forum idea: separate subforum for promo code threads?

[costanza]

Personally, I think the clutter of all the threads for promo codes and random giveaways in the main forum is getting to be a bit ridiculous. IMO it'd be a really good idea to separate the threads from the actual game discussion and give them their own subforum.

Thoughts?

[spmwinkel]

Agreed. For me being from Europe it makes me sad to see these topics anyway, I won't be able to participate in the giveaways. :(

;)

[Everydaynormalguy]

Ok, so I take the whole afternoon off to watch my Cardinals embarrass the Panthers and when I log back on all I see is the Games section spammed with all this promo crap. Just take a look at this: http://forums.toucharcade.com/showthread.php?t=3601. Something has to be done about this. Here's a couple of ideas:


Only the developer or representative of that game can issue promo codes, not regular members.
Spamming those threads by directly asking for a promo code (even if the dev is handing them out) or posting something like "am I too late" or "I always miss these things" should result in an immediate ban. The length of which can be negotiated depending on the severity
or
Like the OP suggested, make a new Subforum for this kind of thing where posts do not count towards your total since what they truly are is spam.

Thank you for your time...

[wastedyuthe]

I agree. I am getting VERY fed up with seeing all these promo code threads that don't have anything to do with actual game discussion. I vote for a seperate section or a ban of such threads.
Something does indeed need to be done about this now.

[wastedyuthe]

Just checked the Games section and found there are (at the time of writing) SIX threads based on promo codes.
Another Spore promo code (http://forums.toucharcade.com/showthread.php?t=3608)
1 promo code for Spore (http://forums.toucharcade.com/showthread.php?t=3606)
200 promo codes for Spore after survey (http://forums.toucharcade.com/showthread.php?t=3585)
One free paper airplane code (http://forums.toucharcade.com/showthread.php?t=3601)
One tilt-it promo code (http://forums.toucharcade.com/showthread.php?t=3603)
Follow me on Twitter, get a Spore promo code (http://forums.toucharcade.com/showthread.php?t=3602)

I will close the last one as all he is doing is advertising his Twitter page.

[edit] just deleted the last one. I'm not taking any sh!t now.

[rootbeersoup]

PLEASE ban promo code threads... They do NO good. All it does is attract the vultures who lurk all day for codes. Just look how huge those topics get.

The topics add nothing to the forum and just attract the wrong kind of people. Not to mention that hardly any of the contributive forum members ever get these codes.

If we don't want to ban the topics, then at least make a sub-forum for all promo codes threads. Make this subforum invisible to anyone with less than X aamount of posts, so that the people that contribute to the forum can get free games instead of people who lurk all day for codes *COUGH*ipodtouchguru3*COUGH*

[wastedyuthe]

I have sent a PM to Arn linking this thread.

[PoV]

Or start an "All Threads Must Include a Promo Code" policy. :p

[mek]

I agree, i was just thinking about starting a thread about seperating the promo codes from the main forums...
it is clutter..and looks bad
and it has made me stop checking the forums which is the reason why i essentially visit toucharcade

[rootbeersoup]

and it has made me stop checking the forums which is the reason why i essentially visit toucharcade

Agreed. The promo code madness has been a real turn off for me

[wastedyuthe]

Agreed. The promo code madness has been a real turn off for me

Yep. It is promo code madness- indeed. I just had to delete a thread someone started just to beg for a Spore code, when there are several threads on Spore codes already. I am not happy.

[nattylux]

Just chiming in here. I'm a developer, and I love the free advertising we can do on TouchArcade more than I love cake. And even I am getting tired of the promo code threads. A separate subforum for just these threads sounds like a great idea. The developers can still get their eyeballs, and the main forum can go back to game discussions. Everyone wins.

[wastedyuthe]

It's nice to hear a developers point of view. These promo codes are giving me a nightmare. They are promoting greed. I have once again had to delete a thread asking for a promo code for Spore.

[trev81uk]

I agree, a seperare sub-forum for Promo Codes would be good!
Does anyone know if promo codes are always only valid for the US ? Do we in the UK not get any ?

[Mr. Charley]

PLEASE ban promo code threads... They do NO good. All it does is attract the vultures who lurk all day for codes. Just look how huge those topics get.

The topics add nothing to the forum and just attract the wrong kind of people. Not to mention that hardly any of the contributive forum members ever get these codes.

If we don't want to ban the topics, then at least make a sub-forum for all promo codes threads. Make this subforum invisible to anyone with less than X aamount of posts, so that the people that contribute to the forum can get free games instead of people who lurk all day for codes *COUGH*ipodtouchguru3*COUGH*

I really like your last point rootbeersoup.
I agree that these promo threads are getting out of hand, and attracting the wrong type of members. It think it is kind of (only kind of) funny that it is us, the "senior" and active members, who feel most strongly about this as it has changed the vibe around here. I also agree that these promo codes have become spam, especially the one that was advertising his site, and everyone needs to join/follow on twitter to be eligible for a code. blech.

On the other hand :)
I have been fortunate enough to receive a code or 2 and really appreciate the promo (no pun intended) and was able to try out a game I otherwise would never have tried. And that's why I really like your last point, with a subforum for the codes and only for active members. Then again, maybe I only like that point because I believe I fit in that group! ;)

[brewstermax]

I like promo codes. I mean, I would have spent untold amounts of money to get the apps that I have recieved promo codes for. But this is out of control, and I completely agree that something has to be done. If nothing else, ban promo threads, make a list of upstanding member for devs to send them to, to get good feedback on it. It is certianly out of control, and if you miss a 200 code giveaway, I can only say to get over it, and get the game. Spore is ok, nothing too special, but it is fun.

[Carlos-Sz]

And there's (probably) a really bad side of those SPORE codes: it seems that one get a code that doesn't need or can't use just to start a topic like this taking away the chances of somebody else to get a code.

One code. One topic. C'mon. PM a friend.

[spmwinkel]

I don't think that making a promo code forum invisible to members with few posts would be a good idea.

People would spam until they've got enough posts to see the promo code topic.

[wastedyuthe]

I don't think that making a promo code forum invisible to members with few posts would be a good idea.

People would spam until they've got enough posts to see the promo code topic.

Good point.

[Mr. Charley]

I can understand the fear of the spamming to get to x amount of posts to be able to get to the subforum...

What about brewstermax's idea of a list of upstanding members? We'll let you mods deal with the pressure of picking us out! ;)

[brewstermax]

I don't think that making a promo code forum invisible to members with few posts would be a good idea.

People would spam until they've got enough posts to see the promo code topic.

Don't tell them about it. Make it a secret URL, and don't tell anybody. And don't allow them to PM that specific URL. It wouldn't be too hard. I like my idea though..

[spmwinkel]

I like the idea as well, I do. :)

But you won't be able to hide it. I think you can make forums that can only be seen by people in a specific group (so PM-ing or e-mailing the link wouldn't work), but still you need only one person to spread the word that promo codes can be gotten if you're a senior member, and it won't be a secret anymore.

Also, all developers would have to keep it a secret, and they would have to be made a member of the senior group. Or they would have to be given a special "developer" status (another new group not based on post count) who have access to the subforum. Which may be possible, it just needs to be considered. :)

[VirtualAlex]

This is a good idea, at the core, promo code give-aways don't belong in the Game Discussion forum anyway annoying or not. It isn't the place for them. It's also fair to assume that this "code spamming" will only become a larger problem as the community grows.

[evanmav]

i dont think making a promo codes sub forum would be good. it seems like a lot of people would just stay there and wait until a dev posts a code and wouldnt even go into any other forums. promo codes are getting out of hand and it sucks. i want to talk about games and the app store not OMFGZZZZ I HAZ SPORZ PROMMMO CODE PMZ IF U WANTSSS SOME.

[brewstermax]

I like the idea as well, I do. :)

But you won't be able to hide it. I think you can make forums that can only be seen by people in a specific group (so PM-ing or e-mailing the link wouldn't work), but still you need only one person to spread the word that promo codes can be gotten if you're a senior member, and it won't be a secret anymore.

Also, all developers would have to keep it a secret, and they would have to be made a member of the senior group. Or they would have to be given a special "developer" status (another new group not based on post count) who have access to the subforum. Which may be possible, it just needs to be considered. :)

Make a user specific one. It can't be hard, or have it password protected. Banning if you are caught sharing or anything. It is hard to do, but it should be workable.

[field5]

Make a user specific one. It can't be hard, or have it password protected. Banning if you are caught sharing or anything. It is hard to do, but it should be workable.

So I guess no NFL code contest next week :(

[Mhans13]

ok i can see y people would want promo codes in a different forum but make it only accesible to some members? yeah i think its annoying as much as the next person but im also all for getting lucky and being the first person to stumble upon a free promo code. if u want a different forum thats one thing but making restrictions or banning them is just stupid.

[Zwilnik]

I'm starting to see posts that look worryingly like spam. Stuff like "email me for promo codes" with lists of games that somehow this person has got codes for.

Sounds like promo codes could be the next set of bait for phishing attempts on iPhone users.

[brewstermax]

I'm starting to see posts that look worryingly like spam. Stuff like "email me for promo codes" with lists of games that somehow this person has got codes for.

Sounds like promo codes could be the next set of bait for phishing attempts on iPhone users.

Yes. Most likely, but it confuses me that people would be so desperate for a maximum of $10. It is very strange. I like promo codes as much as the next person, but still.

[wastedyuthe]

i dont think making a promo codes sub forum would be good. it seems like a lot of people would just stay there and wait until a dev posts a code and wouldnt even go into any other forums.

Exactly. If someones reason for being here is to wait around for codes and they don't bother visiting other sections, then they are not welcome in the other sections anyway imo. Let them wait in that section like vulchures and leave the rest of us alone.

[brewstermax]

Well, something has to happen as 6, count them, six. Threads are on the first game page about promo codes. Trouble, asking for them, I have some, etc. On the first page.

[rootbeersoup]

I don't think that making a promo code forum invisible to members with few posts would be a good idea.

People would spam until they've got enough posts to see the promo code topic.

No, people would be unaware that such a forum exists.

The real problem would be new devs who wouldn't know about the forum

[RedStaR]

well either way it happens, people need to chill out.

I just reemed for making a ("misleading" according to touch arcade) thread in which I told people if they wanted codes to a few apps I had to e-mail me.
I didn't know that they were expired, and i didn't know who to find out prior without redeeming them and I mentioned that in my post saying I had them I even told the date I recieved them without knowing the 30-day expiration date. However Brewster Max told me a simple way to check which didn't dawn on me. Again I apologize if you recieved one that was expired.
The only reason I posted in that forum is because thats where I saw the rest, when I rememberd I still had some. so I'm sorry if people are getting fed up with a junior member (because T.A. is the one keeping rank not me) posting game codes in the games section.

@Brewstermax:
I sincerley apologize if what I thought to be and act of kindness was somthing you felt to be counter productive and time consuming. I will say that I did feel slighted when you questioned where I got the codes but understand why you asked and more importantly understand why the thread was at it's end. Which brings me to my next point.. With all do respect, I beleive that you have a knack for monitering, so maybe T.A. should have you be the post moniter/director/and or filter.
Good fortune to you

[games42]

Exactly. If someones reason for being here is to wait around for codes and they don't bother visiting other sections, then they are not welcome in the other sections anyway imo. Let them wait in that section like vulchures and leave the rest of us alone.

I just wanted a fair poll

[rootbeersoup]

Average age of people FOR promo codes: 13
Average age of people annoyed by them: Old enough to have a job and buy their own apps

your job as a moderator is not to impose your will on others. The thread on the main thread with the poll for people to vote had 25 YES Keep the promos there and 24 NO move them at the time you closed it. Which is the reason you closed it since you want the promo codes moved and it wouldn't be good for arn to see it....now let me guess you're gonna ban me because I don't agree with you.

Who the hell are you? Wastedyuthe became a mod so now he lost all right to voice his not-so-far-off opinion?

[games42]

I just thought a poll would give us all a good idea as to what we all want

[Zetaspawn]

No, people would be unaware that such a forum exists.

The real problem would be new devs who wouldn't know about the forum
Wrong. Post it in the rules post. And if they are unable to understAnd that's what we have mode for. To inform people and move the threads. It's common knowledge for the average poster to check the rules for that individual forum. I don't think we should underestimate peoples education

[RedStaR]

I wouldn't say they would ban you.......probably just erase your post, apparentlty thats a warning.

Theres a lot of threads in the games section that could be closed but it ain't gonna happen.

they need to post a review........I get it theres a new LCD game

[games42]

sorry wastedyuthe I didn't mean to offend you but I thought my poll would give a good and fair idea as to what everyone wants

[wastedyuthe]

he closed my very valid poll on the main thread...just because you're a mod it doesn't give you the right to lose threads that you personally don't like or agree with...it's just not right.

Ok. I closed that thread because IT WAS IN THE WRONG SECTION. You are discussing the forum layout so that type of discussion belongs in THIS section, not Games. Anyone who knows me knows I am a fair person, which is how I became a mod. To prove it, I won't ban you as you seem to think I will. Just follow the rules. That's all I ask.

(edit) just read your apology above. Thank you.

[brewstermax]

I used to think that it took rocket science to come up with a great idea. Wow, costanza, are you a rocket scientist?? ;). @rootbeersoup, I agree completely. @RedStaR, yes it was, and maybe a poll on this one would be more appropriate.

[brewstermax]

Ok. I closed that thread because IT WAS IN THE WRONG SECTION. You are discussing the forum layout so that type of discussion belongs in THIS section, not Games. Anyone who knows me knows I am a fair person, which is how I became a mod. To prove it, I won't ban you as you seem to think I will. Just follow the rules. That's all I ask.

I love that TouchArcade is a democracy. No communist mods around here. :p.

[wastedyuthe]

I will add a poll to this thread to make this absolutely fair, ok people?

[RedStaR]

@Brewmaster:
Thats a very arrogant acception of an apology?

[tadad1]

I'm all for a devoted promo code section, the code whoring is on the rise and will only get worse.

[wastedyuthe]

Ok people. Poll is up on this thread. Start voting!

[games42]

I will add a poll to this thread to make this absolutely fair, ok people?

lol ok group hug :) no hard feelings....I guess I'm off to a bad start here so let's start fresh...anyways a poll here wouldn't really work since everyone in this thread is against the promos but wtvr and sorry again. I'm really a nice person.:o

[RedStaR]

what I don't understand is how promo threads consiting of joke and football score contest are still up in the games section!!!!!!!!! and these aren't like junior members starting these threads either, but i guess that's why its acceptible.

fair my a$$!!!

[wastedyuthe]

lol ok group hug :) no hard feelings....I guess I'm off to a bad start here so let's start fresh...anyways a poll here wouldn't really work since everyone in this thread is against the promos but wtvr and sorry again. I'm really a nice person.:o

Yes, lets start fresh (hand-shake).
The poll here should work fine. Everyone has a chance of visiting this section of the forum, wether they are for or against. I will even edit my last post on the closed thread to say people can vote on this one.
Thanks again for the apology.

[rootbeersoup]

I voted for a new section, but I'd rather they just be done away with completely

[field5]

what I don't understand is how promo threads consiting of joke and football score contest are still up in the games section!!!!!!!!! and these aren't like junior members starting these threads either, but i guess that's why its acceptible.

fair my a$$!!!

yea I can't stand those users who start NFL contests for a promo code :D
I guess no more from me :(

[RedStaR]

@Wastedyouth:
I understand that a clutter of any repetitve post is annoying, but it's not as if a lot has come out in the last few days to talk about....even the homepage has had the same LCD game up since yesterday morning. Not to mention that threads filter themselves...so if a collective group wanted to stop the thread from blossoming in that forum he could just not post a comment saying "how he hates that people make these threads or to many" you kind of made your own monster there.

I measn if i don't like a thread thats at the bottom...I wouldn't post a pointless comment "how many more codes threads do we need" cause that would put it at the top

Second- this is a question, as it stands now there is no deticated forum for codes right? so where would someone new start a GAME code thread.....prbably the GAMES section.
not trying to be a dick....i'm asking seriousley

[snow_mani]

I voted to create a new section for promo codes. While I personally find the promo code threads and posts annoying, I would not like to see them banned from Touch Arcade. I'm sure they serve a good purpose for app developers and some users. So a seperate promo code section would be a good idea.

[wastedyuthe]

@Wastedyouth:
1)if a collective group wanted to stop the thread from blossoming in that forum he could just not post a comment saying "how he hates that people make these threads or to many" you kind of made your own monster there.

I measn if i don't like a thread thats at the bottom...I wouldn't post a pointless comment "how many more codes threads do we need" cause that would put it at the top

2) this is a question, as it stands now there is no deticated forum for codes right? so where would someone new start a GAME code thread.....prbably the GAMES section.
not trying to be a dick....i'm asking seriousley

1) Agreed. Trouble is they still stay at the top till the codes have gone anyway. Before all this promo-code stuff, this place was a great forum for game discussion, and that's all we wanted. Then it changed to what it is now.

2) Agreed. At the moment, the Game section is the only place for it. But that's why we are discussing the issue here.

[RedStaR]

I think tht the Iphone wallpaper thread needs to be moved aswell

[rootbeersoup]

1) Agreed. Trouble is they still stay at the top till the codes have gone anyway. Before all this promo-code stuff, this place was a great forum for game discussion, and that's all we wanted. Then it changed to what it is now.

You are so right... I used to love coming here and talking about games. Current games, future games, etc. I wasn't even bothered by the X vs Y threads. But all this promo code crap has been a total turn off and I've been visiting TA very sparingly since this has all happened.

[wastedyuthe]

I think tht the Iphone wallpaper thread needs to be moved aswell

Yes I thought about moving it to the Lounge, but the wallpapers started off being (and are mostly) of apps/games. So the app section is kind of appropriate. Back on topic please.

[wastedyuthe]

Ok people. I have had to remove quite a few posts on here now, because some are getting a little heated. Let's keep this calm and discuss like the grown ups we are. I want this thread to stay open so we can see how the poll progresses. Thank you.

[games42]

well like i predicted, this poll didn't start off on the right foot....it's like judging a deer in a lions den :rolleyes:

[Tavoss]

Hey all,

I'm on this forum nearly every day while I'm at work, just cruising. Right now, when I jump on the forum, I have to wade past the promo threads before I get to any game news or discussion. Its just annoying.

I don't think they should be banned though! I think they are great advertising for the smaller developers! I just believe they should have their own forum. While there are plenty of arguments for them having their own forum, there aren't any I can think of to keep them in with the regular gaming forum. If they have their own, then they can still be accessed by all who want them, and can be easily ignored by those who don't.... so whats question then in making a decision?

[pablo19]

There is a problem here people think we don't want promo code threads WE DO! we just want them in a different sub-forum. some people seem not to get that

[rootbeersoup]

I'd like to propose a "Developer Promotions" forum for devs to make threads about promo codes, advertisements for their games (ONE thread per game obviously), and threads about upcoming games

EDIT: Also, each thread could be labeled as such with a prefix, like PROMO CODES: UPCOMING TITLE: etc

[Herp]

Yes, they aren't a discussion of any app in particular. They're just a promotion of said app.

[costanza]

I'd like to propose a "Developer Promotions" forum for devs to make threads about promo codes, advertisements for their games (ONE thread per game obviously), and threads about upcoming games


yeah, this is exactly what needs to happen.

[arn]

Sorry guys. Been busy with Macworld all week. Been a bit out of touch.

Agree with general sentiment. Promo code giveaways are hurting the usefulness of the main discussion forums.

I think intricate contests or forum member (non developer) giveaways are just adding noise, and not much signal. I went through and closed a bunch that seemed to be over anyway.

We'll reassess what rules to be put into place to fix it.

arn

[dannys95]

Sorry guys. Been busy with Macworld all week. Been a bit out of touch.

Agree with general sentiment. Promo code giveaways are hurting the usefulness of the main discussion forums.

I think intricate contests or forum member (non developer) giveaways are just adding noise, and not much signal. I went through and closed a bunch that seemed to be over anyway.

We'll reassess what rules to be put into place to fix it.

arn

and new mod's would not hurt. ;)
welcome back buddy!

[BulletDev]

Well the reason these contests are posted in the games section is because you get more exposure there.

[THEDeliriumTrigger]

Ok, so i voted that there SHOULD be a sub forum for these threads, just to reduce the clutter. But one thing that i think needs to be emphasized is that it is required that you pm the codes, as i know people have just posted them. Also, if a person wins a contest/ posts first in the thread they should be subject to a background check (going to their profile and looking at the quality of their posts) to assure they arent lurkers. I only suggest this because i know that some people just starting to post here may not have a lot of posts, but are genuinely interested in this site. I dont think that is too complicated a thing to do, unless of course its a huge giveaway, but that doesnt happen often.

[BulletDev]

Ok, so i voted that there SHOULD be a sub forum for these threads, just to reduce the clutter. But one thing that i think needs to be emphasized is that it is required that you pm the codes, as i know people have just posted them. Also, if a person wins a contest/ posts first in the thread they should be subject to a background check (going to their profile and looking at the quality of their posts) to assure they arent lurkers. I only suggest this because i know that some people just starting to post here may not have a lot of posts, but are genuinely interested in this site. I dont think that is too complicated a thing to do, unless of course its a huge giveaway, but that doesnt happen often.

Agreed. Please arn, let's see this happen.

[Zetaspawn]

I'd like to propose a "Developer Promotions" forum for devs to make threads about promo codes, advertisements for their games (ONE thread per game obviously), and threads about upcoming games

EDIT: Also, each thread could be labeled as such with a prefix, like PROMO CODES: UPCOMING TITLE: etc
I don't think it really needs to be overcomplicated. Just simply a place for promo giveaways and anything focused on promos of any kind. Could be a good place to just advertise an app without fear of a banhammer and not necesarily requiring a promo giveaway. I dunno. Either way it definately needs it's own dedicated space.

Promos are dead, long live promos.

[pante]

1) separate forum
2) every post should be labeled PROMO CODES: TITLE.
3) promo codes only send via pm or e-mail.
4) only for senior members.

:)

[Everydaynormalguy]

Personally I like the first two points I suggested in this post (http://forums.toucharcade.com/showpost.php?p=55817&postcount=3) as it would have prevented all of the crap that went out yesterday from existing in the first place. I don't think a separate forum is the best idea, it's just too much work that can be solved by just cracking down on spam.

[Carlos-Sz]

Personally I like the first two points I suggested in this post (http://forums.toucharcade.com/showpost.php?p=55817&postcount=3) as it would have prevented all of the crap that went out yesterday from existing in the first place. I don't think a separate forum is the best idea, it's just too much work that can be solved by just cracking down on spam.

I agree with the following idea:

...
Only the developer or representative of that game can issue promo codes, not regular members.
...


If you get a code just PM a friend or go to Lounge board make fun out of it.

[jawslover]

voted yes :D

[costanza]

Maybe we can have one stickied thread in the promo code section for regular members to hand out spare codes they may have gotten. Anything else gets locked.

[Zetaspawn]

1) separate forum
2) every post should be labeled PROMO CODES: TITLE.
3) promo codes only send via pm or e-mail.
4) only for senior members.

:)
I dunno about all that. Promo codes are great. Overcomplicating things would not help it flourish. I think stuff like this is getting too picky. If the devs have to follow all sorts of super picky rules then they just won't do it. And that's not what we want.
We need a dedicated space. That's all. It gives everone a place to go where everyone knows promos are the focus and it gives others a breather from all the promo threads. Giving it it's own space should help. Not hinder.

[rootbeersoup]

It's not that it would be overcomplicated, it's just that simply a promo code forum is wayyyyyy too simple and would becom a mess in a few days

[field5]

Personally I like the first two points I suggested in this post (http://forums.toucharcade.com/showpost.php?p=55817&postcount=3) as it would have prevented all of the crap that went out yesterday from existing in the first place. I don't think a separate forum is the best idea, it's just too much work that can be solved by just cracking down on spam.

well I see that you used my promo contest as an example to talk about "all the promo crap"...so if and when I ever do give more codes out...I wouldn't want to bother you with all of the "crap" as you put it so don't bother participating.

[rootbeersoup]

well I see that you used my promo contest as an example to talk about "all the promo crap"...so if and when I ever do give more codes out...I wouldn't want to bother you with all of the "crap" as you put it so don't bother participating.

Is it unfathomable to make a generalizing broadsweeping statement about promo code threads in general? I'm sorry if yours is of so much higher quality than all of the other promo code threads but please try to empathize with us, as we are all frustrated with it.

[field5]

Is it unfathomable to make a generalizing broadsweeping statement about promo code threads in general? I'm sorry if yours is of so much higher quality than all of the other promo code threads but please try to empathize with us, as we are all frustrated with it.

Well in his "generalized broadsweeping statement"...he specifically linked my post...I understand the frustrations but I don't think it's right to throw it back in my face the way he did saying it was crap...after all I do is share my codes with u guys...would u give a code to someone who did that after u try to be generous?!?

[rootbeersoup]

Well in his "generalized broadsweeping statement"...he specifically linked my post...I understand the frustrations but I don't think it's right to throw it back in my face the way he did saying it was crap...after all I do is share my codes with u guys...would u give a code to someone who did that after u try to be generous?!?

Well uhh dude, you basically started a thread that induced spam... That's a fail in my book

[wastedyuthe]

OK, I think EDNG linked that thread as an example. Before we get into an argument about that particular thread, let's get back onto the discussion- about these threads in genereal, not specific ones. Thanks.

[field5]

Well uhh dude, you basically started a thread that induced spam... That's a fail in my book

well make sure you add to "your book" to not bother asking me for codes

[spmwinkel]

Asking for codes is forbidden in the rules anyway...

[superbad]

Asking for codes is forbidden in the rules anyway...

not if the developer offers first aka the dev promo code threads.

---according to arn

[field5]

Asking for codes is forbidden in the rules anyway...

I meant they shouldn't participate in any if my future contests