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Nightmoore
02-20-2009, 04:59 PM
I notice that an admin locks all the threads for DEVs getting together to recruit or simply ask for help finding programmers/designers. I don't understand....why is this a bad thing? You can't exactly find iPhone dev work on Craig's List!!!

Can we have an area setup on the boards where we CAN talk to other people about work needed for projects? There is obviously a NEED for this type of interation. Is there another site we should be using for this form of communication?

Not to ruffle any feathers here (because I love this site), but as a web designer myself....this is good traffic. And it could lead to something much bigger in the DEV community. Wouldn't it be wonderful to have toucharcade.com be THE hotspot for game DEVs to find each other rather than it be forbidden?

Nightmooore
www.pixelshock.com (http://www.pixelshock.com)

1337brian
02-20-2009, 05:04 PM
I notice that an admin locks all the threads for DEVs getting together to recruit or simply ask for help finding programmers/designers. I don't understand....why is this a bad thing? You can't exactly find iPhone dev work on Craig's List!!!

Can we have an area setup on the boards where we CAN talk to other people about work needed for projects? There is obviously a NEED for this type of interation. Is there another site we should be using for this form of communication?

Not to ruffle any feathers here (because I love this site), but as a web designer myself....this is good traffic. And it could lead to something much bigger in the DEV community. Wouldn't it be wonderful to have toucharcade.com be THE hotspot for game DEVs to find each other rather than it be forbidden?

Nightmooore
www.pixelshock.com (http://www.pixelshock.com)

iPhone/iPod touch game developers. If you feel you qualify, simply private message Zandog with your qualifications. Zandog is PR/Graphic Designer for Spiffcode Inc (Warfare Inc).

He's in charge of admitting the dev's into the locked threads... Just PM him

lithiastudios
02-20-2009, 05:07 PM
iPhone/iPod touch game developers. If you feel you qualify, simply private message Zandog with your qualifications. Zandog is PR/Graphic Designer for Spiffcode Inc (Warfare Inc).

He's in charge of admitting the dev's into the locked threads... Just PM him

If we're just limiting that private forum to devs, it makes it hard to solicit work for graphics/sound/etc. from the non-dev community.

I'll second a request for a help wanted/collaboration wanted subforum..

1337brian
02-20-2009, 05:14 PM
If we're just limiting that private forum to devs, it makes it hard to solicit work for graphics/sound/etc. from the non-dev community.

I'll second a request for a help wanted/collaboration wanted subforum..

Well we are in the proper forum for that right now, But I'm pretty sure that the dev's themselves would post if they needed anything in that respect. Keep in mind anything you post in the Iphone dev forum (Which we are in currently) will most likely be read and reponded on by the dev's themselves. Just give it some time...
The locked forum is strictly for them to discuss any programming techniques or other things that they talk about... Not sure really as I'm not a real dev, just a wannabe until I get some schooling...

InsertWittyName
02-20-2009, 07:25 PM
A fair few affluent developers hang about on #iphonedev on freenode.net IRC.

arn
02-20-2009, 07:50 PM
I notice that an admin locks all the threads for DEVs getting together to recruit or simply ask for help finding programmers/designers. I don't understand....why is this a bad thing?

Hi,

It's not a bad thing perse, but it's a more commercial side of posts that will result in more moderation requirements, so we've been cautious about it.

If we allow it, we would open up a special forum. But I mean, do we just allow personal recruitment? Or do we allow headhunters/commercial sites? Can you post any developer services? Can you sell iPhones? Viagra? :)

I guess we just need a coherent set of rules before opening it up.

arn

jonaswills
02-20-2009, 07:56 PM
Check out gamdev.net and maybe http://forums.indiegamer.com/

Also, IDGA( http://www.igda.org/ ) has meetups in different states which are great, we met a lot of people in CO that want to get into iPhone development, lots of opportunities.

1337brian
02-20-2009, 09:23 PM
I think the Dev forum should be just for the actual dev's themselves, like I said, I'm sure if they needed a service (music/graphics/coding) they would post in this forum requesting it, I think arn's right, we don't need a bunch of people flooding the dev's with "ANYONE NEED A PROGRAMMER?! threads etc.
Let the dev's do what they want, when they need beta testers and stuff they let us know, I don't think it would be any different with other services they would request of the community. Now making another Forum thread similar to the dev's thread could always be a hypothetical solution. But remember any member is free to create a social group for whatever purpose they choose.

Nightmoore
02-20-2009, 10:13 PM
Thanks for the input from the admin....greatly appreciated.

I think some of you are missing the point. The "Devs" are regular people. We're not talking about massive game-studios here (obviously nobody from E.A. is hanging out here), so we're talking about bringing talent together to make projects....small studios or one-man development.

Yes, I understand that there would have to be some guidelines. We don't want people spamming services here that aren't related to iPhone/iTouch software. But I'm seeing responses recommending chat channels to find people. That obviously means there's no place on the web yet that has found the "niche" for this need.

While I'm no programmer, I do know how the design world works. Sites like www.cgsociety.org and www.zbrushcentral.com bring digital artists together and even open up job opportunities within the industry. The iPhone gaming platform NEEDS this. If touchArcade doesn't take advantage of that, someone else quickly will.

lithiastudios
02-20-2009, 10:39 PM
Hi,
If we allow it, we would open up a special forum. But I mean, do we just allow personal recruitment? Or do we allow headhunters/commercial sites? Can you post any developer services? Can you sell iPhones? Viagra? :)

I guess we just need a coherent set of rules before opening it up.

arn

IMHO, a relatively easy/clear way would be just to allow personal recruitment amongst the TouchArcade community. So TA artists/musicians/etc. can advertise their services and TA devs can advertise a need for such services.

arn
02-20-2009, 11:06 PM
I think some of you are missing the point. The "Devs" are regular people. We're not talking about massive game-studios here (obviously nobody from E.A. is hanging out here), so we're talking about bringing talent together to make projects....small studios or one-man development.

E.A. is here. :)

http://forums.toucharcade.com/showthread.php?t=5400

While I'm no programmer, I do know how the design world works. Sites like www.cgsociety.org and www.zbrushcentral.com bring digital artists together and even open up job opportunities within the industry. The iPhone gaming platform NEEDS this. If touchArcade doesn't take advantage of that, someone else quickly will.

I'll take a look at those sites.

arn

WellSpentYouth
02-21-2009, 12:11 AM
Thanks for the input from the admin....greatly appreciated.

I think some of you are missing the point. The "Devs" are regular people. We're not talking about massive game-studios here (obviously nobody from E.A. is hanging out here), so we're talking about bringing talent together to make projects....small studios or one-man development.

Yes, I understand that there would have to be some guidelines. We don't want people spamming services here that aren't related to iPhone/iTouch software. But I'm seeing responses recommending chat channels to find people. That obviously means there's no place on the web yet that has found the "niche" for this need.

While I'm no programmer, I do know how the design world works. Sites like www.cgsociety.org and www.zbrushcentral.com bring digital artists together and even open up job opportunities within the industry. The iPhone gaming platform NEEDS this. If touchArcade doesn't take advantage of that, someone else quickly will.
Craig Law is from E.A. :D I am making my first game and think a subforum would be nice. There were a few people offering free services (translating into german and stuff) and I think it would be a great place for people (devs) to talk about business matters. I think the dev discussion should be general stuff like " I heard of this new program" or "Heres a new SDK". I think there should be separate forum for "Are there any graphic designers?" or "Do you need a partner?" and the likes.

This is just my opinion. I am sort of a dev, I am half way through my application, so this is what I would LIKE to see!


Thank you!

mjonesgraphics
02-21-2009, 04:41 PM
AS an artist /designer it would be very handy to have a dedicated spot to look for possible commissions. Some of the other sites can get very non-specific. These forums are iPhone/ipod centric and the "big Boys" are currently thin on the ground.

Much of the appeal of developing for these systems is that small groups can actually compete (in theory) with the larger corporations.

I can see though that head hunters would soon rear their large and shaggy heads. :(

Mark

arn
03-03-2009, 12:35 PM
so, let's see what happens

http://forums.toucharcade.com/forumdisplay.php?f=12

arn

grid
03-03-2009, 04:18 PM
iPhone/iPod touch game developers. If you feel you qualify, simply private message Zandog with your qualifications. Zandog is PR/Graphic Designer for Spiffcode Inc (Warfare Inc).

He's in charge of admitting the dev's into the locked threads... Just PM him

PM sent, but I have to admit that I think it's a bit weird that there are hidden/locked threads. Once I'm admitted to that group, (or whatever), how do I see the them? (I've mostly just been reading the threads that show up on the homepage.)

1337brian
03-05-2009, 01:58 PM
PM sent, but I have to admit that I think it's a bit weird that there are hidden/locked threads. Once I'm admitted to that group, (or whatever), how do I see the them? (I've mostly just been reading the threads that show up on the homepage.)

When your admitted it will show as unlocked I would imagine, I'm not a dev so I'm not permitted, I was just passing on friendly advice...

Zandog
03-05-2009, 03:19 PM
Great advice. Once a developer applies for the developers group, we do a background check on the the items requested in my profiles Msg board, once we review and confirm they are intact a developer, they are invited into the group and then are able to access the private developers forums. To further confirm, we do infact have big studios conversing with smaller indie devs in our group. Whether it's EA, Gameloft, Freeverse or the many one/two man teams. The Touch Arcade brings them together. We don't shut the door on any eligable iGame dev.

lithiastudios
03-05-2009, 03:28 PM
Great advice. Once a developer applies for the developers group, we do a background check on the the items requested in my profiles Msg board, once we review and confirm they are intact a developer, they are invited into the group and then are able to access the private developers forums. To further confirm, we do infact have big studios conversing with smaller indie devs in our group. Whether it's EA, Gameloft, Freeverse or the many one/two man teams. The Touch Arcade brings them together. We don't shut the door on any eligable iGame dev.

Zandog, what's the criteria for being considered a developer? I have a game in progress, but haven't been approved yet (still under development). Do we need a released game?

Thanks!

Zandog
03-05-2009, 04:01 PM
Zandog, what's the criteria for being considered a developer? I have a game in progress, but haven't been approved yet (still under development). Do we need a released game?

Thanks!

Look at my profile page.

gnizama_Mitch
03-05-2009, 04:06 PM
*shakes fist* once our game gets approved in the app store I'll gladly be applying to get into those private forums.

Theo
03-06-2009, 12:18 PM
We don't shut the door on any eligable iGame dev.

Well, looks like there are some other secret rules. I have published a math game on the app store and asked for an invitation to the dev forum with no success so far. I also didn't receive any reply to my last PMs I sent you on Feb 26 and Mar 3... so the door seems pretty closed to me.

InsertWittyName
03-06-2009, 01:08 PM
Well, looks like there are some other secret rules. I have published a math game on the app store and asked for an invitation to the dev forum with no success so far. I also didn't receive any reply to my last PMs I sent you on Feb 26 and Mar 3... so the door seems pretty closed to me.

Ditto for me.

Zandog
03-08-2009, 12:32 PM
Well, looks like there are some other secret rules. I have published a math game on the app store and asked for an invitation to the dev forum with no success so far. I also didn't receive any reply to my last PMs I sent you on Feb 26 and Mar 3... so the door seems pretty closed to me.
Theo. I looked at your math game (http://trilliarden.net/en.html) and it does constitute game. I'm also aware that your working on a SCI-FI RPG and was hoping to get wind of that before sending an official invite your direction. Sticking to my word, I'll send you an invite. I went ahead and looked up your games web page and sent an e-mail to your contact e-mail address. Please reply to it. Almost if not all the game developers in this group have worked on projects with a bit more depth. I look forward to seeing your RPG.
Ditto for me.
I looked in my inbox achieves and don't see any request sent by you. I went ahead and looked up your games web page and sent an e-mail to your inquires e-mail address. Please reply to it.

Developers: Make life easier for me and anyone else that wants to know more about your games. Put who you are and your game's website address in your signature. Please read my profile for required info.

InsertWittyName
03-08-2009, 01:43 PM
I checked my PM Sent Items just to make sure and I sent you a message titled Developer Group on 01-28-2009.

I've also replied to the email you sent.

Thanks for picking up on this Zandog.

Zandog
03-08-2009, 01:57 PM
I checked my PM Sent Items just to make sure and I sent you a message titled Developer Group on 01-28-2009.

I've also replied to the email you sent.

Thanks for picking up on this Zandog.

No bs. I get so many msg, the inbox doesn't allow me to hold them all. If I overlooked your, apologies. Look forward to your e-mail.

Theo
03-08-2009, 02:15 PM
Theo. I looked at your math game (http://trilliarden.net/en.html) and it does constitute game. I'm also aware that your working on a SCI-FI RPG and was hoping to get wind of that before sending an official invite your direction.

Sorry, that wasn't clear to me.


Sticking to my word, I'll send you an invite. I went ahead and looked up your games web page and sent an e-mail to your contact e-mail address. Please reply to it. Almost if not all the game developers in this group have worked on projects with a bit more depth. I look forward to seeing your RPG.

Thanks for the invite! I'm also looking forward to show something of our work in the forums :)