Official Car Jack Streets preview thread

[Paul@Tag]

I'd like to pull all the Car Jack Streets pre-release stuff into one thread to save chocking up the rest of the forum with various Car Jack threads. I'll now use this thread with all the latest news in the run up to release.

To get started we have revamped the Car Jack Streets game website. You can check it out here:


www.carjackstreets.com (http://www.carjackstreets.com)

We'll be doing all sorts of fun things over the coming weeks including promo code giveaways on our Twitter and Facebook pages, a 'warts and all' behind the scenes video diary on YouTube plus the usual release of screen shots and game-play movies. We also have a very special competition based upon in game performance of which there will be news very soon.

Cheers
Paul

PS check out the characters page on the Car Jack website to see the in-game incarnation of our "get in the game" competition winner Marto Tonev!

2QCN7ueKLH4

PPS the first preview screenshot is included on page 8

[Hatteras]

I'm dreading these waiting days!

Will there be a lot of people on the streets?

P.S. How' your wife doing? I saw in the Dev thread that she was due soon

[Paul@Tag]

Hey Hatteras good to hear from you and thanks for asking about the family. We are still waiting for #2 child to appear but it could be any day now... hopefully we will be celebrating the safe delivery of two babies this month - the human one and Car Jack!

There will be more people on the streets during the day than the night. We still have to finalise the balance - as you can image the more pedestrians the easier certain things are.... like the road kill felony achievement and the cult leader bonus. We do have a good number of pedestrian types so hopefully you'll approve - if not then we'd certainly welcome your thoughts for the planned updates!

Cheers
P

[rich_952000]

I'm still a Tag Games supporter, tweet lurker and CJS awaiter. I entered a features contest, and recieved a pm back that was somewhat cryptic, from you Paul, so I prob didn't win huh ?

[addict4apps]

So what's the deal with the 3139 stuff and the green lit stuff on your twitter? I can keep a secret :)

[Spartan12103]

I joined up on Facebook. Name of Ben.

[Sparks]

When will it be outttttttttt

[Paul@Tag]

Hey Rich if you didn't get a reply then do assume that you didn't win. We'll have plenty more promo codes to give away in the coming weeks so please do try again!

As far as release goes then I can't really talk about that with any certainty because of the review process... I will say that in terms of content we have the ok so no worries on that account. We are aiming for a 31st March release (hence the cryptic Twitter post!) but again it depends on how this week goes and how smoothly we get through the review process.

I will say that although we have made rapid progress towards completion we are not going to ship until we are happy with the game - we have too much riding on this as our first major iPhone title!

Cheers
P

[emb531]

Wow, this looks amazing now with all the preview artwork and vehicles :D Can't wait :D

[snow_mani]

I checked out the website for more info. It looks good. But I did notice that there was not one female character...

Edit: Just to clarify I'm not criticising. I just happened to notice and was curious about this.

[inferi22]

There will be more people on the streets during the day than the night. We still have to finalise the balance - as you can image the more pedestrians the easier certain things are.... like the road kill felony achievement and the cult leader bonus. We do have a good number of pedestrian types so hopefully you'll approve - if not then we'd certainly welcome your thoughts for the planned updates!
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My idea :)

[Rohan Dalal]

:)oh man does this look good :D
ill just have to get this also..even though i have payback :)

[Rocketman919]

My idea :)

Actually it was mine if you recall... You complained about how it was yours and the gracious Paul decided to give in to your whining and give you a code (a bad choice i think... can never give in to a baby's demands)

[Hatteras]

Hey again Paul

I just downloaded GTA 2, a real gem you got there. I am certain CJS can live up to it. Whoevers idea it was, it will be a good idea to have more people during the day. I hope there's a lot, too, like GTA 2

P.S. What's with with you and all of your clown killings you're talking about? You really don't like clowns...

P.P.S. My thoughts in future updates???? I'm flattered! ;O

[Paul@Tag]

There are no main women characters primarily because with missions being proceduarally created it caused all sorts of issues with the localisation text strings.

Hopefully for Car Jack 2 when we have a bigger budget and a bit more time we'll address this... as we all know some of the biggest criminal minds of our time have been women!

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[steviet]

hey paul

any clues of the intro price yet? trying to justify to myself getting let's golf, rasta monkey and cjs plus any other big releases all in the same month!!!

also, youve mentioned comps for promo codes etc. any plans for competitions for people in the uk?

[Crimsonpaw]

Paul, I listened to your iPGN interview yesterday (while tearing out a wall ironically, does CJS promote destruction?) and I have to say that even just HEARING the work you've put in there has exceeded my expectations. I have high hopes for CJS and know that this game won't disappoint!

Are you expecing to pick up GTA:CW when it comes out to see if you can borrow some stuff for CJS2? I have no doubt that CJS will turn a huge profit for TAG and hopefully kick off some more amazing projects.

FYI, for those wanting to check out the interview of Paul on iPGN, get it here: http://www.iphonegamenetwork.com/tags-paul-farley-talks-car-jack-streets

[Paul@Tag]

Hey Crimsonpaw - yes I'm very much looking forward to Chinatown Wars, its looks like its going to be an amazing game and I do hope that one day Tag gets the chance to make a game as ambitous and polished!

We've just uploaded the first of a number of developer diary videos to our YouTube site. This first one is just a fun intro to the team but future ones will have lots more behind the scenes material about the making of Car Jack on iPhone and iPhone development in general.

Hope you like it ;-)

Car Jack Streets - Development Diary Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC2I46cG-2c)

[inferi22]

Actually it was mine if you recall... You complained about how it was yours and the gracious Paul decided to give in to your whining and give you a code (a bad choice i think... can never give in to a baby's demands)

Wow get over it I couldn't read your pm to Paul and I thought of it too
And I was only a stinkin junior member who never read the rules like most of the junior members on today

[RaZrVIN]

Paul, I too listened to the interview and you and the interviewer made me laugh a couple of times :D Hehe, anyway, I'm so impressed about the amount of time, work, and effort you all put into the game. I'm definitely going to be one of the first buyers, and I do hope that you get large amounts of money :) By the way, congrats on your two babies, your human one (has he/she been born yet?) and CJS! :cool:

[jazzy911]

Getting pretty excited about this game now but a bit concerned we haven't seen any screens or video of game-play yet. All I want is big explosions and lots of blood!

Kudos to the team at Tag though for all the effort going in on the game and also things like the webpage and developer videos. It's great to have developers coming on here and engaging with the iPhone games community.

Hope this game is a big hit for them so they can finish Astro Ranch!

Jazz

[Mattman]

This game looks amazing, I appreciate all the work you and the team are putting in Paul, and I hope it pays off! :D

[Hatteras]

Well, it's official, I suck at GTA2

I hope I'm good at CJS

EDIT: Will there be an indacator for which you can see if the cops are onto you? Also, can you hide somewhere for a little while so the cops will leave? In GTA2 (Did you help make it? I know you helped GTA1, I don't know how to get rid of the cops...)

2nd EDIT: Will there be more features in the iPhone CJS than the other mobile ones?

3rd EDIT (sorry!): Will it be a fully destructible world? Like knocking over fences and such. I found it almost ridiculous in Payback and GTA2 that you can't run over a fence, when in real life, this would obviously happen. And, can you walk into any building? I could see this not being a possibility because it would be a lot bigger.

[Sambo110]

In real life hitting a fence could be really bad, it depends on the kind of fence. You wouldn't just go straight through it and it goes flying though. Anyway, I like how the graphics look and can't wait for this to get released.

[Mattman]

In real life hitting a fence could be really bad, it depends on the kind of fence. You wouldn't just go straight through it and it goes flying though. Anyway, I like how the graphics look and can't wait for this to get released.

Agreed, but I dont play games to play real life ;)

[Paul@Tag]

So I'm wondering what people are thinking about GTA: Chinatown Wars? I haven't played it yet but by all accounts the reviews have been excellent bar a few issues with control and story.

We only have 60 open bugs left to clear in Car Jack (thats not many in case you are wondering!) but are having a few issues with some of the audio and connected functionality. We have SO many sound effects we're running out of memory so quite a bit of work still needed there to cram as much in as possible. Still we are looking good to get the game submitted to Apple very soon.

Watch this space.

PS we will be uploading a game-play video to the Tag YouTube channel (http://www.youtube.com/taggames) and www.carjackstreets.com (http://www.carjackstreets.com) along with a load of new screenshots so be sure to take a look!

[emb531]

So I'm wondering what people are thinking about GTA: Chinatown Wars? I haven't played it yet but by all accounts the reviews have been excellent bar a few issues with control and story.

We only have 60 open bugs left to clear in Car Jack (thats not many in case you are wondering!) but are having a few issues with some of the audio and connected functionality. We have SO many sound effects we're running out of memory so quite a bit of work still needed there to cram as much in as possible. Still we are looking good to get the game submitted to Apple very soon.

Watch this space.

PS we will be uploading a game-play video to the Tag YouTube channel (http://www.youtube.com/taggames) and www.carjackstreets.com (http://www.carjackstreets.com) along with a load of new screenshots so be sure to take a look!

Are you planning on uploading the in-game video today? Excited to see how the game looks when animated, the comic book style graphics are amazing :eek:

[Paul@Tag]

Not today emb531 (can I call you Phil?) as we have yet to shoot it yet and its the middle of the night here in Scotland!

We'll probably do the video tomorrow and it will be out on thursday/friday along with some screenshots. Should have another developer video for your entertainment tomorrow though!

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[emb531]

(can I call you Phil?)


Haha, you can call me whatever you'd like, but my real name is Eric :)

Sounds good about the videos, will be a nice weekend treat. The waiting after submission is going to be torture, I can see it now...:o

[rpb1975]

Haha, you can call me whatever you'd like, but my real name is Eric :)

Sounds good about the videos, will be a nice weekend treat. The waiting after submission is going to be torture, I can see it now...:o


Yep....+1!

[Hatteras]

I know this is about CJS, but any chances on Football Pro coming to the iPhone?

(For US, you'd have to change it to Soccer Pro, though)

Also, what will happen after you give the person $1 million?

Will you have any in-game buying when 3.0 comes out?

[Spitfire3775]

Haha, you can call me whatever you'd like, but my real name is Eric :)

Sounds good about the videos, will be a nice weekend treat. The waiting after submission is going to be torture, I can see it now...:o

You can have whatever you'd like.

[Paul@Tag]

Part 2 of the developer diary will be live later today... until then here's a couple of promo codes for Rock'n'Roll!

3KTARLY9A96J
3TM37YYYRTFH

Enjoy

[pennydreadful]

Paul- Thanks for the promo code for Rock'n''Roll. I used 3TM37YYYRTFH.

I'm eagerly anticipating the release of CJS :)

[teagan1000000]

WOOT
i never get promo codes thanks!
cant wait till carjackstreets
i used 3KTARLY9A96J

[The Game Reaper]

Erm... I'm really looking forward to this but how come we haven't seen any gameplay videos?

[Paul@Tag]

.... because there was (and still are) a few bugs/missing features that have a big effect on the visuals... but you'll be glad to know that most of them are history and we shot some footage tonight!

Should have a game-play taster along with screenshots and amusing commentary by end of the week. Stay tuned!

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[Hatteras]

Diary out yet? What time is it in Dundee (All the world clocks don't have it...)

Will there be a swat team after you tick off enough cops?

[Mattman]

[QUOTE=Paul@Tag;137009]So I'm wondering what people are thinking about GTA: Chinatown Wars? I haven't played it yet but by all accounts the reviews have been excellent bar a few issues with control and story.
QUOTE]

I picked up Chinatown Wars, and it is very good! I'm loving almost everthing about it, although it is a little hard to connect to the characters with the cutscenes they chose. apart from that, the world is huge, i love the graphics and controls and I'm very excited to see how CJS compares!:D

[Paul@Tag]

Not much to live up to then! I do hope that Car Jack isnt touted as a GTA Chinatown Wars for iPhone - they simply can't compare in scale, production values or polish... at least in this iteration so please judge fairly against other similar games ;-)

We do promise that you are unlikely to find another $5 (or less) game that comes close to matching the longevity of CJS tho. Our beta testers are reporting that the longer they play the more they are enjoying the game so that's great!

Anyway the next video diary is up and its basically me talking about the origins of the game...

Car Jack Streets Developer Diary 2: Origins (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EErXS0QNGrk)

Next diary installment will be early next week and will cover the art style and process.

Cheers and enjoy!
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[Hatteras]

What qualifies you to be a beta tester

:D

Will you be able to spray water with the fire truck?

[Mattman]

Will you be able to spray water with the fire truck?

Classic GTA haha, any more info on CJS, and paul it sounds like amazing value for the $ :D

[Paul@Tag]

Ha! Beta testers are a very select bunch of individuals, possibly the highest form of human evolution known in this universe ;-) Basically they were the folks that got lucky a few months ago when we posted looking for folk to join the team. If you are interested PM me and tell me why you'd be great as a Beta tester and if we like you you'll get added for future games/updates.

Another thing we are doing is putting together a Car Jack Streets - "Street Team". If you'd like to be involved in that please drop me a PM- we have a limited number of spaces but I'd like to give our loyal TA readers first shout at that.

The fire truck won't be squirting water in the first build I'm afraid although its on the list for one of the updates. To be honest its really just (very nice) window dressing - you will be able to jack the fire truck tho!

The beauty of this is that we'll be able to listen to players most desired update features and incorporate them. Still for the $$$ I'm sure you wont be disappointed in the launch build!

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[emb531]

Hey Paul, how is the in-game video coming along? Just finished most of my school work for the week...eager for some explosions and Car Jacking :)

[Paul@Tag]

Game-play video footage is shot and in the can. Just need to edit it down tomorrow... if you follow us on Twitter or the Car Jack Streets website you'll be the first to know when its live!

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[teagan1000000]

i just saw the trailer for the cell phone version, it looks good but the itouch version is gonna have better graphics and stuff right?

[greenhornet9]

i know it probably says it somewhere earlier in this thread, but i dont want to read all that :D. Anyways, how much will this cost?

[hirschy75]

I sent you a pm paul

Looks like a great game

[Crimsonpaw]

i know it probably says it somewhere earlier in this thread, but i dont want to read all that :D. Anyways, how much will this cost?
Nope, Paul hasn't said anything except for in his intervew with iPGN where he said it would be "less than 5 pounds", not sure what the US conversion rate is, but at this point it doesn't matter to me.

It's sad, I'm sitting on about $70 worth of Best Buy gift cards and my most anticipated release for my gaming habit is CJS.

[Paul@Tag]

The game will be $69.99 for Crimsonpaw and $5.99 for everyone else!

Only joking... we don't have a confirmed price point yet.

Will get back to the Street Team candidates later today - thanks for your PM's!

Oh and the game-play video should be up with the first screen shots later today.

Cheers
P

[Paul@Tag]

Ok so the game-play video might be monday now... having a few issues. I'm sure it will be worth the wait tho ;-)

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[Hatteras]

:P Oh well

[emb531]

Ok so the game-play video might be monday now... having a few issues. I'm sure it will be worth the wait tho ;-)

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How can there be that many issues to delay three days? I thought it was already filmed, all that needed done was editing...which could only take an hour or two at most. I want to see some gameplay...just post it with the bugs...

Screenshots at least!

[pennydreadful]

There could be any number of causes for the delay...for example, the developer Paul and his wife are expecting their first child. Earlier in this thread he mentioned that the arrival of the new addition to their family was expected any day now :)

[steviet]

How can there be that many issues to delay three days? I thought it was already filmed, all that needed done was editing...which could only take an hour or two at most. I want to see some gameplay...just post it with the bugs...

Screenshots at least!

do you edit then? do you know how long it takes to do a nice cut, mix music effects etc and export with a nice code? i work as an editor and its not an extremely quick thing to do.

also a factor in the delay is probably the fact that its the weekend.

dont know - just guessing

[Paul@Tag]

Well its just a simple movie for YouTube so not really any complex editing either of visuals or audio... problem lies in a movie loaded into Final Cut on a Mac and then transfered onto Premier on PC. Without boring everyone its a case of missing codecs.

It looks like we've found a way round but not sure we'll have anything today... I can tell you the screenshots are looking rather tasty though and the game will be submitted to Apple next week.

Have a good weekend folks.

[CandyNJ66]

There could be any number of causes for the delay...for example, the developer Paul and his wife are expecting their first child. Earlier in this thread he mentioned that the arrival of the new addition to their family was expected any day now :)

Awww bless! I hope when the baby does arrive, he/she will be very healthy :)

[Crimsonpaw]

... I can tell you the screenshots are looking rather tasty though and the game will be submitted to Apple next week.
Rock on Paul, that's great news. I just hope there's not the issues with the CJS launch like there was for Payback!

[BrushMyNoseOff]

Rock on Paul, that's great news. I just hope there's not the issues with the CJS launch like there was for Payback!

Wouldn't worry about that. What concerns me more is Apple's extended approval process. We'll see; maybe CJS will get a little bit o' luck!

Cheers

[Paul@Tag]

Well CrimsonPaw there are those that would say that Paybacks inital brief appearance on the Australian app store before the bug was found was a stroke of marketing genius! It certainly fuelled the hype machine into overdrive and contributed to strong sales.

I expect that Car Jack will have a relatively smooth launch in comparision!

BTW there are some snippets of in-game artwork and some more background on the game on our developer video diaries. You can find the first two on the Tag Games YouTube Channel (http://www.youtube.com/taggames). I'm sporting a beard that I have vowed wont be shaved off until we submit the game to Apple - hopefully not long because its starting to itch!

PS For those that responded to the Street Team opportunity can you email to bizdev@tag-games.com... it's been a long week and I got the email address wrong (twice!!). Doh!

[Hatteras]

I'm watching some videos of GTA Chinatown Wars, it looks really promising!

In some future updates, I think it would be really cool if in CJS, when you car is on fire, you can burn people and other cars, really cool!

A GPS would also be really cool where you tap where you want to go and then it could give you directions

[emb531]

Well its just a simple movie for YouTube so not really any complex editing either of visuals or audio... problem lies in a movie loaded into Final Cut on a Mac and then transfered onto Premier on PC. Without boring everyone its a case of missing codecs.

It looks like we've found a way round but not sure we'll have anything today... I can tell you the screenshots are looking rather tasty though and the game will be submitted to Apple next week.

Have a good weekend folks.

How come you have to transfer from the Mac to the PC? Seems like Final Cut would suffice for editing needs...codecs are such a PIA though :cool:

Any chance of screeshots for tonight or tomorrow? Submission next week sounds awesome too! :D

[RaZrVIN]

Wow, now THIS is going to be an immediate sale for me. I'm so excited and I congratulate Paul and those at Tag Games on the hard work and dedication :) Hahaha and the comment about the beard made my night lol. Can't wait to see CJS on my iPod Touch!

[No Hero]

Ha! Beta testers are a very select bunch of individuals, possibly the highest form of human evolution known in this universe ;-) Basically they were the folks that got lucky a few months ago when we posted looking for folk to join the team. If you are interested PM me and tell me why you'd be great as a Beta tester and if we like you you'll get added for future games/updates.

Another thing we are doing is putting together a Car Jack Streets - "Street Team". If you'd like to be involved in that please drop me a PM- we have a limited number of spaces but I'd like to give our loyal TA readers first shout at that.

The fire truck won't be squirting water in the first build I'm afraid although its on the list for one of the updates. To be honest its really just (very nice) window dressing - you will be able to jack the fire truck tho!

The beauty of this is that we'll be able to listen to players most desired update features and incorporate them. Still for the $$$ I'm sure you wont be disappointed in the launch build!

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Haha im one of the special ones :) I've been testing CJS and I give a resounding Yes!!! :D

What i particularly love in the fact the game is time based meaning it continues as you go in real life: some of the best missions occur only at certain times in the day. Also, per week dues of 45k must be payed or else... bad things happen (Yeah, i failed by 6k...) THe missions are pretty challenging, which is nice. Love the GTA feel to it.

[Hatteras]

Haha im one of the special ones :) I've been testing CJS and I give a resounding Yes!!! :D

What i particularly love in the fact the game is time based meaning it continues as you go in real life: some of the best missions occur only at certain times in the day. Also, per week dues of 45k must be payed or else... bad things happen (Yeah, i failed by 6k...) THe missions are pretty challenging, which is nice. Love the GTA feel to it.

I want to be you!!

11 more days (I hope!)

[Haephestos]

I was meant to be one of the testers, but there were problems getting the beta to me, and I didn't receive it before the beta period ended. :(
Ah well!

[nizy]

I just worked out that paying back $50,000 every week until you've cleared the $1m debt would take 20 weeks (about 5 months)! :D

I have a few of questions for Paul:
1. Does the $50k get deducted from your earnings at the end of each week?
2. When you've cleared the debt, is there a proper ending to the game's story like in the 3d GTA games? And can you continue playing after completing the story?
3. Do things like getting arrested or killed cost you cash like in GTA?
4. Can you bribe cops, buy businesses, set up protection rackets etc?
5. Is there a garage/safe house where you can store your fav wheels?
6. Any thoughts on what 3.0 might bring to Car Jack in the future i.e. car radio music from ipod (selectable within the game), real time mission reminders, online or local multiplayer, DLC add on packs (new cars, mission packs or maps)?

[No Hero]

Yea, getting busted costs you money, and dying costs you money for medical bills

[Paul@Tag]

First of all really sorry CJS Street Team candidates - got that email address wrong twice. Arrrghh.. please email bizdev@tag-games.com if you want to be a member of the Street Team. Will be selecting folk next week.

Ok Nizy here's some answers to your very good questions... and yes if you want to beat the game its going to take you 5 months (however its designed to be played 10-15 mins a day rather than for hours so do bear that in mind!)

1/ Yes. You have to pay that $50k everyweek otherwise Frankie will send the boys round and it will be game over. Any extra cash you have carries through to the next week.

2/ There is a twist in the story at the end - thats all I'll say! Yes you can continue playing to get the biggest cash score possible and see how you're doing against the rest of the world on the global rankings tables. Of course in 5 months time CJS 2 might be close to release ;-)

3/ Yes.

4/ Not this time round. If we had twice the budget and double the team then this would have been in as it is you'll have to wait for the sequel on that front!

5/ No garage at the moment (planned for update but due to the nature of the design its not as important as in GTA) but there are safehouses.

6/ Well we are going to add alot of stuff in regular updates but for the sequel we'd expect to use much of the new 3.0 functionality especially around connectivity. Right now we are 100% focused on submitted CJS next week and making sure we make enough money from the game this time round so that there will be an even better CJS on the App Store come Christmas time!

Cheers
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I just worked out that paying back $50,000 every week until you've cleared the $1m debt would take 20 weeks (about 5 months)! :D

I have a few of questions for Paul:
1. Does the $50k get deducted from your earnings at the end of each week?
2. When you've cleared the debt, is there a proper ending to the game's story like in the 3d GTA games? And can you continue playing after completing the story?
3. Do things like getting arrested or killed cost you cash like in GTA?
4. Can you bribe cops, buy businesses, set up protection rackets etc?
5. Is there a garage/safe house where you can store your fav wheels?
6. Any thoughts on what 3.0 might bring to Car Jack in the future i.e. car radio music from ipod (selectable within the game), real time mission reminders, online or local multiplayer, DLC add on packs (new cars, mission packs or maps)?

[Hatteras]

First of all really sorry CJS Street Team candidates - got that email address wrong twice. Arrrghh.. please email bizdev@tag-games.com if you want to be a member of the Street Team. Will be selecting folk next week.
Cheers.
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Looks like someones got a wee bit 'or insomnia.:cool:

Can you handle the birth of two babies?!

[The Game Reaper]

Hey Paul, you never know maybe they could be twins! :D

[Hatteras]

Hey Paul, you never know maybe they could be twins! :D

Twins=delayed CJS 2!!!!

Paul, PRAY...PRAY!!

[arono]

Hey Paul congrats on the baby!!
I've got a new question: will you be submitting CJS worldwide?

[Paul@Tag]

Thanks for all the kind words - the baby has yet to appear but I know for sure it won't be twins ;-)

So I thought I'd share the first screenshot from www.carjackstreets.com (http://www.carjackstreets.com) with you all just to whet your appetites! The rest of the screens will go up on monday along with the game-play movie (fingers crossed!)

So here's an evening scene from the suburbs with Kirk (owner of the city chop shop) making Randal a very kind offer...

http://www.imagechicken.com/uploads/1237666966093547200.png (http://www.imagechicken.com)

[arono]

WOW
that looks AMAZING
I´m hoping this won't take long so that I could have CJS on my ipotch very soon

[Palfince]

That screenshot looks amazing! I can't wait. Also what are the arrows for?

[Hatteras]

Great game and great graphics?

What more can you ask for?

[Paul@Tag]

That screenshot looks amazing! I can't wait. Also what are the arrows for?

You use your left thumb to touch between the left arrows to scroll the mission text. You touch the right arrow to skip to the next piece of mission text or back to the game.

Its all pretty intuative in game ;-)

[Haephestos]

Looks great!

[arono]

Again:
Paul, will CJS be submitted worldwide?

[Paul@Tag]

Submitted worldwide? Yes I think so although English only for release and multi-language for first update.

CHeers
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[Hatteras]

Did you get Chinatown Wars Paul?

I think the burning car idea is really cool where you can set people and cars on fire

[emb531]

Thanks for all the kind words - the baby has yet to appear but I know for sure it won't be twins ;-)

So I thought I'd share the first screenshot from www.carjackstreets.com (http://www.carjackstreets.com) with you all just to whet your appetites! The rest of the screens will go up on monday along with the game-play movie (fingers crossed!)

So here's an evening scene from the suburbs with Kirk (owner of the city chop shop) making Randal a very kind offer...

http://www.imagechicken.com/uploads/1237666966093547200.png (http://www.imagechicken.com)

Nice looking explosion and headlights :D Hopefully no more technical problems arise...can't wait to see the gameplay video...and submission next week will be awesome!

[Rocketman919]

Nice looking explosion and headlights :D Hopefully no more technical problems arise...can't wait to see the gameplay video...and submission next week will be awesome!

Umm what explosion? You mean that green thing? Thats a tree.

[Mattman]

Is it seperated into multiple islands or districts a la GTA or one big island? Also, how does the map compare to some of the other GTAs? Btw the screens are looking great!

[Hatteras]

Any ideas on new cars in future updates?

Also, the dispatching cop cars seems like a good idea, instead of hiding out (A la Chinatown Wars).

And do you have any screenshots/map of the city? Whenever I get a non-linear game, I always love exploring the city and causing havoc.

[Haephestos]

Does the map have countryside areas ala GTA: San Andreas, or is it all city? Also, are there any flying vehicles?

[darksoul]

Hey Paul, you should make a tank that has a built-in flamethrower like this...
http://www.greatdreams.com/war/sherman_flamethrower.jpg
imagine how much fun it would be:D

[No Hero]

Any ideas on new cars in future updates?

Also, the dispatching cop cars seems like a good idea, instead of hiding out (A la Chinatown Wars).

And do you have any screenshots/map of the city? Whenever I get a non-linear game, I always love exploring the city and causing havoc.

Thought China town wars changed the hiding out thing to being more aggressive, attacking them to get them off (as in ign review i read)

[Paul@Tag]

Ok... let me answer some of these questions!

1/ Buring cars - yes we have buring cars but as far as using them to burn other cars/people then I'm afraid we felt that was likely to be going too far as far as violence goes. We tried to keep the violence in the game cartoon and unrealistic - burning people causes a few issues especially in terms of the Apple review process. This couldnt be an 18 rated game.

2/ There isn't an explosion in that screenshot. The big green thing is a tree. It will make more sense visually when you see it moving. Trust me it looks big and 3D in game but doesn't translate fantasically to a static screenshot.

3/ The map is fairly large and has different areas (beaches, island, downtown, docks, suburbs, marina, race track etc) but these are all open at the start. You will be soon be finding your way around easily and when you play the game you will see that the structure of the game is such that having everything 'open' from the start makes sense. The game is far more of an arcade experience based around short bursts of frantic play than long narrative driven tasks... think R-Type meets GTA!

4/ Cops - The best way to deal with cops is to uh... "dispatch" them! You can go and hide if you want and wait for your wanted level to cool off but that takes a bit of time and is risky. Best to just confront the problem! As I said above the game is arcade in nature with lots of power-ups dotted all over the map. You'll soon learn where the disguise power-ups are that reduce your wanted level to zero!

5/ The game will have a helicopter but we might hold this back for an update. You'll see why later ;-)

6/ Love the tank with the flamethrower that looks like a great idea!

Cheers
P

[kieranvanpinxteren]

You just emailed me like 3 seconds AGO!!!!!!:cool: Anyways how big is the game file goin ta be because i hate to say it but i got a 1gig app limit going on for lent!hhahahahahahh


Ok... let me answer some of these questions!

1/ Buring cars - yes we have buring cars but as far as using them to burn other cars/people then I'm afraid we felt that was likely to be going too far as far as violence goes. We tried to keep the violence in the game cartoon and unrealistic - burning people causes a few issues especially in terms of the Apple review process. This couldnt be an 18 rated game.

2/ There isn't an explosion in that screenshot. The big green thing is a tree. It will make more sense visually when you see it moving. Trust me it looks big and 3D in game but doesn't translate fantasically to a static screenshot.

3/ The map is fairly large and has different areas (beaches, island, downtown, docks, suburbs, marina, race track etc) but these are all open at the start. You will be soon be finding your way around easily and when you play the game you will see that the structure of the game is such that having everything 'open' from the start makes sense. The game is far more of an arcade experience based around short bursts of frantic play than long narrative driven tasks... think R-Type meets GTA!

4/ Cops - The best way to deal with cops is to uh... "dispatch" them! You can go and hide if you want and wait for your wanted level to cool off but that takes a bit of time and is risky. Best to just confront the problem! As I said above the game is arcade in nature with lots of power-ups dotted all over the map. You'll soon learn where the disguise power-ups are that reduce your wanted level to zero!

5/ The game will have a helicopter but we might hold this back for an update. You'll see why later ;-)

6/ Love the tank with the flamethrower that looks like a great idea!

Cheers
P

[Hatteras]

Sorry for the multitide of questions, but:

Is there any dialog when you die/get busted by the cops like "Wasted!!!"?

Do other pedestians steeal cars and chaseyou for your money?

[The Game Reaper]

Do some pedestrians have guns?

Video will be out later today!

[Mattman]

Ok... let me answer some of these questions!

1/ Buring cars - yes we have buring cars but as far as using them to burn other cars/people then I'm afraid we felt that was likely to be going too far as far as violence goes. We tried to keep the violence in the game cartoon and unrealistic - burning people causes a few issues especially in terms of the Apple review process. This couldnt be an 18 rated game.

2/ There isn't an explosion in that screenshot. The big green thing is a tree. It will make more sense visually when you see it moving. Trust me it looks big and 3D in game but doesn't translate fantasically to a static screenshot.

3/ The map is fairly large and has different areas (beaches, island, downtown, docks, suburbs, marina, race track etc) but these are all open at the start. You will be soon be finding your way around easily and when you play the game you will see that the structure of the game is such that having everything 'open' from the start makes sense. The game is far more of an arcade experience based around short bursts of frantic play than long narrative driven tasks... think R-Type meets GTA!

4/ Cops - The best way to deal with cops is to uh... "dispatch" them! You can go and hide if you want and wait for your wanted level to cool off but that takes a bit of time and is risky. Best to just confront the problem! As I said above the game is arcade in nature with lots of power-ups dotted all over the map. You'll soon learn where the disguise power-ups are that reduce your wanted level to zero!

5/ The game will have a helicopter but we might hold this back for an update. You'll see why later ;-)

6/ Love the tank with the flamethrower that looks like a great idea!

Cheers
P

Sweet sounds awesome, thanks for putting up with all our questions and good luck!

[Hatteras]

Can't wait for the gameplay video.

[emb531]

Video will be out later today!

I thought it was scheduled for Monday?

[nizy]

Paul, thanks for answering my questions. And i've gotta say this game sounds awesome so far!

But i do have some concerns regarding the 50k/week comments you made:

1/ Yes. You have to pay that $50k everyweek otherwise Frankie will send the boys round and it will be game over. Any extra cash you have carries through to the next week.

1. How difficult will it be to earn the 50k each week? I mean is it possible to make the money from side missions alone? Or in a few hours playing standard story missions? You say that excess money will rollover, so feasibly could i earn a large safety net in 1 week of intensive play so as to survive even if i don't make the 50k in the next week?

2. You state that its game over if you don't make the 50k. Thats sound a bit lame. Would you get the chance to start the week over or do you have to start the whole game again? I mean I could imagine it being quite easily to miss a payment (i.e. forget to play) and ending up losing the game! That would really piss me off if i'd been playing for ages by then!!!!!!!

3. How does the save game system work with the real-time gameplay?

[RaZrVIN]

Paul, thanks for answering my questions. And i've gotta say this game sounds awesome so far!

But i do have some concerns regarding the 50k/week comments you made:



1. How difficult will it be to earn the 50k each week? I mean is it possible to make the money from side missions alone? Or in a few hours playing standard story missions? You say that excess money will rollover, so feasibly could i earn a large safety net in 1 week of intensive play so as to survive even if i don't make the 50k in the next week?

2. You state that its game over if you don't make the 50k. Thats sound a bit lame. Would you get the chance to start the week over or do you have to start the whole game again? I mean I could imagine it being quite easily to miss a payment (i.e. forget to play) and ending up losing the game! That would really piss me off if i'd been playing for ages by then!!!!!!!

3. How does the save game system work with the real-time gameplay?

It may sound lame, like starting over the entire game, but that's what makes the game so engaging! I'm sure in real-life the mob won't let it go so easily hehe :D

[hirschy75]

Ok I'm going to start off by saying that this game sounds SSSIIICCCKKKKKK and I can't wait to play this thing. So far about seven or eight people I know that I told about this are checking daily for it. This should be so awesome.

Thanks for clearing up the confusion Paul@Tag

I'm so excited for this game!!!!

[Hatteras]

I wish I had another phone so I could play this

Too bad I don't want any other phones...

[hirschy75]

For those of you that go to mac rumors you can go here to see another thread:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=673152

:)

[kieranvanpinxteren]

AGAIN HOW BIG IS THIS GAME GOING TO BE....LIKE 200megs or 500 megs?:)

[Paul@Tag]

More than 100mb, less than 300mb ;-)

[nickels]

More than 100mb, less than 300mb ;-)

Do you still want feedback on the beta? Sadly, this is the first time (thanks spring) where I got a beta and got side-tracked and forgot to fill out the form.

More then 100 megs, wow it has certainly grown since being in beta.

[emb531]

How's that gameplay video coming Paul? :D

[Paul@Tag]

The game has grown somewhat since we added music, more sfx and more 3d models to the game ;-)

The game-play video is processing right now. Its been a horror from start to finish. Should be on some sites tonight depending upon if they are all at GDC or not...

Will make sure you all get first notice too!
P

[emb531]

The game has grown somewhat since we added music, more sfx and more 3d models to the game ;-)

The game-play video is processing right now. Its been a horror from start to finish. Should be on some sites tonight depending upon if they are all at GDC or not...

Will make sure you all get first notice too!
P

What was so difficult about creating the video? Editing troubles or more of the filming itself? Be sure to tweet or post here once its uploaded!

[Paul@Tag]

The video problem was we decided to shoot in HD rather than use the crappy camera we used before. No idea what happened really but first the codecs were all wrong and then vista wouldn't see the camera at all!!!

I won't name the poor employee that's been working on this but they have a few more grey hairs than last friday - and for what is really something rather unspectactular (well except for the subject matter!!!!)

Cheers
P

[The Game Reaper]

Can't wait to see the gameplay video! What does it preview, i.e. missions, driving, pizza dileveries etc?

[emb531]

The new screenshots are up(which look awesome! :D), and there is a link to the gameplay video but it does not work yet, so it must be coming soon as well.

http://www.tag-games.com/holdingpages/carjackstreets/images/previews/CJS_Screen2.jpg
http://www.tag-games.com/holdingpages/carjackstreets/images/previews/CJS_Screen3.jpg
http://www.tag-games.com/holdingpages/carjackstreets/images/previews/CJS_Screen4.jpg
http://www.tag-games.com/holdingpages/carjackstreets/images/previews/CJS_Screen5.jpg
http://www.tag-games.com/holdingpages/carjackstreets/images/previews/CJS_Screen6.jpg
http://www.tag-games.com/holdingpages/carjackstreets/images/previews/CJS_Screen7.jpg
http://www.tag-games.com/holdingpages/carjackstreets/images/previews/CJS_Screen8.jpg

www.carjackstreets.com (then go to the Media tab)

[The Game Reaper]

Holy cow!

They look awesome!

[hirschy75]

Wow that looks awesome. I can't wait!!!!!!!!!

[kieranvanpinxteren]

I FINALLY SEE SOME BLOOD IN THE GAME! Anyways paul are there diffrent control options or is it like paybacks? Also I wish yours is like or better then paybacks because theres i hate to say it are amazing:o

[arono]

Wow those screenshots look awesome
The mobile version game trailer looks great so the iPhone/ipotch version should be like 10 times better
I need to play Car Jack Stretts!!!!!

[Varkman]

I can see from the screens that the camera zooms out the faster you drive the car: Thank god! I did find Payback quite hard to play despite it's technical mastery in terms of graphics. The fast cars combined with the occaisional choppy frame rate could be quite unwieldy at times. Hopefully this will be better implemented :D

[hirschy75]

I FINALLY SEE SOME BLOOD IN THE GAME! Anyways paul are there diffrent control options or is it like paybacks? Also I wish yours is like or better then paybacks because theres i hate to say it are amazing:o

it looks like it is controlled by touch rather than moving the iPod around

and it looks much better visually than paybacks but i guess im biased because i hated paybacks, the choppiness was just to much

[TMAC34]

ahhhhhh i can't wait for this to come out so i can decide between this and payback (im definitely getting one of them) :D

[The Game Reaper]

Gameplay video still not here yet right?

[hirschy75]

Gameplay video still not here yet right?

Nope

And i will for sure be getting this over paybacks,

Just going on looks alone look at the difference visually.
The video will probably help when it goes live to see how its going to actually be but the pictures look fantastic.

[Paul@Tag]

Wow you guys dont miss a thing do ya?!!!?

Ok there will be more screens sent to the various websites tomorrow along with the damn video. I just told them to shoot it again as after all that pain it wasn't very good. Still at least you've got some screens to enjoy... and glad you like tha art style!

P

[emb531]

Wow you guys dont miss a thing do ya?!!!?

Ok there will be more screens sent to the various websites tomorrow along with the damn video. I just told them to shoot it again as after all that pain it wasn't very good. Still at least you've got some screens to enjoy... and glad you like tha art style!

P

I just so happened to check the website and there the screens were :D

Haha, this video will be the death of your team it sounds like :p So tomorrow for sure then? Can't wait....:)

[Mattman]

Looks amazing and the art style, while not as technically "3d console style" as payback, seem much more appealing and well done to me! It looks like you all put in a lot of work and I hope it pays off!

[Hatteras]

Paul, you're killing me!!! I need this game, these screenshots look sooooooo amazing!!!!! When are you submitting this??

When this comes out, now I wait for Astro Ranch (possible beta tester????:D). Just kidding, but if given the oppurtunity, I'd jump on that like a tiger!!!

[Palfince]

I love the graphic style of this game. Not too sure about the having to get 50K a week but it'll still be a first day purchase for me!

I can't wait! :D

[spamboy]

VERY COLORFUL! Almost over-the-top, but not quite. Still awesome though!

[CandyNJ66]

This game is not even submitted yet?

[arta]

Pleeaase don't have Payback controls. :(

[Hatteras]

How are you going to use the acceleromator? In Payback it's a little sensitive

[emb531]

How are you going to use the acceleromator? In Payback it's a little sensitive

Almost positive there is no accelerometer usage in the game, all movement is accomplished with on-screen controls.

This game will blow Payback away, guaranteed...

[Hatteras]

Are you a beta-tester?

There is no doubt in my mind that CJS will blow Payback out of the water (No offence to anyone)

[Hatteras]

I will become mentally unstable/insane if this game doesn't come out within the bracket of 10 days...

How many cars will be on the road? In GTAII, I love getting a ton of cars in a clump, then blowing them all up!!!

[arta]

Vids until the real trailer comes out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RO-la-hDSY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_ec13V133s

[spamboy]

CAN'T WAIT! WE should ask those guys to PLEASE release it early if they get the chance.

Paul, how 'bout it?

[Crimsonpaw]

Pleeaase don't have Payback controls. :(
You can see in some of the screens that it uses an Up/Down system on the right and a Left/Right system on the left.
Almost positive there is no accelerometer usage in the game, all movement is accomplished with on-screen controls.
Paul has stated that there will be multiple control schemes to choose from. Paul looks to be treating this game very seriously and is taking the community's input on decisions he's making.

Listen all, the guy's busting his ass to get this out to us while at the same time needing to cater to his pregnant wife who is due any day; I think we need to cut him some slack if he misses a few days on the video or even the release.

Keep up the good work Paul and team, this is looking great!

[spamboy]

Yes, good point. I keep forgetting he's pregnant. :p

[Varkman]

I say ignore the wife and baby. The kid will thank you when he/she is playing CJS ;)

[jawslover]

Yes, good point. I keep forgetting he's pregnant. :p

:eek:

[Gamingfun]

The game looks to be a fun one and should be a great way to lose some time :)

[Paul@Tag]

Hope its worth the wait.... :D


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Car Jack Streets - Game-play Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QCN7ueKLH4)

[emb531]

You can see in some of the screens that it uses an Up/Down system on the right and a Left/Right system on the left.

Paul has stated that there will be multiple control schemes to choose from. Paul looks to be treating this game very seriously and is taking the community's input on decisions he's making.



Where has he ever said there will be multiple control schemes? That would take so much extra work, and also be very difficult to implement, unless the player has an option to configure the on-screen controls, but this would just be an alteration of the original. Watch the gameplay video...no accelerometer, and listen to the podcast, Paul says it was way too sensitive for controlling the cars...

Hope its worth the wait.... :D


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Car Jack Streets - Game-play Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QCN7ueKLH4)

Awesome! Submission still looking good for this week?

[The Game Reaper]

Hope its worth the wait.... :D


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Car Jack Streets - Game-play Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QCN7ueKLH4)
Great!

[Crimsonpaw]

Where has he ever said there will be multiple control schemes? That would take so much extra work, and also be very difficult to implement, unless the player has an option to configure the on-screen controls, but this would just be an alteration of the original.
Unless something has changed, I have a PM saying that they're implementing three different control schemes and multiple camera angles. We'll see when it comes out though.

[BadSanta]

No pedestrian?

[FilthyCanadian]

Any word on when this will be submitted?

[darkhorse]

No pedestrian?

Look harder, there are some.

[Gamingfun]

This game looks great in motion :cool: Thanks for the video!

[darksoul]

awesome video! i can't wait for this game to come out. will there be a lite version as well?

[CandyNJ66]

looks like payback and has a camera angle that isfurther away but I hope the camera angles will be closer.

Right now, it looks disappointing and not much better than Payback but I don't know much about the game.

I hope it's a lot more solid and the camera angles are closer.

[hirschy75]

looks like payback and has a camera angle that isfurther away but I hope the camera angles will be closer.

Right now, it looks disappointing and not much better than Payback but I don't know much about the game.

I hope it's a lot more solid and the camera angles are closer.

Ugh candy how can you say that? Hahaa.

To me it looks much better :)

[FilthyCanadian]

I agree with her, It doesn't look great at all. I was hoping this was going to be a great game.

[wonderva]

Right now the game looks worse than Payback.

Hopefully it will still be a good game but right now it looks like an average game with possibly a control problem.

Maybe they should adapt to the camera angle of payback's

[Gamingfun]

I think the art style of Car Jack Streets is better than Payback but naturally that's just my opinion. Seems like the driving handles better as well but that's just from watching not playing...

[The Game Reaper]

Why the hate?
The graphics are supposed to be retro!
Plus, gameplay is more important than graphics.

[CandyNJ66]

Ugh candy how can you say that? Hahaa.

To me it looks much better :)

lol sorry! well, just a quick first opinion!

Someone said gameplay is the important thing and That's true. I do like nice graphics but gameplay is king.There does appear to be much more of a story and from what the description says it's supposed to be fun.

We shall see. :)

[darksoul]

Why the hate?
The graphics are supposed to be retro!
Plus, gameplay is more important than graphics.

well said. i don't care about the graphics as long as i enjoy playing this game

[wonderva]

Why the hate?
The graphics are supposed to be retro!
Plus, gameplay is more important than graphics.

Yeah, I don't think [from the videos] that CarJack will have a gameplay as fun as Payback.
But we will have to see

[CBraun53]

lol sorry! well, just a quick first opinion!

Someone said gameplay is the important thing and That's true. I do like nice graphics but gameplay is king.There does appear to be much more of a story and from what the description says it's supposed to be fun.

We shall see. :)

I agree. I am pretty excited for the game but the trailer didn't blow me away. I am not a huge fan of Payback because there is very little story and very little character to the protagonist. It looks like CJS will be better in both areas. The fact that there are cut scenes is already a huge improvement over Payback. I will still most likely buy this when it comes out, but I hope I am not disappointed like I was with Payback.

[Crimsonpaw]

Yeah, I don't think [from the videos] that CarJack will have a gameplay as fun as Payback.
But we will have to see
I would disagree there. I played all the way through Payback and it seemed just "meh" to me because the missions didn't seem varied in any way. This at least has different things to do other than going to a payphone to get the next mission. Plus Payback was broken into the multiple cities which didn't seem to work well, for me anyway.

I think CJS will offer more of the "GTA" type gameplay that I'm personally looking for.

[emb531]

Wow, I'm surprised at the disappointment by some, especially Candy as you like just about every game :p, I just don't see how anyone can say Payback looks better than CJS....I mean Payback's graphics look like something from the late 90's...while CJS is deliberately being retro and "comic book" inspired, much more emphasis on overall presentation. Payback, in my opinion, is just horrible...there is no connection with the main character or anything that happens in the game.

Any word on submission date Paul?

[Paul@Tag]

Well glad that we finally got that movie up at last - and still no sign of baby #2 but I get the feeling it will be here soon. Just want to mention a few things:

Control - CJS is more like the original GTA in terms of control and camera. We tried motion sensing for steering but it didn't work. There will be two touch controls - analogue and digital both using the virtual d-pad.

Camera - the camera is fixed from above but does zoom. I'm sure you recall our decision process a couple of months back when we looked at a Payback style camera and 3D cars. Given our current battle with framerate I think we made the right choice. Don't get me wrong the iPhone is a capable device but it is still a mobile phone and doesn't have some of the 3D capability of even a DS. Reality is that you aren't going to get a 30fps 3d person GTA on this generation of iPhone...(unless Carmack proves me wrong!) I have severe doubts you'd get a Chinatown Wars style engine running at more than 10-12 fps on iPhone. Payback really struggled with framerate and it does affect game-play big time.

Visuals - this is very subjective for sure and I hope that more people like the style we have gone for than don't!

Expectations - We aren't calling this the best game in the world. We know that it has it failings and the teams only desire is that the game is judged on merit once players have spent some time with it... so much of the game opens up over a period of days so I hope players don't hate on it after playing for five minutes! Although we appreciate the hype we have seen a large number of iPhone games built up unrealistically and then fail to deliever. I dont think this is often the fault of the developer... remember people these are games that sell for around half the price of a Java or Brew mobile phone game and around the price of a pint of beer!

We'll have another developer diary on our YouTube channel in a couple of days looking at the art style and development so you'll get to see alot more then...

Cheers

[Gamingfun]

so much of the game opens up over a period of days so I hope players don't hate on it after playing for five minutes! Although we appreciate the hype we have seen a large number of iPhone games built up unrealistically and then fail to deliever. I dont think this is often the fault of the developer... remember people these are games that sell for around half the price of a Java or Brew mobile phone game and around the price of a pint of beer!


I'll nab this and a pint of beer :p

Thanks for the update and yes visuals are a very subjective thing but I like the style you went for here

[Varkman]

From what I've seen I prefer the visual style to Payback, it's a personal taste issue really but the CJS look really do remind me of the GTA that got released on the GBA many years back which, although poor due to the systems limitations, was a valiant attempt.

[No Hero]

Don't worry guys, this game is more fun than payback (I loved payback... seriously)

[FilthyCanadian]

Argh, when is it being submitted paul?

[Crypton]

What I've seen on the gameplay video realy reminded me on GTA, which I loved to play... Looking forward to CJS!
BTW: I love the visuals.

I didn't like Payback. Only played the lite and am glad I didn't buy it.

[Phi6]

Well glad that we finally got that movie up at last - and still no sign of baby #2 but I get the feeling it will be here soon. Just want to mention a few things:

Control - CJS is more like the original GTA in terms of control and camera. We tried motion sensing for steering but it didn't work. There will be two touch controls - analogue and digital both using the virtual d-pad.

Camera - the camera is fixed from above but does zoom. I'm sure you recall our decision process a couple of months back when we looked at a Payback style camera and 3D cars. Given our current battle with framerate I think we made the right choice. Don't get me wrong the iPhone is a capable device but it is still a mobile phone and doesn't have some of the 3D capability of even a DS. Reality is that you aren't going to get a 30fps 3d person GTA on this generation of iPhone...(unless Carmack proves me wrong!) I have severe doubts you'd get a Chinatown Wars style engine running at more than 10-12 fps on iPhone. Payback really struggled with framerate and it does affect game-play big time.

Visuals - this is very subjective for sure and I hope that more people like the style we have gone for than don't!

Expectations - We aren't calling this the best game in the world. We know that it has it failings and the teams only desire is that the game is judged on merit once players have spent some time with it... so much of the game opens up over a period of days so I hope players don't hate on it after playing for five minutes! Although we appreciate the hype we have seen a large number of iPhone games built up unrealistically and then fail to deliever. I dont think this is often the fault of the developer... remember people these are games that sell for around half the price of a Java or Brew mobile phone game and around the price of a pint of beer!

We'll have another developer diary on our YouTube channel in a couple of days looking at the art style and development so you'll get to see alot more then...

Cheers

That is complete bull.

The iPhone can clearly handle a real 3D environment, as somebody said Quake 3 can already run fullspeed (I have it), there is Hero of Sparta, Ex Zeus, Cube, BIA to name a few.

It's all about optimization techniques and porting, clearly games like Katamari was not optimized properly when it first came out because of the nature of direct ports. We already know games made from scratch with the iPhone in mind can have fast, detailed 3D graphics.

The reason why Payback suffers from framerate problems is problems with direct porting from the GP2X engine, which used software rendering. Payback for the iPhone does not seem to take advantage of the openGL ES frameworks on the iPhone at all.

We already know the iPhone has greater graphical capability than DS as well, so that statement is very misinformed.

All that being said, I am looking forward to CJS, as the game's graphical style seems modern and fresh, sprites look clean and gameplay seems fast. Payback, while being a great technological achievement on the GBA and GP2X, seems dated now.

I just wish the developer for CJS justifies the graphics based on style merits, rather than just blaming the lack of a full 3D GTA style game on the iPhone's capabilities. Not all users on TouchArcade are that shallow, we can appreciate a game's art-style if it is good, and CJS seems to have it.

[wonderva]

Don't worry guys, this game is more fun than payback (I loved payback... seriously)

have you played the iphone version?

[rpb1975]

have you played the iphone version?

I have played payback, and I really like it with the improved camera angle. To each his own. I am REALLY looking forward to CJS though.

By the way, the iPod 2 Gen is more powerful than most people realize....when the next iPhone and iPod come out...they will have even a little more boost. However, games need to be built from the ground up to run well in a 3D environment. You can't just use a hacked together version from another platform and expect it to run the same.

Think about it this way...many games that are made for the PC but are originally Playstation or X-Box games don't run well. Is it because my bleeding edge computer doesn't have the power???? No! It is because the programming is not optimized for a PC, so it has to work harder to get less impressive results than on the original platform.

Just the facts. :cool:

[hirschy75]

Any interesting progress today Paul?

[emb531]

Yea, has this been submitted yet? Is the game still on track for submission this week at least?

[spamboy]

Yea, has this been submitted yet? Is the game still on track for submission this week at least?
YES PLEASE PAUL ANSWER!!!

If this game is late I will cut off a toe every day until it comes out.

[hirschy75]

YES PLEASE PAUL ANSWER!!!

If this game is late I will cut off a toe every day until it comes out.

Chill spammer lol

Hopefully Paul is working on this instead of messing around here with us :)

Good Luck

[RaZrVIN]

Haha don't worry guys I'm just as excited as everyone, but let's give Paul some breathing space :D Hopefully only 6 more days to go! (US)

[FilthyCanadian]

Haha don't worry guys I'm just as excited as everyone, but let's give Paul some breathing space :D Hopefully only 6 more days to go! (US)

What do you mean? was there ever an announced release date?

[CandyNJ66]

Haha don't worry guys I'm just as excited as everyone, but let's give Paul some breathing space :D Hopefully only 6 more days to go! (US)

Your signature is scary lol

[Mattman]

What do you mean? was there ever an announced release date?

Not an exact date per se, but he mentioned that it was most likely going to be submitted this week or next

[spamboy]

Not an exact date per se, but he mentioned that it was most likely going to be submitted this week or next
WHAT? Don't I remember March 31, 2009?

[emb531]

WHAT? Don't I remember March 31, 2009?

That was the expected release date...won't be making it by then unless it is submitted very soon...

[RaZrVIN]

Yeah sorry for the confusion, Paul said it most likely would available by the end of this month. So let's hope and pray that it has been submitted already! And your comment made me lmao Candy, haha I'm just tryin to make people smile with my corny signature because that's exactly what we need in the world right now :)

[Hatteras]

Are there any other sandbox style games I can munch on (besides payback) for the iPhone until CJS comes out?

I really want Chinatown Wars....

[steviet]

hey paul

any news on the street team?

[Paul@Tag]

Hello!

We've been very busy of late and the good news is that if you applied for the Street Team and have been selected you should now have an email from us confirming your status.

Things are coming along well and submission is now only days away. Looks like we will miss the 31st unfortunately unless there is some miracle in the review process!

Apologies for the previous post about technical capabilities I am not technical in anyway shape or form, however based on what I do understand I still feel we will not see a full GTA third person 3D game on this generation of iPhone. It's not just about 3D performance but the level of processing needed for the AI and everything else as well. I guess we will see ;-)

Interesting to see that the CJS movie trailer is the #66 most watched YouTube video in the UK today and even higher in Russia!!!

P

[emb531]

Hello!

We've been very busy of late and the good news is that if you applied for the Street Team and have been selected you should now have an email from us confirming your status.

Things are coming along well and submission is now only days away. Looks like we will miss the 31st unfortunately unless there is some miracle in the review process!

Apologies for the previous post about technical capabilities I am not technical in anyway shape or form, however based on what I do understand I still feel we will not see a full GTA third person 3D game on this generation of iPhone. It's not just about 3D performance but the level of processing needed for the AI and everything else as well. I guess we will see ;-)

Interesting to see that the CJS movie trailer is the #66 most watched YouTube video in the UK today and even higher in Russia!!!

P

What is left to be done before submission? I hate postponement of submissions/releases....:p

[hirschy75]

Hello!

We've been very busy of late and the good news is that if you applied for the Street Team and have been selected you should now have an email from us confirming your status.

Things are coming along well and submission is now only days away. Looks like we will miss the 31st unfortunately unless there is some miracle in the review process!

Apologies for the previous post about technical capabilities I am not technical in anyway shape or form, however based on what I do understand I still feel we will not see a full GTA third person 3D game on this generation of iPhone. It's not just about 3D performance but the level of processing needed for the AI and everything else as well. I guess we will see ;-)

Interesting to see that the CJS movie trailer is the #66 most watched YouTube video in the UK today and even higher in Russia!!!

P

That's ok an amazing late game is better than a bad game that comes too early.

Good luck with the review process and nice job on the vid

[Varkman]

I hear a sequel is being planned that will feature a "Chinatown Wars level of production value and detail"...

[spamboy]

I can't wait... especially since I'm now a Street Team member! :)

[arta]

I want to find out more about the gameplay out of the vehicles. Weapons, how do enemies track you and how can you escape them, activities, etc.

[Hatteras]

It's official, I'm on the Street Team!!!

[Spitfire3775]

what does the Street team do?

[Varkman]

This sounds cool, heres an exerpt from the interview...

Car Jack Streets was previously a Java game for regular mobile phones. There have been a few games by major publishers that have turned out to be “lazy ports”. What improvements can gamers expect in the iPhone version?

The great aspect of building from the Java version initially is that we are starting with a game that is already a successful award winner on an existing mobile platform, albeit one with significant technical limitations! The iPhone version of Car Jack Streets is certainly far more than a port! Visually the whole game has undergone a makeover with the addition of 3D buildings and objects, weapons effects, day and night lighting, headlights and brake lights and much more. Another huge improvement has been made with the audio. We have over 80 minutes of really superb music across a wide variety of genres plus a wide range of sound effects that help to build a sense that the city is real and living. There’s also a number of new vehicles and weapons, psycho bonuses where you just have to go crazy for 30 seconds , achievements (or Felonies in this case), global earnings tables to see how you stack up against other players and much more!

[hirschy75]

^^Nice

[steviet]

spamboy and hatteras - you're not supposed to reveal that youreon the street team

[spamboy]

spamboy and hatteras - you're not supposed to reveal that youreon the street team
Heehee yes we can. We can't tell you how good the game is looking at this point, or when it's due out. Fingers crossed, everybody.

[Hatteras]

spamboy and hatteras - you're not supposed to reveal that youreon the street team

yes we can...

[spamboy]

Hot off the presses (erm I mean the Tag Team):

The new Developer's Diary! All about the art style which has proved mildly controversial on these forums!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irc4rzFv8nc

[steviet]

Heehee yes we can. We can't tell you how good the game is looking at this point, or when it's due out. Fingers crossed, everybody.

I'm on it aswell, just thought we couldn't disclose that we were

[hirschy75]

K back on subject guys, good for all who made it

Anyone have comments about the controls? It seems like it will be easier than paybacks to control as well as being easier on the eyes which I am grateful for

And by the way the 3rd part of the developers diary is up, sorry I can't post the link. On the itouch lol

[kieranvanpinxteren]

There is a new dev diary on youtube! It is about the art of the game!!!:)

[kieranvanpinxteren]

Yeah we are aloud to say we are on it but we cant tell the new news!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)ahhahahahha s@ckers

[emb531]

What does the Street team even do anyway? Paul, you have been pretty uncommunicative lately...what's the deal? Let us all know where we stand in terms of submission etc...

[hirschy75]

What does the Street team even do anyway? Paul, you have been pretty uncommunicative lately...what's the deal? Let us all know where we stand in terms of submission etc...

Hopefully its because he's working on it

[greenhornet9]

im pretty sure it said it somehwere earlier in the thread but i dont want to read it all :D...so is there a specified release date yet?

[hirschy75]

im pretty sure it said it somehwere earlier in the thread but i dont want to read it all :D...so is there a specified release date yet?

It's supposed to be out by the end of March I believe but probably depends on Apple mostly

[wonderva]

Yeah we are aloud to say we are on it but we cant tell the new news!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)ahhahahahha s@ckers

nice to see Paul picked out humble members to be part of the Street Team

[hirschy75]

Sorry I just got home and got my laptop

Here's the link for the new vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irc4rzFv8nc

It's actually kinda cool how they do the transition

[Myrobotwillneverdie]

im pretty sure it said it somehwere earlier in the thread but i dont want to read it all :D...so is there a specified release date yet?

Like 15 posts ago ( yesterday) he said it's still a few days away from submission. So I guess we won't see it til like the second or so week of April.

[jawslover]

I'm on the CJS street team as well:p
The new video is really interesting, it must be really hard how they make the 2-d models 3-d, Kudos to the devs!

[Hatteras]

Paul is probably tied up with the birth of his baby (I don't know when his wife is due)

God, I want this game...

[Haephestos]

Hot off the presses (erm I mean the Tag Team):

The new Developer's Diary! All about the art style which has proved mildly controversial on these forums!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irc4rzFv8nc
Beat me to it!

[kohjingyu]

Sorry I just got home and got my laptop

Here's the link for the new vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irc4rzFv8nc

It's actually kinda cool how they do the transition

How was the game done using windows? Or is it just the art?

[JDH22]

Oh my goodness. I can't wait any longer for this game. Please come out already! ahhhh..

[istopmotion]

Oh my goodness. I can't wait any longer for this game. Please come out already! ahhhh..

I know what you mean. The only three games I've *waited* for so far were Rolando and NFS (not really excited for NFS anymore though). Since I first heard about CJS on TA - I think it was late last year - I was excited for it, but since February I've just been dying for it!! I check AppSniper probably around 10-12 times a day just to see if it's been released.

TagGames said it was submitted two weeks ago, so I don't know why it's taking Apple so long to approve :\

I want this game! :(

[arta]

Oh my goodness. I can't wait any longer for this game. Please come out already! ahhhh..
It comes out November.

[emb531]

TagGames said it was submitted two weeks ago, so I don't know why it's taking Apple so long to approve :\


It definitely has not been submitted yet...this thread would be much more active if it was, and just a few posts ago Paul said himself they were expecting a more early April release...

[hirschy75]

It comes out November.

Uhhh false

[hirschy75]

It definitely has not been submitted yet...this thread would be much more active if it was, and just a few posts ago Paul said himself they were expecting a more early April release...

I think Paul said something about possibly end of March so I'm still hoping for that :)

[Hatteras]

It comes out November.

Where did you get that...

lol

[jawslover]

I think it's more likely that it'll come out in early April, but come on, that's not a long time, and this game is certainly worth waiting for! And to the guy saying it's coming out in November...-_-

[Rocketman919]

Where did you get that...

lol

Its not just that guy, there was some other dude who said that too. It's because they watched the trailer for the mobile version which said "Coming in November 2008." If he could actually read things all the way through instead of part of it, then he would see that he was pretty stupid.

[emb531]

Hey Paul....what's new? Any more info? Everyone is dying for this game...

[hirschy75]

Its not just that guy, there was some other dude who said that too. It's because they watched the trailer for the mobile version which said "Coming in November 2008." If he could actually read things all the way through instead of part of it, then he would see that he was pretty stupid.

hahaahaha

[FilthyCanadian]

Does anyone know what the pricing of this will be like?

[Paul@Tag]

Hey folks - hang in there we are getting there with CJS... in the final straight towards the finishing line!

Hopefully will be live very soon - in the meantime looks like the Street Teams bitching will keep everyone entertained ;-)

Live date and pricing will be revealed very soon.

Thanks

[FilthyCanadian]

Hey folks - hang in there we are getting there with CJS... in the final straight towards the finishing line!

Hopefully will be live very soon - in the meantime looks like the Street Teams bitching will keep everyone entertained ;-)

Live date and pricing will be revealed very soon.

Thanks

Arrggh, how soon will this be announced?! Can't wait.

[Spotlight]

Arrggh, how soon will this be announced?! Can't wait.

It's just a game...get a life.

[hirschy75]

It's just a game...get a life.

Dude chill.

I'm pumped too and my life is awesome :)

[FilthyCanadian]

It's just a game...get a life.

Did I not just see you on the forum for some conga game saying how great it was?

Just because I disagreed with you, doesn't mean you need to come and insult me on every post I make.

[Vester]

Did I not just see you on the forum for some conga game saying how great it was?

Just because I disagreed with you, doesn't mean you need to come and insult me on every post I make.
damn, verbaly killed (car jacks streets looks soooooo good, i will definatly pick it up, look better than payback) >:l

[CloudStryder]

Hello, first time poster long time listener :P

i wanted to officaly join TouchArcade as i have had my itouch for a couple months now and this site has to be the number one iv found for all the info i want. and how great is it that the devs of such awesome games as CJS are actualy responding to igamers thoughts.

Id like to say a big thanks to the devs of CJS cause this looks freaken awesome.
this and Galaxy on fire is definatly making me a very happy igamery-pod-guy

thanks and you have a new "I cant wait!" fan ^^

[Haephestos]

Welcome!
For those of you that skip to the last page of the thread, don't forget to check out the dev diaries at: www.youtube.com/user/TagGames

[jecebn]

Hopefully only 1 day to go!

[emb531]

Ugh...I'm hoping that the lack of communication lately from Paul is a good thing...it should be submitted already...I hope..

[hirschy75]

Or his kid came
Or they're are working on it

Either of the three are good choices

[Hatteras]

I can't cope with the time zone change, don't know what time it is in Dundee right now...Paul, we have questions :-)

[Zincous]

I can't cope with the time zone change, don't know what time it is in Dundee right now...Paul, we have questions :-)

It's a good thing the iphone and ipod touch come standard with a "clock" app :rolleyes:

Just set the "world clock" up, and it easily tells you what time it is anywhere.

[CloudStryder]

my Itouch told me when our daylight savings was up 2 days ago and i wondered what was happening ^^

good ol' itouch, saving me from getting a nasty phone call from work ^^

[jawslover]

my Itouch told me when our daylight savings was up 2 days ago and i wondered what was happening ^^

good ol' itouch, saving me from getting a nasty phone call from work ^^

lol, and guys, give the guy some slack, he could have had his baby, or could just be making this game better!

[Paul@Tag]

Quick update:

2 hours sleep in three nights due to the arrival of daughter :eek:
All doing well so very happy.

Car Jack Streets v1 being uploaded to App Store in the next few hours.

Launch date and pricing information to come once Apple have (fingers crossed) quickly reviewed and passed the game for sale.

Thanks - now back to changing nappies (dipers) and being sick on :)

[CloudStryder]

congradulations on the new child and wishing your family all the best.
dont let other people make you feel like you have to rush anything.
family comes first and you should be very happy, if not amazingly tired ^^

congrats again,
keep well.

looking forward to updates.

[jecebn]

thanks for the update Paul - Congrats on your new baby!

[RaZrVIN]

Congratulations on the baby Paul! It makes me smile knowing that you are happy now, because you deserve it. And you were able to upload CJS?! Impressive! I don't know how you do it.. But don't worry Paul, your hard work will soon pay off! $$$$ :D

[emb531]

Quick update:

2 hours sleep in three nights due to the arrival of daughter :eek:
All doing well so very happy.

Car Jack Streets v1 being uploaded to App Store in the next few hours.

Launch date and pricing information to come once Apple have (fingers crossed) quickly reviewed and passed the game for sale.

Thanks - now back to changing nappies (dipers) and being sick on :)

Congrats on the baby :)

So you are planning to specify a release date once it has been approved? As in prolong the release even further after approval? That is kind of lame...just let it release once it has been accepted...

[Crimsonpaw]

Quick update:

2 hours sleep in three nights due to the arrival of daughter :eek:
All doing well so very happy.
Congrats my man, it's amazing the hardships we will endure for our children. When my 2nd was born, there were countless nights of 2 hour "naps" but we got through it.

Glad to hear the release is coming soon though, you guys deserve a break (and my $$$).

[FilthyCanadian]

Excellent news about it being submitted.

[Mattman]

Hah I NEED this by Sunday for a long Spring Break Beach Vacation drive! :D

[hirschy75]

Hah I NEED this by Sunday for a long Spring Break Beach Vacation drive! :D

That's probably pushing it...

Anyways good luck with the daughter Paul, think of a name yet?

And of course nice job with the game getting submitted before the end of March

[Paul@Tag]

Just to clarify - we cant just release whenever it clears because we have to co-ordinate marketing material and hopefully some promotion from Apple on the App Store.

We are as keen to get this out as you are to play it so please bear with us - it wont be long!

[FilthyCanadian]

Just to clarify - we cant just release whenever it clears because we have to co-ordinate marketing material and hopefully some promotion from Apple on the App Store.

We are as keen to get this out as you are to play it so please bear with us - it wont be long!

Any news on the price, paul?

[pennydreadful]

Quick update:

2 hours sleep in three nights due to the arrival of daughter

Paul- Congrats on new baby daughter and best wishes for the launch of CJS (a game I'm really looking forward to.)

[robertf224]

Really excited for this game hope it gets up on the store soon =]