50 posts... SENIOR MEMBER?! NOOOO!!!

[pante]

so i have an idea...

it's really hard to call a senior member someone who wrote only 50 posts (this is the number when you become a SM, yep?).
maybe we will change it a bit? i don't know how... maybe 200 posts gives a SM title? or 500?

cause how can you call us, posters with over 1000 posts? GURU member? ;)

any ideas how can we solve this situation?

[Mew2468]

0 - Junior.
30 - Member.
100 - Senior.

I'm pretty sure.

[pante]

no.
there is only junior member and senior member.
and moderator and administrator of course... :)

EDIT: but 30 is probably the border.

[dannys95]

50 = Senior?

I would say 100 = Senior

[goblues11]

no.
there is only junior member and senior member.
and moderator and administrator of course... :)

EDIT: but 30 is probably the border.
Nope.

Mew 2468 is correct

[schooze]

Nope I have over 50 and I'm no Seinor Member despite having an account since October.

[pante]

ok, my bad.

but we should still change rules a bit. :)

[goblues11]

ok, my bad.

but we should still change rules a bit. :)
Yeah we should have additional titles for 500 posts 1,000 posts, etc. or make the requirements to become a senior member higher

[schooze]

ok, my bad.

but we should still change rules a bit. :)

Then I'll never be a Senior Member.

[pante]

Yeah we should have additional titles for 500 posts 1,000 posts, etc. or make the requirements to become a senior member higher

that's exactly what i mean.

[goblues11]

that's exactly what i mean.
Try to PM arn to ask him about it

[pante]

but first we have to think about a certain ideas.
will wait to see some +500 posters sharing their opinions.

[brewstermax]

but first we have to think about a certain ideas.
will wait to see some +500 posters sharing their opinions.

Well, maybe set it up differently. By going with the vBulletin defaults, it limits to 3. He can change how it is set up, and make it say iPhone amatuer, iPhone trainee, iPhone fan, iPhone master, etc. Just an example.

[Kamazar]

Karma, maybe? Have a karma of 20 and 250 posts, voila, you're a senior member!!! The system might get a little complex, though...

[Coldar]

Why go on the premise of how many posts you have? This actually means nothing within this forum. *Omg....downloading now* is not really a show of anything other than some interaction. I've seen newbies post over 1000 in a few days. So why have your post number reflect titles?

There can be more inventive ways to show member status:
Why not give out classifications to who's got the most of certain type of games? (Can show proof by posting their purchase history). Or who plays the most w/ high scores? Or how many games a person has total?...... Theres a lot of other different ways of getting a title than merely using ones number of posts........we can think BIGGER! (Of course this might be all too much for arn to deal with)

oh yea.....I'm not saying this cuz of my 100 or 200? something post. I don't look at it posts count much just the value of the post content.

[Myrobotwillneverdie]

Why go on the premise of how many posts you have? This actually means nothing within this forum. *Omg....downloading now* is not really a show of anything other than some interaction. I've seen newbies post over 1000 in a few days. So why have your post number reflect titles?

There can be more inventive ways to show member status:
Why not give out classifications to who's got the most of certain type of games? (Can show proof by posting their purchase history). Or who plays the most w/ high scores? Or how many games a person has total?...... Theres a lot of other different ways of getting a title than merely using ones number of posts........we can think BIGGER! (Of course this might be all too much for arn to deal with)

oh yea.....I'm not saying this cuz of my 100 or 200? something post. I don't look at it posts count much just the value of the post content.

What an enlightening take on things.

Am I missing something? These titles only seem to massage the egos of a few around here. I mean, who f#?&@n cares. Let's try to lose the constraints of a class system and just talk about games or whatever.

[1337brian]

Well I haven't had a problem as it has been, but I would be interested if arn was planning on changing it. What would you want like a ratings system? Or just some different member titles...?

[Coldar]

What an enlightening take on things.

Am I missing something? These titles only seem to massage the egos of a few around here. I mean, who f#?&@n cares. Let's try to lose the constraints of a class system and just talk about games or whatever.
Yea.......your missing the point of anyone can post their thought or ideas even if its not to your satisfaction. And you seemed to care enough to post something here. Of course with just 52 post maybe your trying to bloat it up with your unwanted rants. If you would have READ MY POST you have found I'm inclined to be impartial to post counts and simply suggesting other alternatives to a suggestion someone brought to the table.

[Fletch]

While reading through the first page of this I was thinking the exact same thing as you coldar. Post count is in no way an indicator of post quality...in fact, if anything a high post count would suggest that that person did a lot of spamming - not exactly a mark of prestige

[Myrobotwillneverdie]

Hmmm.... I'm not sure what your driving at. I was agreeing with you (which is why I used the word enlightening).
The point I was trying to make was, I ALSO agree that counts don't show if you actually contribute quality rather than quantity.
Wasn't trying to boost my count, seeing as I don't really care about numbers or titles:) sorry though that I tried to contribute to this discussion, seeing as you deemed my response "unwanted".

[Coldar]

Hmmm.... I'm not sure what your driving at. I was agreeing with you (which is why I used the word enlightening).
The point I was trying to make was, I ALSO agree that counts don't show if you actually contribute quality rather than quantity.
Wasn't trying to boost my count, seeing as I don't really care about numbers or titles:) sorry though that I tried to contribute to this discussion, seeing as you deemed my response "unwanted".
Sorry took it the wrong way, reading words can do that...........all is well on this end.....cool w/ you?

[Sainter]

Since there is so much discussion on the forums these days with a heap of new games I agree it should be boosted

My idea is also based on time as well as post count

0-100 Posts = Junior Member (No time on forums needed)
100-250 Posts = Member (Need to have had your account for two weeks)
250+ Posts = Senior Member (Need to have had your account for one month)

This will mean that all these spammers will hopefully be caught before the Senior Member rank or get bored at junior member and spam another site

It will make it alot harder to become into the 'Senior' Catergory

[Myrobotwillneverdie]

Haha. Yea, were cool.

That's one of the things that bothers me about the Internet. ( not being able to convey your meanings properly through text):)

[PointOfLight]

You can put a post count on it, you can put a time limit on it, or for that matter you could even put a count of the number of emoticons used on it, the labels still won't matter. The fact is I've seen people with less than 100 posts that have far more quality and usefulness to their postings than some people that have 1000+ posts. I agree with what someone mentioned about the Karma system. While it's still not perfect, at least it's someone else taking the effort to say that someone deserves the ranking they get. A ranking system based solely on the merits of the user being ranked will never be objective or have much meaning at all.

[Myrobotwillneverdie]

I agree with what someone mentioned about the Karma system. While it's still not perfect, at least it's someone else taking the effort to say that someone deserves the ranking they get. A ranking system based solely on the merits of the user being ranked will never be objective or have much meaning at all.

So, is this like the colored things next to our names?

[PointOfLight]

So, is this like the colored things next to our names?

I assume you're talking about the colored circle, and I don't actually know what that is. What I'm talking about (at least in the implementations that I've seen) is a system where there's a little thumbs up / thumbs down icon next to a person's name, and other users can click the appropriate icon to raise or lower a poster's karma.

[The Game Reaper]

Hey guys guess what? IT DOESN'T MATTER!
Why should we give immature n00bs another reason to spam the forums? Why???
The number of posts you have.... who cares?!

[b_o_h_i_c_a]

I assume you're talking about the colored circle, and I don't actually know what that is.

That little colored circle is an indicator which denotes if that member is currently on the forum or not. It changes color if they are on and it is grayed out if they are logged off:)

[Fazzy]

Why go on the premise of how many posts you have? This actually means nothing within this forum. *Omg....downloading now* is not really a show of anything other than some interaction. I've seen newbies post over 1000 in a few days. So why have your post number reflect titles?

There can be more inventive ways to show member status:
Why not give out classifications to who's got the most of certain type of games? (Can show proof by posting their purchase history). Or who plays the most w/ high scores? Or how many games a person has total?...... Theres a lot of other different ways of getting a title than merely using ones number of posts........we can think BIGGER! (Of course this might be all too much for arn to deal with)

oh yea.....I'm not saying this cuz of my 100 or 200? something post. I don't look at it posts count much just the value of the post content.

I am so with this guy.
I've been here longer than pretty much all of you yet I only have 300 posts. It's the quality of the posts you make, not the number of posts you have.

[PointOfLight]

That little colored circle is an indicator which denotes if that member is currently on the forum or not. It changes color if they are on and it is grayed out if they are logged off:)

Thanks! I always wondered what that was about.

[Big Albie]

Just throwing this out there, but how about we just get rid of the entire ranking system? I could care less if you've been here since the early days or have 2000 posts, and my guess is most people don't either. I come here because I enjoy talking about games, sharing ideas, and hearing what others have to offer. From what I can tell, this is becoming more complicated than it needs to be.

This forum is about games which are supposed to be fun, but honestly, there are times I think people take themselves way too seriously whether it's attacking newcomers or just being straight up bullies who think their view is more important than others.

In some ways, not having a ranking system is probably better than having any ranking system at all. If you're going to have one, then I think it goes back to why you need one and what do you hope accomplish with one.

[Myrobotwillneverdie]

Just throwing this out there, but how about we just get rid of the entire ranking system? I could care less if you've been here since the early days or have 2000 posts, and my guess is most people don't either. I come here because I enjoy talking about games, sharing ideas, and hearing what others have to offer. From what I can tell, this is becoming more complicated than it needs to be.

This forum is about games which are supposed to be fun, but honestly, there are times I think people take themselves way too seriously whether it's attacking newcomers or just being straight up bullies who think their view is more important than others.

In some ways, not having a ranking system is probably better than having any ranking system at all. If you're going to have one, then I think it goes back to why you need one and what do you hope accomplish with one.

My thoughts exactly!
I don't even really understand what the ranking system accomplishes, or, why people are so driven to rise in it.
I think most people on here long enough, can usually tell by the persons name and/or previous experience, if they generally contribute worthwhile info, or just spam.

[PointOfLight]

Just throwing this out there, but how about we just get rid of the entire ranking system? I could care less if you've been here since the early days or have 2000 posts, and my guess is most people don't either. I come here because I enjoy talking about games, sharing ideas, and hearing what others have to offer. From what I can tell, this is becoming more complicated than it needs to be.

This forum is about games which are supposed to be fun, but honestly, there are times I think people take themselves way too seriously whether it's attacking newcomers or just being straight up bullies who think their view is more important than others.

In some ways, not having a ranking system is probably better than having any ranking system at all. If you're going to have one, then I think it goes back to why you need one and what do you hope accomplish with one.

This actually makes a whole lot of sense, so I add my +1 to this sentiment. The only people I could see having labels under their names are people like moderators or developers, just so we know who they are. Not trying to single out developers, either, it would just be cool to know who's providing us the awesome software.

[The Game Reaper]

Just throwing this out there, but how about we just get rid of the entire ranking system? I could care less if you've been here since the early days or have 2000 posts, and my guess is most people don't either. I come here because I enjoy talking about games, sharing ideas, and hearing what others have to offer. From what I can tell, this is becoming more complicated than it needs to be.

This forum is about games which are supposed to be fun, but honestly, there are times I think people take themselves way too seriously whether it's attacking newcomers or just being straight up bullies who think their view is more important than others.

In some ways, not having a ranking system is probably better than having any ranking system at all. If you're going to have one, then I think it goes back to why you need one and what do you hope accomplish with one.

My sentiments exactly.

[SuperPaperSam]

now it is...

0-29 - Junior.
30-99 - Member.
100-999999999999 - Senior.

it should be...

0-99 - Junior Member.
100-199 - Member.
200-499 - Senior Member.
500-999 - Addiction.
1000-1999 - Obsession.
2000-5000 - Addict.

[The Game Reaper]

now it is...

0-29 - Junior.
30-99 - Member.
100-999999999999 - Senior.

it should be...

0-99 - Junior Member.
100-199 - Member.
200-499 - Senior Member.
500-999 - Addiction.
1000-1999 - Obsession.
2000-5000 - Addict.
No. We don't want noobs having some sort of goal or title that they spam to get there!

[CandyNJ66]

Just throwing this out there, but how about we just get rid of the entire ranking system? I could care less if you've been here since the early days or have 2000 posts, and my guess is most people don't either. I come here because I enjoy talking about games, sharing ideas, and hearing what others have to offer. From what I can tell, this is becoming more complicated than it needs to be.

This forum is about games which are supposed to be fun, but honestly, there are times I think people take themselves way too seriously whether it's attacking newcomers or just being straight up bullies who think their view is more important than others.

In some ways, not having a ranking system is probably better than having any ranking system at all. If you're going to have one, then I think it goes back to why you need one and what do you hope accomplish with one.

This does make sense. I have seen people bully newcomers or make fun of them which is totally out of line.

Anyway good post Albie!

[indyraider4]

It should be at least 1000, I think i reached 50 within my first week.

[kiwi91]

Ok, titles are fun :), but I agree with Albie that some people take them way to seriously.

[b_o_h_i_c_a]

Just throwing this out there, but how about we just get rid of the entire ranking system?

+1000

I'm tired of seeing people unfairly judged based on their post count. Just because one has a low post count does not make them in any way inferior or inept. Maybe they prefer not to talk (post) a lot. Maybe they joined at the same time as someone with 2,000+ posts but prefer to remain silent & just observe. It's like this on every forum on the internet. The senior members with thousands of posts develop some sort of entitlement complex and a haughty, holier-than-thou attitude. Post counts are meaningless. I vote to 86 the post count.

[ibelongintheforums]

i agree to scratch the post count and maybe reset it to zero posts after 2000
no one cares how many posts you have

and i know i have many posts, and i apologize for that but TA is so darn addicting

[Coldar]

Not sure of the reasoning for a post count to begin with.

[DaveMc99]

Not sure of the reasoning for a post count to begin with.

Is there a reason for it other than the title?
What can a senior member do that a junior member can't do here?

[Eli]

Nothing at all.

[Coldar]

Is there a reason for it other than the title?
What can a senior member do that a junior member can't do here?



No reason that I'm aware of other than maybe seeing if your a spammer at the get go.

Personally I think the post number under our sig is pretty redundant.

Think the reasoning for this thread is simply trying to differentiate from others and suggesting the use of the number of postings to do this. I suggested alternatives through gaming to achieve some type of badge/medal (what ever you want to call it). But its not for me personally. Just think the younger set want some bling to wear/show while on TA is all. At that age I can under stand where they might be coming from but using post counts is not a good idea and think people should work at things to achieve some type of status if that is where there mind set is at. I have problems visualizing this even getting off the ground personally. Think its something their sounding off to one another actually.
I seen no difference when I went from junior to senior status. Didn't really notice I was a senior till I read this thread actually.

[DaveMc99]

Another forum recently posted this message.. so it is possible to turn it off.

"We have long believed that post count is irrelevant, so I've just turned off the displaying of the post count by default.

If you really must see how many posts someone has, you can find it under the Thread Display Options section of the Edit Options page"

[Coldar]

Another forum recently posted this message.. so it is possible to turn it off.

"We have long believed that post count is irrelevant, so I've just turned off the displaying of the post count by default.

If you really must see how many posts someone has, you can find it under the Thread Display Options section of the Edit Options page"
Hmmmm......interesting, thank you.

[Big Albie]

I don't think we should implement any kind of ranking system be it by posts, karma, shoe size, whatever. The point of a forum is to bring people with similar interests together to discuss common interests. Because someone has more posts or joined a few months earlier does not make that person better or more knowledgeable than someone else. If anything, a karma system has the potential to create other problems because that can be manipulated just like #of postings.

[SuperPaperSam]

+1000

I'm tired of seeing people unfairly judged based on their post count. Just because one has a low post count does not make them in any way inferior or inept. Maybe they prefer not to talk (post) a lot. Maybe they joined at the same time as someone with 2,000+ posts but prefer to remain silent & just observe. It's like this on every forum on the internet. The senior members with thousands of posts develop some sort of entitlement complex and a haughty, holier-than-thou attitude. Post counts are meaningless. I vote to 86 the post count.

I think they should be looked up to more than someone that just chooses to site on the side lines. They are adding to the site and answering questions and contributing to the website.

[b_o_h_i_c_a]

Another forum recently posted this message.. so it is possible to turn it off.

"We have long believed that post count is irrelevant, so I've just turned off the displaying of the post count by default.

If you really must see how many posts someone has, you can find it under the Thread Display Options section of the Edit Options page"

Not all forums use the same software so unless the forum you are referring to is using vBulletin (like this forum) then it may or may not be possible to turn it off.

[Kamazar]

I don't think we should implement any kind of ranking system be it by posts, karma, shoe size, whatever. The point of a forum is to bring people with similar interests together to discuss common interests. Because someone has more posts or joined a few months earlier does not make that person better or more knowledgeable than someone else. If anything, a karma system has the potential to create other problems because that can be manipulated just like #of postings.

I guess leaving it as-is would be the best thing to do. I dunno, I kind of like the post count. Kinda like a battle scar! ... yeeeaaah, it's messed up psychology.

[SuperPaperSam]

Another forum recently posted this message.. so it is possible to turn it off.

"We have long believed that post count is irrelevant, so I've just turned off the displaying of the post count by default.

If you really must see how many posts someone has, you can find it under the Thread Display Options section of the Edit Options page"

yes you can turn it off i have gone through several forums for my site (manly for FAQ and suggestions) and i had the option on all of them (3) you can add custom names with post count.

[PointOfLight]

I don't think we should implement any kind of ranking system be it by posts, karma, shoe size, whatever. The point of a forum is to bring people with similar interests together to discuss common interests. Because someone has more posts or joined a few months earlier does not make that person better or more knowledgeable than someone else. If anything, a karma system has the potential to create other problems because that can be manipulated just like #of postings.

I agree. My thought behind karma was if we really needed something, that was better than post count. In the end, though, any ranking system can be manipulated unfairly. I also think turning off the number of posts is a great idea.

[Big Albie]

I guess leaving it as-is would be the best thing to do. I dunno, I kind of like the post count. Kinda like a battle scar! ... yeeeaaah, it's messed up psychology.

It's not messed up psychology...I understand where you're coming from. I think we're just making trying to make things way too complicated, and I don't see a point to it.

I agree. My thought behind karma was if we really needed something, that was better than post count. In the end, though, any ranking system can be manipulated unfairly. I also think turning off the number of posts is a great idea.

I hope you don't think I was criticizing you on the karma system because fundamentally, the idea is a good one. I just don't want this forum to open up another set of problems because it gets out of hand.

[PointOfLight]

I think they should be looked up to more than someone that just chooses to site on the side lines. They are adding to the site and answering questions and contributing to the website.

I disagree to an extent. Often times I see someone with a high post count write comments in a thread like "+1 to that" or "what they said" with no other text to support why they agree with the person they are supporting. Or, they'll make comments that have absolutely nothing to do with the topic being discussed. My first thought is not to look up to these people, but instead to wonder, "gee, are they just posting to boost their post count?" I think displaying the post count can have as much of a negative impact as a positive one. Not to mention that I've seen a lot of disdain from "senior" users to new board members, even though the senior members were once themselves new. It's hard to respect someone with a lot of posts if they dis every newcomer for making the same mistakes they probably made when they were first on the forum.

[PointOfLight]

I hope you don't think I was criticizing you on the karma system because fundamentally, the idea is a good one. I just don't want this forum to open up another set of problems because it gets out of hand.

Didn't think you were, but even if that was the case it didn't really bother me. The truth is that everyone is going to have their own opinion on this subject, and no matter what ultimately happens there are going to be people who aren't happy. Besides which, I wasn't the one who suggested karma in the first place, I just expanded on it :)

[Big Albie]

Didn't think you were, but even if that was the case it didn't really bother me. The truth is that everyone is going to have their own opinion on this subject, and no matter what ultimately happens there are going to be people who aren't happy. Besides which, I wasn't the one who suggested karma in the first place, I just expanded on it :)

That's the good thing about forums...opinions and plenty of them :rolleyes:

[coconutbowling]

I disagree to an extent. Often times I see someone with a high post count write comments in a thread like "+1 to that" or "what they said" with no other text to support why they agree with the person they are supporting. Or, they'll make comments that have absolutely nothing to do with the topic being discussed. My first thought is not to look up to these people, but instead to wonder, "gee, are they just posting to boost their post count?" I think displaying the post count can have as much of a negative impact as a positive one. Not to mention that I've seen a lot of disdain from "senior" users to new board members, even though the senior members were once themselves new. It's hard to respect someone with a lot of posts if they dis every newcomer for making the same mistakes they probably made when they were first on the forum.

+1
:eek: j/k

I completely understand what you mean. This goes back to the whole EDNG debate. I personally have no care for post count. The thing is though, it gives me a sort of senority. Think about it, would you rather give a promo code to a member with 500 posts, or 1? Having more posts show you are more dedicated to this site as well as iDevice gaming.

[PointOfLight]

+1
:eek: j/k

I completely understand what you mean. This goes back to the whole EDNG debate. I personally have no care for post count. The thing is though, it gives me a sort of senority. Think about it, would you rather give a promo code to a member with 500 posts, or 1? Having more posts show you are more dedicated to this site as well as iDevice gaming.

Not sure I agree with this argument, especially given that so many developers just slap promo codes on the first post of a thread or hold specialized contests to give the codes away. Neither of those require the recipient to have a high post count (unless the contest is for the person with the highest post count :) ) Again, as some on this thread have even pointed out, there are people who watch and absorb but don't contribute, and the reason they don't contribute is because they don't want to say something inane just to post to a thread. Personally, I think sometimes it takes more dedication to watch and hold your tongue than to speak recklessly.

As for dedication to iDevice gaming, that has absolutely nothing to do with posting to this or any other forum. I could drop out of TA right now (but if you think I will you're sick), and I'd be no less dedicated to my device. This is the best gaming platform I've ever had, and I'm not about to let the 250+ games that I've accumulated in the last 3 months go to waste.

I think in the end we need to leave the rankings just because removing them will make just as many people unhappy as it will make people happy. However, I personally will try to ignore them as much as possible. And if I ever get to the point where I finally develop a game, I will definitely feature it here, and will decide to give out my promo codes based on the quality of people's posts and their apparent desire to have the time of game I've created, not based on their number of posts. Oh, and of course my friends will get them first :D

Finally, I'd like to say (and I hope I'm not overstating this because I don't want to go back and read the entire thread again), that based on the quality of posts here I'd consider everyone in this thread a senior member, regardless of post count. It's nice to see a thread once in a while where everyone can have a mature conversation, even though they obviously don't all agree on the topic or how it should be handled. Kudos to everyone in this thread.

[Coldar]

I understand that some want an official status symbol from TA only. But a feature that is not utilized to promote oneself is our profile page. And another way is under our posts which some use for review links, current games played. I know that any newbie can do this too but just another alternative to promote themselves if inclined to do. Again....I'm not one to care about status but just thought to throw out some more suggestions if people really need to differentiate themselves from others. These aren't great alternatives but its something.

[GatorDeb]

Over 1000 = Awesome Member
Over 2000 = Too Much Time On Their Hands Member

[iphoneprogrammer]

Well you have to consider what a "post" is. Some may consider it one thing and others another thing.

[Coldar]

Well you have to consider what a "post" is. Some may consider it one thing and others another thing.
I'll agree........it's one thing or another!
(trying to be witty)

Welcome to TA btw..........

[PointOfLight]

Well you have to consider what a "post" is. Some may consider it one thing and others another thing.

Besides either the initial comments or a reply to a thread, what else would a "post" be?

[DaveMc99]

Besides either the initial comments or a reply to a thread, what else would a "post" be?

Spam..

[PointOfLight]

Spam..

Even if a reply is spam, it's still technically a "post". I guess I just didn't understand the relevance of his statement, unless he was trying to be funny.

[DaveMc99]

Even if a reply is spam, it's still technically a "post". I guess I just didn't understand the relevance of his statement, unless he was trying to be funny.

I took it to mean some people here think a post has to have "value" to people reading it and other people just type whatever they want to up their post count. Such as the Pocket God threads..

[PointOfLight]

I took it to mean some people here think a post has to have "value" to people reading it and other people just type whatever they want to up their post count. Such as the Pocket God threads..

Okay, now that I understand and agree with. The only problem is, who's to judge whether a post has "value" or not? Clearly some are obviously pointless (the rash of "+1" posts that frequent some threads is ridiculous), but there are other times that it might not be so clear. The original comment that I didn't get about what defines a post is a prime example of that, in fact.

[Big Albie]

There's no possible way to create criteria and then monitor what a post is. Why is it so hard for people to just let go of the titles and post numbers? I can understand titles for moderators and developers, but otherwise, the rest of this is really snowballing into something complicated and useless to the objectives of the forum in the first place.

[PointOfLight]

There's no possible way to create criteria and then monitor what a post is. Why is it so hard for people to just let go of the titles and post numbers? I can understand titles for moderators and developers, but otherwise, the rest of this is really snowballing into something complicated and useless to the objectives of the forum in the first place.

The problem is that it's an "out of sight, out of mind" sort of thing, and since they aren't out of sight yet...

Really, though, the irony of all this is that pretty much everyone in the thread is in agreement that the titles / post counts are pointless, so there's almost no point to the thread :)

[Big Albie]

The problem is that it's an "out of sight, out of mind" sort of thing, and since they aren't out of sight yet...

Really, though, the irony of all this is that pretty much everyone in the thread is in agreement that the titles / post counts are pointless, so there's almost no point to the thread :)

That's ironic isn't it? It's almost circles back to the "value of the post" and seeing as there's no point to this thread, that would make every post in this thread worthless. I'm some philosopher could have some fun with this. :rolleyes:

[DaveMc99]

Really, though, the irony of all this is that pretty much everyone in the thread is in agreement that the titles / post counts are pointless, so there's almost no point to the thread :)

I am curious Arn's view.. since it is possible to turn off the post count I wonder why he wants to keep it.

[Coldar]

I am curious Arn's view.. since it is possible to turn off the post count I wonder why he wants to keep it.
Well as some have stated that devs look at these when searching for people to give promo codes to. I'v been pm'd a few times and my post count did sway them to leave a promo code and I would be wary of a first/second time poster asking to trade promo codes, etc. So for this its helpful......but as for a seniority point system........not sound!

[PointOfLight]

That's ironic isn't it? It's almost circles back to the "value of the post" and seeing as there's no point to this thread, that would make every post in this thread worthless. I'm some philosopher could have some fun with this. :rolleyes:

Confucius say, "you can lead a member to Add Reply, but you can't make him think" :D

Well as some have stated that devs look at these when searching for people to give promo codes to. I'v been pm'd a few times and my post count did sway them to leave a promo code and I would be wary of a first/second time poster asking to trade promo codes, etc. So for this its helpful......but as for a seniority point system........not sound!

Can you have one without the other? Maybe leaving the post count but turning of the labeling system would at least be better...

[Coldar]

Can you have one without the other? Maybe leaving the post count but turning of the labeling system would at least be better...
Yes I do understand what you mean after reading my own post. We all already know that the post count doesn't mean a whole lot with membership WITHIN TA but does reflect some to devs. My thought never included removing it but as for a point system I think its worthless. As you said.....possibly leave it the way it is. Maybe Arn's been through all this already and came to the same conclusion.

[thisisme]

i like 100 to be senior and like something fr 500 and 1000's probly good

[goldglover411]

wow and i thought i had to get 1000

[yourofl10]

wow and i thought i had to get 1000

no if you get thousand you can join this:
http://forums.toucharcade.com/group.php?groupid=34

lol....

[goldglover411]

no if you get thousand you can join this:
http://forums.toucharcade.com/group.php?groupid=34

lol....

hahaha thats pretty fancy but i have a long way to go only something like 960 away :)

[yourofl10]

hahaha thats pretty fancy but i have a long way to go only something like 960 away :)

lol........
You will get there......

[CDubby94]

Hey bright idea how about absolutely no status symbol, hierarchy or member classes on TA? So what if devs look at the number of post counts? If you post high quality posts devs will get to know you eventually... Get rid of post counts, forget about "karma" or "reputation" and either build a name for yourself or don't based on the quality of posts other people think you create. People will only see your username and if a person thinks you are a contributor they'll listen to you based solely on what you say.

[amn624]

It would be far more logical to have a time criteria. Someone with 30 posts in the last six months is likely a far more valuable resource for the forum than someone who has made 50 posts, none of which occurred in the last six months.

I have many more than 50 posts and am not a Senior Member.

[le'deuche123]

How about no post count. I'm sure that would piss off all the little kids and dorks who think that it actually matters. Sorry but caring about becoming a senior member is retarded. And those that mock junior members and think they have more rights should be slapped in the face with a fresh trout......

[Big Albie]

We don't need post counts or titles.

[yourofl10]

It would be far more logical to have a time criteria. Someone with 30 posts in the last six months is likely a far more valuable resource for the forum than someone who has made 50 posts, none of which occurred in the last six months.

I have many more than 50 posts and am not a Senior Member.

The person with the 30 post might not check TA alot
wherther the guy with 50 does.

I think this should be based on post count and time spent on ta (OR when joined at TA)

BUT REALLY....... since there are post counts still in effect now does it physically hurt you? NO.
Soo just get over it....

(Yea I know its a little harsh sorry)

[le'deuche123]

The person with the 30 post might not check TA alot
wherther the guy with 50 does.

I think this should be based on post count and time spent on ta (OR when joined at TA)

BUT REALLY....... since there are post counts still in effect now does it physically hurt you? NO.
Soo just get over it....

(Yea I know its a little harsh sorry)

Ahhhh....here's one of those little kids now:rolleyes:



Seriously though....what good comes from post counts? If your on TA often, then you know who the regulars are. Plus some of us have lives other than gaming...

[Mythbuster]

We don't need post counts or titles.

Agree! Reputation you get with good postings and with spending help for other members!

[Big Albie]

Agree! Reputation you get with good postings and with spending help for other members!

The only ones who need titles are developers and mods. Otherwise, titles and post counts are unnecessary.

[PointOfLight]

How about no post count. I'm sure that would piss off all the little kids and dorks who think that it actually matters. Sorry but caring about becoming a senior member is retarded. And those that mock junior members and think they have more rights should be slapped in the face with a fresh trout......

Agreed, though I think a red herring would be more appropriate...

The person with the 30 post might not check TA alot
wherther the guy with 50 does.

I think this should be based on post count and time spent on ta (OR when joined at TA)

BUT REALLY....... since there are post counts still in effect now does it physically hurt you? NO.
Soo just get over it....

(Yea I know its a little harsh sorry)

I can see how 20 posts would make all the difference in the world :rolleyes: The whole point of this thread is to discuss whether post counts / ranks are really significant / needed as they are currently implemented, so I'm thinking that "get over it" is a pretty lame argument. Thanks for sharing, though.

Ahhhh....here's one of those little kids now:rolleyes:

Seriously though....what good comes from post counts? If your on TA often, then you know who the regulars are. Plus some of us have lives other than gaming...

Well said. Guess I should go find my life outside of gaming :)

[le'deuche123]

Agreed, though I think a red herring would be more appropriate...


A red herring would definitly be more appropriate for the situation at hand:D I will definitely have one on hand for the next fish slap I dole out:)

[s0mah]

A red herring would definitly be more appropriate for the situation at hand:D I will definitely have one on hand for the next fish slap I dole out:)

lol

you just keep those laying around?

[PointOfLight]

lol

you just keep those laying around?

Doesn't everyone? Mine's laying right next to the shrubbery...

[s0mah]

Doesn't everyone? Mine's laying right next to the shrubbery...

oic

The elderberry bushes, huh?

[PointOfLight]

oic

The elderberry bushes, huh?

Sorry, I don't play with hamsters :)

(Somehow I think we've both gone way off topic and proved some points here about post counts :rolleyes:)

[le'deuche123]

Sorry, I don't play with hamsters :)

(Somehow I think we've both gone way off topic and proved some points here about post counts :rolleyes:)

A fish slap for both of you then!:D

[HJJ]

MacRumors has titles and join dates, but no post counts. This seems appropriate. I don't get all the whining about post counts to begin with. I come here to discuss and learn about games -- not to lord over some subclass of random strangers who don't post often.

[s0mah]

MacRumors has titles and join dates, but no post counts. This seems appropriate. I don't get all the whining about post counts to begin with. I come here to discuss and learn about games -- not to lord over some subclass of random strangers who don't post often.

Get a bunch of computer geek 14 y/os together and they are bound to bitch about something.

If we were at yo!Touch Arcade raps, this thread would still exist. The difference being that everyone would be threatening everyone else with imaginary pistols, that peel imaginary caps.

[gekkota]

As a "senior" member--both in number of posts and date I joined this forum--I find this discussion rather amusing.

The person who first started this thread somehow managed to make over 1,400 posts in his two months of membership, and was bemoaning the fact that others who posted far less were allowed to be "senior" members. I have got to wonder whether anyone who can create that volume of postings in such a short period of time has a life outside of Touch Arcade.

I am one of the first members here, and I read the forums a few times a week, and contribute when I feel I have something to say that might be of interest to a few others. I've never viewed my participation in this or any other forum to be a competition for achieving the greatest number of posts. Quality, not quantity, should be the goal. It's unfortunate that so many people feel the need to inflate their post count with idiotic "LOL!" type comments.

Anyone who has spent two months "contributing" to a forum really shouldn't be a senior member regardless of how many useless posts they have made...

[yourofl10]

I agree at least 1000 post to be a senior member.

Well, that means I'm safe then :D
But 1000 seems to high 100 seems to low I say 300-500 or something like that

[blk04a4]

ya ive been noticing the requirements to achieve senior were pretty low, i would assume 1k at the least to reach that title, even more because this is the #1 iphone gaming site!

[HJJ]

ya ive been noticing the requirements to achieve senior were pretty low, i would assume 1k at the least to reach that title, even more because this is the #1 iphone gaming site!

Aww... you wouldn't be advocating such a thing if you knew how some people treat "junior members" around here. :(

[inferi22]

i think slightly over 600:hodapp if your veiwing this please excapt my group invite

[Kamazar]

i think slightly over 600:hodapp if your veiwing this please excapt my group invite

Nah, 1,000s good. The rest we can label "Pee-Wee" members :D

[Axl Lowe]

So this thread is about how the older members want recognition for being on a forum?

It's just a title. :p

[s0mah]

Here is a bold new suggestion:

Everyone with a 10+ post avg per day gets the title, 'Will die a lonely virgin'.

[gekkota]

Here is a bold new suggestion:

Everyone with a 10+ post avg per day gets the title, 'Will die a lonely virgin'.

I love that idea!
An even bolder suggestion: Give them their own "under-18" section of the forum. Maybe call it something like the "junior" forum. :D

That way, those of us who are interested in reading comments with substance :) don't have to wade through all the thousands and thousands of useless comments from kids in middle school... :mad:

[gekkota]

So this thread is about how the older members want recognition for being on a forum?

It's just a title. :p

It's actually more about how the forum has turned into a pissing contest for 14-year-old boys...they seem to think that the more posts they have, the higher their status here.
Sad. :( They need to get a life...

[Kamazar]

It's actually more about how the forum has turned into a pissing contest for 14-year-old boys...they seem to think that the more posts they have, the higher their status here.
Sad. :( They need to get a life...

Why, thanks for the insult, petty 100-post member.

[DarthPuma]

It's actually more about how the forum has turned into a pissing contest for 14-year-old boys...they seem to think that the more posts they have, the higher their status here.
Sad. :( They need to get a life...

Seriously. I seriously hate the vast majority of users on here. I wish there was a place as up to date on app store news as TA is that actually had intelligent posters.

[The Game Reaper]

I say we get rid of the entire post thing altogether and just have 'member' as everyone's identity.

[gekkota]

I say we get rid of the entire post thing altogether and just have 'member' as everyone's identity.

I think that simply eliminating displaying the number of posts would go a long way toward solving the problem. There would be less incentive for posting garbage if it wouldn't increase the visible post count. It's helpful to be able to see the "join date," and interesting to see the poster's location. I think that continuing to display "senior" or "junior" member is a good idea, but it should be based on something other than number of posts...

[le'deuche123]

I think that simply eliminating displaying the number of posts would go a long way toward solving the problem. There would be less incentive for posting garbage if it wouldn't increase the visible post count. It's helpful to be able to see the "join date," and interesting to see the poster's location. I think that continuing to display "senior" or "junior" member is a good idea, but it should be based on something other than number of posts...

Like....intelligence??


Or maybe age.... just kidding. Seriously though, I think that even a senior or junior tag, takes away from "discussing games". Personally I don't really care how long any of you have been here, whether I like you or not...

[Mythbuster]

It's actually more about how the forum has turned into a pissing contest for 14-year-old boys...they seem to think that the more posts they have, the higher their status here.
Sad. :( They need to get a life...

Yep!

Why, thanks for the insult, petty 100-post member.

Oh, seems that he hit you. ;)

[HJJ]

Like....intelligence??


Or maybe age.... just kidding. Seriously though, I think that even a senior or junior tag, takes away from "discussing games". Personally I don't really care how long any of you have been here, whether I like you or not...

In some forums, it's kind of fun to reach a "new level" in the post count hierarchy. I think perhaps the difference is usually that there are a whole bunch of different titles that people are able to buzz through pretty quickly, AND that the particular forums that I'm thinking of just happen to have strict moderation and mature members.

The fact that there are, what?, 3 titles makes it not very interesting or fun to reach a new level, and actually using the titles "junior member" and "senior member" make teenagers think these are, like... our jobs. Maybe we should just change the titles to things that will evoke less adolescent rooster crowing. Like maybe different fruits or perhaps crescendoing variations of "no life loser"? ;)

[gekkota]

In some forums, it's kind of fun to reach a "new level" in the post count hierarchy. I think perhaps the difference is usually that there are a whole bunch of different titles that people are able to buzz through pretty quickly, AND that the particular forums that I'm thinking of just happen to have strict moderation and mature members.

The fact that there are, what?, 3 titles makes it not very interesting or fun to reach a new level, and actually using the titles "junior member" and "senior member" make teenagers think these are, like... our jobs. Maybe we should just change the titles to things that will evoke less adolescent rooster crowing. Like maybe different fruits or perhaps crescendoing variations of "no life loser"? ;)

"Less adolescent rooster crowing."
That's it in a nutshell.
I love it! :)

[brewstermax]

In some forums, it's kind of fun to reach a "new level" in the post count hierarchy. I think perhaps the difference is usually that there are a whole bunch of different titles that people are able to buzz through pretty quickly, AND that the particular forums that I'm thinking of just happen to have strict moderation and mature members.

The fact that there are, what?, 3 titles makes it not very interesting or fun to reach a new level, and actually using the titles "junior member" and "senior member" make teenagers think these are, like... our jobs. Maybe we should just change the titles to things that will evoke less adolescent rooster crowing. Like maybe different fruits or perhaps crescendoing variations of "no life loser"? ;)

Me wants teh be de Apple.

[Noah]

I run a game via a forum, and I have titles that go up to 25,000 posts.

And I have people who have reached it.

100
300
750
1250
5000
7500
10000
12500
18000
25000

No one is considered a "senior" member unless they have at least 1250+ posts. I mean, really.

[gekkota]

I run a game via a forum, and I have titles that go up to 25,000 posts.

And I have people who have reached it.

100
300
750
1250
5000
7500
10000
12500
18000
25000

No one is considered a "senior" member unless they have at least 1250+ posts. I mean, really.

Wow...really??
There must be an awful lot of geeky 14-year-old boys hiding in their basements glued to their computer screens pumping out garbage posts...desperately trying to increase their fragile :( self-esteem by reaching greater and greater post counts!
Gee...sounds like such fun! :rolleyes:

[HJJ]

No one is considered a "senior" member unless they have at least 1250+ posts. I mean, really.
I think the problem here is because of the whole "junior"/"senior" thing, period. Do you think we'd ever see people writing, "Those damn Yellows, they never search!" or "Wahh, only Red members deserve promo codes!"?

I'm telling you guys, these teenagers actually think Arn has personally hired them to work here by bestowing them with the ever so prestigious title of "Senior Member".

"Senior! Like in high school! The Seniors are always the coolest!"

[Sierra275]

Oh. I had no idea why I was suddenly a senior member.

[indyraider4]

Wow...really??
There must be an awful lot of geeky 14-year-old boys hiding in their basements glued to their computer screens pumping out garbage posts...desperately trying to increase their fragile :( self-esteem by reaching greater and greater post counts!
Gee...sounds like such fun! :rolleyes:
agreed. That is a bad idea. It would lead only to spam. How about mods can delete posts and if something is spammy, it gets taken from the posts. or locked threads don't count towards your posts? then this might work

[Shokz]

Hmm, the forum i usually post at has over a million members so it's pretty big, i've been there for going on a couple of years and have a post count of around 3,000 (i think), and i have to say it's actually surprisingly easy to rack up your posts as the high post counters here would probably agree. There are a few more ranks there than here, and to be classed as Senior you have to have 500+ posts, which you feel you deserve once you get there.

The interesting thing is (as much as you mock it), you can usually guess how mature a person is by their status; you never see people who use poor grammar, ask stupid questions and talk in text speak as Senior Members or Afterdawn Addicts (now i've given away the name of the site :p), so i'd say the name structuring actually works, it does however not show your actual post count, just your rank, and it works pretty well.

You hardly see people spamming, but then again those that do so get warned and then banned if they persist (rules are generally pretty strict and people keep to them), the Mods there however are great and a know a few of them, they all seem to have post counts over 10k and they certainly do have lives outside the site.

[nightbeaver]

would this count as a worthless post?:D

[le'deuche123]

Hmm, the forum i usually post at has over a million members so it's pretty big, i've been there for going on a couple of years and have a post count of around 3,000 (i think), and i have to say it's actually surprisingly easy to rack up your posts as the high post counters here would probably agree. There are a few more ranks there than here, and to be classed as Senior you have to have 500+ posts, which you feel you deserve once you get there.

The interesting thing is (as much as you mock it), you can usually guess how mature a person is by their status; you never see people who use poor grammar, ask stupid questions and talk in text speak as Senior Members or Afterdawn Addicts (now i've given away the name of the site :p), so i'd say the name structuring actually works, it does however not show your actual post count, just your rank, and it works pretty well.

You hardly see people spamming, but then again those that do so get warned and then banned if they persist (rules are generally pretty strict and people keep to them), the Mods there however are great and a know a few of them, they all seem to have post counts over 10k and they certainly do have lives outside the site.

The whole point is people shouldn't be coming here to increase their post count. So eliminate the factors that attract that behavior. Like titles and post counts.

[Shokz]

would this count as a worthless post?:D

Yes, and so would this, glad we've clarified the situation ;)

[iFonePhanatic]

The whole point is people shouldn't be coming here to increase their post count. So eliminate the factors that attract that behavior. Like titles and post counts.

Yes, but somebody cannot get to, say 1,000 posts, by just posting nonsense on Toucharcade, so the system pretty much works now, although I do believe they should have higher ranks or make the "senior member" classification higher.

[Thorero]

Just popping in to add my 2 Pence.

Post counts are pretty much worthless in my opinion. Perhaps something that's used on other forums, a "Thanks" system would be better. Simply press a button if you find a users post usefull, and it adds to their "Thanks Count".

Then there's the option of just removing the whole "Member Rank" thing all together. Because as it is, it's not really that good an indicator of a member, heck, I've been here since November, and have just over a 100 posts. And, not trying to be offensive, other members have only been here a month or two, and have posts up in the 300s.