Stair Dismount Touch - The Official Thread of Denial and Misinformation [Archive]

Frand

03-09-2009, 08:51 AM

http://secretexit.com/uploads/banner-touchmount.png

We are not ready to announce a game called Stair Dismount Touch at this time. Such a game does not exist at all, or at the very least is not in reasonably late stages of development, or very playable at this time.

Any rumors of screenshots coming soon are flat-out lies, and would certainly not represent a hypothetical product.

If such a game existed, it might theoretically be a small-scale evolution from the original Stair Dismount (http://secretexit.com/freeware/stairdismount) - with perhaps support for custom faces on Mr. Dismount. It would be foolish to add a button for taking screenshots into the game, that would only make it easy to... take screenshots. Any such speculations should be dismissed for being redundant.

[EDIT] We also deny that this officially unsanctioned screenshot would be official, or that the game would look like this.

http://secretexit.com/uploads/SDT_tease1.png

There is no further information to deny at this time.
http://secretexit.com/uploads/PRBUTTON.png

[EDIT] Nov 19th, 2009 - No point denying... Introducing the Stair Dismount iPhone Introduction video!

tAeTxPINttw

[EDIT] Nov 23rd, 2009 - Stair Dismount is launching on Thanksgiving week 2009.

sam the lion

03-09-2009, 08:53 AM

if it existed, i wouldn't buy this one.

1337brian

03-09-2009, 08:55 AM

This post never existed, but if it did, I would have to say you have piqued my interest...

pante

03-09-2009, 08:59 AM

that was strange :)

sam the lion

03-09-2009, 08:59 AM

mmm... I didn't try the pc version, but if I did, I wouldn't find the concept similar to ouch!

spawn12345

03-09-2009, 08:59 AM

wth did I just read :p

Ph4ntom4

03-09-2009, 09:09 AM

This was the worst developer post ever. I could not be less interested in the game if I was Bill Gates, and everything could dissuade me from my current opinion.

Ph4ntom4

03-09-2009, 09:11 AM

I also totally did not just find this thread on a completely different subject.

Stair Dismount 2 (http://secretexit.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7)

spmwinkel

03-09-2009, 09:16 AM

I did not just subscribe to this topic in order to be informed about new information here.

Gieve

03-09-2009, 09:28 AM

I've no interested in this what-so ever, and would not have found some videos of a possible technology test, because, as we all know it does not exist. but if it did exist I'd have to say I would not be interested in buying it at all, here are some videos that have nothing to do with this. lets hope we never hear any more on this complete non-event ever! ;)

CXeaWB44KXA

afHUPBHExws

there is absolutly no sign of Frand in the second video WHAT-SO EVER!

Ph4ntom4

03-09-2009, 09:31 AM

*snip*
Just to add for misinformation purposes, these videos definately ARE from the iPod Touch and iPhone version of the game.

jawslover

03-09-2009, 09:32 AM

weird thread lol

Gieve

03-09-2009, 09:33 AM

I Know they ARE, but as is was released for all to enjoy, there is no chance it could have changed into the event that is very much not in question.

this is not in any way hard to understand....... :S

soup

03-09-2009, 09:33 AM

move along please !

polyfonken

03-09-2009, 09:35 AM

Just to add for misinformation purposes, these videos definately ARE from the iPod Touch and iPhone version of the game.

of course, the iPhone definitely CAN run that many moving physics objects on-screen at the same time. furthermore, we WOULDN'T like to see Frand fall down stairs repeatedly and would never include him in a product we aren't going to release, ever.

GatorDeb

03-09-2009, 10:27 AM

O...

K...

Donburns99

03-09-2009, 11:02 AM

This thread did NOT just make my morning a little bit brighter.

No thanks.

CandyNJ66

03-09-2009, 11:10 AM

This thread did NOT just make my morning a little bit brighter.

No thanks.

I hear ya!

PlayScreen

03-09-2009, 11:11 AM

I like this thread.

Well Played!

<golf-clap>

nickels

03-09-2009, 11:18 AM

http://www.mentalacrobatics.com/think/images/mss.jpg

There was never a game about falling down stairs, and if there was we have no knowledge of it. This discussion is over!

1337brian

03-09-2009, 11:33 AM

http://www.mentalacrobatics.com/think/images/mss.jpg

there was never a game about falling down stairs, and if there was we have no knowledge of it. This discussion is over!

rofl! +1!

Adams Immersive

03-09-2009, 12:09 PM

That video is nothing like what happened to me getting out of bed this morning. And it didn't hurt at all.

superbad

03-09-2009, 12:11 PM

IM REALLY f-ing confused right now...

are we gonna have STAIR dismount for iphone or not?

polyfonken

03-09-2009, 01:31 PM

IM REALLY f-ing confused right now...

are we gonna have STAIR dismount for iphone or not?

why would you want to push ragdolls with familiar faces down the stairs? are you serious?

the folks here at secret exit are denying you the right to do so and even if such a thing were in development, and had been for quite some time, we would still deny you the right to play it on your iPhone it in the near future. about the only thing Frand would NOT deny is the fact that he's denying. or is that 'in denial'?

oh, your language is so hard.

Frand

03-09-2009, 01:35 PM

Whoever posted this alleged screenshot of a game not in development will be held accountable. We can not have this kind of misrepresentation happen online.

http://secretexit.com/uploads/SDT_tease1.png

If we were developing such a game, we totally deny it would look anything like that.

3Dave

03-09-2009, 01:36 PM

I deny, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that I am as pleased as punch at the non-announcement of this game. I also refuse to confirm that I wet myself a little bit upon reading this non-announcement and I am in no way shape or form prepared to admit that I will now be checking the App Store daily for the non-release of this title.

dannys95

03-09-2009, 02:58 PM

if such app did exist (which it did not) i would problably not get it. :)

dannys95

03-09-2009, 03:07 PM

If such app was made; it would not have the option to get your own picture from the iPod itself and use it as the custom face right? I'm so glad this is not being made. :)

polyfonken

03-09-2009, 03:11 PM

If such app was made; it would not have the option to get your own picture from the iPod itself and use it as the custom face right? I'm so glad this is not being made. :)

To make such a feature available would be foolish, of course we would limit the players to using a preset face. Frand-face, we'd like not to call it. However, the whole speculation about how that kind of a feature could be misused is largely academic since we deny all that irresponsible stuff. Hard.

dannys95

03-09-2009, 03:13 PM

To make such a feature available would be foolish, of course we would limit the players to using a preset face. Frand-face, we'd like not to call it. However, the whole speculation about how that kind of a feature could be misused is largely academic since we deny all that irresponsible stuff. Hard.

crap that's a hard one!!! hold on while my brain reboots to free up ram!

oh...ok i freed up some ram. that is now awesome!! any info on what would not be the price?

Seien

03-09-2009, 03:20 PM

crap that's a hard one!!! hold on while my brain reboots to free up ram!

oh...ok i freed up some ram. that is now awesome!! any info on what would not be the price?

I can tell you one thing for certain. Even if this were coming out, which we all know it isn't it would exist at an inexcusable, exuberant, unbearably high price. It would in no way be an acceptable thought that the price would be reasonable. I for one am just glad that I don't have to worry about this App coming, especially not soon. Phew... now that this is out of the way I have freed up some time to spend not thinking about LOST.

le'deuche123

03-09-2009, 03:22 PM

I will def "not" be buying this game...just like I did "not" love Zen Bound...Secret exit's "not" one of my favorite Devs...

dannys95

03-09-2009, 03:23 PM

I can tell you one thing for certain. Even if this were coming out, which we all know it isn't it would exist at an inexcusable, exuberant, unbearably high price. It would in no way be an acceptable thought that the price would be reasonable. I for one am just glad that I don't have to worry about this App coming, especially not soon. Phew... now that this is out of the way I have freed up some time to spend not thinking about LOST.

crap this is getting hard! so um....... if this were to come out; which it isn't; would it not be freeware as the pc version right?

superbad

03-09-2009, 03:24 PM

what the hell is NOT going on???

are guys not descendants of YODA? is there NOT a game existing? why is there NOT 100 "NOT's" used in this thread?

coconutbowling

03-09-2009, 03:24 PM

crap this is getting hard! so um....... if this were to come out; which it isn't; would it not be freeware as the pc version right?

Why speak hypotheticly? It's not coming out.

superbad

03-09-2009, 03:25 PM

Why speak hypotheticly? It's not coming out.

why do you not think NOT?

---

Frand! is this NOT published through Chillingo this time?

Is Cinammon Beats releasing then? or are we misinformed again this time?

dannys95

03-09-2009, 03:25 PM

Why speak hypotheticly? It's not coming out.

of course it's not coming out!

Frand

03-09-2009, 03:29 PM

Again, in no way whatsoever is Secret Level employing the tried and true strategy of reverse psychology to hype up this non-existent game.

Secret Level (http://www.secretlevel.com/index.shtml)? Yes, those guys resort to such strange things :D

floob

03-09-2009, 03:30 PM

I'm gonna freaking buy this game just b/c of your promotion here.. hahahah freaking awesome.
Keep up the great work!

dannys95

03-09-2009, 03:41 PM

Haha you did not screw up the reverse physiology thing by in the header in the first post not putting "Coming Soon".

superbad

03-09-2009, 03:44 PM

I'm gonna freaking buy this game just b/c of your promotion here.. hahahah freaking awesome.
Keep up the great work!

what promotion are you talking about??? this thread is to disprove a feature on toucharcade's frontpage.

it seems like it's secret exit and frand themselves spreading lies :mad:

(bwahahaaha)

dannys95

03-09-2009, 03:48 PM

Crap my brain just went into recovery mode.

CandyNJ66

03-09-2009, 03:52 PM

What the ? This is the strangest post I have ever seen on TA

superbad

03-09-2009, 03:56 PM

What the ? This is the strangest post I have ever seen on TA

why did you NOT think it's NOT strange? :confused:

ltldrummerboy

03-09-2009, 03:57 PM

I can not see this app rocketing to the #1 spot in the app store when it is (thankfully) not released.

It is undoubtedly one of the most inappropriate "games" on the Mac/PC platform and I for one am relieved to hear that Secret Exit will not be releasing this on mobile platforms for an even larger audience to be affected by it's unwholesome violence.

Tiltboy

03-09-2009, 04:17 PM

you got one future patient. i'll try it at home. the pc was ok, but this looks more hilarious. if decently priced, will be worth the money.

anduril_ukr

03-09-2009, 05:05 PM

though this game will not come out, if it would, i would definitely not endorse such a violant game. btw, i am not kidding. that previous statement was not not true, or was it not not not true. no, it was not, not not not true, was it not. just kidding, my previous statement was not not not not true. this whole statement is not ridiculous. whoever did not follow this is probably not confused, no, whoever did not not follow this is not not not confused.

:confused:i didn't not confuse myself there:confused:

that wasn't not not, a non-joke.

this thread is not the funniest thread yet
on TA.:D:D:D

DHrox

03-09-2009, 05:08 PM

anduril_ukr

03-09-2009, 05:09 PM

i will not ask everyone this question: what are your highest non-scores for the game that this non-existant game is not not going to be based on?

mine is not 145,000

anduril_ukr

03-09-2009, 05:11 PM

Here those crickets chirping? No? Well that means you confused them too.

that is not not my non-specialty:cool:

DHrox

03-09-2009, 05:13 PM

that is not not my non-specialty:cool:

I'm not not not not about to throw you down a set of stairs.:D

anduril_ukr

03-09-2009, 05:19 PM

I'm not not not not about to throw you down a set of stairs.:D

that is not very not not not not nice. but i don't know that you are not joking, so im not not not not worried:D

are you not not tired of me not not using too many nots? i hope i am not not not annoying you, cause that would make you not not angry. and not nobody doesn't want to not make dhrox not angry.

DHrox

03-09-2009, 05:20 PM

that is not very not not not not nice. but i don't know that you are not joking, so im not not not not worried:D

are you not not tired of me not not using too many nots? i hope i am not not not annoying you, cause that would make you not not angry.

I'm not not not not not not not angry. My head just hurts trying to read that.

anduril_ukr

03-09-2009, 05:24 PM

^^rotfnnl (rolling on the floor not not laughing), my head also doesn't not not not not not not not not not hurt.:D

DHrox

03-09-2009, 05:36 PM

^^rotfnnl (rolling on the floor not not laughing), my head also doesn't not not not not not not not not not hurt.:D

.................................................. .................................:(:(:(:eek::eek:

CandyNJ66

03-09-2009, 05:51 PM

why did you NOT think it's NOT strange? :confused:

Because I'm not a psycho and I find it disturbing. You can actually dowload the game from the freeware site and play it for yourself.

DHrox

03-09-2009, 05:53 PM

Because I'm not a psycho and I find it disturbing. You can actually dowload the game from the freeware site and play it for yourself.

It's not nearly as violent or disturbing as you may think. It's like playing with a lifeless interactive buddy.

CandyNJ66

03-09-2009, 05:55 PM

It's not nearly as violent or disturbing as you may think. It's like playing with a lifeless interactive buddy.

You got a point actually :)

Although it's not my thing, for anyone interested..

http://secretexit.com/freeware/stairdismount

superbad

03-09-2009, 05:56 PM

Because I'm not a psycho and I find it disturbing. You can actually dowload the game from the freeware site and play it for yourself.

I was half joking but to respond... What do you think of Pocket God where you throw pygmies to a volcano and harm them?

anduril_ukr

03-09-2009, 05:56 PM

Because I'm not a psycho and I find it disturbing. You can actually dowload the game from the freeware site and play it for yourself.

and you play pocket god, where you tortue cute innocent pygmies? :)

anduril_ukr

03-09-2009, 05:57 PM

lol, @superbad: we posted pretty much same thing at same time

CandyNJ66

03-09-2009, 05:58 PM

and you play pocket god, where you tortue cute innocent pygmies? :)

I don't throw them in the volcano. I make them dance (SO cute!) but I do admit to bopping them on the head with the coconuts so they can eat them. Yeah I did feed a few to the shark. :p

superbad

03-09-2009, 05:58 PM

lol, @superbad: we posted pretty much same thing at same time

great minds think alike but mine is faster so you phail :D

CandyNJ66

03-09-2009, 06:01 PM

and you play pocket god, where you tortue cute innocent pygmies? :)

People actually do have opinions that differ! :)

tonic

03-09-2009, 06:22 PM

oh...ok i freed up some ram. That is now awesome!! Any info on what would not be the price?

one.... Million ... Dollars

ltldrummerboy

03-09-2009, 06:27 PM

When was truck dismount released for Mac OS X? I've not been waiting for that for a long time!

hazmat95

03-09-2009, 06:40 PM

how much u bet this is just a scheme to cook up interest in thegame and theres an actually game in the works

Spartan12103

03-09-2009, 06:42 PM

Haha that was pretty creative and sure got my attention!

gscal

03-09-2009, 06:43 PM

It seems like Frand is not not trying to deny or hide something...

Frand

03-09-2009, 06:51 PM

We at Secret Exit take pride in the fact that we take integrity seriously. And we are most certainly not hiding anything: our denial is totally upfront!

Coral

03-09-2009, 06:59 PM

It warms my heart that such a vulgar and family destroying piece of "software" will not be making onto the appstore. The release would have most definitely caused the legions of Satan to descend onto the earth and devour everyone's souls. Thank you for saving the world.

tonic

03-11-2009, 09:05 AM

We at Secret Exit also deny that we would have done any focus group testing or made any changes based on feedback.

tonic

03-11-2009, 05:38 PM

aaand... we'd never try falling down stairs ourselves - we let our friends do that!

YouTube: video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6F6q0l_zVs)

Coral

03-11-2009, 05:45 PM

Haha! Great find. I am glad Secret Exit doesn't promote such activities.

dannys95

03-16-2009, 12:44 PM

So any idea when this is NOT coming? :D

gscal

03-16-2009, 12:46 PM

So any idea when this is NOT coming? :D

No. :D

dannys95

03-16-2009, 12:47 PM

No. :D

That does not suck. I can wait for this. :D

your personal robot

03-16-2009, 02:07 PM

I am not localizing this app into German, Frand.

dannys95

03-16-2009, 02:13 PM

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DieseliPhone

03-16-2009, 02:18 PM

It's a good thing that Secret Exit is so upfront about the non-existance of this app. At least this way there won't be the chance of a crazy riot when Apple takes soo long to not approve it ;);) - like that other game that everyone hated, Zen Bound!!!

Frand

03-16-2009, 03:01 PM

I am not localizing this app into German, Frand.

Is it "Der Dismount" or "Das Dismount" in German? :D
The verb must be "Dismountieren"...

your personal robot

03-16-2009, 03:30 PM

Is it "Der Dismount" or "Das Dismount" in German? :D
The verb must be "Dismountieren"...

I see, you don't need any help :D
And I also won't help you with a game which will never come up.

And if you prove me wrong, I wanna see YOUR translation :)

Spitfire3775

03-16-2009, 06:05 PM

After never seeing this, I didn't want a sandwich.

anduril_ukr

03-17-2009, 04:53 PM

If this non-existant game were to come out, would it have no new features?

Frand

03-17-2009, 05:15 PM

If this non-existant game were to come out, would it have no new features?

We have denied any speculation in the original post regarding the game features as pure conjecture at this time. Discussion about face support or screen capture should be particularly avoided.

gscal

03-17-2009, 07:51 PM

How come the Secret Exit website has an ad for the upcoming "Stair Dismount Touch" if it's not coming out, hmm?

tonic

03-18-2009, 04:34 PM

If somebody happens to visit GDC09 next week (game developers conference), and comes to our IGF mobile booth in expo area, and asks nicely, we would certainly not give a sneak peek of the game. :-P

tonic

04-02-2009, 02:09 AM

TouchArcade visited our booth at the GDC and took a bit of video from development build of the game, featuring some painful tumbling down the stairs.

Check it out here...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IcSiSBxeUE

2IcSiSBxeUE

Now you can share some conspiracy stories if that's actually just some fake stuff and not a real build. ;-)

dannys95

04-02-2009, 08:33 AM

TouchArcade visited our booth at the GDC and took a bit of video from development build of the game, featuring some painful tumbling down the stairs.

Check it out here...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IcSiSBxeUE

Now you can share some conspiracy stories if that's actually just some fake stuff and not a real build. ;-)

I say that's an earlier build and that the real build will be better. And we finally finished with backwards talking thing!!! :eek::eek:

DieseliPhone

04-02-2009, 09:06 AM

I didn't like that video, and that doesn't look like fun!! I would imagine that you don't have a launch window that you wouldn't share either, huh?!!! :rolleyes:

Frand

04-02-2009, 10:30 AM

While we can't really deny the existence of that video, although we can debate its authenticity, we are still not ready to announce a release date ;)

(Frankly put, the ngmoco project that was announced at GDC is taking priority now, so progress on Dismount will be slower.)

tonic

04-06-2009, 03:00 AM

I didn't like that video, and that doesn't look like fun!! I would imagine that you don't have a launch window that you wouldn't share either, huh?!!! :rolleyes:

I hope you were still backwards-talking! ...err... I mean I don't. Wait a minute.. I don't know if I am backwards-talking or not.

I just learned that wat is dutch for what!

spmwinkel

04-06-2009, 03:20 AM

True! And dat is Dutch for that. :)

Phil_Synowiec

04-13-2009, 09:06 PM

Here's an Article I just wrote from GDC:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_wCWBViuLPB8/SePs7Q31Z3I/AAAAAAAAAEM/eNaYz0bGXBM/s320/Stair3.jpg

Jetro Lauha from Secret Exit, who brought you Zen Bound were nice enough to show us a hands on of Stair Dismount. I don't have a video, but I do have a few screens they allowed me to show.

Keep in mind that this game is still in the works and they are still "trying to make it more beautiful with lighting/shadowing techniques" Lauha said.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_wCWBViuLPB8/SePrKJthz9I/AAAAAAAAADs/kg0tCoi8NG0/s320/Stair1.jpg

"- This is where you start from -- the power bar animates
like in original Stair Dismount, giving you the timing
challenge when pressing the Dismount button.

- Hit target position can be freely chosen by touching
the rag doll. Camera movement is also easy, just touch
somewhere else in the view and sweep with finger. It
feels quite natural. :)

- We have enhanced the rag doll a lot from the original
Dismount games. It has now a lot more realistic limits
to joint movement, and the upper body also twists when
doing a painful roll down the stairs."

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_wCWBViuLPB8/SePtKJSlszI/AAAAAAAAAEc/u80Ib4NPlxU/s320/Stair2.jpg

From what I've seen, I thought the game was pretty interesting, having never played the originals. Jetro showed me that you are about to snap a picture, or take one from your photo library, and the game will automatically put that picture on the head of the rag doll. This mean you can take pictures of your deepest, darkest enemies and throw them down a flight of stairs. No release date has been stated, but we can only wait.
Source:
http://philsiphoneblog.blogspot.com/2009/04/secret-exits-stair-dismount-coming-to.html

Coral

04-13-2009, 09:16 PM

*gasp* I had forgotten about this. Should be great.

anduril_ukr

04-13-2009, 10:06 PM

Though the topic of this thread is on the false rumor of Stair Dismount Touch . . . any news on the other game being made by Secret Exit, Cinnamon Beats?

theone1007

04-13-2009, 10:54 PM

Stop with the "if this game were real..."! It's getting on my nerves, and I think I'm going crazy! Are you developers even..NORMAL? Probably not because if you were, you would've never made Zen Bound, arguably the best iPhone gaming experience to date :)

tonic

05-01-2009, 11:43 AM

SlideToPlay-Phil, thanks for writing the preview stuff! ^_^

@anduril_ukr: We have not forgotten CB either, hoping to continue with it after a while. However, SDT is higher priority now. :>

@theone1007: Huh, what's "normal"?

I saved my friends' profile pictures from Facebook and I'm using those when testing Stair Dismount Touch! AND when showing it to other people. >:-D

1337brian

05-01-2009, 01:16 PM

If this game existed, would anyone know if they already submitted it to Apple yet? Obviously that wouldn't be possible since this game doesn't exist, but if it did when could we expect it to be out?....:confused:

dogmeat

05-01-2009, 01:31 PM

This post is a little too "cocky" for my tastes. Next time, try just giving the info without sounding so arrogant.

Alex_RKLS

05-01-2009, 03:19 PM

I am not wishing for a Truck Dismount game to complement this one.

Not at all.

1337brian

06-13-2009, 10:04 AM

Did WWDC '09 bring any new info on this title?...
Or has anyone heard anything new?... :confused:

dannys95

07-07-2009, 05:11 PM

Bump. I need news. Frand!!!

Frand

07-31-2009, 12:10 AM

Holidays are starting to be over, work is proceeding. Zen Bound 3GS and Stair Dismount Touch are receiving love and attention :)

Kind of worried about Stair Dismount Touch, since the news lately has been that Apple has refused 3D ragdoll games as objectionable content. Would be bad if that happened here as well.

VoodooVyper

07-31-2009, 12:17 AM

Didn't the holidays end like 24 days ago?
Wish I had extended holidays :p

Anywho, looking forward to STDs... or SDT. Hopefully there aren't any approval problems. How close are you guys to submission?

tonic

09-04-2009, 10:22 AM

Know what.

Frand just made the mistake of granting me official power to represent our company, so now I'm totally denying his denials! No more double-talking for me! Fear my pink underpants!

So yeah. The Stair Dismount is coming for iPhone (and iPod touch).
We ARE making the game.

What's even better, the previously screenshots indeed represent our work-in-progress/prototypes.

I'd like to take a moment to compare the original Stair Dismount (2002) to the new iPhone version -- just to see how much better it already is, and will be.

Here's an image from the original:
http://secretexit.com/uploads/SDT_compare_to_original_1.jpg

And here's a similar camera angle from the new game: (still work-in-progress)
http://secretexit.com/uploads/SDT_compare_to_original_2.jpg

Just from these two images can be said a lot...

- We have a new ragdoll, which behaves way cooler than the original one. For example there's now proper joint limits for limbs and the torso can also twist a bit.

- Ground is fogged which is then mixed to a nice blurry background with depth of field, just to have something nice in there but not stand out too too much.

- Extra UI clutter is put to a separate menu (opens from the wrench icon). Some more buttons pops from bottom of screen when dismounting starts, allowing control.

- After thinking long and hard we decided to keep the power bar system, but made it nice and round attached to the dismount button, rather than being at some ad hoc location in other side of screen. (I don't know what I was thinking originally... Or maybe I just wasn't?!)

- You can select the face to use on the ragdoll (select image from Photos).

- The aiming arrow can be pointed freely at the body by touching/dragging the position, not just pre-selected body parts. The transparent arrow also shows partly through the ragdoll in a different way compared to seeing it directly, so you always see where it is going to hit.

- Camera control is also more intuitive, performed by touch-dragging from screen edge or using pinch gesture. Camera follows the ragdoll when falling down.

There's a lot more to come and we'll be posting more news and images soon!

tonic

09-08-2009, 05:04 AM

If there's some secret wishes you have for the game, now it's also a good time to give some suggestions... Some popular requests such as the custom face have already been added as can be seen. :D

tonic

09-10-2009, 05:43 AM

When making a game with 3D physics for iPhone, lot of the processing power (CPU) have to be dedicated to the simulation rather than crunching graphics... We're still doing our best to find the fine line and still have the game visuals stand out as best as possible.

We're working to get some sweet ambient occlusion approximation (both static & real-time!) to make the scene lighting look better. Here's a little teaser image of just the AO part of lighting stairs, without textures.

http://secretexit.com/uploads/SDT_AO_stairs.png

indyraider4

09-10-2009, 05:53 AM

indyraider4

09-10-2009, 05:55 AM

also, what ever happened to cinnamon beats?

polyfonken

09-10-2009, 06:04 AM

If it were being made, I would love to be able to move the camera freely, via touchscreen, and have many optional scenery backgrounds to choose from, and maybe even unlock. That would be awesome if it were to happen.

spinning and zooming the camera via touch is already implemented, and i think there are three different background schemes at the moment. damn we're good!

and cinnamon beats, it might be coming out some day, current version has all the sounds and graphics (i worked on those for a long time) but it isn't tight enough to meet our mad quality standards. before it can be released, it needs to be optimized real good so that it's satisfying and reliable to play with.

tonic

09-21-2009, 08:43 AM

I just came back from lapland! (visited northern Finland and Norway)

Meanwhile, here's some head measuring of Frand. :p He has such a weird anatomy, which is what makes new Mr. Dismount so intriguing.

http://secretexit.com/uploads/SDT_DamageFrandMeasure.jpg

Thanks to polyfonken for mad photoshop skillz.

/me runs away before Frand notices...

Jaytee

09-21-2009, 09:08 AM

If there's some secret wishes you have for the game, now it's also a good time to give some suggestions... Some popular requests such as the custom face have already been added as can be seen. :D
Secret wishes? None except that the game finally come out (and come with a secret truck mode).

tonic

09-22-2009, 05:15 AM

Secret wishes? None except that the game finally come out (and come with a secret truck mode).

When talking about secrets / easter eggs ... how much you people actually like such things or expect some to be there?

Past projects, which I have been part of, have varied from zero easter eggs to "quite a many"... also sometimes there's features which are implemented but not actually used. This happened e.g. in Sauna Dismount prototype game (http://secretexit.com/freeware/prototypes/saunadismount), where some users actually noticed it's possible to open the scene file (it's just xml) and make different scenario including dynamic obstacles (which weren't used in the original sauna dismount). And one user even turned the Sauna Dismount into a Stair Dismount. :-)

Frand

09-23-2009, 12:12 PM

Whoah, I make those pink frames look good.

In a show of appreciation, please remind me to fire our engineers and graphics guys. This will naturally push back our development schedule a bit, but at least it makes me feel better.

As a side note, I can assure you all that vegetables were harmed during the making of the sound effects.

tonic

09-30-2009, 04:20 AM

Oh yeah. Now the visuals are starting to be shaped up pretty nicely.

Here's new update about work in progress -- before/after images:

http://secretexit.com/uploads/SDT_compare_to_original_2.jpg http://secretexit.com/uploads/SDT_newstairs.png

The stairs are now textured which makes them feel more real, and the previous teaser of ambient occlusion is tweaked further and applied to the scene. Hope you like the difference... :)

Oh, and this change doesn't really affect performance. Adding the texture is a very minor performance hit, but it's offset by the fact that lighting is actually now simpler (no more "dynamic" sky light for the stair).

LeFishy

10-02-2009, 06:37 AM

This is almost as awesome news... Yes I only discovered it today... as Canabalt coming out :>

Also I approve of your humour. Please keep it up.

tonic

10-30-2009, 04:30 AM

Just a little bump ... to tell you that we're still working with the game full speed ahead, just polishing it up... :D

Frand

11-09-2009, 12:08 PM

Yes, Stair Dismount is nearing completion. It's often challenging to work as a team of feature-creeping perfectionists, but hopefully it's worth it when the game finally comes out.

What started out as a small game in the smallest sense of the word has become a bigger project as time went by. Our original scope was nothing but a polished remake of the PC version of Stair Dismount from years back. But as we kept going it was obvious we wanted to make it bigger and better.

- It used to be a single set of stairs, now there are multiple scenarios.
- We figured it'd be fun to let people use a photo as a face, but even that escalated (more on that later)
- Sound effects were all redone by abusing poor helpless vegetables
- The user interface has gone through a number of iterations to be finally something we're satisfied with

Okay, so it's not a gigantic project, but it's still something that's managed to keep our team busy for months. (And we're still busy with the final stretch!)

Will it be liked or ignored? We have no idea. We know it's probably the most polished ragdoll game, and we're quite proud of the quality of our simulation (Stairflight Simulator! Drum roll!). It'll be interesting to go up against the competition.

Here's where we are now, hope you enjoy:

http://secretexit.com/uploads/SD_pre_01.png

http://secretexit.com/uploads/SD_pre_02.png

http://secretexit.com/uploads/SD_pre_03.png

colorsound

11-09-2009, 12:15 PM

Hey frand

Two Questions I have been dying to find out -

#1 - Will Stair Dismount for the iPod make it out this year?

#2 - What the heck ever happened to Cinnamon Beats?

Frand

11-09-2009, 12:27 PM

Hey frand

Two Questions I have been dying to find out -

#1 - Will Stair Dismount for the iPod make it out this year?

#2 - What the heck ever happened to Cinnamon Beats?

1) We're on the final stretch right now, and hoping to submit soon-ish (developer speak for an undetermined period of time which the managers assume to be shorter than the engineers do). As soon as we've got our submission done, it's really in Apple's hands to see if we make it out in 2009 or 2010 - the number of submissions for the holidays must be huge.

2) Cinnamon Beats would not be a good game, but it can be a really fun toy for making music. But in order to get there, it needs a lot of UI and functionality work, something we will (probably) return to after we see what happens with Stair Dismount and the new Zen Bound.

colorsound

11-09-2009, 09:51 PM

1) We're on the final stretch right now, and hoping to submit soon-ish (developer speak for an undetermined period of time which the managers assume to be shorter than the engineers do). As soon as we've got our submission done, it's really in Apple's hands to see if we make it out in 2009 or 2010 - the number of submissions for the holidays must be huge.

2) Cinnamon Beats would not be a good game, but it can be a really fun toy for making music. But in order to get there, it needs a lot of UI and functionality work, something we will (probably) return to after we see what happens with Stair Dismount and the new Zen Bound.

Okay, thanks

I will really be looking forward to the new Stair Dismount and Zen Bound (I assume you are referring to the 3Gs version of Zen Bound - only thing new is graphics?)

Frand

11-11-2009, 04:17 PM

Because we love making announcements, we announce the sequel to the prequel! (Pre-purchase of prequel not required.)

LEDGE DISMOUNT!

The awesome press release. (http://secretexit.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57)

And a tip of the hat to Mobigame and Nalin Sharma.

Boardumb

11-11-2009, 10:27 PM

Frand

11-18-2009, 04:25 PM

Alrighty. Submission done and a little breather taken. Now it's a matter of hoping for the best while waiting for the approval process.

The official trailer will be making its way to a youtube near you in the coming days.

Such an empty feeling when there's nothing left to deny :)

eggzbacon

11-18-2009, 05:04 PM

Yayayaya

Frand

11-19-2009, 04:29 AM

Introducing... the Stair Dismount iPhone Introduction video!

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Prab

11-19-2009, 04:48 AM

lol!! Awesome video! The sound effects are really from abusing vegetables? lol :p
(read that here: http://toucharcade.com/2009/11/16/a-look-at-secret-exits-stair-dismount-yes-its-still-coming/)

polyfonken

11-19-2009, 05:26 AM

lol!! Awesome video! The sound effects are really from abusing vegetables? lol :p

besides veggies i also used cardboard, pencils, sofa pillows, secret ingredient x and myself. my chest and arms hurt for days after recording the sounds. :)

Prab

11-19-2009, 05:53 AM

Lol!!! I'll buy the game just for that dedication alone :p

tonic

11-19-2009, 07:07 AM

Lol!!! I'll buy the game just for that dedication alone :p

You should have heard the raw unedited cut of authoring the sounds... :D

polyfonken first saying "Hit to head", followed by bunch of *thump* *smack* *thud* sounds.. then, a long deeep sigh and voice just continuing with "hit to upper body", and more *smack* *clump* sounds...

Prab

11-19-2009, 08:32 AM

Hahaha... That sounds superrr fun :p

zatoichi

11-20-2009, 02:08 PM

I can't wait. I'm deleting other games and music now to make room. S.D. Has had a prominent shortcut on my P.C. Desktop for a long while. Can't wait to pay real cash money to the deserving devs.

I'll tell you what I'd like to see though...a ragdoll with reflexes. None of my friends would take an involuntary plunge down the stairs without at least covering their heads. Maybe too much to ask...I'm buying this anyway...but what about a consious ragdoll...hands out, flailing, at least until knocked unconsious. So much more satisfying. I.M.O.
Cheers!

Frand

11-20-2009, 02:30 PM

I'll tell you what I'd like to see though...a ragdoll with reflexes. None of my friends would take an involuntary plunge down the stairs without at least covering their heads. Maybe too much to ask...I'm buying this anyway...but what about a consious ragdoll...hands out, flailing, at least until knocked unconsious. So much more satisfying. I.M.O.
Cheers!

You are absolutely correct. Even professional dismounters soften the impacts by reaching with their arms... ;)

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And truth be told, there are some technical solutions out there already to give smarter behaviors to ragdolls. The expensive way is to use Euphoria from Naturalmotion (look it up, the demoreel is really nice), but for our noodle budget it's not really an option :)

Sumotori Dreams is also an excellent example of ragdolls with behaviors.

In any case, improved behaviors, improved social features, improved scenarios... all this is possible and something we're looking forward to implementing, but it simply needs support from the gaming community in shape of both feedback and (more importantly) purchases. With the recent stories on iPhone piracy, we'd be lying if we said the months ahead don't look worrisome.

zatoichi

11-20-2009, 04:00 PM

Like I said, I'm ready to shell out my hard earned cash right now. You get wharvyou pay for, eh? Keep up the good work!

Prab

11-21-2009, 12:24 AM

toot toot! :D

http://toucharcade.com/2009/11/20/upcoming-game-videos-driver-skater-nation-stair-dismount/

Frand

11-23-2009, 12:15 PM

See, our management (me) had a miscommunication with the marketing department (me) who has never listened to those who do the real work (the other guys).

This in turn lead to a conflict in the financial department (me) which escalated into a strategic re-appraisal of the launch strategy of our upcoming hit product.

After a careful defenestration of the chairman of the board (me) and a rapid ascension to power by the working class (those other guys again) two things became clear and are hereby announced:

1) Stair Dismount is coming out this week. (Yes, Thanksgiving week!)
2) We're already continuing our work on the game.

This has been a public announcement by Secret Exit, the company where things happen and games get made.

Prab

11-23-2009, 12:33 PM

Wooo~~~ Thats pretty awesome news :D

rich_952000

11-23-2009, 12:40 PM

Thanks for the update, I WILL be purchasing this as soon as it "tumbles" into the AppStore.:)

enkein

11-23-2009, 02:11 PM

yay! this game will be blow !!! :D

monk666

11-23-2009, 04:45 PM

Hmar9333

11-23-2009, 05:01 PM

No offence, but Max Injury looks better...

zatoichi

11-23-2009, 05:07 PM

None taken...and no, it doesn't.

Gryphon23

11-23-2009, 05:14 PM

No offence, but Max Injury looks better...

I tried max injury lite. The sounds are just stupid!

zatoichi

11-23-2009, 05:24 PM

Mac injury is a perfect example of what happens when a well intentioned, technically skilled but unartistically gifted hack tries to imitate the work of the master. Many of the masses will be satisfied, but the true collectors secretly giggle.

Frand

11-23-2009, 05:26 PM

If someone actually followed the game's advice and pushed someone over a flight of stairs thereby killing said victim. Who would be sued first? Apple or Secret Exit??? :confused:

I deny having any involvement in the abovementioned homicide scenario or anything even close to it.

We explicitly state that Dismounting should be left to computer simulations or officially licensed professionals.

Considering how detailed our virtual example of a "what if" scenario would be in case of a manually assisted descent, it should be considered a warning in any case. It is doubtful anyone would assume the Dismountee to emerge unscathed from the event.

monk666

11-23-2009, 07:32 PM

We explicitly state that Dismounting should be left to computer simulations or officially licensed professionals.

Considering how detailed our virtual example of a "what if" scenario would be in case of a manually assisted descent, it should be considered a warning in any case. It is doubtful anyone would assume the Dismountee to emerge unscathed from the event.

wow, good luck explaining that to apple. Don't overestimate their employees' IQ or logical reasoning abilities... :p