c, or c++?

[ktfright]

to learn obj-c, i need either to start making a game. which should i start with. all i know is simple java, very basic!!! no one has given:( a straight answer.

[BulletDev]

I took a different path then you, but I think you should start learning C++. It may be a challenge, but it won't take much afterwards.

[ktfright]

did you have any past experience with c++, and do you have any tips for a new dev like me?

[brewstermax]

did you have any past experience with c++, and do you have any tips for a new dev like me?

I'm not an iPhone dev, but I tried to learn C#, and it was a horrible experience. I haven't looked at C++, I know that it is far more common, but just play with the SDK, and see what you can do. C++, and some books looks to be the way to start.

[PoV]

no one has given a straight answer.
Well, this isn't any more straight. Both.

Generally speaking, C will give you a better understanding of what you're doing with the computer and compiler. C++ will give you conceptual tools to work with said things "better". I put that in quotes since C++ can be a "can of worms" for some people.

If your goal is iPhone, you'll likely do yourself best starting with C and ObjC, since C++ is a third wheel at this stage. An understanding of pointers and memory is essential for working with OpenGL, and many API's.

[Wegmans]

I got a C+ in AP Comp Sci... if that's any help..

[jonaswills]

If you just learn C your going to miss out on the whole object oriented programming stuff... which is a big part of the SDK, I would say go with C for a bit to learn about code logic and pointers and such, then learn Obj-C or C++ for a bit concentrating on objects... try to learn the distinction between programming without objects and programming with them... it's easy to get confused when starting out.

[Andres]

I'm currently reading How To Program: introducing c++ and java third eddition my older brother recomended it to me to start out , he said he'd help me learn to program and understand how to use c++ after and during the time I read the book. Now I'm not sure but would a computer engineer know how to make games using c++ cuz if they can it won't be too hard for me to learn since he's a computer engineer. But even if I do learn I have chosen to wait two years since 1) I'm underage and can't use my own name2) I have to wait till I work to buy my own mac.