View Full Version : Flick Baseball by Freeverse
salsamd
01-06-2009, 11:12 PM
Update : April 28 '10
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Coming out on May 3rd 2010
http://toucharcade.com/2010/04/28/exclusive-flick-baseball-preview-freeverses-baseball-game-is-almost-here/
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Flick Baseball is a full 3D baseball game that looks and plays a lot like a fleshed out version of Com2Us's Homerun Battle 3D [$4.99 / Free] with 3D players, tilt to aim batting, and some extra features such as being able to control your runners and where your outfielders throw the ball. Since Homerun Battle 3D is still one of my favorite iPhone games, I'm really happy with how Freeverse seems to have captured a very similar batting mechanic that works extremely well.
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See: Developer's remarks (http://forums.toucharcade.com/search.php?searchid=156146)
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"Flick Sports Baseball will be the newest entry in the Flick Sports series when it comes out sometime in February. Like the other FS games, this will focus mainly on the mechanics of the sport in question--batting and pitching, in this case. The game's producer mentioned that those controls are still under development, but will probably involve a finger-swipe mechanic to control batting.
FS Baseball doesn't have the MLB license, but you will be able to customize your league's teams, as well as individual players. Smith demoed this for us very quickly, applying pinstripes and various jersey colors to his player with a touchable palette.
The game will also feature multiple stadiums, as well as night and day play. Freeverse isn't sure whether a full season mode will make it into the game yet. -STP (http://www.slidetoplay.com/story/four-new-freeverse-games-coming-up)"
dannys95
01-06-2009, 11:12 PM
Macworld Preview
YouTube: video (http://youtube.com/watch?v=M7PF12ooCys)
hehe; nice!! u beat arn.
THEDeliriumTrigger
01-06-2009, 11:13 PM
Looks pretty awesome! Yay for more real sport titles!
noah21c
01-06-2009, 11:14 PM
Sweet! Thanks dude.
salsamd
01-06-2009, 11:55 PM
I hope it has the gameplay of Baseball Superstars (http://forums.toucharcade.com/showthread.php?threadid=2554), but with iphone quality graphics and intuitive mechanics...
dcescott
01-06-2009, 11:58 PM
Freeverse makes great games. Have been a fan since the 90s. First thing that popped in my mind, other than purchasing the app, "It Takes Two" by Rob Base and DJ EZ Rock, bustin' the running man. booom, yeah ---wah! yeah ---wah! booom, yeah ---wah! , yeah ---wah!
STP_Steve
01-07-2009, 01:19 AM
YouTube: video (http://youtube.com/watch?v=M7PF12ooCys)
"Flick Sports Baseball will be the newest entry in the Flick Sports series when it comes out sometime in February. Like the other FS games, this will focus mainly on the mechanics of the sport in question--batting and pitching, in this case. The game's producer mentioned that those controls are still under development, but will probably involve a finger-swipe mechanic to control batting.
FS Baseball doesn't have the MLB license, but you will be able to customize your league's teams, as well as individual players. Smith demoed this for us very quickly, applying pinstripes and various jersey colors to his player with a touchable palette.
The game will also feature multiple stadiums, as well as night and day play. Freeverse isn't sure whether a full season mode will make it into the game yet. -STP (http://www.slidetoplay.com/story/four-new-freeverse-games-coming-up)"
LOL... text from me and video from Arn/Blake! I like it. We'll have video up soon too, as soon as I have a chance to edit it.
HandheldGames
01-07-2009, 01:53 AM
Thanks so much for the video. It shows what the competition is up to. Great to know where we stand!! :cool:
Thx!
HHG
salsamd
01-07-2009, 01:58 AM
Thanks so much for the video. It shows what the competition is up to. Great to know where we stand!! :cool:
Thx!
HHG
Hmmm, if you guys are also working on a baseball game that would be great!:D
Raptor25
01-07-2009, 03:40 AM
has there been any word on an official game? i welcome all the unoffiical ones and that one looks cool and i imagine ill buy it, but i really want an official one too heh.
brewstermax
01-07-2009, 06:57 AM
:(. Maybe I'm the only one disappointed, but I wanted Flick Hunting. iHunt is horrible, but I'd like to see something similar, but made better.
ITrocks
01-07-2009, 07:24 AM
has there been any word on an official game? i welcome all the unoffiical ones and that one looks cool and i imagine ill buy it, but i really want an official one too heh.
Agreed! I want a game from EA sports. It'd probably be hard to do without a pasted on control pad like Baseball Superstars though. But that game really is an amazing and addictive game :)
On the other hand, the flick sports franchise looks promising, with flick baseball and i've heard rumours of flick football. Hopes up that the graphics are good and that they implement a system similar to Baseball Superstars 2009!
adbjmb
01-07-2009, 08:49 AM
M7PF12ooCys
"Flick Sports Baseball will be the newest entry in the Flick Sports series when it comes out sometime in February. Like the other FS games, this will focus mainly on the mechanics of the sport in question--batting and pitching, in this case. The game's producer mentioned that those controls are still under development, but will probably involve a finger-swipe mechanic to control batting.
FS Baseball doesn't have the MLB license, but you will be able to customize your league's teams, as well as individual players. Smith demoed this for us very quickly, applying pinstripes and various jersey colors to his player with a touchable palette.
The game will also feature multiple stadiums, as well as night and day play. Freeverse isn't sure whether a full season mode will make it into the game yet. -STP (http://www.slidetoplay.com/story/four-new-freeverse-games-coming-up)"
I like the sound of that. I just hope they make it a real simulation with nine full innings, a season and playoffs etc. Looking at the video the graphics don't look like they will be bad. By the way to the touch tennis team, I hope you guys do make a baseball sim too. Looking at touch tennis 09 the graphics look great. And competition is what makes America great.
HandheldGames
01-07-2009, 02:40 PM
Thanks for the added details! It really sounds like Freeverse is focusing on Batting/Pitching and not the entire game of baseball. A quick game of baseball that can be played in 3-5 minutes perhaps?
From personal experience, building a state machine to deal with all the nuances of where to throw the ball, run down, etc... based on how the bases are loaded and where every fielder / runner and the ball currently resides is no cup of tea and is a many month process to get tuned and working.
AND if you go after this route... The resident iPhone baseball experts will never be happy. Will compare your product to EA Sports and 2K Sports... Will always want more... Out of a game that needs to be built on a budget that is less than 5% of what it would cost to develop on a DS/PSP.
Thx!
HHG
rootbeersoup
01-07-2009, 02:43 PM
I don't think any game will get an official MLB license within the next few years, since there are so many legal battles over them with the consoles.
salsamd
01-07-2009, 02:58 PM
Thanks for the added details! It really sounds like Freeverse is focusing on Batting/Pitching and not the entire game of baseball. A quick game of baseball that can be played in 3-5 minutes perhaps?
From personal experience, building a state machine to deal with all the nuances of where to throw the ball, run down, etc... based on how the bases are loaded and where every fielder / runner and the ball currently resides is no cup of tea and is a many month process to get tuned and working.
AND if you go after this route... The resident iPhone baseball experts will never be happy. Will compare your product to EA Sports and 2K Sports... Will always want more... Out of a game that needs to be built on a budget that is less than 5% of what it would cost to develop on a DS/PSP.
Thx!
HHG
That said, a lot of users appear happy with the gameplay of Baseball Superstars, notwithstanding the limitation of its graphics. As such, if Freeverse provides a game with comparable gameplay, but iphone quality visuals, and intuitive mechanics, I suspect they will do rather well, despite inevitable critics...
HandheldGames
01-07-2009, 03:01 PM
I don't think any game will get an official MLB license within the next few years, since there are so many legal battles over them with the consoles.
The sheer problem in the license is the up front cost of the MLB / MLBPA to be incurred and recouped on a per unit basis by the publisher. There are so many fees associated with teams, player names, likenesses, etc... IMO, it's nothing to deal with legalities, its all about cost and the publishers ability to pay for the license fees and dev cost and their chance to break even or perhaps make a profit.
Thx!
HHG
HandheldGames
01-07-2009, 03:07 PM
That said, a lot of users appear happy with the gameplay of Baseball Superstars, notwithstanding the limitation of its graphics. As such, if Freeverse provides a game with comparable gameplay, but iphone quality visuals, and intuitive mechanics, I suspect they will do rather well, despite inevitable critics...
From what the video shows, they have a stadium, players up and running around the bases, others at their position, not much more. No hint at AI.. Etc. and no talk from the producer about fielding - which implies AI and a true game of baseball. If its set to release in Feb.. There is a lot of work ahead of them.
Baseball Superstars, has been in development since 2004 and was initially released in 2005. Its been tweaked and polished many times since that date so I don't anticipate seeing anything close to that polish level.
Thx!
HHG
rootbeersoup
01-07-2009, 03:43 PM
The sheer problem in the license is the up front cost of the MLB / MLBPA to be incurred and recouped on a per unit basis by the publisher. There are so many fees associated with teams, player names, likenesses, etc... IMO, it's nothing to deal with legalities, its all about cost and the publishers ability to pay for the license fees and dev cost and their chance to break even or perhaps make a profit.
Thx!
HHG
Well yes, but there are legal issues as well. 2K Sports is now the only publisher who can make 3rd party MLB games (meaning first party games are still ok, like Sony with MLB: The Show) So unless Apple makes their own, we won't see one on the iPhone
Now of course, there may be loopholes, because I don't know which systems apply, as it may not be a broadsweeping thing for all video games. So who knows. I think Craig might be able to give us some details on that since EA was a victim in the ruling (which totally sucks since they had the best games)
HandheldGames
01-07-2009, 06:14 PM
Well yes, but there are legal issues as well. 2K Sports is now the only publisher who can make 3rd party MLB games (meaning first party games are still ok, like Sony with MLB: The Show) So unless Apple makes their own, we won't see one on the iPhone
Now of course, there may be loopholes, because I don't know which systems apply, as it may not be a broadsweeping thing for all video games. So who knows. I think Craig might be able to give us some details on that since EA was a victim in the ruling (which totally sucks since they had the best games)
In terms of baseball - EA got what they deserved. Since they have thje exclusive on NFL - which IMO should NEVER have happened. 2K taking down baseball is justice? Well - sort of - but the exclusivity of a sports license is really unnecessary and keeps great games from the market. While we all like madden... **COUGH** **COUGH** In many ways, 2K's football game was superior.
Back to the license issue... The scope would depend on the platforms specified in their licensing agreement. Since, at the time it was written, the world in terms of platforms have changed, there may be opportunity. Not just for apple - but anyone with the $$$. When that agreement was crafted, who knew digital distribution on iTunes would be where it is!
Guess that enabled me to grab a great license or two as well ;-)
Thx!
HHG
rootbeersoup
01-07-2009, 09:20 PM
In terms of baseball - EA got what they deserved.
WHY??? Their game was superior to anything else anyone made... 2K makes bug-filled games and 989sports just wasn't on par to EA
There is a whole online community of people who still play MVP 2005. I even still play it to this day because it's still a fun game (I also don't need current rosters since my season mode is so far ahead every player is a no-name anyway)
It's still one of the best baseball games ever made. The game is STILL popular, 4 years later. Tell me one sports game that is THAT popular. How did they "get what they deserve"????
Are you another bitter dev jealous of their success? Jesus christ people... Yeah it's unfair that they have the NFL license, I agree, since competition would help everyone and the whole gaming community would benefit from it if it didn't exist (personally I don't like Madden very much, but that may be that I just flat out suck at any "realistic" game, which I'm assuming they aim for)
salsamd
01-08-2009, 03:32 AM
Added another video. See First post (http://forums.toucharcade.com/showpost.php?p=52120&postcount=1).
salsamd
01-08-2009, 11:11 AM
My guess is that potential customers will align themselves more strongly with game mechanics than with licenses. At least one will certainly not have the same degree of protests as with Real Football 2009.
salsamd
01-08-2009, 01:08 PM
Interestingly, Ian Smith, founder of Freeverse says in the STP video (http://forums.toucharcade.com/showpost.php?p=52120&postcount=1)that one will have "all sorts of editing with stats, team logos, etc". Now this of course could merely mean that one can design random team logos, rather than use known MLB logos...
rootbeersoup
01-08-2009, 01:19 PM
Wow, why no pitching mound?
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HandheldGames
01-08-2009, 01:30 PM
WHY??? Their game was superior to anything else anyone made... 2K makes bug-filled games and 989sports just wasn't on par to EA
There is a whole online community of people who still play MVP 2005. I even still play it to this day because it's still a fun game (I also don't need current rosters since my season mode is so far ahead every player is a no-name anyway)
It's still one of the best baseball games ever made. The game is STILL popular, 4 years later. Tell me one sports game that is THAT popular. How did they "get what they deserve"????
Are you another bitter dev jealous of their success? Jesus christ people... Yeah it's unfair that they have the NFL license, I agree, since competition would help everyone and the whole gaming community would benefit from it if it didn't exist (personally I don't like Madden very much, but that may be that I just flat out suck at any "realistic" game, which I'm assuming they aim for)
When EA locked up NFL and shut down true industry competition and innovation in the sports arena... It's only fitting they did not have the opportunity to also lock up baseball.
I'm not bitter. I like EA, Activision, Midway, etc for what each of the companies has brought to the table. Not even close. What I don't like is the universal lock down of Sports IP to a single publisher who may or may not bring titles to a platform they own the rights to. Add to that the lock out of great game play, like you noted with MVP 2005.
Again - my reference to "They got what they deserved" directly relates to their lock down on NFL - preventing anyone else from bringing product to market. They just got some of their own medicine. ;-)
Thx!
HHG
rootbeersoup
01-08-2009, 02:01 PM
When EA locked up NFL and shut down true industry competition and innovation in the sports arena... It's only fitting they did not have the opportunity to also lock up baseball.
I'm not bitter. I like EA, Activision, Midway, etc for what each of the companies has brought to the table. Not even close. What I don't like is the universal lock down of Sports IP to a single publisher who may or may not bring titles to a platform they own the rights to. Add to that the lock out of great game play, like you noted with MVP 2005.
Again - my reference to "They got what they deserved" directly relates to their lock down on NFL - preventing anyone else from bringing product to market. They just got some of their own medicine. ;-)
Thx!
HHG
I will agree that it does suck that any one publisher can get exclusive rights to making 3rd party games... I don't quite understand the incentive behind making those deals from a league/players association standpoint. I wouldn't imagine they are demanding more money from the publisher because then the publisher would back down... Although maybe they are and the publisher takes the deal assuming they will sell massive amounts of games that they'd make more money anyway... Who knows
salsamd
01-08-2009, 02:16 PM
Notably absent is an option to select player skin color/ethnicity. :(
Hopefully, there are more pages of options...
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HandheldGames
01-08-2009, 02:57 PM
Notably absent is an option to select player skin color. :(
Hopefully, there are more pages of options...
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Great catch on the missing pitching mound and skin color. Something I believe we hit on many of our legacy products. ;-) And regarding their comment saying this is the best sports animation on the iPhone. ** Cough ** **Cough ** Tennis anyone? :-P
Thx!
HHG
STP_Steve
01-08-2009, 03:00 PM
Notably absent is an option to select player skin color. :(
Hopefully, there are more pages of options...
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The game's still a month or so away, so there's plenty of time to write into Freeverse and make sure that stuff gets in there :)
salsamd
01-08-2009, 03:05 PM
Great catch on the missing pitching mound and skin color. Something I believe we hit on many of our legacy products. ;-)
Thx!
HHG
Well, I certainly hope HHG will be "stepping up to the plate", and capitalizing on their experience here to kick some of those legacy titles into 21th century iphone quality graphics and gameplay! That's what I'm talking about! Competiton rules!
salsamd
01-08-2009, 03:07 PM
And regarding their comment saying this is the best sports animation on the iPhone. ** Cough ** **Cough ** Tennis anyone? :-P
Thx!
HHG
Every gorilla pounds its chest when it can...;)
salsamd
01-08-2009, 04:27 PM
From: support@freeverse.com
Subject: [FV #GHV-54452-716]: re: FLick Baseball
Date: January 8, 2009 1:23:46 PM PST
To: salsa_md
Reply-To: support@freeverse.com
Hi Marc,
These are great suggestions, I will forward this to our development team for consideration.
Regards,
Paul
Hi,
Really excited about the upcoming FLick Baseball. Make sure you guys
add a pitching mound and option to select player skin color/ethnicity.
Thanks!
salsamd
01-08-2009, 07:45 PM
"The game will also feature multiple stadiums, as well as night and day play. Freeverse isn't sure whether a full season mode will make it into the game yet."
Seems like one will also at least have:
1. A Homerun Derby, with farthest homerun distance calculated.
2. Playofffs
See images below
Click images to enlarge
salsamd
01-08-2009, 09:46 PM
I am also looking forward to improved character animations compare to Flick Bowling and Motochaser. The head movement in those games seemed like the characters either had no cervical musculature support, or were tripping on drugs.;)
HandheldGames
01-08-2009, 10:26 PM
I am also looking forward to improved character animations compare to Flick Bowling and Motochaser. The head movement in those games seemed like the characters either had no cervical musculature support, or were tripping on drugs.;)
Have to agree with ya Salsa MD 100%! Great to see you are a baseball fan.
Thx!
HHG
rootbeersoup
01-08-2009, 11:16 PM
Salsa, I see you're from SF, you a Giants fan?
salsamd
01-09-2009, 12:29 PM
Salsa, I see you're from SF, you a Giants fan?
Raised in NYC. Still a Yankee fan...
rootbeersoup
01-09-2009, 04:59 PM
Raised in NYC. Still a Yankee fan...
Well I bet you are enjoying this offseason...
salsamd
01-12-2009, 02:49 PM
"Don't worry, we are going to exhaust all possible options for the game. We want to make the best baseball game out there." -Hippieman
Hi,
Really excited about the upcoming FLick Baseball. Make sure you guys
add a pitching mound and option to select player skin color/ethnicity.
Thanks!
Click to enlarge:
Hippieman
01-12-2009, 05:50 PM
Wow this gets around fast!
I love seeing the enthusiasm.
What we had on hand at Macworld (many many many miles away from our desks) was just a rough build on our CEO's Phone. Nothing is final so far (except that the Freeverse team will have those spiffy Yellow uniforms).
There was a lot missing, such as shadows, most of the audio and well, a lot.
I'd love to heard some feedback on this: We are very interested in implemented full seasons. But with each game taking 15 mins or so (a very short estimate) and 162 games, that's 40+ hours to finish 1 season. Would you feel cheated to know that if you only invest 20 hours into the game you'll never finish a season?
Or would you feel more cheated to have seasons removed/shortened?
Either way, believe me we are putting our full dev efforts into Flick Baseball. Also, as for MBL License, we went down that road but it was not right for us. I cannot get into the details, but we decided it would not help the game.
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dannys95
01-12-2009, 05:53 PM
Wow this gets around fast!
I love seeing the enthusiasm.
What we had on hand at Macworld (many many many miles away from our desks) was just a rough build on our CEO's Phone. Nothing is final so far (except that the Freeverse team will have those spiffy Yellow uniforms).
There was a lot missing, such as shadows, most of the audio and well, a lot.
I'd love to heard some feedback on this: We are very interested in implemented full seasons. But with each game taking 15 mins or so (a very short estimate) and 162 games, that's 40+ hours to finish 1 season. Would you feel cheated to know that if you only invest 20 hours into the game you'll never finish a season?
Or would you feel more cheated to have seasons removed/shortened?
Either way, believe me we are putting our full dev efforts into Flick Baseball. Also, as for MBL License, we went down that road but it was not right for us. I cannot get into the details, but we decided it would not help the game.
please leave season; short or not. let me know if u need a beta tester. i let u know though twitter dm's. also; when will slotz racer come out?
p.s: lol! can u post a pic of one of u dressed in those yellow uniforms? :)
Zwilnik
01-12-2009, 05:58 PM
. also; when will slotz racer come out?
:)
I uploaded the final GM of SlotZ Racer based on testing feedback today, so once it's gone through the final test pass it'll be submitted to the App Store :)
salsamd
01-12-2009, 05:59 PM
Wow this gets around fast!
There was a lot missing, such as shadows, most of the audio and well, a lot.
I'd love to heard some feedback on this: We are very interested in implemented full seasons. But with each game taking 15 mins or so (a very short estimate) and 162 games, that's 40+ hours to finish 1 season. Would you feel cheated to know that if you only invest 20 hours into the game you'll never finish a season?
Or would you feel more cheated to have seasons removed/shortened?
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Definitely do NOT remove seasons. If it takes 40+ hours of smooth, well polished gameplay to finish a season, then so be it...as long as the game has a good save feature. Have a look at the some of the user responses to Gamevil's Baseball Superstars. (http://forums.toucharcade.com/showthread.php?t=2554)
Raptor25
01-12-2009, 06:40 PM
Baseball superstars has a method you might be interested in. You can choose to play the last 3 innings, last 6 innings, or the entire game, with the other innings simmed depending on what you choose.
Offering options like a 32, 64, or 162 game season would also be fine.
In any case, there has to be some kind of season mode. I don't know what your plans are, but of course a homerun derby mode has always been used as a quickplay option.
If you want a baseball fanatic's opinions I'd love to test ;)
rootbeersoup
01-12-2009, 06:49 PM
+1 for seasons
But if it's not genuine MLB licenses, then make shorter seasons available. But keep 162 as well please!!
salsamd
01-12-2009, 06:59 PM
I don't know what your plans are, but of course a homerun derby mode has always been used as a quickplay option.
See here (http://forums.toucharcade.com/showpost.php?p=53820&postcount=34).
STP_Steve
01-12-2009, 07:09 PM
"The game will also feature multiple stadiums, as well as night and day play. Freeverse isn't sure whether a full season mode will make it into the game yet."
Seems like one will also at least have:
1. A Homerun Derby, with farthest homerun distance calculated.
2. Playofffs
See images below
Click images to enlarge
Yes, I was told that a Homerun Derby mode was in the offing, but Freeverse was concerned that MLB owns the trademark for "Homerun Derby," so it may be called something else.
dannys95
01-12-2009, 08:35 PM
I uploaded the final GM of SlotZ Racer based on testing feedback today, so once it's gone through the final test pass it'll be submitted to the App Store :)
k and what is the planned price? :)
Zwilnik
01-12-2009, 08:38 PM
k and what is the planned price? :)
That would be telling (and make our marketing guy cry because we messed with all his plans) but I'd recommend buying it very quickly when it comes out ;)
dannys95
01-12-2009, 08:39 PM
That would be telling (and make our marketing guy cry because we messed with all his plans) but I'd recommend buying it very quickly when it comes out ;)
lol! fair enough. i know this is unlikely; but would u trade a promo code for a wallpaper? lol. just wondering
Zwilnik
01-12-2009, 08:43 PM
lol! fair enough. i know this is unlikely; but would u trade a promo code for a wallpaper? lol. just wondering
You'll need to talk to Hippieman or someone based at the Freeverse office for that. As they're our publishers they get all the spiffy promo codes :)
dannys95
01-12-2009, 08:45 PM
You'll need to talk to Hippieman or someone based at the Freeverse office for that. As they're our publishers they get all the spiffy promo codes :)
can i just dm from twitter? who has that freeverse account anyway?
salsamd
01-12-2009, 08:46 PM
That would be telling (and make our marketing guy cry because we messed with all his plans) but I'd recommend buying it very quickly when it comes out ;)
Recommendation: take the time to bring a truly polished baseball game, tantamount to Gameloft's Real Football (Soccer), value it at $9.99 and charge $4.99-$7.99 at its app debut. It will sell like hotcakes.
Nothing less than 4/5 wrt to the following will do:D:
• Gameplay
• Polish/Aesthetics
• Controls
• Engineering (bugs)
Flunkie
01-12-2009, 08:53 PM
I want this to be a great game. If you spend more time polishing and adding features, I'll buy it at a higher price no doubt. Season Mode is a MUST.. maybe even franchise.
dannys95
01-12-2009, 08:54 PM
p.s; when i asked about the price i meant about the price on slotz racer not baseball.
Galley
01-12-2009, 11:23 PM
Options for 1/8 (20), 1/4 (40), 1/2 (80) and full (162) seasons would be nice.
salsamd
01-13-2009, 01:34 PM
Today 08:40:35
hippieman
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Re: Flick Baseball
"We are going for the very heroic 1920s type players, but keeping the stadiums modern. So it'll have a very iconic classic feel, but not feel old."
rootbeersoup
01-13-2009, 07:56 PM
Today 08:40:35
hippieman
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Posts: 1218
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Re: Flick Baseball
"We are going for the very heroic 1920s type players, but keeping the stadiums modern. So it'll have a very iconic classic feel, but not feel old."
That is awesome!! Hopefully they'll have a Rogers Hornsby and Honus Wagner type players. That would be my double play combo :cool:
HandheldGames
01-13-2009, 08:55 PM
Dont wan't to be a nay-sayer folks... But.... IF what they showed at MWE was the current state of the product.... I wouldn't count on a die-hard baseball game. I'd say its something more like a quick game of bowling ;-) with a few game modes. Baseball A/I does not grow on trees and takes time to develop and mature. There are so many circumstances to code for.... Man on 1st, Man on 3rd, fly to right field, where to throw the ball! Third base is decides to run back to 3rd but 1st base and the base runner are going full steam. DOH! Where is SS or 2nd. Whose covering 2nd! Then again - whose covering 1st? Is there a pickle? HAHAA!!
Each and every circumstance needs to be accounted for. I've written the AI and it takes a looooong time to get it right... And to code for errors, over throws, and the "Human" factor"..
A real baseball game of the caliber your talking about has a development cycle of 7-9 months inclusing a full test cycle of 2 months of a multi-man team....
Along those lines, what was shown would be considered a "prototype" and not even a 1st playable. Which would mean about a month into development at most considering their technology and pipeline.
Thx!
HHG
rootbeersoup
01-13-2009, 09:01 PM
Dont wan't to be a nay-sayer folks... But.... IF what they showed at MWE was the current state of the product.... I wouldn't count on a die-hard baseball game. I'd say its something more like a quick game of bowling ;-) with a few game modes. Baseball A/I does not grow on trees and takes time to develop and mature. There are so many circumstances to code for.... Man on 1st, Man on 3rd, fly to right field, where to throw the ball! Third base is decides to run back to 3rd but 1st base and the base runner are going full steam. DOH! Where is SS or 2nd. Whose covering 2nd! Then again - whose covering 1st? Is there a pickle? HAHAA!!
Each and every circumstance needs to be accounted for. I've written the AI and it takes a looooong time to get it right... And to code for errors, over throws, and the "Human" factor"..
A real baseball game of the caliber your talking about has a development cycle of 7-9 months inclusing a full test cycle of 2 months of a multi-man team....
Along those lines, what was shown would be considered a "prototype" and not even a 1st playable. Which would mean about a month into development at most considering their technology and pipeline.
Thx!
HHG
I don't expect a full fledged console-esque baseball game. And honestly, I don't really want one for the iPhone.
salsamd
01-13-2009, 09:03 PM
Dont wan't to be a nay-sayer folks... But.... IF what they showed at MWE was the current state of the product.... I wouldn't count on a die-hard baseball game. I'd say its something more like a quick game of bowling ;-) with a few game modes. Baseball A/I does not grow on trees and takes time to develop and mature. There are so many circumstances to code for.... Man on 1st, Man on 3rd, fly to right field, where to throw the ball! Third base is decides to run back to 3rd but 1st base and the base runner are going full steam. DOH! Where is SS or 2nd. Whose covering 2nd! Then again - whose covering 1st? Is there a pickle? HAHAA!!
Each and every circumstance needs to be accounted for. I've written the AI and it takes a looooong time to get it right... And to code for errors, over throws, and the "Human" factor"..
A real baseball game of the caliber your talking about has a development cycle of 7-9 months inclusing a full test cycle of 2 months of a multi-man team....
Along those lines, what was shown would be considered a "prototype" and not even a 1st playable. Which would mean about a month into development at most considering their technology and pipeline.
Thx!
HHG
From the developer, See here (http://forums.toucharcade.com/showpost.php?p=57374&postcount=41):
"What we had on hand at Macworld (many many many miles away from our desks) was just a rough build on our CEO's Phone. Nothing is final so far (except that the Freeverse team will have those spiffy Yellow uniforms).
There was a lot missing, such as shadows, most of the audio and well, a lot. "
HandheldGames
01-13-2009, 09:04 PM
I don't expect a full fledged console-esque baseball game. And honestly, I don't really want one for the iPhone.
Guess I was reading into Salsa's email a bit much! Then again - everyone has a take!
Thx!
HHG
salsamd
01-13-2009, 09:07 PM
Baseball A/I does not grow on trees and takes time to develop and mature. There are so many circumstances to code for.... Man on 1st, Man on 3rd, fly to right field, where to throw the ball! Third base is decides to run back to 3rd but 1st base and the base runner are going full steam. DOH! Where is SS or 2nd. Whose covering 2nd! Then again - whose covering 1st? Is there a pickle? HAHAA!!
Each and every circumstance needs to be accounted for. I've written the AI and it takes a looooong time to get it right... And to code for errors, over throws, and the "Human" factor"..
A real baseball game of the caliber your talking about has a development cycle of 7-9 months inclusing a full test cycle of 2 months of a multi-man team....
Thx!
HHG
So, when do we get to see a preview of HHG's iphone/IPT baseball title??:D
salsamd
01-13-2009, 09:11 PM
I don't expect a full fledged console-esque baseball game. And honestly, I don't really want one for the iPhone.
But, I do want a quality game I can be pleased to have on my iphone. Baseball Superstars stays on my old cell phone alone...in its box in the closet...collecting dust...
rootbeersoup
01-13-2009, 09:39 PM
But, I do want a quality game I can be pleased to have on my iphone. Baseball Superstars stays on my old cell phone alone...in its box in the closet...collecting dust...
I agree. I want a quality game. But I don't want a game that I'll have to spend a lot of time on in one sitting.
salsamd
01-13-2009, 09:58 PM
I agree. I want a quality game. But I don't want a game that I'll have to spend a lot of time on in one sitting.
Therein lies the essential iphone value of save states and varied gameplay options.
Hippieman
01-14-2009, 11:34 AM
I agree. I want a quality game. But I don't want a game that I'll have to spend a lot of time on in one sitting.
This is the core item we are addressing. You nailed this perfectly.
As for HHG, he's right, we won't have every single aspect of Baseball in, somethings will be taken care of for you. But we've been making games for a very long time, we know a thing or two about AI and what not.
And fortunately Baseball has very defined specific rules.
I can't go into detail as we are refining and changing almost daily (we move very fast here for a small number of people).
I will say our primary focus is Pitching and Batting as they are the more glamorous parts of baseball. But we didn't forget about the Center Fielder (even if everyone else did).
salsamd
01-14-2009, 01:57 PM
As for HHG, he's right, we won't have every single aspect of Baseball in, somethings will be taken care of for you.
But we didn't forget about the Center Fielder (even if everyone else did).
Yes, I hope you don't, as that was my position in college/high school!
Also, hopefully the "things will be taken care of for you." will be based on player specific attributes, eg, stealing a base effectively, beating out a ground ball (player speed); homerun, strike out probability (player strength), etc.
Consider throwing in a couple of switch hitters, if possible–then I can really place my self in the game.:D
rootbeersoup
01-14-2009, 02:48 PM
then I can really place my self in the game.:D
Don't worry, I'm sure there will be a "create a spectator" option :D
One thing I would like to stress that Baseball Superstars failed in so many ways, is the pitch timing. PLEASE make this right.
HandheldGames
01-14-2009, 02:53 PM
So, when do we get to see a preview of HHG's iphone/IPT baseball title??:D
All things happen in good time!
Thx!
HHG
salsamd
01-14-2009, 02:56 PM
Don't worry, I'm sure there will be a "create a spectator" option :D
Excellent repartee! ;)
salsamd
01-14-2009, 03:00 PM
All things happen in good time!
Thx!
HHG
That one is indeed forthcoming, based on inferences derived from remarks within this thread, is very encouraging...
2009 will be a great year!!
salsamd
03-02-2009, 06:10 PM
Today, 05:43 PM
Hippieman
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 111
Re: Flick Baseball : How goes the progress?
It's going very well. There's a lot to go into a game like that. I'm sure we'll be posting video or screenshots soon, just not sure when.
Hippieman
03-02-2009, 06:37 PM
I have no problem updating you guys on stuff.
I think there's going to be some Developer diary info coming out soon. Right now all the major work is in finishing up the AI and sequencing of the game. It's a lot of console output right now.
salsamd
03-06-2009, 05:24 PM
http://toucharcade.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/markandersson.jpg
See Front Page discussion (http://toucharcade.com/2009/03/06/dev-corner-mark-andersson-on-freeverses-flick-baseball/#more-1992) for full story
http://toucharcade.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/image-3-1.png
In the following movie example, using little monoliths for the players, the batter hits the ball towards the shortstop, who fields the grounder, lobs the ball to the second baseman who then turns and quickly throws it to first base for a double play. There are about 30 sequencer commands right now to implement this sequence, although there are few extra ones to simulate a pitch right now. About a third are dedicated to camera movements and timing.
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The red boxes are the inactive fielders, while green indicates fielders that are doing something, either moving, waiting for the ball, or just facing the ball in the case of the third baseman for example. The yellow boxes are the active runners.
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@Mark (hellosh)
How have you implemented fine user control over batting. For example swinging for a high vs medium vs low fastball? Also, how is the pitching controlled? Gestures for different pitches? Menu selections?
Thanks
hellosh
03-06-2009, 06:46 PM
Recently I’ve been doing some lower-level infrastructure work and moving the sequencer code into Xcode to run sample plays right in the simulator, so I’m taking a look at how those run and adding some of the animations of the players. We needed some lower fidelity models for the players far away to save some polygons so I’ve been working on that too.
Fine tuning batting is something we’re going to take a look at next week as I really get into that, but I’m not sure if we’ll really be able to add aiming for the ball more than trying to get the right timing and the inherent skill of the player. You’ll be able to make a choice of whether to do a more defensive grounder-type swing and a going for the fences type of swing. If you try that with your pitcher at bat chances will be higher that you’ll miss completely.
All batting and pitching will be done by gestures and timing will also have some effect for batting so you could swing early or late if you get that wrong. At least those are my thoughts right now and we’ll see in practice how it shapes up and what is fun and easy enough to play. In any case we’re trying to avoid a menu or button selection to specify the pitch as I feel that slows the gameplay down a bit and most people probably want faster action.
skimmer221
04-05-2009, 06:58 PM
So any recent news on this game. I haven't heard anything.
'Jeep
04-06-2009, 05:43 PM
How did the fine-tuning of the batting go, and what kind of gestures are you leaning towards using for pitching and batting? Look forward to hear how you're progressing on this one. :)
dannys95
04-06-2009, 06:18 PM
Any news on this? :(
theone1007
04-06-2009, 09:21 PM
Any news on this? :(
Yeah, really. When is this coming out? To me, seems like Flick Basketball is coming out first, and I hate basketball. It's all about baseball when it comes to sports games even though I'll probably get basketball for the heck of it.
HardcoreEricXXX
04-06-2009, 09:24 PM
I'm also super curious about top gun
FearlessFreep
05-20-2009, 11:32 AM
Is this EVER coming out?
Baseball season is just about 1/4 over. If they're going to release something, they should do it before football starts to take over (Madden, etc.)
dannys95
05-20-2009, 11:33 AM
Let's go Freeverse let's go!! *stumpstump*
rik555
05-27-2009, 01:04 AM
when is it coming out? What happened to it?
jchampl
05-27-2009, 01:09 AM
never.
either one of 2 things happened:
a)
it was stolen out of freeverse's lab by a pack of ninjas. they destroyed it in a ritualistic bonfire, and it will never see the light of day. sorry.
b)
everytime someone posts this same exact thread, a line of code gets deleted from the game. everyday the code just keeps disapearing more and more and more.
rik555
05-27-2009, 01:11 AM
never. it was stolen out of freeverse's lab by a pack of ninjas. they destroyed it in a ritualistic bonfire, and it will never see the light of day. sorry.
what?? i didnt hear about that! darn
jchampl
05-27-2009, 01:12 AM
yup it's a real sad story.
rik555
05-27-2009, 01:18 AM
yup it's a real sad story.
the ninja thing makes sense i guess but why woukld they ruin their own game just because people post!??? theyr elosing money that way!
jchampl
05-27-2009, 01:19 AM
ask the app store gods, they are sadistic and cruel. i don't know what to tell you rik.
rik555
05-27-2009, 01:22 AM
ask the app store gods, they are sadistic and cruel. i don't know what to tell you rik.
ok well thanks for letting me know....so when is it coming out?
jchampl
05-27-2009, 01:24 AM
another line of code deleted from the game. at this rate, NEVER.
WellSpentYouth
05-27-2009, 02:27 AM
another line of code deleted from the game. at this rate, NEVER.
Games have thousands of lines of code. Stick Escape has about 7,000 lines of code and many games have more code. I guess all those threads zipped right passed me then.
bosox412
06-08-2009, 10:38 PM
i want to buy the game sooo bad, :( :)
eggzbacon
06-09-2009, 12:16 AM
It was supposed to come out February.
Google it.
salsamd
06-11-2009, 06:24 PM
From Slide to Play (http://www.slidetoplay.com/story/freeverse-wwdc-roundup)
We first reported on Flick Baseball all the way back at Macworld, when the game was still in the concept stage.
It's grown up a lot since then. There's now a full complement of 35 (faux) teams to choose from (we played as the Atlanta Peaches against the Los Angeles Superstars), and the gameplay's all in place, too.
There are different timing-based touch mechanics for pitching, batting, and fielding, and they work really well, from what we could tell during our limited playtest.
When pitching, you choose a pitch (fastball, curveball, change-up, or slider) and then touch the screen when a rapidly shrinking ring matches up with a circle. Batting is a matter of holding your finger on the bottom of the screen, and then swiping upward as the ball crosses the plate. And in fielding, you must watch carefully as four glove images fly towards each other from opposite corners of the screen, touching right as they superimpose over one another.
Flick Baseball will be out in late June, probably at the $3.99-$4.99 price point .
Hippieman
06-11-2009, 07:23 PM
It might go to 34 teams, only because Even numbers are nice in the UI. (There are extra player created team slots so no content will be cut).
Expect to see more Baseball in the next few weeks. What we had at WWDC was missing a lot of the graphic polish and style.
Chiller ONE
06-16-2009, 09:05 AM
Is this game ever coming out or is it Vaporware?:confused:
Hippieman
06-16-2009, 06:54 PM
Is this game ever coming out or is it Vaporware?:confused:
Yeah. It'll be this summer. We'll announce an official date when we are a bit closer. There's a lot going on in Flick Baseball.
salsamd
06-16-2009, 07:37 PM
Yeah. It'll be this summer. We'll announce an official date when we are a bit closer. There's a lot going on in Flick Baseball.
Summer officially ends in September...:(
I hope it will include multiplayer (hitting vs. pitching) via Bluetooth? :D
colorsound
06-16-2009, 08:08 PM
Yeah. It'll be this summer. We'll announce an official date when we are a bit closer. There's a lot going on in Flick Baseball.
So wait...does that rule out June?!?
Everything I ever read said the game was to release in June.
This summer is very vague - You might as well say TBA 2009
Sorry to be a grouch about it, but I wish developers would stop spitting out release estimates that they can't meet.
I would be perfectly fine if it was always said to launch sometime this year...from the beginning.
There is a lot that goes into developing games and I understand that it sometimes is unpredictable to foresee issues / problems.
DaveMc99
06-16-2009, 08:11 PM
There is a lot that goes into developing games and I understand that it sometimes is unpredictable to foresee issues / problems.
You answered your own post.. months ago they thought it would be June now it will take longer because of whatever.. so?
Fluxdev
06-16-2009, 08:16 PM
Looking really good. Should be nice on my iPod.
upsidedown
06-16-2009, 09:20 PM
This looks good. I cant wait!
GloBaller
06-16-2009, 10:00 PM
So wait...does that rule out June?!?
Everything I ever read said the game was to release in June.
This summer is very vague - You might as well say TBA 2009
Sorry to be a grouch about it, but I wish developers would stop spitting out release estimates that they can't meet.
I would be perfectly fine if it was always said to launch sometime this year...from the beginning.
There is a lot that goes into developing games and I understand that it sometimes is unpredictable to foresee issues / problems.
I'm confused, does the game come out the end of this month or later during the summer
upsidedown
06-18-2009, 06:21 PM
Hope this comes out soon!
yournothere
06-18-2009, 07:22 PM
this game looks so good. i cant wait for it. I have been waiting for AWHILE!!!
Chiller ONE
06-19-2009, 10:50 AM
Yeah. It'll be this summer. We'll announce an official date when we are a bit closer. There's a lot going on in Flick Baseball.
Awesome!
While I'm waiting for this, is there another baseball game you guys would recommend? Baseball Slugger looks great but it is not a fully featured baseball game or is it? :confused:
salsamd
06-21-2009, 03:41 PM
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Please add animations to the outfielder throwing before app store submission!!
"What we had at WWDC was missing a lot of the graphic polish and style."
There are different timing-based touch mechanics for pitching, batting, and fielding, and they work really well, from what we could tell during our limited playtest.
When pitching, you choose a pitch (fastball, curveball, change-up, or slider) and then touch the screen when a rapidly shrinking ring matches up with a circle. Batting is a matter of holding your finger on the bottom of the screen, and then swiping upward as the ball crosses the plate. And in fielding, you must watch carefully as four glove images fly towards each other from opposite corners of the screen, touching right as they superimpose over one another.
GloBaller
06-21-2009, 05:20 PM
YouTube: video (http://youtube.com/watch?v=hFG0Mu_RUMk)
Please add animations to the outfielder throwing before app store submission!!
"What we had at WWDC was missing a lot of the graphic polish and style."
these couldn't be the graphics they're releasing. If they are then all this time freeverse was wasting their time.
theone1007
06-21-2009, 05:28 PM
The design looks good. I'm sure they're gonna add facial details and stuff like they did to their basketball app. Animations for the characters should be added and will most likely be added. Pretty sure Freeverse knows what they're doing.
TRIPLE BEAM DREAM
06-21-2009, 06:32 PM
Wow, that video sucks. Almost laughable, I hope that was posted as a joke.
5duc29
06-21-2009, 06:41 PM
I think I'd rather stay with 9 Innings and Baseball Superstars.
salsamd
06-21-2009, 07:58 PM
Well hopefully all is as stated:
"What we had at WWDC was missing a lot of the graphic polish and style."
Big Albie
06-21-2009, 10:59 PM
Well hopefully all is as stated:
"What we had at WWDC was missing a lot of the graphic polish and style."
I'm sure that's the case with the video. But having said that, I probably would've buried that video. You definitely don't want any misconceptions out there before a release.
Yeah, the video looks awful.
FearlessFreep
06-23-2009, 10:26 AM
Well, I had high hopes for this game, but it looks really disappointing. It seems like it's essentially been abandoned by Freeverse, and maybe that's a good thing. I really would like a great baseball sim, but there just isn't one with the complete package out there yet.
AttackOfThePwned
06-23-2009, 10:33 AM
Well, I had high hopes for this game, but it looks really disappointing. It seems like it's essentially been abandoned by Freeverse, and maybe that's a good thing. I really would like a great baseball sim, but there just isn't one with the complete package out there yet.
They haven't abandoned it as it is at the forefront of their release schedule. Freeverse is tying for a late June or more likely July release. If it is anything like the SNES title Baseball Stars it should be fun.
Hippieman
06-24-2009, 06:29 PM
This is exactly why game companies hate showing stuff off early. So much changes so fast, it's impossible stay in sync.
Baseball is plowing ahead nicely. That video was missing so much, from the correct 3D models to the uniforms, etc...
But people wouldn't believe us when we said we were working on it. We would get accused daily of lying that we were working on it. So in a gesture of good faith, we showed that the game was heavily being worked on.
Expect to see a lot more as the game moves into Beta and all the assets are final.
salsamd
06-24-2009, 07:38 PM
And order returns to the universe...;)
bosox412
07-16-2009, 11:54 PM
any updates?
HardcoreEricXXX
08-30-2009, 12:54 PM
Will we see this before the end of baseball season? I thought the Flick sports games had been pretty successful, I thought we'd see a few more of 'em.
How many times has Flick Fishing made it back up to the top of the charts after dropping off?
ericxd
08-30-2009, 03:13 PM
Will we see this before the end of baseball season? I thought the Flick sports games had been pretty successful, I thought we'd see a few more of 'em.
How many times has Flick Fishing made it back up to the top of the charts after dropping off?
I'm done with freeverse I hate all the games I bought of them.
Brazilian Rider
09-01-2009, 09:16 PM
Where the hell is this thing?
bosox412
09-02-2009, 04:59 PM
emailed them and got a quick response back
First off, thanks for your interest! I do not know when this game will be released as we're still working on adding features and enhancing the game overall.
Please stay tuned.
Thanks,
Paul Irizarry
Freeverse, Inc.
web: http://freeverse.com/support
tel: (212) 929-3549
salsamd
09-28-2009, 01:39 PM
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Freeverse's upcoming baseball game, Flick Baseball is looking even more impressive than when we first saw it at WWDC. In the past few months the developers have been adding all kinds of functionality to the game, creating an amazingly complete baseball experience for the iPhone.
Different game modes are included ranging from exhibition games to a full 165 game season mode where you play from opening day to the championships. If you don't want to commit to quite that much baseball, 11, 33, and 66 game seasons are also available. There's even a multiplayer homerun derby mode.
Flick Baseball has a lineup of 34 teams to choose from, each with different rosters and statistics. The game doesn't have MLB licensing, but you can customize absolutely ever aspect of the teams from names to jersey colors. If playing as the Cubs is important to you, and you're willing to spend the time to build the entire team, there's nothing stopping you.
NYCrooner
09-28-2009, 01:49 PM
The gameplay graphics look pretty horrific. I have a hard time believing that the iphone can't produce better player models than this.
If the N64 could produce this:
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/4616/asb2001790screen001.jpg (http://img515.imageshack.us/i/asb2001790screen001.jpg/)
I don't see why the iphone can't produce something similar.
salsamd
09-28-2009, 02:04 PM
I too am somewhat disappointed by the graphics, which appear scaled down from prior builds..
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FearlessFreep
09-28-2009, 03:21 PM
This thing is vaporware. Isn't this the same kind of stuff they teased with a long time ago? Note to Freeverse: baseball season is just about OVER. And in that entire glitzy video, you only saw about five seconds of ACTUAL GAMEPLAY. Color me skeptical that this will amount to anything.
dannys95
09-28-2009, 03:36 PM
This thing is vaporware. Isn't this the same kind of stuff they teased with a long time ago? Note to Freeverse: baseball season is just about OVER. And in that entire glitzy video, you only saw about five seconds of ACTUAL GAMEPLAY. Color me skeptical that this will amount to anything.
it's a teaser / preview trailer. ;)
Squirt Reynolds
09-28-2009, 03:39 PM
The gameplay graphics look pretty horrific. I have a hard time believing that the iphone can't produce better player models than this.
+1.. I don't know if anybody else played Flick NBA Basketball, but it was an absolute atrocity, and this looks to be about the same.
Freeverse has gone completely downhill since Moto Racer.
Mr. Charley
09-28-2009, 03:42 PM
it's a teaser / preview trailer. ;)
Teaser's are supposed to make you want to play the game...I don't think this is going to accomplish anything in terms of building anticipation other than to see it crash and burn... :eek:
The Game Reaper
09-28-2009, 03:44 PM
LMAO at "these are the best player animations for an iPhone sports game".
dannys95
09-28-2009, 03:54 PM
LMAO at "these are the best player animations for an iPhone sports game".
Compare them with MLB's official 3D baseball game and well.....Freeverse is a god compared to those
bosox412
12-07-2009, 10:41 PM
........... ummmmmmm freeverse....
eggzbacon
12-07-2009, 11:10 PM
........... ummmmmmm freeverse....
Exactly.
bosox412
12-28-2009, 03:06 PM
Exactly.
..... your P!SSING me off freeverse... this better be worth the wait
sizzlakalonji
12-28-2009, 04:02 PM
I thought I remembered them dropping this from development.
bosox412
12-28-2009, 04:40 PM
link?
turakm
01-16-2010, 01:43 AM
So is this done? Or whatever happened
kmacleod
01-16-2010, 01:50 AM
So is this done? Or whatever happened
It looked like garbage, they knew it, and they decided to take more time. Let's hope they make it decent, because they have some serious competition now.
bosox412
02-08-2010, 06:42 PM
ITS NOT DEAD!!!
after contacting freeverse, i receive this response
Hi ________
We appreciate your interest in Flick Sports Baseball. We are still actively working on the game and although we do not have a firm release date, we are looking at making it available very soon.
Regards,
Paul Irizarry
Freeverse, Inc.
web: http://freeverse.com/support
tel: (212) 929-3549
On Feb 7, 2010, at 3:35 PM, alpha411@usa.com wrote:
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> people on touch arcade are saying you have axed flick sports baseball. Is that true? if not, do you have any ETA on when it will be released. i have been looking forward to this game for a long time, and am a huge freeverse fan...
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> thanks for you help!!!
Derochea72
02-08-2010, 07:02 PM
It looked like garbage, they knew it, and they decided to take more time. Let's hope they make it decent, because they have some serious competition now.
What competition are you talking about?
Is there another real baseball game coming out?
doodlejumper
02-08-2010, 07:16 PM
What competition are you talking about?
Is there another real baseball game coming out?
I think he's most likely talking about Derek Jeter Real Baseball.
Derochea72
02-08-2010, 07:35 PM
I think he's most likely talking about Derek Jeter Real Baseball.
Is that actually good?
bosox412
02-10-2010, 09:05 PM
no it is not
doodlejumper
02-10-2010, 09:45 PM
Yeah, but it's the closest thing to Flick Sports Baseball that's currently on the store.
strato g
02-10-2010, 11:56 PM
What are you talking about? The main thing Derek Jeter Real Baseball is missing is an MLB license. There are some other features that it lacks, for a full scale baseball game, but it's no doubt the best and most realistic in the app store.
bosox412
02-11-2010, 12:33 AM
the version i played the hitting was terrible.. You hit a grounder that gets to the outfielder, and he throws you out at first
qasim
04-10-2010, 08:07 PM
This thing still isn't out!? It's been over a year! Holy crap!
Derochea72
04-10-2010, 08:22 PM
Well they said soon 2 months ago and the baseball season has already started and it's still not here. I think it's safe to say that soon to a developer means a really long time.
Hopefully they are making a 3gs specific version
ImNoSuperMan
04-28-2010, 03:24 AM
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Releasing on May 3rd
http://toucharcade.com/2010/04/28/exclusive-flick-baseball-preview-freeverses-baseball-game-is-almost-here/
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Flick Baseball is a full 3D baseball game that looks and plays a lot like a fleshed out version of Com2Us's Homerun Battle 3D [$4.99 / Free] with 3D players, tilt to aim batting, and some extra features such as being able to control your runners and where your outfielders throw the ball. Since Homerun Battle 3D is still one of my favorite iPhone games, I'm really happy with how Freeverse seems to have captured a very similar batting mechanic that works extremely well.
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New England Gamer
04-28-2010, 07:30 AM
Yay this wasn't abandoned! Can't wait.
Hippieman
04-28-2010, 12:33 PM
Sorry for all the delays. The game really went through some radical and major changes.
In addition to total re-writes to the control systems, an entirely new player AI system went into the game. It's an amazing game right now.
I know a lot of people thought it was dead and forgotten, but we have been hard at work over the last year on it.
frogtorch
04-28-2010, 12:48 PM
Great news! Thanks for taking your time and doing it right, instead of releasing an unremarkable (or even unplayable) game. This is going to be awesome.
Aspargusman
04-28-2010, 12:50 PM
im happy this is getting released, but whatever happened to the buggy free version of flick bowling 2?
Hippieman
04-28-2010, 01:26 PM
im happy this is getting released, but whatever happened to the buggy free version of flick bowling 2?
It's being re-worked. The current ad networks kind of suck and were causing the game to crash. So the team is working on a better version of it.
exalep
04-28-2010, 01:34 PM
How much will the game cost?
lydia
04-28-2010, 01:54 PM
We are expecting Flick Baseball Pro to cost $2.99.
Osujxu
04-28-2010, 04:00 PM
If i had to buy one should I get flick baseball or flick bowling?
SpartanTom84
04-28-2010, 04:43 PM
Baseball for sure.
Will090
04-28-2010, 04:46 PM
From the video it seems like you have no control over the fielding besides what base you want to throw to. Do you get to control the fielders to move under a pop fly, in front of a grounder, etc?
bosox412
04-29-2010, 12:35 AM
i am wondering also, can we control the fielders?
Crimsonic21
04-29-2010, 02:36 PM
i am wondering also, can we control the fielders?
You can't run the fielders around but are required to help them catch the ball for some hits as well as get it to the appropriate bases (trying for double and triple plays.) And there's still things like pitching and managing/picking off runners that you need to keep an eye on as well.
We also don't limit which base you can throw to so it's possible for you to throw to the wrong base and let a runner score so some strategy is required when fielding the ball correctly (as it is in real life.)
We considered allowing users to control a fielder running around the field but the controls on the small iPhone screen just never felt right; and when asked what part of baseball games people liked the least fielding constantly came up as #1.
Once you play the game I think you'll find that the amount of control is really rather deep.
salsamd
04-29-2010, 03:00 PM
Is the fielding similar to this old video?:
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You can't run the fielders around but are required to help them catch the ball for some hits as well as get it to the appropriate bases (trying for double and triple plays.)
Derochea72
05-01-2010, 10:53 PM
Should be only 1 day left to wait through as long as it's already been approved and waiting for Sunday night. I feel like I have been waiting around for a yeay and a half for this one. Hope it's worth the wait.
Cifuang
05-01-2010, 11:24 PM
Mmm only a few hours till it's on in NZ, can't wait!
Will090
05-01-2010, 11:55 PM
Is there multiplayer, cause it would be amazing
Derochea72
05-02-2010, 12:04 AM
Is there multiplayer, cause it would be amazing
I believe they said no multiplayer
bosox412
05-02-2010, 01:36 AM
how do you know its submitted
Derochea72
05-02-2010, 02:17 AM
how do you know its submitted
They announced just the other day that it would be available on may 3rd, that wouldn't be able to say that if it wasn't already approved
New England Gamer
05-02-2010, 10:06 AM
Errr I was expecting a post from I'm No Superman this morning saying it was released in NZ by now!!!! (if indeed the May 3rd release day is true!)
Freeverse's website has this game's status as available on the App Store - so it can't be very long now!
qasim
05-02-2010, 10:23 AM
If it's supposed to be out May 3rd, maybe it'll be a midnight release.
That's what Tapulous did with Riddim Ribbon
Cifuang
05-02-2010, 11:41 AM
I hope it'll be out today, but why isn't it out in NZ?
bosox412
05-02-2010, 05:37 PM
any update?
can you add an RPG part to the game in a future update, kind of like a RTTS type thing, like b-ball Super stars?
salsamd
05-02-2010, 06:57 PM
from front page (http://toucharcade.com/2010/04/28/exclusive-flick-baseball-preview-freeverses-baseball-game-is-almost-here/):
Flick Baseball should be available May 3rd, so keep an eye out for a full review and another video of me (hopefully) hitting nothing but home runs with my tricked out custom baseball team. So far I'm really enjoying the game a lot, and look forward to getting deeper in to it.
ImNoSuperMan
05-02-2010, 07:02 PM
from front page (http://toucharcade.com/2010/04/28/exclusive-flick-baseball-preview-freeverses-baseball-game-is-almost-here/):
If it was to release on May 3rd, it would have shown up in the NZ store already. Probably not approved yet.
bosox412
05-02-2010, 09:51 PM
If it was to release on May 3rd, it would have shown up in the NZ store already. Probably not approved yet.
thats why i was wondering if there was any updates
New England Gamer
05-02-2010, 10:44 PM
If it was to release on May 3rd, it would have shown up in the NZ store already. Probably not approved yet.
Precisely why I was puzzled this morning not to see a post from you. I guess I thought May 3rd was a firm release date. I overlooked the word "should" apparently in that post!
Cifuang
05-02-2010, 11:58 PM
Nothing on their Twitter, i don't think it'll be out today.
Derochea72
05-03-2010, 01:56 AM
It's the 3rd all day today so let's hope they can come through for us.
exalep
05-03-2010, 05:24 AM
I really hope they don't dissappoint...
lydia
05-03-2010, 11:48 AM
Just dropping in to say that unfortunately Flick Baseball is still in the process of being approved by Apple. It was submitted last week within our usual submittal process and it appears as though they must really be backed up. We're just as upset that it's not available when we thought it was going to be, so please be patient! We've all seen this happen before, when submisions are racked up and the App Store gets overwhelmed, so it could drop anytime.
Thanks again for understanding, we're excited you guys want to play baseball so much! We are also excited for it to finally go live. ;)
bosox412
05-03-2010, 06:35 PM
tell us when its approved please
BazookaTime
05-03-2010, 07:22 PM
Just dropping in to say that unfortunately Flick Baseball is still in the process of being approved by Apple. It was submitted last week within our usual submittal process and it appears as though they must really be backed up. We're just as upset that it's not available when we thought it was going to be, so please be patient! We've all seen this happen before, when submisions are racked up and the App Store gets overwhelmed, so it could drop anytime.
Thanks again for understanding, we're excited you guys want to play baseball so much! We are also excited for it to finally go live. ;)
Thanks for the update. I will be buying this as soon as it is released. The approval process seems to be taking much longer lately as I have noticed the delays with several games that I am waiting for.
bosox412
05-04-2010, 12:51 AM
i will also be buying it ASAP. i was following this all the way through during the times where there was no news at all and everyone thought it was canned
Derochea72
05-04-2010, 12:53 AM
I thought it was canned
iVaro
05-04-2010, 09:12 AM
Should this game be added to the "Announced Long Ago But Will Be Coming In A Long Time" group with Splinter Cell and Mirror's Edge?
strato g
05-04-2010, 09:35 AM
She's absolutely right, guys. I was just thinking about all this yesterday. You can' really blame the game developers, for delays. Apple is the real source of everyone's frustration. That's the one thing you can say about the console games is that when a release date is given, that's the date. So, maybe when the idevices are taken more seriously in the gaming world, this will change. I say this because the customer base will be much greater and less tolerant of such delays.
heffdog116
05-04-2010, 10:41 PM
Will an iPad version of this be released eventually or just buy this and 2x it?
bosox412
05-04-2010, 10:46 PM
dont the mods/admins, have the power to delete these posts, this thread became very messy and with many arguments, cant the mods just delete those posts?
and to those of you wondering when it will be out, follow freeverse's twitter, they will announce it on that most likely
Hodapp
05-04-2010, 10:51 PM
dont the mods/admins, have the power to delete these posts, this thread became very messy and with many arguments, cant the mods just delete those posts?
We'll get a new thread when the game is released, not much sense in attempting to cull this release rage now.
ImNoSuperMan
05-04-2010, 11:02 PM
Hi,
Moved the highly educational posts by professor Natron onto another thread. Didnt want his ideas to be restricted to only those who bothered to check this game. Hopefully the whole of Appstore dev community will learn a thing or two now, not just freeverse :)
http://forums.toucharcade.com/showthread.php?t=53941
And no more offtopic posts in this thread. Its a thread for Flick Baseball. Please keep your posts limited to queries about this game only and not about how a dev should market his/her game and what should he/she chose to share with the gamers.
Thanks.
IMNS
sizzlakalonji
05-04-2010, 11:04 PM
We'll get a new thread when the game is released, not much sense in attempting to cull this release rage now.
Damn, and I was taking copious notes for a possible Doctoral thesis on app store marketing. How can I continue without those masterful business nuggets?
Big Albie
05-04-2010, 11:15 PM
Damn, and I was taking copious notes for a possible Doctoral thesis on app store marketing. How can I continue without those masterful business nuggets?
Nuggets of something, that's for sure.
Anyway, looking forward to Flick Baseball. Hopefully it's out soon. :rolleyes:
Harpgliss
05-04-2010, 11:19 PM
Hi,
ImNoSuperMan, great job with moving the posts over to its own thread.
My apologies for adding to the content moved, hopefully this thread will go on in a civil way.
David
heffdog116
05-05-2010, 11:13 AM
Out!!
ImNoSuperMan
05-05-2010, 11:27 AM
Out!!
Yup.
iTunes Link : http://itunes.apple.com/nz/app/flick-baseball-pro/id331940814?mt=8
TA thread : http://forums.toucharcade.com/showthread.php?t=53987
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