic pet war taztan in exchange of 5 bowls of fake dog food.
how do we go about finding other players with a specific skill
i.e. i need a level 3 + scientist for my dogs next level.. where do i go to find that information?
snow_mani
11-18-2009, 10:50 PM
how do we go about finding other players with a specific skill
i.e. i need a level 3 + scientist for my dogs next level.. where do i go to find that information?
If you none of your Plus+ friends meet the requirements the program will select someone from the public feed for you who meets the requirements. Just goto the career headquarters, open that career step and click on the button next to the requirement. You will get a couple of options and can choose to have a puppy from the public feed who meets the requirements. It's actually a nice way to introduce your puppy to new puppy's and a nice way to add more people as friends in Plus+.
I'd also say add me as a friend but neither of my two dogs are striving for a career in science. Of course you can still add me if you like. :) Username is SnowMani.
JonathanJ
11-19-2009, 12:37 AM
How do I turn off push notifications from this game? Twice now during Rolando a push notification popped up telling me my dog had a play date and it caused the game to crash. Once it even caused me to lose a checkpoint I had worked very hard to get...
ImNoSuperMan
11-19-2009, 12:41 AM
Ngmoco twitter..
touch pets # 1 on the app store ! http://yfrog.com/3lrydp (via @matthewjroberts)
:eek::eek:
kmacleod
11-19-2009, 12:51 AM
Ngmoco twitter..
touch pets # 1 on the app store ! http://yfrog.com/3lrydp (via @matthewjroberts)
:eek::eek:
Great to hear it! I hope this is translating into sales :D
kmacleod
11-19-2009, 12:55 AM
How do I turn off push notifications from this game? Twice now during Rolando a push notification popped up telling me my dog had a play date and it caused the game to crash. Once it even caused me to lose a checkpoint I had worked very hard to get...
You can customize push notifications from the Settings application in the iPhone, and you can also do it from within the game itself, although the method of doing it is convoluted.
Rather than being in the "Options" menu where it should be, you have to start the game, switch to the global feed, click on your own name under "Friends With Touch Pets", and from there you can scroll down to "Set Push Settings"
fructose
11-19-2009, 10:41 PM
Is there any way to change a dog's name? Cause my dog's name is "dog" somehow, and I wanna change it
IpodLady
11-19-2009, 11:31 PM
Is there any way to change a dog's name? Cause my dog's name is "dog" somehow, and I wanna change it
LOL..Thats funny. But sorry, dont think there is a way. Ya might have to start a new game or adopt a second dog.
fructose
11-19-2009, 11:35 PM
LOL..Thats funny. But sorry, dont think there is a way. Ya might have to start a new game or adopt a second dog.
Nevermind, I guess it was a glitch or something... I closed the app and reopened it and the dog was gone. But it was a second dog, not my first, didn't know how I got it, I just... had it.
But now I'm faced with another problem! On my 3GS whenever I try to go into the "Puppy Master" section, my iPhone crashes. I've never successfully went into the section without it crashing on me. Help!
IpodLady
11-19-2009, 11:45 PM
Nevermind, I guess it was a glitch or something... I closed the app and reopened it and the dog was gone. But it was a second dog, not my first, didn't know how I got it, I just... had it.
But now I'm faced with another problem! On my 3GS whenever I try to go into the "Puppy Master" section, my iPhone crashes. I've never successfully went into the section without it crashing on me. Help!
Well i dont have a 3GS, i'm on the ipod. Could try going into your settings of the iphone and set/unset something that may be screwing with your connection. Or try rebooting your phone. Those are two simple solutions. If neither help, try taking the game off your iphone..(NOT from iTunes, just delete from the phone.) and place it back onto your phone when you sync. May be just some type of glitch and doing that would help. I had a similar problem with another game and the delete/ then sync thing cured it.
arnoldc
11-20-2009, 07:04 PM
I think Ngmoco is running some promo (for being top#1 free app download) as food replenish is becoming very quick since yesterday. It takes like 15 minutes to refill one bowl. This is almost giving you unlimited game play. I am surprised no one is mentioning it yet. May be everyone is too busy playing the game :)
DaveMc99
11-20-2009, 07:09 PM
People here don't like it that much but it is still moving up the charts.
http://www.topappcharts.com/334476989/app-details-touch-pets-dogs-10-food.php
Best Chart Rankings*
#94 in Kids Games on Nov 10, 2009
#6 in Family Games on Nov 20, 2009
#7 in Adventure Games on Nov 20, 2009
#36 in Top Games on Nov 20, 2009
#64 in Top Apps on Nov 20, 2009
http://www.topappcharts.com/334479535/app-details-touch-pets-dogs-20-food.php
Best Chart Rankings*
#126 in Kids Games on Nov 10, 2009
#21 in Family Games on Nov 20, 2009
#21 in Adventure Games on Nov 20, 2009
#176 in Top Games on Nov 20, 2009
Boardumb
11-20-2009, 07:43 PM
I think Ngmoco is running some promo (for being top#1 free app download) as food replenish is becoming very quick since yesterday. It takes like 15 minutes to refill one bowl. This is almost giving you unlimited game play. I am surprised no one is mentioning it yet. May be everyone is too busy playing the game :)
Well, I suppose I wouldn't notice such a promotion since I decided to support the developers by buying the food packs. How do they repay me? By not allowing me to have regenerating food. Yay.
snow_mani
11-20-2009, 08:03 PM
I think Ngmoco is running some promo (for being top#1 free app download) as food replenish is becoming very quick since yesterday. It takes like 15 minutes to refill one bowl. This is almost giving you unlimited game play. I am surprised no one is mentioning it yet. May be everyone is too busy playing the game :)
Well, I suppose I wouldn't notice such a promotion since I decided to support the developers by buying the food packs. How do they repay me? By not allowing me to have regenerating food. Yay.
Yep me too. So if bowls are now regenerating faster I wouldn't know about it either.
arnoldc
11-20-2009, 08:22 PM
Interesting. I thought for those who have purhcased the dog food, you will still get one free bowl. It should be always plus one refillable bowl.
I just checked the food rate. It is 0.1 per 90 seconds so indeed one filled bowl per 15 minutes.
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