Phoenix Wright is out! [Japanese version only]

[don_k]

The Phoenix Wright series has done some fantastic business on DS. The mixture of cheeky humour and slightly maddening detective work struck a rare note with a worldwide audience.

Now it's made the logical transition to iPhone - though only in Japan for now.

http://www.pocketgamer.co.uk/r/iPhone/Phoenix+Wright+%28iPhone%29/news.asp?c=17480

[ImNoSuperMan]

iTunes Link???

[idrisguitar]

you have to have wifi to play?

wow........no way. stupid.

id rather a 2 gig download than that. plus it sounds like they are going to milk every penny out of you, with (probably) tiny episodes release regularly. this is now off my list :(, and i was so excited for it.

looks like i will just have to get a cheap DS down the line if i want to play this game, as this appstore version looks to have massacred the game totally and utterly.

[ImNoSuperMan]

Found the japanese link..

http://itunes.apple.com/jp/app/id340378081?mt=8

The game is definitely there.

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/5245/picture6hn.png

[rein]

I'm ok with the episodic content but streaming the data just seems weird for a single player game.

[thewiirocks]

you have to have wifi to play?

wow........no way. stupid.

I agree with this part. That strikes me as penny-wise, pound foolish. The game fit on a DS cart. It can't be THAT big.

id rather a 2 gig download than that. plus it sounds like they are going to milk every penny out of you, with (probably) tiny episodes release regularly. this is now off my list :(, and i was so excited for it.

looks like i will just have to get a cheap DS down the line if i want to play this game, as this appstore version looks to have massacred the game totally and utterly.

Keep in mind that used Phoenix Wright games do not lose their value. Trying to obtain a used copy can easily run you $30+. In the face of such prices, being nickeled and dimed might not be so bad.
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[h1976]

Wow I was expecting like 5 bucks, but 115yen?
That's a buck!

[k1zuna]

wow I need to get this right NOW

[Valaris]

I hope the streaming thing is fixed for the NA release. Not every country has the amazing internet infrastructure Japan has.

[idrisguitar]

Keep in mind that used Phoenix Wright games do not lose their value. Trying to obtain a used copy can easily run you $30+. In the face of such prices, being nickeled and dimed might not be so bad.

i want this game, badly, if anything the 0.99 price makes me upset rather than happy as i know for a fact it will be a mutilated version of the game.

i would pay $20-30 for it if it was a fully working, full content, full everything that worked perfectly on ipod.

[salsamd]

http://toucharcade.com/2009/12/03/objection-phoenix-wright-coming-to-iphone/


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[tonyunreal]

Wow I was expecting like 5 bucks, but 115yen?
That's a buck!
You only get the first chapter for 115yen, the second chapter is an in-app purchase which costs 230yen, more chapters will be added in the future through updates.

Pretty lame strategy if you ask me, especially with the requirement of wifi/3g connection to play the game.

[S.I.D. CrAzY]

Wow, wifi is required to play this? Looks like I won't be buying it, taking this off my list. What a disappointment, then again it is Capcom.

[SarcasticGamer]

This is another sad proof that big game co's like Capcom, Sega, Square Enix and Namco don't take the platform seriously! I got excited over this for nothing! This is just a re-hash of the Java version that is released about a 2 or 3 years ago! Damn it!

[MidianGTX]

Lame. I never got around to properly playing any of the Phoenix Wright games on DS, had this been a proper game I would have jumped at the chance to finally give it a go. As it is now... not interested.

[tonyunreal]

Wow, wifi is required to play this? Looks like I won't be buying it, taking this off my list. What a disspointment, then again it is Capcom.
Oops..I meant internet connection, sorry. I guess it works with a 3G connection too, but the point is, the game is not playable offline.

[idrisguitar]

Glad you know that without playing it.

sorry my opinion.

also my opinion comes from info that this game is split into chaptes.

therefore i do know they are going the dlc route and not giving us a full game.

therefore when I say mutiliated its is my opinion that a game like phoenix wright is being spoon fed through wifi only small chapters. is that better?

because this still sucks, and its still a massive dissapointment, will not be buying this.

[S.I.D. CrAzY]

Oops..I meant internet connection, sorry. I guess it works with a 3G connection too, but the point is, the game is not playable offline.

Either way, I have an iPod so 3G isn't an option. Really don't see why it needs to be online in the first place. Maybe they'll change it when it releases everywhere else? I doubt it.

[tblrsa]

Is there a gameplay video of the japanese iphone version? If it plays the same as the DS Version, i might still buy it. Although streaming content sucks.

[zachattacksox]

I think this will rely heavily on DLC. So in the end it could end up costing you $10-$20. And you need an internet connection to play it? What about ipod touches? You just killed at least half of your potential customers. How stupid can you be?

[MidianGTX]

I think this will rely heavily on DLC. So in the end it could end up costing you $10-$20. And you need an internet connection to play it? What about ipod touches? You just killed at least half of your potential customers. How stupid can you be?

A good number of iPod Touch owners have wifi, that's why they bought an iPod Touch... anyone who bought one without any wifi access at all is an idiot, it makes the device useless.

But yeah... this sales strategy still sucks.

[tblrsa]

I don't care about expensive DLC, this game is easily worth it, as long as Capcom doesn't dare to come up with a cheap quality version. I expect DS Gameplay at the very least.

[MidianGTX]

I don't care for expensive DLC, this game is easily worth it, as long as Capcom doesn't dare to come up with a cheap quality version. I expect DS Gameplay at the very least.

Congrats on reading:
This is just a re-hash of the Java version that is released about a 2 or 3 years ago! Damn it!

[zachattacksox]

A good number of iPod Touch owners have wifi, that's why they bought an iPod Touch... an
yone who bought one without any wifi access at all is an idiot, it makes the device useless.

But yeah... this sales strategy still sucks.

I was thinking that people would use their ipod on the go. Not necessarily in wifi locations.

[tblrsa]

Congrats on reading:
Quote:
Originally Posted by SarcasticGamer View Post
This is just a re-hash of the Java version that is released about a 2 or 3 years ago! Damn it!


Says who, his crystal ball? Has he taken a look at the japanese version? I hold my horses until i actually get to see a gameplay video. :)

[Valaris]

A good number of iPod Touch owners have wifi, that's why they bought an iPod Touch... anyone who bought one without any wifi access at all is an idiot, it makes the device useless.

But yeah... this sales strategy still sucks.

Get back to me when city buses, you know, where a lot of people spend of their Ipod touch gaming time, have wifi access :(

[MidianGTX]

Get back to me when city buses, you know, where a lot of people spend of their Ipod touch gaming time, have wifi access :(

...and how do they get the games onto the iPod Touch? I'm not saying they never take it places without wifi, I'm saying any intelligent person would have reasonably fast and easy access to wifi if they wanted to buy a device that required wifi to do anything decent.

[MidianGTX]

Says who, his crystal ball? Has he taken a look at the japanese version? I hold my horses until i actually get to see a gameplay video. :)

I guess I assumed he looked at these, but I personally don't know which version they're from since I haven't played any:

http://forums.toucharcade.com/picture.php?albumid=263&pictureid=2747 http://forums.toucharcade.com/picture.php?albumid=263&pictureid=2748 http://forums.toucharcade.com/picture.php?albumid=263&pictureid=2749 http://forums.toucharcade.com/picture.php?albumid=263&pictureid=2750 http://forums.toucharcade.com/picture.php?albumid=263&pictureid=2751

[tblrsa]

Well, we´ll hopefully see some gameplay videos pop up on youtube in the coming hours/days. Capcom doesn´t provide a video on their site, shame on them. The pictures do look pretty similar to the DS Version though, except it didn´t have those orange buttons.

[SarcasticGamer]

Says who, his crystal ball? Has he taken a look at the japanese version? I hold my horses until i actually get to see a gameplay video. :)

Yes, it is re-hash of the java version! The java version also IS episodic but even better it doesnt need wifi to finish the episode! Seriously do you really care about the graphics on a Phoenix wright game?

[idrisguitar]

whoever said people who buy ipod touched without wifi are stupid, is stupid. (cant be bothered to find and quote the post)

"how do they get apps" um.................pc sync!!! and guess what, you do the same for updating apps......guess what....a pc+usb cable can also be used to music videos and podcasts too.

i never use wifi myself, not interested in multiplayer, and other than that there is no drawback. (and no i dont like tap tap revenge ;))

surfing web, and appstore i would rather do on my pc. (and considering i can only get wifi in my house anyway, its more practical to just sit down on the pc than use my ipod, with its inferior mobile browser.

hope this has opened your mind to the fact that not everyone is a wifi maniac ;)

and thus, this is why the game will be unplayable for me,

[MidianGTX]

whoever said people who buy ipod touched without wifi are stupid, is stupid. (cant be bothered to find and quote the post)

"how do they get apps" um.................pc sync!!! and guess what, you do the same for updating apps......guess what....a pc+usb cable can also be used to music videos and podcasts too.

i never use wifi myself, not interested in multiplayer, and other than that there is no drawback. (and no i dont like tap tap revenge ;))

surfing web, and appstore i would rather do on my pc. (and considering i can only get wifi in my house anyway, its more practical to just sit down on the pc than use my ipod, with its inferior mobile browser.

hope this has opened your mind to the fact that not everyone is a wifi maniac ;)

and thus, this is why the game will be unplayable for me,

You have a point, but wifi is fast becoming standard these days, your PC should be on a wifi connection itself. There's no huge reason not to have it, it's just ease of use. I've got 3 PCs, two laptops, a macbook, an iPod, a 360, PS3, Wii, Nintendo DS and my Blu-ray player all connected with little to no effort at all. People need wifi!

[Bdragonst]

I guess I assumed he looked at these, but I personally don't know which version they're from since I haven't played any:

http://forums.toucharcade.com/picture.php?albumid=263&pictureid=2747 http://forums.toucharcade.com/picture.php?albumid=263&pictureid=2748 http://forums.toucharcade.com/picture.php?albumid=263&pictureid=2749 http://forums.toucharcade.com/picture.php?albumid=263&pictureid=2750 http://forums.toucharcade.com/picture.php?albumid=263&pictureid=2751
Its the first one, second episode.... I played it back in 2001 when it first came out on gba in japan... Since then i played 2, 3, 4, gyakuten keiji, and so on lol

[SarcasticGamer]

You have a point, but wifi is fast becoming standard these days, your PC should be on a wifi connection itself. There's no huge reason not to have it, it's just ease of use. I've got 3 PCs, two laptops, a macbook, an iPod, a 360, PS3, Wii, Nintendo DS and my Blu-ray player all connected with little to no effort at all. People need wifi!

I usually play games on my way to work and there is no wifi on the bus! I'm screwed!

[MidianGTX]

I usually play games on my way to work and there is no wifi on the bus! I'm screwed!

I did admit it was crappy game design :p

[Bdragonst]

It suks when im japanese, have a
japanese itune account, but dont have money in that account...

[arta]

Wifi tethered = worst idea ever.

[pen_sq]

So, should we take up a collection to send Capcom a $99 native SDK? Making a portable game system unplayable outside of your home Wifi is about as handy as a portable Commodore (http://oldcomputers.net/sx64.html). I'm sure the genius that came up with this figures it'll totally avoid piracy, I bet it'll do one better for sales, also.

[madam_octa]

This wifi thing is completely ridiculous, I was really looking forward to this(played all of the pw games on ds) but I won't buy it if wifi is necessary to play

[Somerandomdude]

It's not out in any other countries yet... CRAP!

And what's up with the Wifi thing Capcom? Half the reason I love PW so much is that it can be played anywhere. Doe you download the episodes, then keep them on the iDevice or do you play them off the internet? If the second option, seems a bit strange.

And only a buck?! Woot!

[MasterChief3624]

It's not out in any other countries yet... CRAP!

And what's up with the Wifi thing Capcom? Half the reason I love PW so much is that it can be played anywhere. Doe you download the episodes, then keep them on the iDevice or do you play them off the internet? If the second option, seems a bit strange.

And only a buck?! Woot!
I'm really hoping it downloads to the iDevice. If not.... :(

[Somerandomdude]

I'm really hoping it downloads to the iDevice. If not.... :(

Yeah, if not I might stick to getting the DS ones. But for a buck? I might live with it for that price. I mostly play at my house and other places that have Wifi, and I could play other games while away. But that's half of what made PW on the DS so addicting, is that you can play it any time you want.

[tumbleninah]

i played phoenix wright on the ds...not that special...and this looks like they've messed up...oh well...one to cross off the list...:eek:

[sam the lion]

i played phoenix wright on the ds...not that special...

you're crazy!

[Negamaki]

i played phoenix wright on the ds...not that special...and this looks like they've messed up...oh well...one to cross off the list...:eek:

objection!

[Somerandomdude]

i played phoenix wright on the ds...not that special...and this looks like they've messed up...oh well...one to cross off the list...:eek:

I OBJECT TO THIS STATEMENT! PW is the best DS game ever made... even better than The World Ends With You... I don't get how anyone could utter such CRAP!

Yeah, I like Phoenix Wright. Alot.

[tumbleninah]

sorry dudes...:p...i whip you with my whip for your objection.........;)

[idrisguitar]

I OBJECT TO THIS STATEMENT! PW is the best DS game ever made... even better than The World Ends With You... I don't get how anyone could utter such CRAP!

Yeah, I like Phoenix Wright. Alot.

its comments like this that make me desperate to play it. thats why im so dissapointed that
a DS is needed for this to truly happen.

stupid capcom

[ikemike]

I OBJECT TO THIS STATEMENT! PW is the best DS game ever made... even better than The World Ends With You... I don't get how anyone could utter such CRAP!

Yeah, I like Phoenix Wright. Alot.

They're in totally different genres, and are both probably the best games in their genre and platform. Please don't compare them. It pains me to see one great game boosted over the other. In the end it only depends on which genre you prefer.

[Yixian]

Any ETA on EU and US release?

[Somerandomdude]

They're in totally different genres, and are both probably the best games in their genre and platform. Please don't compare them. It pains me to see one great game boosted over the other. In the end it only depends on which genre you prefer.

Oh I didn't really mean it that way, I was just saying how much I like the game, since for a long time TWEWY was my favorite DS game. I'm not even a huge fan of the other games like PW, I just think it just has such great writing and gameplay that it really is the best.

[ultimo]

I think this is like a mmorpg with grafix PpL

[tblrsa]

Any ETA on EU and US release?

I honestly can´t wait for this. Phoenix Wright is not for everyone, as it contains lots of text, but if you are a sucker for this kind of games you really get your moneys worth. Besides, i´m a law student myself, so i just have to grab this cheesy game. Screw this, i´ll buy it even if Capcom decides to stream the Case Files, although there is really no good reason to do this besides combating piracy.

[Yixian]

It's not the best adventure series of all time, but it's one of them. I cannot wait!!!

[Bdragonst]

it's more lika detective type of game..

[Terribad]

Relax guys, the official site says you download the entire episode before playing so it doesn't look like it depends on the internet connection at all times (only when you first begin a new episode).

Not a big deal.

[Yixian]

This being capcom we might have quite a wait...

[tblrsa]

Relax guys, the official site says you download the entire episode before playing so it doesn't look like it depends on the internet connection at all times (only when you first begin a new episode).

Not a big deal.

Ah, so it only does a one time download per case, this shouldn´t be a problem. No japanese people in here who are playing it already?

[tblrsa]

Gameplay Video out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paw3Jnav6_0

[Somerandomdude]

Ah, so it only does a one time download per case, this shouldn´t be a problem. No japanese people in here who are playing it already?

Well considering it's a one time download, I like the system. While a bit of a hassle, it prevents piracy in the longrun. Maybe more devs should look into this.

AND I WANT THIS IN AMERICA!!!!

[tblrsa]

I doubt it really prevents piracy. You could easily grab the downloaded case files and backup them, if you are using a jailbroken phone.

[jonlink]

It looks like they might be using the oldest trick in the drug dealer book. Raising the price as you go. The first case is ¥115, but the second is ¥230, and 3-5 are "not decided."

From the above you might have also concluded (rightly) that you can only buy the first two cases right now. The rest are supposed to be out in January.

I might buy it, but I'll wait until the prices are set and then decide.



ps. whoever said that ¥115 is $1 is wrong. It is about $1.25, and that is only because the yen has been sucking bad since the end of November.

[Chaosprower]

It looks like they might be using the oldest trick in the drug dealer book. Raising the price as you go. The first case is ¥115, but the second is ¥230, and 3-5 are "not decided."

Keep in mind that the first chapter is shorter than the rest because it's some sort of "introduction/tutorial" so it's logical that it's cheaper than the second chapter.

[jonlink]

Keep in mind that the first chapter is shorter than the rest because it's some sort of "introduction/tutorial" so it's logical that it's cheaper than the second chapter.

I'm fine with that if that is the case. The lack of pricing details for the rest is what has me concerned. Why not say how much they'll cost?

[Deewin]

instant buy

[Noah]

They do the WiFi/3G thing to keep the MB under 10... that way people can download the game without being on WiFi (can use 3G cellular network instead).

[LosBadylos]

Any news on english version or details about that WiFi stupid idea? Connection is needed just to download something from Capcom servers and then we can play offline, or is it necessary to be connected all the time?
I played all of Phoenix Wright games, and i just cant wait to have them on my iPhone. But why, why those ideas of WiFi and DLC have to be in THAT game?
They should just release a whole, full game. I dont mind even if its 30 bucks.
Sorry for my poor English :<

[jonlink]

Just a tiny update, I was reading some of the reviews in the Japanese Store and it seems that there isn't any auto-save. That sounds too stupid to be true, but then again...

[Bdragonst]

Just a tiny update, I was reading some of the reviews in the Japanese Store and it seems that there isn't any auto-save. That sounds too stupid to be true, but then again...

it's just like GBA/DS versions.

[jonlink]

it's just like GBA/DS versions.

Except you can't get a phone call on your DS.... :rolleyes:

[Yixian]

Grr where the hell is this in EU/US stores?

[LosBadylos]

Any news on English version of Phoenix Wright? I was really excited, that it was coming to the iDevices users, but now, after hearing about WiFi I started to doubt that it will ever hit non-Japanese Appstores :/.
I love this series, and now is great time to release it in English, because in two days English version of Gyakuten Kenji (Ace Attorney Investigations) will be releasesd.

[KGameLover1]

Any news on English version of Phoenix Wright? I was really excited, that it was coming to the iDevices users, but now, after hearing about WiFi I started to doubt that it will ever hit non-Japanese Appstores :/.
I love this series, and now is great time to release it in English, because in two days English version of Gyakuten Kenji (Ace Attorney Investigations) will be releasesd.

OMG so excited for Investigations!

I played the demo and it was AWESOME!

[LosBadylos]

OMG so excited for Investigations!

I played the demo and it was AWESOME!

I think they should release it on the iPhone along with the DS version :/

[Chocolate]

Except you can't get a phone call on your DS.... :rolleyes:

I can't get a phone call on my iPod Touch either.

(not normally)

[james145]

Could someone please tell me the order of the Phoenix Wright games, (Justice for all and ace attorney) and Apollo Justice (ace attorney )sould be played in.
I am only new to them so which one do i start with or doesn't it matter which order that they are played in??
Please advise me

[spacecowgoesmoo]

1 - Ace Attorney (this is the one now on iPhone)
2 - Justice for All
3 - Trials and Tribulations
4 - Apollo Justice
5 - Investigations

It's a lot easier to keep track of the names in the original versions: Gyakuten Saiban 1234, Gyakuten Kenji :P



It's VERY important to play them all in order; there's new recurring characters added, major character development, cases building off of previous ones from old games, etc. The games are technically all standalone, but they're 100x better if you play them in order.

[Electrolite82]

Just seen this!!http://www.slidetoplay.com/story/exclusive-phoenix-wright-hands-on-video

[Somerandomdude]

HOLY CRAP! It's actually coming to America!! I couldn't be happier!!! I thought they completely ditched this game!

Yeah, I overreacted a bit... I'm a HUGE PW fan.

[goiMot]

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[Somerandomdude]

So, any guesses as to how much longer until it hits the states? I'm saying a week or so. It shouldn't take much longer than that seeing as it's already in the Japanese store. And it looks pretty complete as is. They already have the English script from the DS version, all they need to do is port it over to the iPhone, so I'm saying a week or less.

[bmn0210]

Having it download parts of the game from a server as needed is not a bad idea, but the execution in this case is one of the poorest I've ever heard of, especially since this game would lend itself so well to a much better and more natural implementation. Phoenix Wright is split into 5 episodes, each having 4-6 chapters - the most natural and intuitive way to handle this would have been to have the game download only the chapter the player is currently playing, and possibly the next one, with maybe the option to download an entire episode if the player isn't going to be able to get online for a long time (e.g. they're going overseas with a non-jailbroken iPhone). It would make far more sense than the retarded system they have now, would be much more convenient for everyone, and would integrate more easily with their DLC system.

Things like this boggle my mind, they really do. Even if they wanted to have a system that "micro-managed" downloads as they're doing (probably just to show they can, as a proof-of-concept), why not at least give people the option to download a full chapter? Do Capcom actually WANT people to pirate their games? Why are they going out of their way to give potential customers no other choice if they want to play their game offline?

I utterly hate piracy, but cases like this make me somewhat glad app crackers and places like App*****r exist, since they're the only way a lot of people are going to be able to enjoy this game properly.

[Electrolite82]

ADPodolsky Yesterday
OK. Well I saw this played on an iPod Touch with no active internet connection (far as I could tell) so I am hoping they all come packaged with the initial download of the US version.

[Electrolite82]

ADPodolsky Yesterday
OK. Well I saw this played on an iPod Touch with no active internet connection (far as I could tell) so I am hoping they all come packaged with the initial download of the US version.

Seen this on Slide to play website!!Hoping Capcom have seen the light and made this game download not over wifi!:-)

[Electrolite82]

Where the Heck is this game?!!!!