a couple of general questions

[junkster08]

1)Whats the best program recommended for making games?
2) If i create a game and put it in the appstore for a set price do I actually get the cash or apple does?

note: i have a written down project and ready to complete a game far better than reign of swords... i just need these 2 questions answered b4 i proceed.

[jlake02]

You choose the price. Not sure on #1

[Rockey04]

1: You can only make iPod Touch and iPhone games with Apple's SDK. Downloading (http://developer.apple.com/iphone/) the SDK is free. Putting stuff on the App Store requires you to be in the developers (http://developer.apple.com/) program, which costs a one-time fee of $100.

2: You choose price. Apple gets 30% of profit. App Store is the only place to sell games and apps.

[Hitman45]

You set the price and get 70% Use the iPhone SDK. Its on apples website.

[junkster08]

thanks for all the responses... $100 fee is gay... just wondering how many ppl are subscribed to that and why even bother subscribing when u can use your freind or another companies one... any suggestions there?

[dudehuge]

thanks for all the responses... $100 fee is gay...

It's actually $99, and no it's not gay. You have access to millions of potential buyers. That's a godsend for indie devs without the distribution power of a huge publisher like EA.

just wondering how many ppl are subscribed to that and why even bother subscribing when u can use your freind or another companies one... any suggestions there?

Why bother? Are you stupid? $99 is nothing, that is if you have a job. If you go to another company they will have a cut on your revenues. If you go to your friend, it goes straight to his bank account. All the info is on Apple's site, go read it before you draw you "insightful" conclusions.

Just make sure your shit is better than Reign of Swords, you already dug a hole and you don't even have an alpha build. Big mistake rookie.

[mek]

first, $99 is nothing, compared to the thousands you have to pay to be able to program on other platforms

two, i dont know how well you are with objective-C and touch cocoa, but that is what the iphone programming is...

also the SDK is free, but it will only work on a mac OSX system..so if you have a pc, forget about it or buy a mac mini..but that will cost you at least another $800 right off the bat

then, from my experience, it took me over 200 hour, about two months to learn how to program on the device where i can actually write a real application

a game like reign of swords was probably done by a team

and not to upset you or anything, but although you have an idea
the reality is there are more ideas than programmers and for all the programmers, they have plenty of ideas, and not enough time to program them all

i wish the best to you
but from my experience over the last two months
it is not easy
i would recommend that you have some programming experience, are good with logic and have a lot of time to devote to this
then when you are all ready, have your app programmed, there is a 52 page process of having your app digitially signed and packaged for distribution, and you have a bunch of contracts to sign and...just good fun

then...any money that you make, considering you probably haven't established a company structure like an LLC to reduce your liability...you will have to pay taxes on as a sole prop. or partnership.....then their are local, state, and federal taxes

a lot of things to consider

[Little White Bear Studios]

Junkster08,

Listen to mek. He/she knows what they're talking about. And yes, $99 is nothing. Most games in the Top 100 games list make at least that much every day, even after Apple's cut. The majority of them make much much more than $99 a day.

[Eric5h5]

my game should be out by early December barring setbacks

If you mean early December 2011, then I'd say that's about right. I'm not being sarcastic, just realistic. Considering that it's obvious you have zero experience in this area, it will take you a long time before you can even think about making a game better than Reign of Swords, much less actually do it. I don't expect you to listen to me, but if you do continue on this road, you'll find out for yourself. Just giving you a head's up.

--Eric

[dudehuge]

Junkster08,

Listen to mek. He/she knows what they're talking about. And yes, $99 is nothing. Most games in the Top 100 games list make at least that much every day, even after Apple's cut. The majority of them make much much more than $99 a day.

MEK! I never knew you were a He/She, cheeky bastard! JK little bear.

Yeah mek knows his stuff. :)

[mek]

MEK! I never knew you were a He/She, cheeky bastard! JK little bear.

Yeah mek knows his stuff. :)

you guys are always picking on me....i haven't forgotten the entire troll thang yet

[junkster08]

I appreciate all the responses. I am not getting cocky whatsoever i know its a tough process.. im just trying to get as much info as possible.

and fyi im not completely inexperienced... i have made 3 map (1 is still very popular) in wc3 tft

[Armbruster]

I appreciate all the responses. I am not getting cocky whatsoever i know its a tough process.. im just trying to get as much info as possible.

and fyi im not completely inexperienced... i have made 3 map (1 is still very popular) in wc3 tft
Map making is NOWHERE CLOSE TO PROGRAMMING.

I have all these noobs that want to make big modifications for games, and when asked what they have done previously, they 'made' maps. I know 9 year old kids who make maps, and they are the best things you'll ever see.

Regarding your proper English skills, and the questions you're asking, it's not going to be easy. Before you look for software to make applications for the iPhone and who sets the price, how about going out and buying Objective-C For Dummies Guide, or a book like that and study up. It's a really, really hard language to learn for a beginner who's never programmed C before. With all the classes, exec's and what not, you'll be better off playing games instead of making them.

Even if you do, you might end up like out buddy AAApplications, with their latest installment of Papi Lander.

[junkster08]

Map making is NOWHERE CLOSE TO PROGRAMMING.

I have all these noobs that want to make big modifications for games, and when asked what they have done previously, they 'made' maps. I know 9 year old kids who make maps, and they are the best things you'll ever see.

Regarding your proper English skills, and the questions you're asking, it's not going to be easy. Before you look for software to make applications for the iPhone and who sets the price, how about going out and buying Objective-C For Dummies Guide, or a book like that and study up. It's a really, really hard language to learn for a beginner who's never programmed C before. With all the classes, exec's and what not, you'll be better off playing games instead of making them.

Even if you do, you might end up like out buddy AAApplications, with their latest installment of Papi Lander.

if u read carefully i never said im experienced... i said not completely inexperienced

[Little White Bear Studios]

if u read carefully i never said im experienced... i said not completely inexperienced

I wish you luck, junkster08. But I must say, however hard you think making a game is going to be, multiply it by a million. It will be very hard. And it will take a very long time. That's why most people start out with small games. For someone who's never programmed before, a small little puzzle game could take months.

[ITrocks]

I wish you luck, junkster08. But I must say, however hard you think making a game is going to be, multiply it by a million. It will be very hard. And it will take a very long time. That's why most people start out with small games. For someone who's never programmed before, a small little puzzle game could take months.

And take advice from him, he's got an accomplished game in TanZen, like mek with Hiqup. They obviously know what they're talking about and have experienced the up and downs of making an app, selling it etc. Kudos to both of you guys!

[mek]

[QUOTE=ITrocks;5920] like mek with Hiqup.QUOTE]

I just want to clarify that i did not develop hiqup
but that developer did put a lot of time and effort into that game..thats for sure

i have not revealed what apps i have developed as they are behind schedule, but nearing release, they are almost a new genre (not game, but app) that haven't been available in the app store as of yet, that is why i haven't released what it is, until i finish up coding it...

[moopf]

And take advice from him, he's got an accomplished game in TanZen, like mek with Hiqup. They obviously know what they're talking about and have experienced the up and downs of making an app, selling it etc. Kudos to both of you guys!

mek wrote Hiqup? You learn something new everyday ;)

As for the answers on this post - well yeah, I agree 100%. To the original poster, you really have no idea what it takes - that's really obvious. You'll find plenty of help on iphone dev forums and I suggest you ask for it when needed and take it when given. Also, read the documentation, it's really good (although not an exciting bedtime read :) ) I'd suggest raising your expectations of how hard this is going to be. Sure, you can rush something out in a short period of time, but to do it right takes time. And even then, there's no guarantee you'll make anything from it ;)

[ITrocks]

mek wrote Hiqup? You learn something new everyday ;)

As for the answers on this post - well yeah, I agree 100%. To the original poster, you really have no idea what it takes - that's really obvious. You'll find plenty of help on iphone dev forums and I suggest you ask for it when needed and take it when given. Also, read the documentation, it's really good (although not an exciting bedtime read :) ) I'd suggest raising your expectations of how hard this is going to be. Sure, you can rush something out in a short period of time, but to do it right takes time. And even then, there's no guarantee you'll make anything from it ;)

Omg, i'm so sorry!! I must've mixed you and mek up. Sorry, mate! I meant moopf. Sorry again.

[NotYou]

Now mek's a plagiarizing he/she. This keeps getting better.;)

[moopf]

Omg, i'm so sorry!! I must've mixed you and mek up. Sorry, mate! I meant moopf. Sorry again.

Lol, no worries. :)

[Eric5h5]

and fyi im not completely inexperienced... i have made 3 map (1 is still very popular) in wc3 tft

I'm sorry, but you are completely inexperienced. Making a WC3 map has almost nothing to do with actual programming. I don't want to discourage you, but if you actually want to do this, then you have to start small. Make "hello world" programs, then make pong clones (but please don't submit them to the app store ;) ), keep working your way up, and in a few years you can make your Reign of Swords killer.

--Eric

[mek]

Now mek's a plagiarizing he/she. This keeps getting better.;)

dont forget troll

yes moopf wrote hiqup

and i am a horrible horrible person

[vandy1997]

I have a feeling that mek is the dev at AAApplications. Please fess up now so that we won't have to find out later!! :D mek is out of "con-troll"!! :D At least you can follow the Red Sox through the post-season (maybe next year?).

I'm just kidding, ok?


dont forget troll

yes moopf wrote hiqup

and i am a horrible horrible person

[NotYou]

I have a feeling that mek is the dev at AAApplications. Please fess up now so that we won't have to find out later!! :D mek is out of "con-troll"!! :D At least you can follow the Red Sox through the post-season (maybe next year?).

I'm just kidding, ok?

Yeah, we need to put stop to these shenanigans now! There can be no piece in the world as long as mek running free and out of control.

[Little White Bear Studios]

And take advice from him, he's got an accomplished game in TanZen, like mek with Hiqup. They obviously know what they're talking about and have experienced the up and downs of making an app, selling it etc. Kudos to both of you guys!

Thanks, ITrocks!

[mek]

I have a feeling that mek is the dev at AAApplications. Please fess up now so that we won't have to find out later!! :D mek is out of "con-troll"!! :D At least you can follow the Red Sox through the post-season (maybe next year?).

I'm just kidding, ok?

if only i was as talented as the developer of AAAplications

my app actually involves bobbly heads of toucharcade users, allowing you to pinch and poke, quite possibly slap, and your user interface hand is that of a troll hand....the sweetest revenge not so much, but it is something to wake up to every morning playing it...j/k

[dudehuge]

And take advice from him, he's got an accomplished game in TanZen, like mek with Hiqup. They obviously know what they're talking about and have experienced the up and downs of making an app, selling it etc. Kudos to both of you guys!

@mek
Damn mek, first you were out of con-troll, then you were a He/She, and now you travelled back in time, killed moopf and took Hiqup for yourself. Damn you can't make this sh!t up.

[Armbruster]

Is there even a pong clone tutorial out there for iPhone Development SDK?