Zen Bound - game commentaries

[NotYou]

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[App Store Link, $4.99 (http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=305199856&mt=8)]

It's finally here.

DESCRIPTION:
Zen Bound is a calm and meditative puzzle game about wrapping wooden sculptures with rope. A game in which a high score is not the goal - instead it is something to focus on and enjoy at your own relaxed pace.

It is a tactile experience: a game of wood, stone and rope with the most beautiful graphics yet seen on the iPhone. The visuals complement the controls to provide interaction that feels natural and comfortable.

A major element of the game is the unique, dusty and soothing down-tempo soundtrack designed and composed by 'Ghost Monkey'. It features binaural processing that creates an enveloping soundscape when headphones are used.

Zen Bound is different - an alternative and subtle gaming experience that is difficult to describe. But in its own small way, it defines what gaming on the iPhone can be.

FEATURES:
- The most beautiful graphics yet seen on the iPhone - 3D models that almost feel 'tangible' in your hand.
- Intuitive and natural multi-touch controls (tilt supported)
- 51 levels included (Tree of Reflection and Tree of Challenge).
- A captivating 22-minute downtempo soundtrack from 'Ghost Monkey'
- Game soundtrack 'Bound' available as a free download to all customers in uncompromising 320kbit MP3 quality
- Touch the 'Secret Exit' button in the main menu to download the free soundtrack.

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Say goodbye to that other horrible thread.

[ibelongintheforums]

Purchased. Any one have questions?

[superbad]

finally! my god. i can now talk about it freely!

[polyplay]

Thanks for a new thread, NotYou.

I'll post some initial impressions shortly for folks who are interested.

[emb531]

Wow...I called it! Downloading in a few...

[Carlos-Sz]

Synching! :)

Update. First impression:

- Fast loading times
- Smooth controls
- Great music
- Perfect sounds
- Awesome interface
- Helpful game progress information

5/5 for sure.

PS: The WOW factor did not allow me to find any issue... Well, maybe there isn't any after all! :)

[Blaqkie]

I just had an orgasm of joy. Thank god it's finally out. Yay!

[wonderva]

light version?

[ibelongintheforums]

Awesome game. Lives up to the hype. I love it. Go download it. Only if you liked zen bondage though.

[McGill]

Now I can sleep...

[Chumbake]

Notyou, good call on the new thread. And the heads up. Getting it. Maybe Sway tomorrow...if all goes well at Apple

[ibelongintheforums]

light version?

It's in the works

[ibelongintheforums]

Great. Game. Go buy it if you liked bondage. Any questions?

[DieseliPhone]

ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED : Hype Met 1000pts.

[Gieve]

AMAZING!!!! better then hyped!!!! you guys should be playing it with headphones.... its nice :) graphics are outstanding, controls are perfect!!!

kill me now, I'm just about as zen as a man can get

[Dio]

Time to go to bed and play Zen Bound..

[polyplay]

This. Is. Beautiful.

[WOW_GEE]

I KNEW IT! FINALLY!

5%!!! 5%!!

(For those of you who don't know what i'm talking about read the last few pages of the Zen Bound megathread below this)

[HardcoreEricXXX]

Oh how I want to blow some money. Temptation must be resisted.

[thinkdontpray]

finally. thank you jesus, now that abomination of a thread will die

suffice to say, downloading now

[wonderva]

ok what the heck.
Ill buy this game and I'll get an itunes gift card later in the week, so i can also get Sway.

[1337brian]

YES! Nice catch! Playing this till bed see you suckers later!!!

*WOOHOO!!!!!!* :D:D:D

[TimothyR]

Ah yes, all nice and dandy. Now for Sway. ;)

[polyplay]

ok what the heck.
Ill buy this game and I'll get an itunes gift card later in the week, so i can also get Sway.

That's the way to do it.

Trust me, if there is anything more satisfying than justified hype, I'd like to know what it is. :)

[Gieve]

God bless Frand!!! and God bless Apple for FINALLY letting us play this drop of pure awesomeness!!!

[TheOZ]

Now lets see if this as relaxing as I've heard it is supposed to be ; )

[polyplay]

"the path upward is lit"

commence drooling.

[superbad]

see the level browser tree??

AH MAZING!!!

when the flower blooms and it spits out gold beams. ORGASM!!!
the responsive lamps. ORGASM

[polyplay]

I hate to do this, I really do, but first two semi-complaints:

The rope is a bit loose at times (although I will probably learn to compensate).

and

I wish the rope wouldn't automatically tie off on the nail when you're finished... sometimes I have more painting to do. Maybe a little button, or a tap to "hammer" the nail with the rope into the object?

[Donburns99]

I'm going to be one with my iDevice for the next few weeks. ^ ^

[Chumbake]

The tree menu rocks. Tilt the iPhone and it reacts to the accelerometer. VERY Polished game. I can't figure out how to shoot yet, but I'm having fun tying up stuff while I wait for enemies to attack!

[GatorDeb]

Just in time to go to work :D

Puzzle Quest 2, Zen Bound, PicGrid... busy night tonight :D

[Justom]

FINALLY! Oh my god I cannot wait for it any longer! Must buy immediately! :)

[your personal robot]

I truelly hate Chillingo for CRAPPY translations.
I already re-transalted Vector Tanks for Peter Hirschbirg into GOOD German.
Same problem with Zen Bound... such a fantastic game gets destroyed by a BAD translation. Could cry.

[iago]

First impressions - does not live up the hype. Nicely done, interesting and very high production value and polish. But let's not kid ourselves, wrapping wooden objects in string does not a fun game make. I'd rather kill Dracula, defend towers, race cars or figure out how to have a frog eat a fly.

It's a great job, but not much of a game or puzzle.

[ibelongintheforums]

The other thread was closed and here are my closing comments.
Maybe apple was waiting for me to hit 1000 posts and I was right. I predicted today.
:p

[russiaone]

I truelly hate Chillingo for CRAPPY translations.
I already re-transalted Vector Tanks for Peter Hirschbirg into GOOD German.
Same problem with Zen Bound... such a fantastic game gets destroyed by a BAD translation. Could cry.

The game is beautiful fun. Translation.

"All your base are belong to us."

That's all I have to say about that. That's a classic line.
I just "played" one "level." It sounded fantastic. I really pay no attention to translation. After playing through Shenmue, nothing offends me.

[ibelongintheforums]

First impressions - does not live up the hype. Nicely done, interesting and very high production value and polish. But let's not kid ourselves, wrapping wooden objects in string does not a fun game make. I'd rather kill Dracula, defend towers, race cars or figure out how to have a frog eat a fly.

It's a great job, but not much of a game or puzzle.

Who predicted there would be guys who did not play bondage but bought it anyways and didn't realize they didn't like these games?

[polyplay]

A quick initial write-up/review for the uninitiated, based on first impressions:

Zen Bound is a sequel to the open-ware "game" Zen Bondage, released for Windows a few years ago. The goal is to cover a wooden object with rope; as you wrap the rope around the model, paint emanates from the rope, painting the object. Because wrapping the rope too hastily can cause an area of the object to be unreachable, there is an incentive for you to take your time and wrap carefully, covering every facet of the object (there is no time or rope limit). For each level, there are certain coverage goals. Unlocking a certain number of goals unlocks new models to explore.

The game controls intuitively, using multi-touch to help make accurate movements. If you make a mistake, it's all on you. Swiping rotates the object in the direction of the swipe, like the original. Tilt is also supported for the more adventurous.

The game is presented magnificently. The graphics are simply the best the iPhone/iPod Touch has seen, with details like shadows and color/paint schemes unique to the object. The menu screen consists of advancing up the trunk of a cherry tree; completing goals causes flowers to bloom and new levels to open. There are 51 levels in all, each unique and wonderfully rendered. The objects look like real wood, and the rope looks and behaves like real rope. The music should sound somewhat familiar to fans of the original; Ghost Monkey, a Finnish producer/DJ, provides some unique downtempo electronic music that nicely accompanies the aesthetic of the game.

Overall, this game is one of the most remarkable apps available on the App Store. It's pure fun, and it's a great app to show off to friends. The replay value of this is fantastic the physics and objects are just so unique and intricate that it is just plain fun to play. From a guy who has spent more money than he should have on his iPod Touch, trust me: this really is an indespensable app.

Verdict: worth the hype, and definitely, unequivocally worth the $5.

[Gieve]

Who predicted there would be guys who did not play bondage but bought it anyways and didn't realize they didn't like these games?

tell me about it ;)

already done the croc statue (patience, how symbolic) :) all of them 100% so far

I LOVE THIS GAME!!!!!!!

[BrushMyNoseOff]

Who predicted there would be guys who did not play bondage but bought it anyways and didn't realize they didn't like these games?

It's a given. For 10 that like it, 1 will not.

No one should be disappointed with the purchase, though. The gameplay concept was presented black-on-white numerous times - in screenshots, videos, and game's description. You all should know what to expect and what you are paying for. It would really be pretty silly and disappointing if people who bought the game based on the hype alone, started posting negative reviews because the game did not apply to them.

It's not a game for everyone, that's for sure.

[FazzyReborn]

Awesomeness! I must has it! D/L now.

[Hello]

hoping a lite version will come out soon,

[polyplay]

Alright. I can live with the rope; as I suspected, I just had to get used to the slipperiness.

I still wish there were some way to prevent the rope from prematurely tying off on the nail, though. I have to work my strategy to paint the part of the figure with the nail first.

But this is really an amazing game. I just passed "Cooperation" and have been loving it.

Killer app for sure.

[Spartan12103]

Judging by the comments, it seems as if I should bypass all other apps, even Payback, for this?

[adin]

I still wish there were some way to prevent the rope from prematurely tying off on the nail, though. I have to work my strategy to paint the part of the figure with the nail first.

Ditto; it'd be nice if it gave a confirmation to "end"...and possibly take a picture of your paint job when you're done. (it'd be fun to rotate the object once the rope is tied off, compose the picture, and optionally have it saved to your photo library)

[NotYou]

This game is just as weird, polished, and addicting as I hoped it would be.:)

[polyplay]

This game is just as weird, polished, and addicting as I hoped it would be.:)

Couldn't have said it better myself. :)

[superbad]

Judging by the comments, it seems as if I should bypass all other apps, even Payback, for this?

just make sure YOU KNOW what you're getting into with ZB. it's a different kind of game and it may not appeal to all.

if so, definitely ZB although i LOOOOOVE payback.

[costanza]

Bought, hope it's good.

[spmwinkel]

Frand, I assume you'll read all these replies here when you wake up. Remember about 1-2 week(s) ago, we had a little discussion in the previous topic after I said I probably wouldn't be an early adopter of this game after the SPiN pricedrop? I started to change my mind in the last few days and the early reports from those who already purchased it, made me get it as well. I hope Zen Bound will bring you a lot of money so that you can continue to bring out original games. :)

[gunslinger]

4.99 introductory price? What is the full price?

[spmwinkel]

4.99 introductory price? What is the full price?I have a feeling that it will depend on the success of the game. The better it does, the more it can go up in price. (If it doesn't do well, a high price increase would ruin the income)
I'm not sure of course.

[polyplay]

4.99 introductory price? What is the full price?

Who knows, but it is unquestionably worth the $5.

[Frand]

Well, this is a nice morning to wake up to! I hope you guys enjoy the game :)

That being said, I'm disappointed to hear that the quality of the translation is lacking. Please, for everyone with a problem, let me know in a PM which language and if there are specific sentences affected. The problems will be addressed.

[Gieve]

Well, this is a nice morning to wake up to! I hope you guys enjoy the game :)

That being said, I'm disappointed to hear that the quality of the translation is lacking. Please, for everyone with a problem, let me know in a PM which language and if there are specific sentences affected. The problems will be addressed.

Morning Frand.


what can i say........ you out did yourself...... if you ever find yourself in Surrey England, i'll be sure to buy a round of drinks for you and your team mates.

The standard of presentation is increadable, you should feel so proud of what you have done, and the amount of happy bunnies you have made on this forum alone.

Looking forward to all of your success, you deserve it.

[thinkdontpray]

man, i really want to like this. the music is great, design is great, idea is great, but somehow it just doesnt pan out as well as i had of hoped

its really good but the hype outweighed its actual value imo

not worth 5 bucks, but 3 for sure

[ibelongintheforums]

Frand, check out my sig

First buyer and reviewer

Hehe

:)

[michael24]

why isnt it showing up on my ipod??? help :o

[Frand]

Remember everyone, to download the soundtrack tap the 'SECRET EXIT' button in the main menu.

[tastymac]

not worth 5 bucks, but 3 for sure

Can't please everybody, par for the course.

Friendly reminder - be sure to post a review on itunes.

Frand, edit your sig. :)

[grumpytreto]

I have been waiting for this game since the first screenshots came out. I just got off work and had to buy it right away. I love calming type games like TanZen

[TRIPLE BEAM DREAM]

I'm so relaxed that I probably won't have to buy another game for atleast a 24 hours. Actually I think this is helping the addict in me. Love the game well
worth the wait.

[spmwinkel]

I agree with the comments about the way the level is finished. Right now, when I earn 2 flowers and try to get 100% on a level, I have to do so while avoiding the nail because it will automatically end the level.

Maybe I'll get used to this and think of it as "There are two challenges in completing a level: getting 100% and avoiding the nail while doing so", but for now I have mixed thoughts about this.

It's the only thing I can come up with, though, everything else feels really good so far. :)

[ibelongintheforums]

That's also my only complaint. But it makes it more challenging.great game!!!
What should I play tiki towers, zen bound, or sway?
I'm going insane!!!!

[spmwinkel]

Play Zen Bound or Sway. Tiki Towers is great as well, but right now it´s more fun to join in the Zen Bound and Sway hype. The main active discussion about Tiki Towers is gone now, so play that later.

[CrocStock]

Err, why has Chillingo published this game?

[tastymac]

I agree with the comments about the way the level is finished. Right now, when I earn 2 flowers and try to get 100% on a level, I have to do so while avoiding the nail because it will automatically end the level.

Maybe I'll get used to this and think of it as "There are two challenges in completing a level: getting 100% and avoiding the nail while doing so", but for now I have mixed thoughts about this.

It's the only thing I can come up with, though, everything else feels really good so far. :)

Wrap the nail area first.

[spmwinkel]

Err, why has Chillingo published this game?

Probably because it has more/better recourses and channels to get the word about this game out. It has excisting relations with review sites, has done promotion/advertising before, etc. This way Secret Exit can focus on developing a great application.

[spmwinkel]

Wrap the nail area first.

But then when you get 100%, you have to go back to the nail from the other side of the object. That's a waste of rope! ;)

[russiaone]

I'm so relaxed that I probably won't have to buy another game for atleast a 24 hours. Actually I think this is helping the addict in me. Love the game well
worth the wait.



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


Damn addicts...

We should start a group: Apps Anonymous

[spmwinkel]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


Damn addicts...

We should start a group: Apps Anonymous

Would this excisting group: Holly Shit, I'm An Addict! (http://forums.toucharcade.com/group.php?groupid=14) do as well? ;)

Edit - in fact, there is a: Appaholics Anonymous (http://forums.toucharcade.com/group.php?groupid=2)!

[CrocStock]

Mmm, I find it odd especially considering how you can basically submit your app to these websites but whatever :P

Looks a very good game nonetheless, the graphics look extremely good and so does the gameplay.

[D.Sync]

Wow it's finally here! Glad I checked at TA. It still haven't appear in AppShopper at the time I'm writing this. Guess the waiting is long gone eh? For those who had been tracing the released of Zen Bound, what's your comment?

For me, now that's the waiting is over I think I won't check AppShopper daily anymore, ;P

[ibelongintheforums]

I've been tracing the release. Let's just say 150 posts in the "offical" thread later I love it.
Live up to it and more

I'm half way through though. Oh course not 100 each one but close.

[mrbass]

First impressions - does not live up the hype. Nicely done, interesting and very high production value and polish. But let's not kid ourselves, wrapping wooden objects in string does not a fun game make. I'd rather kill Dracula, defend towers, race cars or figure out how to have a frog eat a fly.

It's a great job, but not much of a game or puzzle.

Yea I'm gonna have to wait for a lite version. Same thing for that Ancient Frogs game. Maybe they'll never come with lite versions but for $5 (don't give me crap about starbucks as I don't drink that addictive crap anyways) I have to be more selective in games. I'm sure it's high quality and high polish just not sure if it's type of game I can get into or not.

[tastymac]

But then when you get 100%, you have to go back to the nail from the other side of the object. That's a waste of rope! ;)

Is that seriously part of the strategy? I don't see where it scores you for that.

[spmwinkel]

Is that seriously part of the strategy? I don't see where it scores you for that.

In the Tree view (where you select the level) it shows you your record for that level: the amount of flowers (dots) corresponding to the percentage you completed, and the amount of rope you used.

[Freeway82]

Is this game some weird fetish crap because i'm not into such nonsense or is it actually a GAME that is supposed to be played?
Someone please explain because i can't spend my money just to tie some fetish ropes around inanimate objects.

[spmwinkel]

tie some fetish ropes around inanimate objects.That's basically the gameplay, yes. But it's a game, since there are goals to achieve (cover as much of the object as possible with the least amount of rope).

[tastymac]

Is this game some weird fetish crap because i'm not into such nonsense or is it actually a GAME that is supposed to be played?
Someone please explain because i can't spend my money just to tie some fetish ropes around inanimate objects.

I see what you did there...

[polyplay]

Jeez, the top of the Tree of Reflection is tough. I'm having a very tough (but very fun) time on Perseverance.

And I love love LOVE Innocence. It's a great way to take out frustrations after having to hear crying babies at the movie theater. ;)

[markx2]

I have to agree about the nail as someone has said recently.
I've been trying for 100% and I either have to give that up and settle for less or I have to cover the area around the nail first and not go near it. Touching the nail - especially when it is out of sight and I'm lining up for a tricky patch - is a little frustrating. Not hugely so but some shapes do not seem to lend themselves to getting the nail first and it could limit strategy. But maybe that's just me.

Tapping the nail after touching would work for me.

BUT - fantastic game. This is what I have been waiting for and more. Many thanks for creating it.

[Chillingo]

Thanks again everyone for supporting Zen Bound. Please -- if you like the game, kindly post a review on iTunes to help the game. More positive feedback equals more sales which results in more updates and games from the genius coders at SecretExit.com.

Enjoy the game -- we hope you think it has been worth the wait !

[don_k]

Yea I'm gonna have to wait for a lite version. Same thing for that Ancient Frogs game. Maybe they'll never come with lite versions but for $5 (don't give me crap about starbucks as I don't drink that addictive crap anyways) I have to be more selective in games. I'm sure it's high quality and high polish just not sure if it's type of game I can get into or not.

+1
The visuals and presentation are surely top-notch, but I'm not sure I'll enjoy the gameplay.

[spmwinkel]

Thanks again everyone for supporting Zen Bound. Please -- if you like the game, kindly post a review on iTunes to help the game. More positive feedback equals more sales which results in more updates and games from the genius coders at SecretExit.com.

Enjoy the game -- we hope you think it has been worth the wait !Just posted a 5 star review to the Dutch app store. Reviews are relatively rare here compared to the US app store so I hope it will motivate some Dutch people to get the game. :)
(I did mention what we've discussed here as well: completing the level 100% is difficult because the level ends when the nail is touched.)

[Frand]

The Japanese iPhone site ipodtouchlab.com gave us 6 stars out of 5 and also posted a youtube gameplay video:

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Full link to the review: ipodtouchlab (http://ipodtouchlab.com/2009/02/zen-bound-iphone-347.html)

[arono]

Yeeeeees it's finally here
This was an inmediant bought just when I woke up and saw the bird in rope whensearched for zen bound
All I can say is WOW this game is freakingly awesome I'm so glad I bought it will review it inmediatly on the appstore

Thanks for bringing this great game to us frand!!!!:D

[spmwinkel]

The Japanese iPhone site ipodtouchlab.com gave us 6 stars out of 5 and also posted a youtube gameplay video:I love watching the videos, it makes me excited about the objects that are coming up in the game.

I do think, though, that a rating system doesn't have much value if a reviewer limits him/herself to 5 stars and then gives out more. :rolleyes::o

[h1976]

The Japanese iPhone site ipodtouchlab.com gave us 6 stars out of 5 and also posted a youtube gameplay video:

Full link to the review: ipodtouchlab (http://ipodtouchlab.com/2009/02/zen-bound-iphone-347.html)


No surprise there... them kinky people love anything with a bondage theme, pretty soon it would be no. 1 there heh :p

[markx2]

iTunes.
I am stunned at the single reference to Zenbound.com

The 2 links go to the Chillingo site and from there there is NO link to Zenbound. Nothing. Or if there is it's hidden in the other 87.

So if someone decides to check out the game links - and people won't maybe see the zenbound.com link - they see a publisher site. This will sell nothing. It will impress no-one. No video link, no images, no wallpaper, no design. It's like you don't care about the game to promote it.
This cannot all be laid at the door of Apple's linking. You have complete control over where those links land.

Chillingo - can I suggest a site overhaul? It would make thing so much nicer for everyone :)

[gunslinger]

Just a crazy idea: add figure editor so everybody can add handmade figurines of wood :)

[Frand]

Just a crazy idea: add figure editor so everybody can add handmade figurines of wood :)

Uh huh. I can see where this is going. No, there will be no schoolgirls in this game. :)

[FallenAngel]

Just found a problem in the German version: In the menu, the two points are called "Baum des Reflektion" and "Baum des Aufgabe". It should actually be "Baum der Reflektion and "Baum der Aufgabe".
Not very problematic, but hard to look at^^.

[gunslinger]

Does it mean you are already working on the new version with schoolgirls? ;)

[h1976]

Uh huh. I can see where this is going. No, there will be no schoolgirls in this game. :)

Just a crazy idea: add figure editor so everybody can add handmade figurines of wood :)

You know... that actually is a good idea, maybe not a full fledged 3d editor, that would be hard to do, even if its possible the interface would be a nightmare. But maybe a simple lego style build your own group of blocks, which with the right group of basic shapes can still get you some pretty complex shapes....

even a school girl heh :p

Then all we need is a sort of an online server where you can upload user contents... and voila we can have the real NSFW zen bondage that passes the Appstore heh...

Or am I wrong? do they scan future user created online content? :cool:

[ajd90]

Uh huh. I can see where this is going. No, there will be no schoolgirls in this game. :)

Cheers for making a brilliant game Frand :D! I hope sales go incredibly well, having a developer as genius as Secret Exit designing exclusively for the iPhone/iPod Touch platform is amazing. Best of luck with zen bound and I'm throughly looking forward to see what's coming next!

[Chiller ONE]

Don't get me wrong, I'm into hardcore bondage as much as the next guy but I don't see why everyone is so god damn excited about this game?
:confused:
:D

[Frand]

Just found a problem in the German version: In the menu, the two points are called "Baum des Reflektion" and "Baum des Aufgabe". It should actually be "Baum der Reflektion and "Baum der Aufgabe".
Not very problematic, but hard to look at^^.

The German localization has already been improved, and we will check the text files internally for length and line-change issues. An update will be submitted soon.

[HardcoreEricXXX]

Don't get me wrong, I'm into hardcore bondage as much as the next guy but I don't see why everyone is so god damn excited about this game?
:confused:
:D

Eh, I'm patiently waiting for prey. I finally came to the conclusion that I like simple, easy to play games on my xbox and action games on my iPod.

[ajd90]

Don't get me wrong, I'm into hardcore bondage as much as the next guy but I don't see why everyone is so god damn excited about this game?
:confused:
:D

I think it's because it's unique and in an app store that's becoming flooded with games that are very similar, such as all the different types of racing game, it's great to see a game with the level of polish that Zen Bound has. And when/if you play it, you'll see that the controls would never work as well on any other current platform. So it's great to see this level of originality on a platform that has, at times, seemed to be dominated by apps that offer little polish and give the impression that all the developer wants is to make a quick buck/59p.

[SurgE]

I actually bought this purely based on the reviews here. I gave in to the hype, downloading now. I sure hope it doesn't disappoint! hehe

[polyplay]

Just one, difficult flower left on the Tree of Reflection... I have a creeping suspicion that something will bloom out of the trunk if I collect all the flowers.

It's just that dang Balance!!



I'm absolutely in love with the abstract figures on the Tree of Challenge. Great times.

Congrats on the beautiful game, Secret Exit! I like the soundtrack, too. A great idea.

[CandyNJ66]

Don't get me wrong, I'm into hardcore bondage as much as the next guy but I don't see why everyone is so god damn excited about this game?
:confused:
:D

ugh lol. Not everyone is into "hardcore" bondage or bondage itself.

[MaskU2See]

I'm enjoying this game very much.

Very unique and relaxing to play.

[Mindfield]

Awesome! Definitely gotta find a way to get this. It's one of the few I'd be willing to jump through Canada's stupid eCommerce hoops for. Anyone wanna send me a US iTunes card? :D

[P0tent1al]

Firstly my apologies to Chillingo due to my suspicions of the seemingly phantom release date and wondering if this was just hype building....
I was just a frustrated consumer waiting to purchase this. :o

Downloaded it without hesitation this morning, played a couple of levels and I love it.

Many, many thanks to Chillingo and equally as important the Secret Exit Dev team for a superb title.

:D

[SurgE]

Awesome game! Definitely lives up to all the hype! I actually enjoyed the relaxing pace of this game. At the moment where I first managed to bind something up to 99%, I knew I was addicted.

[RedStaR]

Just a crazy idea: add figure editor so everybody can add handmade figurines of wood :)

good idea......

I would call it "widdle/wrap" (mode): custom puzzles
fassion your own wood pieces and wrap them and share online.

[HJJ]

I downloaded the game this morning, but won't have a chance to play until later this evening.

So I'll comment on the only thing I can... the icon is awesome. I love how it looks like a little 3-D piece of wood. Subtle and very nicely done :)

[Anders]

We here at Illusion Labs like it very much too, so go ahead and grab it!

[Chillingo]

Likewise ! Both Zen Bound and Sway are interstellar titles -- a must for anyone with an iphone/ipod touch. People -- please don't forget to support them by giving app store reviews on iTunes. Thank you.

[D.Sync]

Is there any reward for completing a sculpture for 100%? So far I couldn't get 100% because every time I exceed the minimum passing percentage I accidentally touch the end nail, hence ending the game. Hopefully there will be a button that the player can press when he/she feels like completing it.

[GatorDeb]

Eh, I don't get this game. I didn't get Nurikabe either at first and now I love it, so I'm not giving up hope. But I played it all of one minute before moving on to other games.

[superbad]

Is there any reward for completing a sculpture for 100%? So far I couldn't get 100% because every time I exceed the minimum passing percentage I accidentally touch the end nail, hence ending the game. Hopefully there will be a button that the player can press when he/she feels like completing it.

incentive??? you get all 3 flowers in full bloom.

idk. maybe it's an OCD thing but i want all the flowers in full bloom :p

agree regarding hitting the nail. they should change it to wrap around the nail to finish.

[Frand]

Is there any reward for completing a sculpture for 100%? So far I couldn't get 100% because every time I exceed the minimum passing percentage I accidentally touch the end nail, hence ending the game. Hopefully there will be a button that the player can press when he/she feels like completing it.

1 blossom for 70%
2 blossoms for 85%
3 blossoms for 99%

[Frand]

agree regarding hitting the nail. they should change it to wrap around the nail to finish.

We tried that at first, and the result was that everyone who picked up the game had no idea how to complete a level. It was simply not intuitive.

As a tip, try painting the area around the nail first, before hitting 70%, then painting the rest of the object.

[Gieve]

Is it just me or is tranquility a very hard statue to get the last bloom with... oh well, i'll just keep on trying :)

Once again Frand, well done!!! not only is it an incredible game, but it's getting the press coverage it deserves, which should happily bring it to the attention of a wide audience, ultimately, padding out your pocket quite well ;) and hopefully leading to more great games from you guys. I can not wait!!!

oh........ what was that announcement you'd make after Zen Bounds release ?!;)

[lopches]

i <3 secretexit. Marry me please!

[MaskU2See]

Just downloaded and played the first three "branches"

I'm almost concerned about playing it too much for fear of beating this game!

Controls, Graphics, Sound and Concept is unreal, feels like my brain is smiling when i play this!

Eye and Brain Candy !


This definitely raised the bar for apps in the app store!


Going to be top paid app in to time.

[rojaz]

bought it. loved it.

i wasnt caught up in the hype and wanted to see some more of the game first and some reviews.

game is perfectly made

[Khayman]

I played the first 15 levels and yes the game is really beutifull.
But yeeee this game is boring! uninstalled it.
It feels like there is no point at all to put rope aound a woodenfigure.
It is a very goodlooking way to do nothing at all, no fun, no rush, not hard, just nothing.
Waaay to much money for that game.

[HJJ]

I played the first 15 levels and yes the game is really beutifull.
But yeeee this game is boring! uninstalled it.
It feels like there is no point at all to put rope aound a woodenfigure.
It is a very goodlooking way to do nothing at all, no fun, no rush, not hard, just nothing.
Waaay to much money for that game.
What did you think it would be like instead?

The gameplay videos have been extremely clear... and there is a PC demo.

[Wegmans]

I played the first 15 levels and yes the game is really beutifull.
But yeeee this game is boring! uninstalled it.
It feels like there is no point at all to put rope aound a woodenfigure.
It is a very goodlooking way to do nothing at all, no fun, no rush, not hard, just nothing.
Waaay to much money for that game.


This is what i'd been thinking this whole time.. I think i'll hang around till there's a price drop.. I did just buy Ancient Frog though haha

[hirschy75]

What did you think it would be like instead?

The gameplay videos have been extremely clear... and there is a PC demo.

ya you shoulda been able to figure out what it basically was. I only bought of due to the hype and I'm glad I did. I love it

[lithiastudios]

To be honest, I thought Zen Bondage was neat, but never got into it. I picked up Zen Bound and was hooked .. maybe it's the improved presentation or rotating around using my finger on the screen, but whatever it is, it's excellent.

[Finchypoo]

first things first...WOW!

Frand, give a big congratulations to the rest of the team there at secret exit, this is an amazing game.

Graphics are absolutely top notch. I love all details on the branches and the nice out of focus backgrounds. The color pallet is spot on and the extra physics of the tags and lanterns as you move the phone are great to watch. This is also probably one of the coolest UI's I've seen and it complements the theme of the game.

As for gameplay, everything that was remotely frustrating about the PC version is fixed. The rope physics are much more realistic, the way to unwind rope is more predictable and works better than it ever did before and I find the touch and tilt controls much preferable to the mouse for string wrapping. Zen Bound just feels natural to interact with and its a lot of fun.

Oh, and seeing those flowers pop open after completing a level, best reward ever!

Now I just have to ask, open to guest submissions for new objects?

[pante]

zen bound is for sure one of the most polished games in app store. the graphics are truly amazing and the whole "idea of the rope" is fantastic... but after couple of hours i spent with it i didn't "dig it'. maybe i need some more time?
but all the devs should definitely try it - this is how every game should look like.

[slickninja]

Just nabbed the soundtrack, rare that the soundtrack is actually something to be excited about.

Secret Exit really has hit the nail in on the head. Its best played in bursts but yeah, physics work right, the graphics are beautiful and the game is a melody of aesthetics and game.

Really, its great to see such an unconventional game get so much attention.

[coconutbowling]

OMG, I came home from school, and Zen Bound is actually here!! If you don't see me on TA for the next week or so, you'll know why.

[VWXYZ]

This is really awesome! I don't see myself playing it for 5 hours stright (without turning manic) but for the short 10-15 minutes breaks in trains and such, its absolutely amazing!

Just don't hope I run out of levels soon! Already played up to around 30 in Tree of reflection, hope there is at least around 100

[Negamaki]

This is really awesome! I don't see myself playing it for 5 hours stright (without turning manic) but for the short 10-15 minutes breaks in trains and such, its absolutely amazing!

Just don't hope I run out of levels soon! Already played up to around 30 in Tree of reflection, hope there is at least around 100

I believe it said in the description of the game that there are 51 levels total.

[Frand]

I believe it said in the description of the game that there are 51 levels total.

Yes, 51 now in Tree of Reflection and Tree of Challenge. Tree of Nostalgia coming in March with additional 25. Beyond that, the sales of the game really determine what we will be able to do in the future.

Hoping for the best, of course :)

[coconutbowling]

Yes, 51 now in Tree of Reflection and Tree of Challenge. Tree of Nostalgia coming in March with additional 25. Beyond that, the sales of the game really determine what we will be able to do in the future.

Hoping for the best, of course :)

So more sales = more levels?

Everyone must buy this game now.

[spmwinkel]

The flower achievements help greatly in making the amount of levels seem larger. If I'm working to get, let's say, 40 flowers, it means only ~14 completed levels. The "40" sounds like a lot so I think I'm close to 50, but then I realise that I need to keep levels and flowers seperated. :)

[spmwinkel]

So more sales = more levels?

Everyone must buy this game now.A lot should buy now, and then even more should buy when the price goes up. ;)

[anduril_ukr]

YESSSSS!!!! FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I get home from school and theres zen bound, sway, and edge update!!! I'm ecstatic! I just got home, so missed most of the first impressions/didn't get in the early conversation. im sure it is really good! I am downloading immediately

[1337brian]

YESSSSS!!!! FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I get home from school and theres zen bound, sway, and edge update!!! I'm ecstatic! I just got home, so missed most of the first impressions/didn't get in the early conversion. im sure it is really good! I am downloading immediately

Yep it's as great as most expected it to be if not more! Been playing since last night, well this and sway... :D

[PeterM11]

This is truly amazing. This game is actually living up to the hype despite how much it got built up in the waiting!!! This seems like it will be a great year for the iPhone and its gaming, and it's not even been a year since the AppStore launched! Truly incredible.

[anduril_ukr]

Yes, 51 now in Tree of Reflection and Tree of Challenge. Tree of Nostalgia coming in March with additional 25. Beyond that, the sales of the game really determine what we will be able to do in the future.

Hoping for the best, of course :)

so, how are the sales going? i hope thats not exclusive info or something, i just think that you and your team should reap the benefits of all the work you put into this incredible game!

[yournothere]

im addicted to zen bound!!!!!!!
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh who else cant put their ipod touch down?
i thjnk this is the best game ever!!!!!

[firstprime]

well that's a bit extreme...
take it easy man, it would be
worse if you couldn't pick it up...
or if you had no arms...
so you literally couldn't pick it up!

also is it that good?

[yournothere]

sry bout that i think i was high.
i think its really good.
i bought sway with zen bound but i seem to be playing zen bound more

[cnbigcan43]

Well I have to say I am definitely not disappointed. Graphics are AMAZING and I love the soundtrack. Zip files again. Bleh. Oh well. Worth it. I 1000% (yes, one thousand) recommend it.

[Tennisking1o1]

sry bout that i think i was high.
i think its really good.
i bought sway with zen bound but i seem to be playing zen bound more

What do you mean you "think" you were high. You don't go from incredibly high to normal in a span of 10 minutes and not remember if you were just high ?

Anyway, I have no time this week to enjoy this or Sway but I think I will pick both up this weekend. I'm glad to hear, from a lot of people, that this game is living up to the hype

[rustyjaw]

Wow, I'm so in love with this game, it's obscene. Just utterly fantastic, the execution is near flawless.* The control blows me away, it's so intuitive. The game much more involving when you don't have to fight the controls. The subtleties are fantasic, the way the rope follows the iPhone's tilt is superb. The music is awesome too.

*my only wish so far is that there was a way to confirm that you want to complete a level. A few times I have accidentally hit the nail to finish before I intended.

[xiao]

What do you mean you "think" you were high. You don't go from incredibly high to normal in a span of 10 minutes and not remember if you were just high ?


I was thinking exactly the same thing. I hate people who think its cool to do drugs as if there aren't millions of people who do, and they're like "oh dude, i was probably high."

Probably high? WTF?? Just proof they've never touched a drug in their life.

When you're high there's no "I might be high right now"

[anduril_ukr]

i love this game (i could go on and on about what makes it so great, but others have already done so)! However, there are 2 things that keep this game from being incredible, and 1 thing that would be a great improvement.

1. Accidental end - Over and over I accidently end a level prematurely, when I want to continue. If you have not already "painted" the area with the end nail, and hope for 100%, you are doomed.

2. Bugs - In many of the tree of challenge puzzles (i haven't noticed it in the animal tree yet) the rope does not "paint" as it should. There are parts where wood is left unpainted completely out of the blue. Don't have wifi, so can't show pics (need to email them):(
3. Slippery rope - sometimes, when you are trying to manouver the object, the rope does not cooperate as it slides when you want it to "stick". perhaps when it has already painted some wood, it would become somewhat "sticky".

[shkudt]

http://tapni.ru/featured/zenbound-tapniru.jpg

cult of zen :)

[coconutbowling]

cult of zen :)

That's awesome. I want to do that with my iPod :)

[hirschy75]

i love this game (i could go on and on about what makes it so great, but others have already done so)! However, there are 2 things that keep this game from being incredible, and 1 thing that would be a great improvement.

1. Accidental end - Over and over I accidently end a level prematurely, when I want to continue. If you have not already "painted" the area with the end nail, and hope for 100%, you are doomed.

2. Bugs - In many of the tree of challenge puzzles (i haven't noticed it in the animal tree yet) the rope does not "paint" as it should. There are parts where wood is left unpainted completely out of the blue. Don't have wifi, so can't show pics (need to email them):(
3. Slippery rope - sometimes, when you are trying to manouver the object, the rope does not cooperate as it slides when you want it to "stick". perhaps when it has already painted some wood, it would become somewhat "sticky".

I think the rope isn't suppossed to be sticky and it is part of the challenge and the nail is suppossed to be tricky so you play strategically.

And I haven't seen any bugs that you've described

[Ph4ntom4]

I agree with the accidental end compaint, in a game meant to be relaxing, it can be quite frustrating.

Otherwise, a simply fantastic achievement.

[Rocketman919]

That's awesome. I want to do that with my iPod :)

but then you couldnt play the game :(

[anduril_ukr]

I think the rope isn't suppossed to be sticky and it is part of the challenge and the nail is suppossed to be tricky so you play strategically.

And I haven't seen any bugs that you've described

i can see your point with the sticky part. it was overly sticky in zen bondage. it would definitely be easier with being sticky. i don't really want super sticky, so that you can go halfway across a flat side and turn. i just want it not to slip because of accidently manouvering the object just to look or whatever.

i also see your point about the nail, but sometimes it gets real annoying and non-zen when you keep having to redo your objects just because of that.

here are pics of the bug

[hkiphone]

Bought this game while in the bathroom and didn't realize that I was cooing all over with statements to myself like "oh wow, that's some good shit." which give my missus the giggles.
But the game is brilliantly done and looks so gorgeous. Complete in audio visual and gaming zen. You really do feel like it's to be taken patiently, like the Heinz Ketchup ad, "best things come to those who wait".
I would also kindly request for signal if you accidentally finish the model by touching the final nail. Give an option to move onto next model or continue. I think that would offer a solution to what Frand said, about how newbies didn't know the level could end.
Oh and absolutely adore the tree as it's lit up on progression!!! Very cool!!!!

[Dio]

The sticky rope is a bother for me to. i'd prefer less sticky rope while playing this.

but this game is still great, so i don't really care :)

[tastymac]

I would also kindly request for signal if you accidentally finish the model by touching the final nail. Give an option to move onto next model or continue.

I'd like to also make the request. It does seem unnecessarily frustrating, you feel like turning the game off after you do it a couple times in a row. I could see if it deducted points somehow, but I don't think it should end your game.

I've rated it at the appstore, have you?

[MNFats]

On a whim, I purchased this game. I am not really a big fan of games like this. However, I did have some money left on a gift card and I pulled the trigger.





SO GLAD I DID!!!!

I was simply lost in a zen like dharma trance this afternoon on my 1hr bus ride... The music draws you in, the controls give you complete control, and you really do find yourself relaxing and simply enjoying a great game.

very polished.

Excellent game.

[Dio]

Yeah this game grew onto me, fast.

I started to really get into it and i began to finish levels with 25/50 m of rope left

[polyplay]

i can see your point with the sticky part. it was overly sticky in zen bondage. it would definitely be easier with being sticky. i don't really want super sticky, so that you can go halfway across a flat side and turn. i just want it not to slip because of accidently manouvering the object just to look or whatever.

i also see your point about the nail, but sometimes it gets real annoying and non-zen when you keep having to redo your objects just because of that.


That phenomenon happened in the original, too. I'm not at the iPod right now, but try wrapping more slowly; if I recall, sometimes wrapping too quickly causes the game's hit detection to be a little less accurate.

[Coral]

I don't have time to read this whole thread, but WOW. This game is seriously a work of art. The graphics are beautiful and the controls are incredibly smooth. I haven't seen a single slow down after a few hours of play. I wasn't keeping track of the time but I have potential to burn through my battery on this game.
I really liked the Co-Operation level. Back to wrapping.

[Kamazar]

... loveitloveloveit! it's everything I hoped for and more! I used up all my rope on the second level, though. this is gonna take some getting use to

[Tennisking1o1]

App store average: 31 5-star reviews
1 4-star review

All I can say is wow!

[ibelongintheforums]

App store average: 31 5-star reviews
1 4-star review

All I can say is wow!

i was the first five star one

:)

what can i say

im a sucker for a good wrapping game
:p

[Dio]

When should we expect this thing to get on the Top Paid list.

[coconutbowling]

When should we expect this thing to get on the Top Paid list.

It's already on the top list for Puzzle games. I give it 2 days before it reaches the top 100 list.

[fiskadoro]

Rare for a game to live up to the hype. I'm trying to find things to not like about it and be cynical about, but frankly, it's a stunning piece of work, half art-piece, half-game... I think I'm going to spend many happy hours on this.

[SurgE]

http://tapni.ru/featured/zenbound-tapniru.jpg

cult of zen :)

That looks like 2 flowers for you ;)

[Buster08]

The game looks amazing, but how is it on the battery? Is it a big drainer?

[coconutbowling]

The game looks amazing, but how is it on the battery? Is it a big drainer?

Unfortunately it is pretty battery heavy. Who cares though.

[Dio]

Unfortunately it is pretty battery heavy. Who cares though.

And that's why you got those games for "on the go" quick ones, like iDracula.;)

AnYways, don't want to change this topic so.. Zen Bound is awesome.

[anduril_ukr]

one more thing to improve: make it so that the rope (where your wrapping and the source of the rope) does NOT go off the screen. A couple times it has, and I have to guess blindly where to go, making it quite difficult

[MNFats]

Unfortunately it is pretty battery heavy. Who cares though.

I don't agree with this....

I played ZB today with the headphones on for a good full continuous hour on my iPod Touch 2nd gen and the battery drain was minimal.

Then again, I didn't use safari or mail so they weren't open in the background and I turn off my wi-fi when i play games, so that helps the battery consumption. A searching wi-fi will drain that battery in no time if you are not using it and its searching for a connection.

I would have to say... for the graphics and sound... this game is very light on the battery life... at the heaviest its like most other games.

comparatively... it uses more than movie watching, more than Rogue Touch, but way less than PuzzleQuest, and much much less than Field Runners.

anyway... thats my 2 cents.

[coconutbowling]

I just know this game was draining for me. I played for about an hour, and my battery became half filled. I just have to assume it's wrong since the battery icon isn't accurate (as I have been told)

On a side note: I'm waiting for a person to rate this game 1 star saying "stop all the fake reivews", so I can go "wtf, there's like 200 good reviews".

[polyplay]

one more thing to improve: make it so that the rope (where your wrapping and the source of the rope) does NOT go off the screen. A couple times it has, and I have to guess blindly where to go, making it quite difficult

Within the first hour of playing, I thought the same thing. Some figures are long enough that a portion of them goes offscreen. The solution, obviously, is to use the two-finger spin to rotate the model. At first I didn't like it, but some of the models would be much harder to wrap up if they were "moved back," because it would be much harder to get the rope inside those tough crevasses.

I've tried about 25 times now, and I still can't get to the 99% threshold on Balance, the last figure on the ToR. Has anybody been able to get there?? I know it's possible, because I've gotten close and have always had a little spot here or there that has ruined my plans. It is really tough, though. And the ToC is absolutely fantastic!

[iKoda]

one more thing to improve: make it so that the rope (where your wrapping and the source of the rope) does NOT go off the screen. A couple times it has, and I have to guess blindly where to go, making it quite difficult Needs the ability to pinch outwards to zoom out.
But then they would have to change the way we can already roate the object by using two fingers.
EDIT:
Maybe the controls could be like this.
Two fingers to rotate the object.
Three fingers to zoom in and out. It would look something like this. Having your middle finger on the screen and just using your thumb and index finger to zoom in and out.

[coconutbowling]

On a side note: I'm waiting for a person to rate this game 1 star saying "stop all the fake reivews", so I can go "wtf, there's like 200 good reviews".

Quoting myself ftw!!!

Yes, it's true, Zen Bound got it's first 1 star review by some guy who says it's dumb. Well, if you don't like it, don't buy it. People these days...

EDIT: Someone also went though and disagreed with everyone's 5 star reviews on Sway.

[polyplay]

Needs the ability to pinch outwards to zoom out.
But then they would have to change the way we can already roate the object by using two fingers.
EDIT:
Maybe the controls could be like this.
Two fingers to rotate the object.
Three fingers to zoom in and out. It would look something like this. Having your middle finger on the screen and just using your thumb and index finger to zoom in and out.

Multitouch also recognizes a two-finger touch, which means it would also be possible to use the index and middle fingers held together; swiping up would zoom out and swiping down would zoom in. Again, though: I grew out of the frustration over the off-screen rope. It's not really that annoying once you learn to use the two-finger rotation often.


In other news, I suppose there are some mild spoilers below, so if you like to see things on your own then try not to read the rest of the post.

I just beat the Tree of Reflection 100%! Nothing bloomed out of the top of the tree, but boy, was it worth the ride. Balance and Perseverance were the two toughest for me on that tree. The replay value on this game is superb; there are a lot of great objects that I'm going to have fun wrapping again. Now to try that dastardly Tree of Challenge. :cool:

[BrushMyNoseOff]

Quoting myself ftw!!!

Yes, it's true, Zen Bound got it's first 1 star review by some guy who says it's dumb. Well, if you don't like it, don't buy it. People these days...


Excerpt from the 1-star review:
"I thought this would be cool but all you do is wrap string around wood."

That's right, idiot. It does exactly what the descriptions, screenshots, and videos of the game say and show.

I cannot stand irrational people.

[polyplay]

Excerpt from the 1-star review:
"I thought this would be cool but all you do is wrap string around wood."

That's right, idiot. It does exactly what the descriptions, screenshots, and videos of the game say and show.

I cannot stand irrational people.

Yes, but there will always be irrational people. I'm confident that when everything shakes out, the game will still have a monster rating. Plus, anybody who wanders over to Zen Bound's page on the App Store will see 40+ (at the moment) plaudits.

[BrushMyNoseOff]

Yes, but there will always be irrational people. I'm confident that when everything shakes out, the game will still have a monster rating. Plus, anybody who wanders over to Zen Bound's page on the App Store will see 40+ (at the moment) plaudits.

No, no, I completely understand and agree but it always boggles me - how can someone sit there and write such a review as if they were forced into blind purchasing the game. Only thing I have to add is that I'm glad I'm not a developer/publisher!

[CandyNJ66]

If someone doesn't like the game, then that's just their opinion but if the person says what someone already mentioned, proclaims the obvious, that's just plain stupid. If someone hits the buy button without reading the description, you have yourself to blame.

[polyplay]

No, no, I completely understand and agree but it always boggles me - how can someone sit there and write such a review as if they were forced into blind purchasing the game. Only thing I have to add is that I'm glad I'm not a developer/publisher!

If someone doesn't like the game, then that's just their opinion but if the person says what someone already mentioned, proclaims the obvious, that's just plain stupid. If someone hits the buy button without reading the description, you have yourself to blame.

Definitely agree with both of these posts.

I would absolutely hate to be a developer on a game, having worked so hard on it, and to have it so summarily dismissed by a rogue individual with $5.

By the way, what are everybody's favorite objects thus far? I haven't spent enough time on the Tree of Challenge to get a feel for favorites yet, but I really like Reservation, Hurry, Vanity, and Cooperation on the Tree of Reservation.

[spmwinkel]

I felt kinda sad in the level Indolence. The bear looks so sad, like he know what's happening to him. :(

http://forums.toucharcade.com/picture.php?albumid=48&pictureid=248

(I know I could have used less rope but I made a stupid mistake immediately after the beginning when I should have covered the legs first - now I had to cover small leftover areas to get to 100%).

[markx2]

Long thread so apologies if this has been mentioned. Being a completist sort of guy is there a way to see if I have done 100% of a level?

If we ignore avoiding the nail as one goal, I have 2
- 100% a level
- use the shortest rope

The rope measure I can see and the 3 dots mean I did well but don't show 100%. Am I missing something?

[spmwinkel]

Long thread so apologies if this has been mentioned. Being a completist sort of guy is there a way to see if I have done 100% of a level?In Zen Bound, you can earn three flowers. One if you cover 70% of an object, the second if you cover 85%, and the last one if you cover - I believe - 99%. So 99% or 100%, yes it does have an unlockable achievement for that (the third flower).

[markx2]

Thanks - so 99=100 .. hmm.. I'd still like to know I did actually get 100. I know it's only 1% but it's still incomplete at 99.

[spmwinkel]

I just checked, and it's indeed awarding the third flower at 99%. So you'll have to verify for yourself that you get 100% before touching the nail after getting the third flower. That's what I'm trying to do as well. :)

By the way - you can get 100% with some small spots still unpainted. So even 100% isn't necessarily 100%.

[markx2]

I saw last night that some tiny spots could be left but it's what the code says :)

I really want to enjoy every moment of the game and I want to go for that 100%. So far I will not progress to the next level unless I have got that 100%. But should a level frustrate me I want to know which it is relatively easily when I go back to it.
I have a feeling that only flowers / rope are being recorded, not % which would explain it. It's not a dealbreaker and it's no less of a game simply because one person (me) likes 100% so I'll just have to be sure not to go up until 100% is hit.

[polyplay]

I saw last night that some tiny spots could be left but it's what the code says :)

I really want to enjoy every moment of the game and I want to go for that 100%. So far I will not progress to the next level unless I have got that 100%. But should a level frustrate me I want to know which it is relatively easily when I go back to it.
I have a feeling that only flowers / rope are being recorded, not % which would explain it. It's not a dealbreaker and it's no less of a game simply because one person (me) likes 100% so I'll just have to be sure not to go up until 100% is hit.

Trust me: there will be times in the game when you are glad the threshold is 99% and not 100%. ;)

But I see your point. It would be nice to see your best percentage for each level.

[Coral]

I just wanted to point out that Zen Bound is in the top 50 games and top 100 for all apps. Let's hope the popularity explodes soon.

[pante]

i hate when after first bell i touch by accident the nail and the certain sculpture ends.
they should give 3 sec time after touching or just a finnish button.
yah.

[marx102]

personally I think that the nail adds difficulty to the game. It makes one think harder and plan better. Please don't change it.

[ibelongintheforums]

It's offical. Zen bound has more reviews then SPiN. Great job guys!!

[shkudt]

want to see an option to view completed objects. Gallery or smth..

[markx2]

want to see an option to view completed objects. Gallery or smth..

That would be really cool indeed.

[Lukearcade22]

I am willing to pay for Zen Bound

but is there replay value after completing the main game?

[Frand]

I'm collecting some feedback here, and listing the current topics that have been mentioned:

Issues:
- German translation is poor quality (Fixed, in testing, will be in the next update)
- Dutch translation some issues as well (Fixed, in testing, will be in the next update)
- Paint not spreading evenly on some levels (Thinnest rope behaves like that by design, but we'll see about changing it.)
- Rope too sticky / not sticky enough (Won't change.)
- Touching the glowing nail by accident ends the level (Most feedback from this, but not trivial to change... we'll investigate but no promises.)
- On some levels, rope goes "off-screen" (We won't put in a zoom, we tried it and it caused more disorientation than helped. Remember the two-finger twist ;) )

Requests:
- Would be nice to rotate a finished object and not automatically end the level
- Would be nice if the completion percentage was listed
- Would be nice to have a gallery of sorts or something :)
- Would be nice to grab wallpaper images
- Would be nice to have more levels (Tree of Nostalgia, free extra 25 levels confirmed)

If there are any other requests or issues, please let me know. I think this thread is a good place to discuss this. But keep in mind, even if your request is listed here, it does not mean it will happen.

[arn]

Frand,

Congrats on the Top 100 listing.

arn

[Lukearcade22]

REQUEST:

More levels, the more objects there are too choose from, the better replay value there is :)

[fiskadoro]

This game is sticking in my head too much. I was just at the doctor's and while talking to him the whole time, I was imagining wrapping rope around his LCD monitor and the stapler on his desk.

Damn, I must be obsessed...

[Palfince]

Already #34 on the UK app store, well done!

I'm really enjoying this game, it's so polished and there are plenty of items to wrap. Well worth my £2.99.

[spmwinkel]

- Touching the glowing nail by accident ends the level (Most feedback from this, but not trivial to change... we'll investigate but no promises.)

- Would be nice to rotate a finished object and not automatically end the levelI think that this is all we can ask for. It would be great if the Secret Exit team reconsiders this gameplay element, thinks about it, and can have an argumented statement of why they choose to go with the decision they take. (I'm not saying you should share all of that, as long as you feel confident with your decision)

Requests:
- Would be nice if the completion percentage was listed
- Would be nice to have a gallery of sorts or something :)
- Would be nice to grab wallpaper imagesI agree with the first one. And if the second and third mean that I can take a screenshot of my finished, covered, object and save that in my photo album, I agree with those as well.
And if they don't mean that - I'd like to add this as a request. ;)

[spmwinkel]

REQUEST:

More levels, the more objects there are too choose from, the better replay value there is :)There's an additional tree coming in March. :)

[Frand]

Frand,

Congrats on the Top 100 listing.

arn

Thank you.
It's flattering and overwhelming at the same time. The reviews that we've received in iTunes are fantastic and beyond anything we expected.

So thank you Arn, thank you Touch Arcade.

[superbad]

Feature Request:

- Ability to restart from last wrap percentage. When the rope accidentally hits the nail, I exit out and when I go back in I have to start wrapping all over again

[Frand]

Feature Request:

- Ability to restart from last wrap percentage. When the rope accidentally hits the nail, I exit out and when I go back in I have to start wrapping all over again

I think this has more to do with the accidental touching of the nail than continuing the level, right? I mean, if you don't involuntarily end a level, then you're probably happy from your choice of finishing it.

[superbad]

I think this has more to do with the accidental touching of the nail than continuing the level, right? I mean, if you don't involuntarily end a level, then you're probably happy from your choice of finishing it.

Sure but I don't know. Sometimes I need to do something and I always feel pressured to finish my current wrap because I know if I exit I'd have to restart again.

Also, how does ZB currently handle call distractions while wrapping? Restart the level? Save current wrap %?

[Lukearcade22]

I just bought Zen bound, and i hope i won't be dissappointed

but i don't think i will :D

I also saw that SPiN is on sale

how long is that on sale for Frand?

[Frand]

Sure but I don't know. Sometimes I need to do something and I always feel pressured to finish my current wrap because I know if I exit I'd have to restart again.

Also, how does ZB currently handle call distractions while wrapping? Restart the level? Save current wrap %?

No, we save all progress. If you get a phone call, press the home button or you exit the level without finishing it, the game allows you to continue exactly where you left it.

In fact, we save all progress for all levels... you can have multiple unfinished levels if you wish, just exit the level and pick another one.

[superbad]

No, we save all progress. If you get a phone call, press the home button or you exit the level without finishing it, the game allows you to continue exactly where you left it.

In fact, we save all progress for all levels... you can have multiple unfinished levels if you wish, just exit the level and pick another one.

Hmm. It might be a good idea to just apply it to ALL LEVELS even the one with accomplishments.

Or at least have the option on settings to do this. :confused:

[Frand]

Hmm. It might be a good idea to just apply it to ALL LEVELS even the one with accomplishments.

Or at least have the option on settings to do this. :confused:

We'll need to think about it :)

[superbad]

We'll need to think about it :)

yay thanks!

I understand it might distract the whole zen factor that's why I suggested make it an OPTION instead of a forced feature :p

CONGRATS ON #68!

TO ALL THE LURKERS!!! GRAB IT!!!! NOW!!!!

[rpb1975]

TO ALL THE LURKERS!!! GRAB IT!!!! NOW!!!!

Ok, I'll be honest. I thought the hype for this game was ridiculous....I mean...wrapping rope around a wooden figure? How much fun could that be. After fighting the urge to know what the heck everyone loved so much, I bought Zen Bound. It is fantastic. Totally different type of puzzle game and it is truly relaxing. It is kind of hard to explain, but I love it. Moved onto my FP.

Anyone on the fence? PM or just buy it! :D

By the way, I hope they add even more levels in the future!

[spmwinkel]

Frand, I just received the Secret Exit newsletter.

Very funny! Quoting the 1-star review and then following up with links to the awards and positive reviews.
It must be the real newsletter because it has the authentic seal of authenticity.

Is the newsletter on your site so that other people can look at it as well? I think everybody should be able to take a look at it. :)

[superbad]

Frand, I just received the Secret Exit newsletter.

Very funny! Quoting the 1-star review and then following up with links to the awards and positive reviews.
It must be the real newsletter because it has the authentic seal of authenticity.

Is the newsletter on your site so that other people can look at it as well? I think everybody should be able to take a look at it. :)

WTH! Frand why am I not on your newsletter :(

[Frand]

WTH! Frand why am I not on your newsletter :(

You need to sign up for it on our website, silly person :D

(Or join the Secret Exit Members Club, and get the Membership Diploma and the secret Dekoder Oktagon!)

[spmwinkel]

WTH! Frand why am I not on your newsletter :(Subscribe!!!
There's a box immediately on the homepage - http://secretexit.com/

Edit - I'm too late.

Frand - do we have to take some kind of exam in order to receive the diploma and membership? :D

[superbad]

Subscribe!!!
There's a box immediately on the homepage - http://secretexit.com/

Edit - I'm too late.

Frand - do we have to take some kind of exam in order to receive the diploma and membership? :D

ok. but i'm late for the push now. can you please forward it to theappera@gmail.com

thanks!

[spmwinkel]

Done. :)

[Frand]

Frand - do we have to take some kind of exam in order to receive the diploma and membership? :D

I think you just need to join the forums :)

[spmwinkel]

lol - hehehe I though you made the "Secret Exit Members Club" up. ;)

[Frand]

Service with a smile, we just added a newsletter archive:
Link (http://secretexit.com/about)

[gunslinger]

Bought it, great game! Very addictive and relaxing.

[coconutbowling]

This game is amazing. I showed it to a friend at school who thought it was dumb. 10 minutes later, he wouldn't give my iPod back!

[LesPaul]

This game is amazing. I showed it to a friend at school whotgoight it was dumb. 10 minutes later, he wouldn't give my iPod back!

haha yeah my friends are always taking my ipod and wont give it back:p

[plaidman]

...
- Touching the glowing nail by accident ends the level (Most feedback from this, but not trivial to change... we'll investigate but no promises.)
...


As a UI suggestion for how to handle this, maybe put a toggle switch somewhere in the HUD that will activate or deactivate the glowing nail. Only check for collision with the nail when the nail is active.

[Justom]

Is anyone else having problems with crashing? I tried restarting but it didnt work.

[superbad]

#54 b!tches!!!

up 14 from 68!!!

[anduril_ukr]

While Frand is here . . .

1. Congratulations on a great game! I find myself thinking about this quite a bit after putting down my ipod. I look at a lamp - ooh, that crevice will be hard to wrap through (okay, not quite that extreme). Also congats on being in the top 100 and number 30 something of the games - It definitely deserves it.

2. I have gotten over the non-stickeness part - I don't know what I was thinking, it seems perfect now!

3. About the bug - Its not just that the paint doesn't just spread evenly, there are entire strips of wood left upainted. Please see post 154 for the images. I had it again today - quite frustrating!

4. About the rope going off screen, I still think it would be nice for zoom. HOWEVER, I am used to using the rotate more, and I understand completely if you don't want to implement the zoom.

5. Again, AMAZING game!! It has quickly become one of my favorites for the iphone/ipod touch.

[Pal Van Marrsterhausen]

Whilst were passing compliments, Great job on the music too! I downloaded my free soundtrack today. So now I can listen to Zen Bound when I'm not playing Zen Bound! Thanks for the freebie!

[Frand]

While Frand is here . . .

1. Congratulations on a great game! I find myself thinking about this quite a bit after putting down my ipod. I look at a lamp - ooh, that crevice will be hard to wrap through (okay, not quite that extreme). Also congats on being in the top 100 and number 30 something of the games - It definitely deserves it.

2. I have gotten over the non-stickeness part - I don't know what I was thinking, it seems perfect now!

3. About the bug - Its not just that the paint doesn't just spread evenly, there are entire strips of wood left upainted. Please see post 154 for the images. I had it again today - quite frustrating!

4. About the rope going off screen, I still think it would be nice for zoom. HOWEVER, I am used to using the rotate more, and I understand completely if you don't want to implement the zoom.

5. Again, AMAZING game!! It has quickly become one of my favorites for the iphone/ipod touch.

Thanks for the feedback :)

About #3, if you notice it in only particular levels consistently, just PM me the level names. I'll see if we can address that in an update.

[WOW_GEE]

Kinda lazy so i don't know if this was said earlier, if it was, you can virtually smack me in the face

But could you include some sort of "display" option, where you can display the object you just wrapped? So you could put it as a background on your phone or something? Some look sloppy when finished, but some actually look quite nice, and it would be cool to have a display area where you can save and see your completed objects.

Excellent job on this once again, thisll stay on my phone for a long time.

[HardcoreEricXXX]

I'm sure it's been said but I feel there should be a double tap on the nail to complete.

[Tennisking1o1]

Wow, this game is climbing the charts. #54 in the States in the Top 100 with a 5 star average...Still. Congrats to Frand on making such a great game and hopefully this will hit the Top 10/ Top 5 in no time! :)

[itsOG]

game looks crazy

[hirschy75]

God this is challenging but so addictive. Just got to the coiled snake, I'm trying to pace myself hahaa

I'm glad there's going to be another 25 levels

[arn]

our review. blake reviewed it.

http://toucharcade.com/2009/02/26/a-look-at-zen-bound-the-game-of-rope-and-wood/

he loved it.

arn

[superbad]

our review. blake reviewed it.

http://toucharcade.com/2009/02/26/a-look-at-zen-bound-the-game-of-rope-and-wood/

he loved it.

arn

do you LOVE it?

[Frand]

our review. blake reviewed it.

http://toucharcade.com/2009/02/26/a-look-at-zen-bound-the-game-of-rope-and-wood/

he loved it.

arn

Somewhere in the cold dark north, a bald, bearded hermit is having trouble maintaining his zen.

[hkiphone]

do you LOVE it?

I do!!!!!!
It's just such an amazing experience.
It's practically the sum of all the various technologies that the iPhone/iPod touch has t offer, and presented in such a calming and impressive manner: visual, audio, touch control, accelerometer, about the only thing it doesn't take advantage of is the GPS and online accessibility, but it doesn't need it anyway (aside from downloading the soundtrack!)

Lovely game. Absolutely lovely.

This game might even make me venture into real bondage, haha! (just kidding!)

[arn]

do you LOVE it?

yes. I love it too. :)

arn

[superbad]

yes. I love it too. :)

arn

YAY!!!! :D

congrats Secret Exit and Chillingo!

[spmwinkel]

Zen Bound is #13 in the Dutch store (Top Paid Apps list)!!!

Now I know that this doesn't even remotely compare to the amount of downloads that would get it to #13 in the US, but still... :)

[arn]

it's up to #35 in the U.S. store top 100, which is really the one that matters.

I have to say, I am pleasantly surprised at its rapid rise on the charts. Frand, I wasn't sure it was going to get the mainstream adoption to do it. Especially for a $4.99 title. Looks like you priced it right.

I mean, it's gotten a lot of recognition from the build up over the months. And as a result, a lot of sites have picked up on it right away. Obviously you want a big push during the first couple of days to get to the top of the charts, and it's working.

Very very interested to see where this peaks out.

arn

[superbad]

Mr Arn,

do you remember how high Rolando got at $9.99?

[wonderva]

Mr Arn,

do you remember how high Rolando got at $9.99?

That's because Rolando is and still is the best Game on the App store.

[Future777]

Kudos to Frand & Team, very nice product!


cheers
Future777

[flocked]

there will be a
TREE OF NOSTALGIA in 03/2009.
Look at the fourth picture on the itunes site...

:)

[CandyNJ66]

Forgive me if this video has been posted already but I just noticed it. It's done by one of my fav reviewers on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnEPs2B5-mo

How do I embed Youtube videos?