LiveFire..Upcoming first person shooter from ng:moco!!

[ibelongintheforums]

LiveFire is a new multi-player first person shooter from ng:moco. More details to come soon.

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Screenshots: http://forums.toucharcade.com/album.php?albumid=70

[Man of Mystery]

You control the FPS by touching anywhere on the left side of the screen, then shoot with your right thumb.

sounds (exactly) like iDracula's controls

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[dannys95]

OK I'm mad. For TouchPets for example; to buy the t-shirt pack costs real 99 cents?!

[Big Albie]

This looks cool...I guess we'll have to wait for the details, but this could be good.

[stargazer513]

mm cool. although i dont like ngmoco...but reminds me of metroid/ samus arm lol

[ibelongintheforums]

ha.....not quite used to the whole upcoming games forum yet......
sorry

[The Game Reaper]

There is no ******* way that I'm spending a DOLLAR! just to get the rocket launcher!WTF Apple??!!! This is the stupidest move ever. Ngmoco: You just lost a loyal customer!

[stargazer513]

There is no ******* way that I'm spending a DOLLAR! just to get the rocket launcher!WTF Apple??!!! This is the stupidest move ever. Ngmoco: You just lost a loyal customer!

DAMN right. ngmoco already lost me when topple went free with ads. and now this. very stupid...

[dannys95]

There is no ******* way that I'm spending a DOLLAR! just to get the rocket launcher!WTF Apple??!!! This is the stupidest move ever. Ngmoco: You just lost a loyal customer!

+1 :mad:

[ibelongintheforums]

Yep. im not paying 20 bucks and then a dollar a grenade. although it does look good......
follow the link in OP for more screens

[Forerunnerz]

I think that the pay for weapons is gay. If devs want extra money, why not give us map packs or extra levels dlc instead of making us pay extra for things that should have been in a game since release. With this new game, if it has online multiplayer it can become a huge hit and things like a golden weapon or map packs would sell good, maybe an expansion to the campaign?

[Prab]

I think the dollar for the rocket launcher is just a proof of concept.

Ngmoco typically puts their games to plenty of user testing. So I'm pretty sure those test users won't like this pricing idea either...

[kiwi91]

This game looks soooo coool.

Idk about all the in-game charges though.

That makes me sad. :(

[ibelongintheforums]

elio from ng:moco is online.....although he worked on word fu so not sure about this
looks good but the in game charges are ridiculous
and to think i supported it by buying topple 2 today...........

[The Game Reaper]

You know what the beauty of the DLC is? It'll work. It will work like a charm. Your average consumer will be sucked in by the low sale price going; "Wow, this polished game only for a dollar?!". The consumer will then buy the game, starts playing and a little while later a little alert will pop up asking if the person wants to buy something. And she/he will buy it. Just because they want it, and it's painless. No pain at all, you don't even have to leave the app. It's just one little click. The one reason iTunes is so popular is because it's so easy to use.

[BadSanta]

The in-game charges is just a stupid speculation.Stop talkin about it.

[crimson.]

Well I for one would rather not buy a game and then spend more money just to get said games full functionallity.

[crimson.]

The in-game charges is just a stupid speculation.Stop talkin about it.
Why should we listen to you? Do you work to ng:moco?

[ibelongintheforums]

The in-game charges is just a stupid speculation.Stop talkin about it.

"But some devs have come to us and talked about other models they'd like to use. Like subscriptions. A place where you could renew that sub in the app. Some game devs have wanted to be able to sell new levels from within an app. There are many examples of that, like e-books. Like a bookstore built into an app. We supporting these new models in what we call In-App Purchase."Showing off a dialog -- a prompt to purchase an update to mag from within an app. Now a game. "You can purchase a game with 10 levels, then you can tap to update with another 10 levels within the game." Yes, with a nice, intrusive pop up!
http://www.engadget.com/2009/03/17/live-from-apples-iphone-os-3-0-preview-event/

[BadSanta]

I read the coverage,the in game purchase is made for new levels,new content,not just a new shining gun.
Then just w8 and see official annuncement.
If this thing become real just jailbroke it.

[The Game Reaper]

Ngmoco have confirmed that the weapon pricing is just a demo... As said in their Twitter (http://twitter.com/ngmoco):
"you will earn credits as you play - so you'll be able to use those as well to unlock things - pricing is just for demo purposes"

[BadSanta]

Ngmoco have confirmed that the weapon pricing is just a demo... As said in their Twitter (http://twitter.com/ngmoco):
"you will earn credits as you play - so you'll be able to use those as well to unlock things - pricing is just for demo purposes"

As I said,stupid speculation.
Thanks for the corfirmation :)

[supg328911]

Ngmoco have confirmed that the weapon pricing is just a demo... As said in their Twitter (http://twitter.com/ngmoco):
"you will earn credits as you play - so you'll be able to use those as well to unlock things - pricing is just for demo purposes"

o thankk god it was just an example

[Jared2k9]

This game looks awsome. Almost like another metroid game. My only concern is this paying stuff. Are they serious about making us pay extra for weapons and stuff.

[TMAC34]

Noooooooooooooooooo multiplayer over 3g and wi-fi no edge : (. I have an iPhone 2g and I hardly ever have Wi-fi. I'm sure the price of this game could be $30 and people would still buy it cuz its an FPS multiplayer! No edge don't know if i'll even get it then

[CandyNJ66]

I think that the pay for weapons is gay.

I think what you mean instead, is lame. :)

[3Dave]

I don't think anyone should go jumping off any cliffs over this in-game charging for items quite yet. It could be that, just like EA has done via services like Xbox Live, the user can earn the items in game, or pay money to have them right now. Say you don't want to wait until level 10 to get a rocket launcher... then you'd have the option to pay a buck to have it from level 1 on.

I just think it's better to see it in practice first before we start blacklisting dev houses.

I'm sure there will be devs who use it the wrong way, and they will pay the price for it by having users explode on them.

I'm not sayin'... I'm just sayin'.

[M.W.]

Thanks to that twitter that calmed my nerves, I will be watching this very closely.

[ibelongintheforums]

yea, this game looks great. in case anyone was wondering apple put up a video of the thing so go watch it and look at livefire demo!

Sorry rocketman, i fixed it............

[Rocketman919]

yea, this game looks great. in case anyone was wondering apple put up a video of the thing so go watch it and look at livefire demo?

Why is there a question mark at the end of that? It isn't a question.

[timo]

Hey, my name's Tim, I work on LiveFire & wanted to reassure you all that buying weapons is not the point of this game, it was just a tech demo to show what is possible with the new stuff in iPhone OS 3.0 (which we are very excited about!)

Besides maps (obviously a good idea) what do you all think would be a cool thing to buy in-game, that would not screw up the game balance?

[Adams Immersive]

Hey, my name's Tim, I work on LiveFire & wanted to reassure you all that buying weapons is not the point of this game, it was just a tech demo to show what is possible with the new stuff in iPhone OS 3.0 (which we are very excited about!)

Besides maps (obviously a good idea) what do you all think would be a cool thing to buy in-game, that would not screw up the game balance?

Thanks for dropping in! Visual customizations for sale would not bother me at all. (Cash-based gameplay advantages would not be my thing personally.)

I don't think anyone should go jumping off any cliffs over this in-game charging for items quite yet.
...

I don't know--jumping off a cliff would be a nice, quiet kind of protest. Might not be a bad choice :p

[cazure]

I'm not much of an FPS player myself, but it looks like a really cool game. I don't see what all the fuss about DLC is...obviously, if the game becomes too imbalanced, it would only hurt ng:moco.

As for balanced content, I don't know; like I said, I'm no FPS fan, mostly since I've never bothered to try one. ;P But...unlockable (balanced!) classes (if there will be classes here...), or different play styles, or maybe new modes with different goals than just kill-the-other-players, though you'd have to be careful about that. Or maybe a dollar gets you 100 "points" to spend freely on different things, and some basic things (early weapon upgrades, graphics tweaks, random mods, whatever) cost a relatively minor number of points (5, 10, whatever). It wouldn't net you a lot of income unless gamers really buy into it, but people would complain less. ;)

Just some random thoughts from someone with no authority whatsoever. :D

[Kamazar]

Hey, my name's Tim, I work on LiveFire & wanted to reassure you all that buying weapons is not the point of this game, it was just a tech demo to show what is possible with the new stuff in iPhone OS 3.0 (which we are very excited about!)

Besides maps (obviously a good idea) what do you all think would be a cool thing to buy in-game, that would not screw up the game balance?

Stuff that does not affect player strength.

If I'm playing that game, and the guy I'm up against has a rocket launcher, while I have a puny plasma gun, I'm obviously going to lose. While I'm willing to pay maybe $5 for add-ons, I don't want to constantly have to buy new weapons just to win at the game. Take a look at MapleStory. They have their shop pretty much down to pat.

[don_k]

Stuff that does not affect player strength.

If I'm playing that game, and the guy I'm up against has a rocket launcher, while I have a puny plasma gun, I'm obviously going to lose. While I'm willing to pay maybe $5 for add-ons, I don't want to constantly have to buy new weapons just to win at the game. Take a look at MapleStory. They have their shop pretty much down to pat.

That's a really good point. I fully agree with that.

[ibelongintheforums]

Hey, my name's Tim, I work on LiveFire & wanted to reassure you all that buying weapons is not the point of this game, it was just a tech demo to show what is possible with the new stuff in iPhone OS 3.0 (which we are very excited about!)

Besides maps (obviously a good idea) what do you all think would be a cool thing to buy in-game, that would not screw up the game balance?

Hola amigo!!

(Hello friend)

Thanks for stopping by.
New maps, control set maybe, I agree with kazamar it shouldn't affect the players strength directly.

Ha. The hype for this game is already building. And it was just previewed today!!!
I'm excited to get my hands on this guy.
So I'm assuming you are going to make a full game and the DLC will be extra correct??

[hkiphone]

Hey, my name's Tim, I work on LiveFire & wanted to reassure you all that buying weapons is not the point of this game, it was just a tech demo to show what is possible with the new stuff in iPhone OS 3.0 (which we are very excited about!)

Besides maps (obviously a good idea) what do you all think would be a cool thing to buy in-game, that would not screw up the game balance?

Welcome to TouchArcade!
As already posted, please do NOT allow one player to "buy" his way to success. It's happened in online games like iMob, iMafia and Agency Wars already. Some noob pays real cash for a super weapon and kills all with one shot. Hardly a challenge and disheartening for those who worked hard to get good stats.

Maps are good examples of what you can pay for. Say the basic game has 8 levels, but you can buy 5 more levels for a dollar or two. So those who can't process payment (parents locked the account) aren't penalized, but those playing can try something new.

Alternative game modes might be another option, but see what others think too. Eg. If Deathmatch, team DM and Capture the Flag are in standard, maybe set Last Man Standing as paid option. Ensure that game modes like Assault are not paid options, as you need alot of players to ensure it's success and not everyone will buy in.

Lastly, maybe a collection of outlandish costumes just for fun. It changes the appearance but not gameplay superiority.

Overall, paid supplements should allow expansion of gameplay in breadth and depth, not enhancement where someone has an unfair advantage over others.

[The Game Reaper]

Credit packs. You should be able to purchase credits to upgrade guns, weapons, maps etc.

[Zincous]

Credit packs. You should be able to purchase credits to upgrade guns, weapons, maps etc.

Why? So the richest people can dominate and pwn all day? That's no fun.

[RawrReptar]

i'm not really into the whole in-game buying. I would rather buy an update in the itune store. With the update including something like 5 new levels and 2 new weapons together in one update. But game fixes and bug fixes should still be free.

[don_k]

Credit packs. You should be able to purchase credits to upgrade guns, weapons, maps etc.

There there, you're being too realistic. I know the rich can always buy anything, but come on... please spare this game ;)

[Diablohead]

The game looks like great fun, visually awesome too.

As others have said please don't allow money to ruin the balance of combat, buying new characters, maps and maybe visual effects for weapons is great but mostly anything which adjusts player's attack power of movement speed end's up making the game no fun for people who only want to play without buying DLC.

[Benegesserit]

While I don't think ngmoco is dumb enough to implement cash for guns, the fact that the majority of people who will see that 3.0 preview will not know any better and immediately pass this title up is their mistake. They really should have chosen a much more intelligent method for proof of concept...like a map pack.

[IMBA]

looks good, but is it practical to play such games on the iPhone?

[ngmoco - Neil]

Hi everyone,

Thanks for all the thoughts and feedback - rest assured we're not going to do anything to unbalance the game - that, along with the quality of control, ensuring that we have a lag free experience with a high framerate are the most important things for us in terms of making a great multiplayer experience.

Check out Chris Plummer's post @ http://gamemakers.ngmoco.com for some more thoughts on LiveFire, TouchPets & SDK 3.0

--- Neil.

[dannys95]

From the post Neil gave us the link to. Sounds like they were just demoing the in-app purchase thing:



The other feature we showed is In-app Commerce. This feature allows users to purchase content packs and other product extensions from inside an installed app instead of having to buy a separate app whenever a game is modified or extended in a significant way. We showed how In-app Commerce might be used to buy an expansion pack in Touch Pets Dogs or to purchase individual items (a rocket launcher in our example) in LiveFire.

With In-app Commerce, it’s important to point out that although it will be possible to purchase content and/or features directly within a game, ngmoco will always give the highest priority to game balance and the integrity of the core experiences of our games. We won’t use In-app Commerce in ways that break our games, but we do think there are a lot of interesting ways to use the feature to enhance our games over time. In this post I’ll shine a light onto some of the ideas we’re exploring internally. We want to consider external as well as internal feedback as we refine our thinking.

[timo]

Thank you all for your insightful feedback! We aren't ready to reveal too much about this game yet, but we do want to keep our players' passions in mind while designing the commerce/expansion system made possible by the new iPhone OS.

[greenhornet9]

seems like a pretty cool game. Cant wait for it. Plus, ngmoco is always quality.

[Dfender2022]

I would rather have the DLC to be either maps, gamemodes, or credits, BUT, we should still be able to get maps and gamemodes with earned credits. Those of us who bought the game can still get everything without paying, but it just takes a little longer, but those who do not want to wait, can just buy the map or gamemode.

[Coral]

I can definitely understand paying for additional level packs.

I have one question about the push notifications. I don't want to be receiving a notification about a game starting in the middle of a class. Would there be a way to set up a schedule of when to receive a notification? That would be a really cool setting.

[Diablohead]

I can definitely understand paying for additional level packs.

I have one question about the push notifications. I don't want to be receiving a notification about a game starting in the middle of a class. Would there be a way to set up a schedule of when to receive a notification? That would be a really cool setting.
Do you note mute your phone while in class/lectures? it's something you should do.

[Dfender2022]

I can definitely understand paying for additional level packs.

I have one question about the push notifications. I don't want to be receiving a notification about a game starting in the middle of a class. Would there be a way to set up a schedule of when to receive a notification? That would be a really cool setting.

I agree, we should have an ooption to turn push notifications off.

[Coral]

Do you note mute your phone while in class/lectures? it's something you should do.

Oh, I do. There are times when the little switch gets toggled without me knowing it and it could be distracting. I don't think the option to set a schedule or turn off the notifications would hurt anyone.

[le'deuche123]

Just don't let greed keep you from making money....

[Kamazar]

Just don't let greed keep you from making money....

Easier said than done :rolleyes:

[Crimsonpaw]

I can definitely understand paying for additional level packs.

I have one question about the push notifications. I don't want to be receiving a notification about a game starting in the middle of a class. Would there be a way to set up a schedule of when to receive a notification? That would be a really cool setting.
I'm sure there'll be a way to shut off push notifications in the settings menu much like there's the option to turn off WiFi.

Any idea when we're going to see this come to the app store? I just watched the 3.0 summit and the game looks pretty cool, definitely a day 1 purchase.

[Coral]

I would assume it will be released the day 3.0 is made available this summer. Should be a great day.

[cazure]

I agree, we should have an ooption to turn push notifications off.
...isn't there already an option to turn off Push? (It's a global option now, since not many things use it.)

Settings >> Fetch New Data >> Push or Fetch (choose one) >> Advanced (set Push/Fetch prefs for individual mail accounts as of now)

So under "Advanced," maybe you'd be able to choose it for each app.

[Spartan12103]

There is no ******* way that I'm spending a DOLLAR! just to get the rocket launcher!WTF Apple??!!! This is the stupidest move ever. Ngmoco: You just lost a loyal customer!

Agreed. Microtransactions were a dumb idea. Ngmoco lost me with Topple going free then ads too.*sigh*.

[cazure]

Agreed. Microtransactions were a dumb idea. Ngmoco lost me with Topple going free then ads too.*sigh*.
...um, sorry, but I can't help but point you to this: http://gamemakers.ngmoco.com/post/87482002/commerce-sdk-3-and-more-in-livefire-and-touch-pets . I think the link was posted earlier...?

ngmoco was probably requested by Apple to showcase that feature in a particular way, that's all. It wasn't a real plan, just a demo of a feature in the SDK...not a component of the actual game.

[Coral]

New gameplay video is out.
http://vimeo.com/3755535
I don't know how to embed a vimeo video.

It is pretty cool. Shows a 4 player game, probably over wifi.

[Rocketman919]

I just hope the controls work well.

[tastymac]

Im not sure if this has been mentioned, but if your going to allow players to purchase items that you would otherwise have to play for/be skilled to earn, then the items should reflect that fact, such as be a different color.

I could see some advantages and disadvantages. Some might not want to run around with a pink rocket launcher, and be less likely to purchase items, so the devs might not go for this idea.

[arn]

Im not sure if this has been mentioned, but if your going to allow players to purchase items that you would otherwise have to play for/be skilled to earn, then the items should reflect that fact, such as be a different color.

I could see some advantages and disadvantages. Some might not want to run around with a pink rocket launcher, and be less likely to purchase items, so the devs might not go for this idea.

What would be cool is if you could take the rocket launcher from someone if you kill them. That way experience could trump $$. :)

arn

[salsamd]

Im not sure if this has been mentioned, but if your going to allow players to purchase items that you would otherwise have to play for/be skilled to earn, then the items should reflect that fact, such as be a different color.

I could see some advantages and disadvantages. Some might not want to run around with a pink rocket launcher, and be less likely to purchase items, so the devs might not go for this idea.

Well, perhaps better would be to have your attire slightly changed to reflect in game achievements, as the other players see your character fully animated. Somewhat tantamount to medals of honor/achievement. Players without much experience, but with purchased upgrades would then be recognized as such, you would then know how skilled the person you are playing with/against is.

There may be certain things that you can’t buy, such as strength, longevity, shields, etc, and can only acquire thru experience that may offer appropriate competitive advantage….

[bmcvey]

The game looks like it has some potential, but I'd have to see how the controls handled since the first-person shooters have yet to really take off on the iPhone.

As for the In-App Purchases... per weapon will never fly. I could see if it was purchasing multiple weapons as an expansion back... but as a one unit purchase I would imagine that most would just give up on the game.

We'll just have to wait and see what comes of it, but I strongly hope they don't try to pull that.

Pay for things like...

Custom Character Models
Levels Packs
Expansion Weapons Pack (numerous weapons not just one)

[strawdog]

This micro transactions concept is an interesting one and it will be interesting to see how successful it is in Europe/US. It is massively successful in Asia where the concept of buying success is widespread. There are lots of games where users pay for power-up & magic swords etc etc.

It seems that in the west there is more of a feeling that you should succeed through learning to play the game and being good, rather than how much money you have. As I say, be interesting to see how well this model works. Got to say I probably wouldn't play a game where someone with more money than me had an advantage.

[Benegesserit]

Got to say I probably wouldn't play a game where someone with more money than me had an advantage.

Actually in any MMO those who have the money to setup a multibox and control multiple characters at once would have an advantage. So I guess you don't like MMOs.

[Diablohead]

I just watched the gameplay video and I love what I see, I just hope the game plays well, I can imagne some tricky shots when you release and press the screen to shoot in a straight line. Also the speed of the game looks good, not overdone or fast like quake 3 which might be too fast for iPhone controls to be any fun. This feels more like halo.

[shivers]

Actually in any MMO those who have the money to setup a multibox and control multiple characters at once would have an advantage. So I guess you don't like MMOs.

Actually purchasing weapons has different connotation rather than paying for the control of more characters. I'm not a multiboxer, but from what I understand it takes skill and practice to become even a medicore multiboxer and be on the same level as regular teams, let alone better than them.

Lets say I pay for a superior sniper or something I can instantly have a direct advantage over anyone with say, the normal sniper. Paying for more characters does not directly or instantly give you an advantage, as it actually takes a level of skill to properly multibox.

[kieranvanpinxteren]

OKAY let me put this straght I wil get the game. Then i will not buy anything else to do with the game. That is for cheapskates that like to ruin online games. Maybe levels...but only if you get like 20 in a pack. But also it is not deseinged to be single player so maybe it would be fine with the default weapons:rolleyes:

[Hobbes]

Hey, my name's Tim, I work on LiveFire & wanted to reassure you all that buying weapons is not the point of this game, it was just a tech demo to show what is possible with the new stuff in iPhone OS 3.0 (which we are very excited about!)

Besides maps (obviously a good idea) what do you all think would be a cool thing to buy in-game, that would not screw up the game balance?

Well yeah maps are great.... I don't know much about the game yet to say what should cost $... Maybe... Well I guess I'll have to learn more about it...

Keep it up moco!!

[Hobbes]

What would be cool is if you could take the rocket launcher from someone if you kill them. That way experience could trump $$. :)

arn

Agreed. 1000xs agreed.

[Vinny554]

Yep. im not paying 20 bucks and then a dollar a grenade. although it does look good......
follow the link in OP for more screens
Wait....the games gonna be $20??!!

[ibelongintheforums]

Wait....the games gonna be $20??!!

no, it was a guess
i doubt it
ten most likely

[Vinny554]

Hey, my name's Tim, I work on LiveFire & wanted to reassure you all that buying weapons is not the point of this game, it was just a tech demo to show what is possible with the new stuff in iPhone OS 3.0 (which we are very excited about!)

Besides maps (obviously a good idea) what do you all think would be a cool thing to buy in-game, that would not screw up the game balance?

New characters, maps, and game modes :D
Everything a FPS DLC needs bro...

[Vinny554]

Also, (sorry for ANOTHER reply) another thing that caught my attention was that the controls for this game are great, but if they used the control scheme to the already out FPS Hill Billy (tilt to walk + look/tap to shoot), it would also be great.

The controls in Hill Billy are flawless. And that along with the shake-to-jump thing would be awesome. But then again, the sliding of fingers to look give players the benefit of like playing while laying down.

Its debatable. I just hopes its as easy as it looks. :confused:

[lghtnsurf]

I think great controls would be liek space trader.

[indyraider4]

Everyone is complaining about paying for weapons, but I thought I remember hearing that they only did that to give another example of the sdk. Ngmoco has been really great at PR and customer relations, so I doubt they would do something that dumb. I am sure they will use it, but probably for level packs. I think it will be like how rolando gets those secret levels, but where customers pay .99 for 35 secret levels or so. Ngmoco is really smart, and wouldn't upset their fan base like that.

[dannys95]

Everyone is complaining about paying for weapons, but I thought I remember hearing that they only did that to give another example of the sdk. Ngmoco has been really great at PR and customer relations, so I doubt they would do something that dumb. I am sure they will use it, but probably for level packs. I think it will be like how rolando gets those secret levels, but where customers pay .99 for 35 secret levels or so. Ngmoco is really smart, and wouldn't upset their fan base like that.

IN THIS THREAD!!!! THEY SAID IT HERE!!!
They just wanted to show off that feature for Apple. They said it in this very thread. Geez

[randomdude]

+1 :mad:

It's only a demo what the 3.0 allows. NgMoco said that it was a demo of some of the 3.0 in app purchases and it will never do that in Livefire so don't worry

[Vester]

I cant belive NGMOCRAP will make u pay a dollar for a stupid rocket launcher!!!! lost customer

[randomdude]

I cant belive NGMOCRAP will make u pay a dollar for a stupid rocket launcher!!!! lost customer

It's only a demo of the in game 3.0 purchase. They aren't going to let you "buy" your victory. They just wanted to showcase some of the new 3.0 feature.
That's all Folks!

[Vinny554]

Ok, FOR THE LAST TIME:

The "buy weapons" feature is not really in the game. You dont have to pay a dollar for a rocket launcher. It was just used for demo purposes in the SDK demonstration.

Jeez....

[randomdude]

Ok, FOR THE LAST TIME:

The "buy weapons" feature is not really in the game. You dont have to pay a dollar for a rocket launcher. It was just used for demo purposes in the SDK demonstration.

Jeez....

People dont read through the entire thread huh Vinny and assume stuff based on what they see

[randomdude]

This game is gonna be the bomb anyway

[randomdude]

how much will it be?

[Vinny554]

how much will it be?
Seeing how Rolando was $9.99 at start, these cheapos will probably make it 10 bucks or higher.

[theone1007]

Seeing how Rolando was $9.99 at start, these cheapos will probably make it 10 bucks or higher.

Cheapos are you kidding me? The first quality first person shooter with deathmatch costing $10 is called cheap? Wow you are THE cheapest person I've ever met.

Do you even own Rolando? Developing that game probably took MONTHS with all the creativity going on in the game. The game uses every single multitouch gesture you can think of on the iPhone. Swipe, tap, tilt, pinch to zoom, everything! $10 for that verse $10 for a meal at Pick Up Stix. Hmmm...I wonder what I should choose.

[dmbfan1192]

Cheapos are you kidding me? The first quality first person shooter with deathmatch costing $10 is called cheap? Wow you are THE cheapest person I've ever met.

Do you even own Rolando? Developing that game probably took MONTHS with all the creativity going on in the game. The game uses every single multitouch gesture you can think of on the iPhone. Swipe, tap, tilt, pinch to zoom, everything! $10 for that verse $10 for a meal at Pick Up Stix. Hmmm...I wonder what I should choose.
+1... people need to wake up and realize that $10 is not a lot to ask for a quality game.

EDIT: Also, although the first online deathmatch games are all priced at a dollar, they aren't as high quality as Livefire will be.

[aboll2009]

+1... people need to wake up and realize that $10 is not a lot to ask for a quality game.

EDIT: Also, although the first online deathmatch games are all priced at a dollar, they aren't as high quality as Livefire will be.

+2, not that much, unless you live in a box

[Vinny554]

Well I understand that it takes a while to make a game like this, but seriously:

1)...its for an iPod....
2)Even though, $10 is a little high
3)If the price was a little lower, obviously, more people would buy it.

[dashzed]

no, it will probably be priced pretty low. Think about it, online multiplayer is only fun when lots of people are online all the time, so they should just try to sell as many copies as possible.

[TideTime]

no, it will probably be priced pretty low. Think about it, online multiplayer is only fun when lots of people are online all the time, so they should just try to sell as many copies as possible.

yeah, the more people that get in on it the better. I'd guess maybe $5.

[TheBrianPerryProject]

I've been waiting for this game ever since I first layed eyes on it. I've been waiting for a Halo-style WiFi multi player and this may be the answer:D

[Vinny554]

I've been waiting for this game ever since I first layed eyes on it. I've been waiting for a Halo-style WiFi multi player and this may be the answer:D
Dude...same....

[Censorship]

Dude...same....

I've been waiting for this game ever since I first layed eyes on it. I've been waiting for a Halo-style WiFi multi player and this may be the answer:D

It looks more like an UT game more than Halo. Yes this looks like an awsome game and I hope this will be worth it.

[Raphie]

will this have team and mission in it?
i want it to be "tactical"

[CandyNJ66]

Looks so cool. The price doesn't matter to me, I just look forward to it and hope it's well done.

[Puzzles5]

What would be cool is if you could take the rocket launcher from someone if you kill them.

[Vinny554]

Does anybody have an idea when its coming out?? If not, does anybody know when iPhone 3.0 is? They said its coming out around that time.

[dmbfan1192]

What would be cool is if you could take the rocket launcher from someone if you kill them.

Did you copy and paste Arn's comment? They are identical.

What would be cool is if you could take the rocket launcher from someone if you kill them.

[yourofl10]

i'm going to be picking this up asap

[Vinny554]

i'm going to be picking this up asap
ddiittoo

[theone1007]

Does anybody have an idea when its coming out?? If not, does anybody know when iPhone 3.0 is? They said its coming out around that time.

iPhone 3.0 should be coming out around June.
It's probably going to be announced here:

http://developer.apple.com/wwdc/

LiveFire should come out mid June-early July.

[iphonelover1223]

this game looks like its going to be AMAZING but....

im concerned with the new in game buying feature with iphone 3.0....

it costs $.99 for a shirt in a stupid dog game? .99 for one gun???!

wow...

[dannys95]

this game looks like its going to be AMAZING but....

im concerned with the new in game buying feature with iphone 3.0....

it costs $.99 for a shirt in a stupid dog game? .99 for one gun???!

wow...

sigh. IT WAS TO DEMO 3.0 ONLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[iphonelover1223]

so they wont actully be that much??

then why would they make them that much in the demo/preview

if anything they would make it cheaper in the demo so people think it wont be that expensive

[K.D!]

so they wont actully be that much??

then why would they make them that much in the demo/preview

if anything they would make it cheaper in the demo so people think it wont be that expensive

They won't cost ANYTHING in the actual game. It was just on the demo to showcase the in app purchasing feature possible with 3.0

[iphonelover1223]

ooooo

oh my god thanks for clearing that up

i cannot wait for this game!!

[beetle004]

Will this work over edge/gprs or does it need wifi ??

[Vinny554]

Will this work over edge/gprs or does it need wifi ??
Edge, WiFi, and 3G. Basically, if you can connect to the internet, you can play LiveFire online ;)

[pharmx]

What would be cool is if you could take the rocket launcher from someone if you kill them. That way experience could trump $$. :)

arn

Arn, you're a genius! This is a great solution...unless you suck at the game AND have no money, lol

[beetle004]

Edge, WiFi, and 3G. Basically, if you can connect to the internet, you can play LiveFire online ;)

thx a lot.:)

[Vester]

will u be able to play offline vs. bots? cuz i dont always have wifi

[Vinny554]

will u be able to play offline vs. bots? cuz i dont always have wifi

No one knows if there even IS a singleplayer mode at all....ngmoco is pissing me off because the only games they seem to care about that they're making is Rolando 2, Touch Pets, and Star Defense.

To Ngmoco:
NO ONE F*CKING CARES ABOUT PETS, LITTLE BALL PLEOPLE AND ROBOT ALIENS! WE NEED LIVEFIRE!!

[robertf224]

No one knows if there even IS a singleplayer mode at all....ngmoco is pissing me off because the only games they seem to care about that they're making is Rolando 2, Touch Pets, and Star Defense.

To Ngmoco:
NO ONE F*CKING CARES ABOUT PETS, LITTLE BALL PLEOPLE AND ROBOT ALIENS! WE NEED LIVEFIRE!!

I don't care about pets or robot aliens, but i do care about little ball people =]

[Coral]

No one knows if there even IS a singleplayer mode at all....ngmoco is pissing me off because the only games they seem to care about that they're making is Rolando 2, Touch Pets, and Star Defense.

To Ngmoco:
NO ONE F*CKING CARES ABOUT PETS, LITTLE BALL PLEOPLE AND ROBOT ALIENS! WE NEED LIVEFIRE!!

Wow. NG MOCO made it very clear that Live Fire was going to be coming out for iPhone 3.0 because it uses many features not available in 2.x. Seeing as 3.0 is not out, you can't expect them to have Live Fire ready to go. Just chill out and wait for July.

[Vinny554]

Wow. NG MOCO made it very clear that Live Fire was going to be coming out for iPhone 3.0 because it uses many features not available in 2.x. Seeing as 3.0 is not out, you can't expect them to have Live Fire ready to go. Just chill out and wait for July.

I know :( its just, look at LiveFire...then look at Touch Pets, Rolando 2, and Star Defense. They all look so stupid yet they're rubbing it in our faces.

...and the fact that LiveFire looks amazing....

[theone1007]

I know :( its just, look at LiveFire...then look at Touch Pets, Rolando 2, and Star Defense. They all look so stupid yet they're rubbing it in our faces.

...and the fact that LiveFire looks amazing....

Ummm... you make no sense whatsoever. There's a lot of people waiting for Star Defense, Rolando 2, and I guess Touch Pets. Rolando 2 is coming out in the summer around the same time as LiveFire and Star Defense is coming out this month because it doesn't use any of 3.0's features.

[nizy]

I know :( its just, look at LiveFire...then look at Touch Pets, Rolando 2, and Star Defense. They all look so stupid yet they're rubbing it in our faces.

...and the fact that LiveFire looks amazing....

Just because you don't like some genres or style of games, doesn't make them stupid, crap or not worth making. Rolando in my opinion is one of the best games so far for iPhone (and very successful for ngmoco) and fully deserves a sequel. Tower defense games are very popular on the app store so Star Defense makes sense. And as for Touch pets, its also gonna find a market in the casual crowd. Different games for different people, they can't just make FPS's all the time (they are not ID software).

Anyway, I hope they spend the months leading up to the 3.0 release optimizing the game, tweaking the controls, framerate, graphics and online capabilities. I got Caster yesterday and the controls in that work very well and are pretty similar to the vids of LiveFire.

[inferi22]

I think they need to release it before 3.0 and update itcwith in game purchases

[nizy]

I think they need to release it before 3.0 and update itcwith in game purchases

It also uses some of the connectivity features of 3.0 (and probably other stuff they haven't shown off yet) such as the push notifications, so I guess it will not launch until 3.0 does. Besides, I'd rather they spend the remaining time making sure the game is great! :D

[equinox]

This is the game Im most excited for upcoming iphone games

I will be so disappointed if all this hype builds up for nothing....:(

[dogmeat]

This is the game Im most excited for upcoming iphone games

I will be so disappointed if all this hype builds up for nothing....:(

its just a game, i really wonder what your expectations are.

[Vinny554]

Just because you don't like some genres or style of games, doesn't make them stupid, crap or not worth making. Rolando in my opinion is one of the best games so far for iPhone (and very successful for ngmoco) and fully deserves a sequel. Tower defense games are very popular on the app store so Star Defense makes sense. And as for Touch pets, its also gonna find a market in the casual crowd. Different games for different people, they can't just make FPS's all the time (they are not ID software).

Anyway, I hope they spend the months leading up to the 3.0 release optimizing the game, tweaking the controls, framerate, graphics and online capabilities. I got Caster yesterday and the controls in that work very well and are pretty similar to the vids of LiveFire.

Ok ok, I missworded (im not even sure if thats a word).

I'm not saying that Rolando 2 and Star Defense are bad game ideas or not worth making or anything.

As a matter of fact, I think its great that they're making games of all genres. The more people that play the better, its for everyone. But what I AM trying to say is, MOST people are waiting for LiveFire out of all of them, and the fact that they post ALOT more about the other games (Rolando 2, Star Defense, Touch Pets) is what pisses me off. I mean c'mon. The front page of their site is
ROLANDO 2 COMING SOON!
STAR DEFENSE COMING SOON!
TOUCH PETS COMING SOON!
But no LiveFire???
People need to be updated on what they're waiting for. :rolleyes:

[STP_Tim]

LiveFire is not an official game... it was originally a tech demo that they were thinking of making into a game.

[Vester]

Ummm... you make no sense whatsoever. There's a lot of people waiting for Star Defense, Rolando 2, and I guess Touch Pets. Rolando 2 is coming out in the summer around the same time as LiveFire and Star Defense is coming out this month because it doesn't use any of 3.0's features.
+1, all their up coming games looks good, in fact i think star defence looks better than livefire!

[dmbfan1192]

Ok ok, I missworded (im not even sure if thats a word).

I'm not saying that Rolando 2 and Star Defense are bad game ideas or not worth making or anything.

As a matter of fact, I think its great that they're making games of all genres. The more people that play the better, its for everyone. But what I AM trying to say is, MOST people are waiting for LiveFire out of all of them, and the fact that they post ALOT more about the other games (Rolando 2, Star Defense, Touch Pets) is what pisses me off. I mean c'mon. The front page of their site is
ROLANDO 2 COMING SOON!
STAR DEFENSE COMING SOON!
TOUCH PETS COMING SOON!
But no LiveFire???
People need to be updated on what they're waiting for. :rolleyes:
That's because Livefire isn't really coming soon; the others are. :rolleyes:

[Vinny554]

That's because Livefire isn't really coming soon; the others are. :rolleyes:

Rolando 2 isn't coming until mid-summer, along with LiveFire.

[inferi22]

LiveFire is not an official game... it was originally a tech demo that they were thinking of making into a game.

that was the aspect of paying actual cash for weapons that isnt official im pretty sure this was officially announced along with touchpets

[theone1007]

Rolando 2 isn't coming until mid-summer, along with LiveFire.

Rolando 2 isn't even made by ngmoco, only published. To generate hype, I think Hand Circus wants to do it this way and reveal the characters. Plus, there's so much information needed to be released about Rolando 2.

LiveFire... what more info do you need? What type of weapons? Seriously, do you think ngmoco would update people on the type of weapons like they do with Rolando? They've already given out all we need to know. It's an FPS that uses iPhone's 3.0 capabilities period. There's nothing else besides weapons and maps that is needed. You have a video on the gameplay of LiveFire, yet we don't even know how Rolando 2 is going to work (although I'm assuming it's going to be just like number 1) but yeah, no gameplay video on Rolando but there is for LiveFire.

[Vinny554]

true, but they hide it too much...

[qasim]

I really cannot wait for this..

Will it come out in June or July??

Thanks.. lol :)

[Vester]

I really cannot wait for this..

Will it come out in June or July??

Thanks.. lol :)
i belive june or early july

[iphonelover1223]

im really very very very excited for livefire, i have plenty of first person shooters on my phone but none seem to be very good... whether its controls, lag, or just a plain bad game

i have a good feeling and im sure this will exceed my expectations and be the best fps in the app store, not mention the online multiplayer will be amazing!


this game will most likely come out as soon as iphone 3.0 comes out, which nobody knows, only Steve Jobs and apple...

it is estimated to come out maybe june or early summer,
and i think you can expect livefire to come out days, hours, maybe even minutes after....

CANT WAIT!!!

[qasim]

Okay thanks for the answers guys!! Wow i reallly cannot wait.. I keep watching the video (LOL) and it looks INCREDIBLE!!

just one question, is the online play where you can play against ANYONE in the world? like iFPS Online (except people hardly play :p). And for your wingman, is it one of your friends in the games?? And the in-game chat. Is it where you can talk to someone like with the XBOX Live on 360 with the headset?? Like can you talk to the other person and can you hear a reply from them?? that's what it looked like in the presentation.. Thanks!!! Lol :D

[inferi22]

im really very very very excited for livefire, i have plenty of first person shooters on my phone but none seem to be very good... whether its controls, lag, or just a plain bad game

i have a good feeling and im sure this will exceed my expectations and be the best fps in the app store, not mention the online multiplayer will be amazing!


this game will most likely come out as soon as iphone 3.0 comes out, which nobody knows, only Steve Jobs and apple...

it is estimated to come out maybe june or early summer,
and i think you can expect livefire to come out days, hours, maybe even minutes after....

CANT WAIT!!!

if you expect it to excede your expectations will it really excede your expectations(think about it)

[iphonelover1223]

thanks for making my brain hurt inferi22... haha

well you know what i mean, this game will be AWESOME!!!!

[nizy]

My guess is that this (and maybe Sims 3) will be a launch game for 3.0 as Apple will want some cool apps and games to show off their new OS. They are most likely working closely with some "favoured" devs to get some quality titles available at launch.

I would assume Apple will show off 3.0 alongside the rumoured new iPhone at WWDC in June. It'll most likely then be a July launch.

[qasim]

My guess is that this (and maybe Sims 3) will be a launch game for 3.0 as Apple will want some cool apps and games to show off their new OS. They are most likely working closely with some "favoured" devs to get some quality titles available at launch.

I would assume Apple will show off 3.0 alongside the rumoured new iPhone at WWDC in June. It'll most likely then be a July launch.

Yeah.. maybe.. great assumption!! That would be great.. Hopefully it's true!! lol

[Vinny554]

duude that would be awesome!!

[qasim]

Actually now I have a doubt for that (lol).. because it's up to the devs to release it, and Apple has no control.. But i realllly (i mean REALLY) hope they come out when 3.0 is released!! :D lol

[Korean]

the game looks good but damn that voice in the video just pisses me off

[Lombardo]

any new news?

[qasim]

any new news?

Nothin much. I asked the guy from Twitter these questions

Question: "Any new news on LiveFire? Thx!" (Something like that lol)

Answer: "No news other than it's looking good and we're targeting release around the launch of OS 3.0"

Question: "Any exact expected release on LiveFire? And is it just online multiplayer, or is there a campaign? Price details? Jus' curious! Thx!"

Answer: "We're not stating a release date yet, Online hosted multiplayer against anon + friends, no pricing details yet"

It's a bit helpful lol.. So we should be seeing this early/mid June..e :) Can't wait for this and The Sims 3!! :)

[ipod1098]

will livefire and sims 3 work on the ipod touch 2g or only 3g

[yourofl10]

will livefire and sims 3 work on the ipod touch 2g or only 3g

It's the OS you have I think so, yes it will work on 2g or 3g just the OS matters (device rarely does though)

[ipod1098]

thanks yourofl10

[equinox]

heres some new info on livefire:

http://www.virtualgoodsnews.com/2009/05/ngmoco-details-microtransaction-armors-for-iphone-fps-livefire.html

http://gamemakers.ngmoco.com/post/109521499/identity-in-app-commerce-in-fps-our-deathmatch

[qasim]

heres some new info on livefire:

http://www.virtualgoodsnews.com/2009/05/ngmoco-details-microtransaction-armors-for-iphone-fps-livefire.html

http://gamemakers.ngmoco.com/post/109521499/identity-in-app-commerce-in-fps-our-deathmatch

Yeah i saw that earlier today as well.. Pretty interesting info.. At least we won't have to pay for the rocket launcher!! lol.. and I like that you can view your own and other people's stats and rankings, etc.. lol :).. Looks like the first good quality FPS (iFPS Online has potential, but not quite good...) :)

[dmbfan1192]

Online only? I'm getting this but It's hard to believe that they won't have some sort of offline gameplay (practice mode, missions, etc).

[nizy]

Online only? I'm getting this but It's hard to believe that they won't have some sort of offline gameplay (practice mode, missions, etc).

Yeah I think there has to be something offline, even just deathmatches against bots...so we can practise and hone our skills! :D

As for the armor purchasing, it could work providing ngmoco carefully tunes the mechanics of each item relative to the base model giving you a noticeable, but not over the top improvement and a sacrifice elsewhere, as they describe. Also, at the same time they need to rank up and improve player stats to ensure you play better players due to the upgrade - it would be unfair to play at the same level with the additiional benefit, but better players should be able to cope...

[TideTime]

Yeah, I love games with rankings. I'd have to expect there'd be offline bots as well. Not enough people have access to internet all the time to make it online only.

[yourofl10]

New Front Page article (http://toucharcade.com/2009/05/19/ngmoco-discusses-livefire-identify-system-and-in-app-commerce/)

[Chumbake]

Yeah I think there has to be something offline, even just deathmatches against bots...so we can practise and hone our skills!

For me, it doesn't have to have offline play. You can always practice online. I'd rather have Ngmoco spend their time making a GREAT multiplayer!

[AttackOfThePwned]

Nothin much. I asked the guy from Twitter these questions

Question: "Any new news on LiveFire? Thx!" (Something like that lol)

Answer: "No news other than it's looking good and we're targeting release around the launch of OS 3.0"

Question: "Any exact expected release on LiveFire? And is it just online multiplayer, or is there a campaign? Price details? Jus' curious! Thx!"

Answer: "We're not stating a release date yet, Online hosted multiplayer against anon + friends, no pricing details yet"

It's a bit helpful lol.. So we should be seeing this early/mid June..e :) Can't wait for this and The Sims 3!! :)

Where did you get early/mid June from that chat? With WWDC not until June 10-14, new hardware and possibly a close to final OS 3.0 expected to be showcased then and a release for the new hardware being rumored around July 17, 2009 I fully expect to see the OS 3.0 debut during that time, around July 17.

Sims 3 is going to debut next week (June 2 I think) on the iPhone and then will be upgraded when OS 3.0 comes out.

http://venturebeat.com/2009/05/27/ea-pulls-out-the-stops-for-launch-of-sims-3-iphone-game/

So mid July would be my guess for new hardware and OS 3.0 final debut.

LiveFire does look good though.

[antonioj]

Anyone knows if there will be team online play? I hope so, just deathmatch is not enough...

[DreamzX]

i heard that they are using the new in-app purchase feature so you have to buy the weapons. If thats the case i'd rather stick to pc games cause im not willing to waste $1 on a weapon.

[Marioman619]

i heard that they are using the new in-app purchase feature so you have to buy the weapons. If thats the case i'd rather stick to pc games cause im not willing to waste $1 on a weapon.

That was just to demo the new feature of iPhone OS 3.0. They confirmed that.

[DreamzX]

just hope that developers won't be doing that to the good games or we'll be broke.:(:(

[Vinny554]

I can wait for this game no longer....

[han0007]

Check out dis mad game play vid of live fire.
click the link and scroll down to live fire.
http://toucharcade.com/2009/03/27/hands-on-with-ngmocos-touch-pet-dogs-and-livefire/

[han0007]

When do you'se think this awesomeeee game will come out?



My second post lol
:)

[Vinny554]

June 17ish

[han0007]

lol about june 17 09 thats only a couple of weeks away. That's great!

[antonioj]

that would mean 3.0 would be out before that...seriously doubt that

[Vinny554]

They said they're aiming at a release near the 3.0 debut...

[Lombardo]

They said they're aiming at a release near the 3.0 debut...

Ugh 3.0's already come and gone and still no Killtest/Livefire

[dannys95]

Ugh 3.0's already come and gone and still no Killtest/Livefire

Would you rather them release it now and it not be finished / polished?

[WunDaii]

Would you rather them release it now and it not be finished / polished?
yeah i would... then let them upodate it.

[Lombardo]

haha yea me too I can't wait anymore

[Vinny554]

Yeah really where the fuc|< is this game. The first game videos released for this were from like 5 months ago. Everything Ive seen on it looks finished/polished.

[randomdude]

Building up hype/optimizing it for the iPhone 2g, 3g, 3gs, and iPod Touch 1g, iPod touch 2g, And possibly the iPod touch 3g (third generation and not the 3G Network)

[nizy]

Yeah really where the fuc|< is this game. The first game videos released for this were from like 5 months ago. Everything Ive seen on it looks finished/polished.

Actually it was mid-March, so only 3 months. :)

Why would they show off stuff that isn't finished or polished?


yeah i would... then let them upodate it.

WOW, ngmoco must be doing something right...they have guys like you wanting to pay to beta test their game! :eek:


I would much rather they get this right 1st time. Its a online multiplayer only game (no single player) so if they mess that up, the game will completely suck. It has so much potential that they should get it right without requiring fixes in updates!

[Tavoss]

Sorry to bring up a dead horse...

In the menu when watching the video of livefire, they show a voice chat feature, any word if thats still in there? God I hope so, wifi MP WITH voice.... F yes

[efp1]

Sorry to bring up a dead horse...

In the menu when watching the video of livefire, they show a voice chat feature, any word if thats still in there? God I hope so, wifi MP WITH voice.... F yes
Well, when they demoed the game they said it would have voice chat. It's also an API that the iPhone 3.0 has for developers to use. I'm pretty confident it'll be in there!

[Vinny554]

They seriously need to give us some more updates on this game. Its taking so long people lost interest.

[yourofl10]

They seriously need to give us some more updates on this game. Its taking so long people lost interest.

I for the longest time I forgot this game..I hope it comes out soon!

[Vinny554]

I for the longest time I forgot this game..I hope it comes out soon!

See what I mean :)

And it wont. They havnt even entered Phase 3 yet!
(This game has phases to which it releases. Phase 1 was LiveFire, Phase 2 was KillTest, Phase 3....yea)

[Tavoss]

Yup, they def need to release more info. Now that Rolando 2 is out hopfully there will be more focus on it!

[cookiemonster]

mm cool. although i dont like ngmoco...but reminds me of metroid/ samus arm lol

dido to both statements

[kqjrjkrawr]

Hopefully by the beginning of next week they will release more info on this game, to keep the hype going. Hopefully by the end of the month it will be release or at least submitted.

[han0007]

i know how long they wanna take....

[Vinny554]

I almost forgot this game even existed anymore....

[dashzed]

is it just me or are they being worse than EA about releasing games on time? I've been wanting this one ever since i got my very first ipod some years ago:eek:!!!!!

they really need to just buck up and release it within the next month or so, even if it isn't the perfect game yet. At this point i would accept anything:mad:

[The Game Reaper]

is it just me or are they being worse than EA about releasing games on time? I've been wanting this one ever since i got my very first ipod some years ago:eek:!!!!!

they really need to just buck up and release it within the next month or so, even if it isn't the perfect game yet. At this point i would accept anything:mad:
EA? This is an ngmoco game.

[Pug4Death]

is it just me or are they being worse than EA about releasing games on time? I've been wanting this one ever since i got my very first ipod some years ago:eek:!!!!!

they really need to just buck up and release it within the next month or so, even if it isn't the perfect game yet. At this point i would accept anything:mad:

It was just announced this February...So you would accept a half-baked, laggy, piece of bull rather than a polished masterpiece?

I'm not excited for this anyway.

[Xandan]

is it just me or are they being worse than EA about releasing games on time? I've been wanting this one ever since i got my very first ipod some years ago:eek:!!!!!

they really need to just buck up and release it within the next month or so, even if it isn't the perfect game yet. At this point i would accept anything:mad:

EA? This is an ngmoco game.

you need to read better mate ;)

[nizy]

is it just me or are they being worse than EA about releasing games on time? I've been wanting this one ever since i got my very first ipod some years ago:eek:!!!!!

they really need to just buck up and release it within the next month or so, even if it isn't the perfect game yet. At this point i would accept anything:mad:

That is possibly the most stupid post i've read on these forums.
1) They never announced a release date, only shortly after 3.0. "Shortly" could mean any period of time.
2) The only EA iPhone game that saw significant delays (that i remember anyway) was NFS. And that was only a few months.
3) The only ngmoco game that I remember being delayed was Rolando 2 and that was only by 1 day!
4) How could you want a game years before it had been announced, or the sdk even written and released?
5) You're stupid if you want them to release a buggy, half finished game. Thats like you wanting to pay them so that you can beta test their game! There are plenty of crap fps on the app store, why don't you go and try them? ;)

The thing is, if they did release it, and it was buggy, online play was lagging, controls sloppy etc. i bet you'd complain - 1 of the many stating its not worth the "premium" price and ngmoco sucks etc. With a game that focuses on online multiplayer, lots of testing and refinement will be required (especially for 3g networks) to achieve a decent quality of gameplay, otherwise it'll completely suck donkey balls.

[PeterM11]

is it just me or are they being worse than EA about releasing games on time? I've been wanting this one ever since i got my very first ipod some years ago:eek:!!!!!

they really need to just buck up and release it within the next month or so, even if it isn't the perfect game yet. At this point i would accept anything:mad:
Ummmm dude.... they never released a date... sooo yeah.

[Tavoss]

true, they never said a release date, which I have no problem, I just REALLY want some new info, screenshot, video, date :P lol

[jonathan likes iphone]

They said this summer. That gives them until the end of August.

It's not like there isn't anything else to play. I want this bad, but have so many other games to beat/get my money's worth out of, I'm fine with an August release...I would like some more info, though.

[STP_Tim]

My guess: Touch Pets: Dogs in July, FPS in August, new announcements in September.

[The Game Reaper]

you need to read better mate ;)
I know, I know.

[wyse]

when is it coming out?

[Tavoss]

when is it coming out?
No one knows

[nizy]

No one knows

except ngmoco and/or apple...:)

[SoCal_Sponger]

Im keeping $10 on my itunes account for this game, not sure what to expect for the price. But all I know is Im almost down to the $10...so no new games soon until this comes out!

[yournothere]

even ngmoco doesnt kno when this will be out. because of the approval process. Its probably in Stage 3 by now. They should update us by now.

[Ajg3]

I read somewhere that they discontinued it

[theone1007]

Check out this tweet.

http://twitter.com/ngneil/status/2707133505

Shows they're still working on it.

[yournothere]

I read somewhere that they discontinued it

uhhhh well you read wrong lo. or its a fake fact. im pretty sure this is one game they wont stop making. So many people are looking forward to this and people would be pissed if they stopped working on it. LIKE ME!!!XD

[Slapshot]

Man this is gonna be the biggest dissapointment since Fruit Stripes gum...

[swigo8]

looks awesome, but i HATE pointless in-game purchases, or stuff that should come w/ the game!!!!

[robertf224]

Man this is gonna be the biggest dissapointment since Fruit Stripes gum...

haha

[barl]

I think this game will come soon.
But because of the lack of anything new; no videos, screenshots, info - people seem to be doubting whether it will ever hit the AppStore.

I think this is a game that a lot of people are dying to get their hands on, so eventually, it will come.

I don't think that ng:moco would discontinue a project like this.

[mjmoco]

The new ngmoshow is live, and it features some hands-on time with our FPS.

Enjoy (http://www.youtube.com/user/ngmoco).

--MJ

[kmacleod]

The new ngmoshow is live, and it features some hands-on time with our FPS.

Enjoy (http://www.youtube.com/user/ngmoco).

--MJ

Just watched it, looks great!

Still can't think of a name though, can you? ;)

[ultimo]

uhhhh well you read wrong lo. or its a fake fact. im pretty sure this is one game they wont stop making. So many people are looking forward to this and people would be pissed if they stopped working on it. LIKE ME!!!XD
fake fact.... rotflmao

[Mr. Clean]

so now theyre just calling it "FPS"....well where the F is it at?!

[LBG]

so now theyre just calling it "FPS"....well where the F is it at?!

Patience, Patience.
They won't call it 'FPS', lol. They are probably just creating lot's of hype by changing it's name/not giving it a name.

If they hadn't changed it's name, it wouldn't have as many articles about it in sites such as pocket gamer. And therefore, less people (potential customers) would have heard about it.

It's like Freeverse's 'Warpack Grunts' but the other way around - they are giving gameplay but not a name.

[Mr. Clean]

Patience, Patience.
They won't call it 'FPS', lol. They are probably just creating lot's of hype by changing it's name/not giving it a name.

If they hadn't changed it's name, it wouldn't have as many articles about it in sites such as pocket gamer. And therefore, less people (potential customers) would have heard about it.

It's like Freeverse's 'Warpack Grunts' but the other way around - they are giving gameplay but not a name.

makes sense...

at least they put out that little video...and a video USUALLY means...its getting close. it looked pretty good too...i dont know why they didnt want to use the name livefire.....i actually kinda liked it.

they should call it...i dunno haha i say leave it as livefire....

[weedeatinflyincougar]

makes sense...

at least they put out that little video...and a video USUALLY means...its getting close. it looked pretty good too...i dont know why they didnt want to use the name livefire.....i actually kinda liked it.

they should call it...i dunno haha i say leave it as livefire....

lucasarts has a game called livefire. i dunno, but that may be the reason they changed it

[Squirt Reynolds]

It's like Freeverse's 'Warpack Grunts' but the other way around - they are giving gameplay but not a name.

Nice :D

[Mr. Clean]

man its been so long i completely forgot about the lucasarts game....

hmmm...

[qasim]

Search ngmoshow in the itunes store for a free podcast of some new footage of the game. looks cool. lol

[Ryan el champ]

im keeping my eyes open for this one. the video remind me of halo 1, so thats a big plus for me

[swigo8]

screenies and video look awesome, cant wait fort it!

[randomdude]

Hurry summer end already so we can have this game and Gang$tar!

[oliath]

It's like Freeverse's 'Warpack Grunts' but the other way around - they are giving gameplay but not a name.

Hahaha
I agree 100 percent.
Warpack was the biggest over-hyped piece of turd in the world.

Since playing Baseball Slugger i have realised just how well a multiplayer game can work on this platform.

I really hope ngmoco put together a SOLID matchmaking system and don't hack together some junk 'challenge' based system like they have for most their other games.

[NomaD]

Hahaha
I agree 100 percent.
Warpack was the biggest over-hyped piece of turd in the world.

Since playing Baseball Slugger i have realised just how well a multiplayer game can work on this platform.

I really hope ngmoco put together a SOLID matchmaking system and don't hack together some junk 'challenge' based system like they have for most their other games.

i played warpack grunts for like 2 days.... now its just sitting there.... what a waste :mad:

[kmacleod]

i played warpack grunts for like 2 days.... now its just sitting there.... what a waste :mad:

I really think the problem with it was the control system. I bet it would have been a lot more fun as a dual-stick shooter instead of a point-click thing.

[NomaD]

I really think the problem with it was the control system. I bet it would have been a lot more fun as a dual-stick shooter instead of a point-click thing.

yeah the control system was absolutely horrible. thumb kept getting in the way then you couldnt move while shooting.... all its doing now is taking up memory. but i also dont like how you have to play through the tutorial levels again when you lose

[kmacleod]

yeah the control system was absolutely horrible. thumb kept getting in the way then you couldnt move while shooting.... all its doing now is taking up memory. but i also dont like how you have to play through the tutorial levels again when you lose

It felt like a pretty decent game though, except for the controls. I wanted to like the game, you know?

Anyways, hopefully they'll fix them in an update someday.

[mrchennyken]

Any idea how much this will cost?

[yournothere]

It felt like a pretty decent game though, except for the controls. I wanted to like the game, you know?

Anyways, hopefully they'll fix them in an update someday.

this thread is about ngmocos first person shooter not warpack grunts. talk about that in its own forum.

[kmacleod]

Any idea how much this will cost?

It seems like a given that it should cost between 6 and 10 dollars, but they could surprise us. Should be an instant-buy at that price, unless they actually try to charge real money for weapon upgrades, like the example used at the introduction event.

[kmacleod]

this thread is about ngmocos first person shooter not warpack grunts. talk about that in its own forum.

If you have anything new to discuss regarding LiveFire that hasn't already been mentioned and gone over 50 times, I'll be glad to talk about it.

[yournothere]

If you have anything new to discuss regarding LiveFire that hasn't already been mentioned and gone over 50 times, I'll be glad to talk about it.

Is it called livefire now? Well, to tell you the truth there is nothing to talk about because ngmoco isnt telling us anything and i hate them for doing that. they should keep up to date

[kmacleod]

Is it called livefire now? Well, to tell you the truth there is nothing to talk about because ngmoco isnt telling us anything and i hate them for doing that. they should keep up to date

I have no idea what it is called, they just kept calling it "Our FPS" in the latest video. I really don't think they have any idea what to name it. It can be tough to think of names for things sometimes, even for a big company.

I don't think it is secrecy, I bet they just don't know. LiveFire and Killtest are both terrible names, and I think they know that.

[yournothere]

I have no idea what it is called, they just kept calling it "Our FPS" in the latest video. I really don't think they have any idea what to name it. It can be tough to think of names for things sometimes, even for a big company.

I don't think it is secrecy, I bet they just don't know. LiveFire and Killtest are both terrible names, and I think they know that.

its official the game is now called Our FPS

[kmacleod]

its official the game is now called Our FPS

That name is still better than "Kill Test" :P

They should do a naming contest, with prizes and stuff for the best votes. They could give a copy of the game out for free to the winner, maybe with a custom character skin or something like that. Anything to drum up publicity for the game... it has been a long time since they've posted any real information.

[dashzed]

jesus christ, has it been a year already? in the time that they took i could have downloaded the SDK, learned how to program and made my own fricking multiplayer FPS game. Why the heck are they taking so long? i know i sound whiny, but i have seriously been waiting for this game since before i had an iphone(and i've had it for quite a while). After a certain point, the excitement just dries up and it simply becomes annoying. ngmoco needs to learn the difference between building up hype and wearing down patience. [//:end.uppity.monologue]

[mrchennyken]

jesus christ, has it been a year already? in the time that they took i could have downloaded the SDK, learned how to program and made my own fricking multiplayer FPS game. Why the heck are they taking so long? i know i sound whiny, but i have seriously been waiting for this game since before i had an iphone(and i've had it for quite a while). After a certain point, the excitement just dries up and it simply becomes annoying. ngmoco needs to learn the difference between building up hype and wearing down patience. [//:end.uppity.monologue]

Making a game isn't as easy as it sounds. It takes time to make a REALLY polished smooth game.

[Vinny554]

Making a game isn't as easy as it sounds. It takes time to make a REALLY polished smooth game.

But still.....by now?? I first saw the tech demo clip back around january and THAT looked polished...that was around 6 months ago.

[kmacleod]

But still.....by now?? I first saw the tech demo clip back around january and THAT looked polished...that was around 6 months ago.

There is a reason ngmoco's games play so well compared to most of the other games in the store - they aren't rushed out unfinished.

[yournothere]

There is a reason ngmoco's games play so well compared to most of the other games in the store - they aren't rushed out unfinished.

lol no games are sent out unfinished there just made really bad

[kmacleod]

lol no games are sent out unfinished there just made really bad

Haven't seen any games from ngmoco that are poorly made. In fact, they all seem to have a huge amount of polish. I don't like the gameplay in all of them, but I can respect that they're well made, which is more than I can say for 99% of the rest of the crap on the store.

I don't know how many games I've seen rushed out with broken interfaces or ugly screen filtering. Some don't even respect the silent switch on the device.
There has been another trend lately of releasing games that don't have any content, like Minigore. Rather than including levels, they promise to deliver after they get your money.

I haven't seen ngmoco do any of those things before...

[yournothere]

Haven't seen any games from ngmoco that are poorly made. In fact, they all seem to have a huge amount of polish. I don't like the gameplay in all of them, but I can respect that they're well made, which is more than I can say for 99% of the rest of the crap on the store.

I don't know how many games I've seen rushed out with broken interfaces or ugly screen filtering. Some don't even respect the silent switch on the device.
There has been another trend lately of releasing games that don't have any content, like Minigore. Rather than including levels, they promise to deliver after they get your money.

I haven't seen ngmoco do any of those things before...

there just keeping the game for them selfs so they can go up the rank and no one can ever catch up to them. evil little devs!!!!

[kmacleod]

there just keeping the game for them selfs so they can go up the rank and no one can ever catch up to them. evil little devs!!!!

Haha, last time I checked, they haven't even added this game to the Plus+ service yet, let alone set up the rankings; no worries about that ;)

[yournothere]

Haha, last time I checked, they haven't even added this game to the Plus+ service yet, let alone set up the rankings; no worries about that ;)

oh no need to worry about that. they have a new one!!!! its called +mofosXD

[Der-Kleine]

There should be a progress bar on their website to tell us how far they are with developing!

And to the price: I just hope they don't make it more than 4$ with in-app purchase! :mad:

[kmacleod]

There should be a progress bar on their website to tell us how far they are with developing!

And to the price: I just hope they don't make it more than 4$ with in-app purchase! :mad:

As long as the in-app purchases aren't something necessary to the game, like weapons and such, I don't mind them pricing the game between 5 and 10 dollars.

In the past, ngmoco has been good with delivering a lot of content on their major games. I'd be surprised if they blow it here, but you never know.

[zombie]

If the content is good I am willing to pay 5-10$ for such a game.

Zombie - New info on our ZombieSmash Blog : http://zombiesmash.gamedrs.com
Try to guess who our sound magician is and win a promo code when the game is released

[The Game Reaper]

If the content is good I am willing to pay 5-10$ for such a game.

Zombie - New info on our ZombieSmash Blog : http://zombiesmash.gamedrs.com
Try to guess who our sound magician is and win a promo code when the game is released
Nice blatent self-plug.

[zombie]

it was my opinion on a price for this game which look really cool. I loved the 1st unreal multiplayer game.

...Plus some advertising ;) If that is what you mean with self-plug (I do not know this phrase).


Zombie

[qasim]

There should be a progress bar on their website to tell us how far they are with developing!

And to the price: I just hope they don't make it more than 4$ with in-app purchase! :mad:

I read an article stating the in app purchases will be used for the armor of your character. It was something like that. But im almost positive you won't have to buy a rocket launcher. And expect this to be a premnium $9.99 title. Trust me, it will be. Based on all the graphics, controls, and gameplay, it won't be less then 10 bucks.

[qasim]

But still.....by now?? I first saw the tech demo clip back around january and THAT looked polished...that was around 6 months ago.

It wasn't Jan., it was March. That was one small map and a couple of characters to give a taste of the game. It's not like they had the 10 weapons and several pretty decent sized maps like now.

Trust me, when it's out, you'll be happy it took a while. And just be patient dude, be patient. I know how you feel. I'm waiting for this and Gangstar as well.

This feels like I'm waiting for Need For Speed all over again.

Btw, did anyone try iFPS online? That was terrible! The controls were okay after a while, but the maps were tiny, no one was EVER online, it was very laggy, and there was 2 weapons! Waste of $4 lol..

[NomaD]

this game was supposed to come out months ago.... oh well... i was kinda looking forward to playing this over the summer...