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K?!
04-05-2011, 03:01 PM
2000! reply;(

Jamie, could you delete Li and Lili's scores from the in game leaderboards? I really want to have a quick fleeting moment of fame before the scores are wiped.

CakeFuryzz
04-05-2011, 08:59 PM
Just cracked 3rd on kitchen hard

strat? :D

gwet17
04-05-2011, 09:19 PM
This game makes me sad... it needs to be more popular. The devs don't get enough love.:(

Foursaken_Media
04-06-2011, 02:06 AM
Update 2.0 has been submitted!! This means it shouldn't be long now... seriously, this update is so huge I feel like this is almost like a brand new game :D Must've logged over a hundred hours just in the past 2 weeks or so playtesting different combinations of heroes and turrets. The whole team is really excited to finally get this thing out there!


http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/1006/emailpic.png


Anyway, here is the short version for what is in this update...

- added 6 new heroes
- added 4 new levels
- added over 25 new enemies (bringing the total to over 50 unique enemies :eek:)
- added new equipment for the original 3 heroes
- added 3 new turrets
- Easy mode is now easier
- Hard mode rebalanced (quests are the primary way to earn money now, less late game enemy spam)
- balanced, fixed, and tweaked tons of other things



Here is the actual change-log... yes, its BIG!

- added IAP menu to purchase new heroes and content!
- added purchasable Hero Pack: "Locked n Loaded", which includes:
--- Worm Weapons & Demolitions Expert hero
--- Termite Builder hero
--- new Attic level
--- six new enemies
--- new Lookout "Scouter" Turret
- added purchasable Hero Pack: "Death from Above", which includes:
--- Ladybug Fencer hero
--- Fly Bandit hero
--- new Restaurant level
--- six new enemies
--- new Food Generator Turret
- added purchasable Hero Pack: "The Grandmasters", which includes:
--- Stick Bug Wizard hero
--- Grasshopper Monk hero
--- new Flower Garden level
--- six new enemies
--- new Mushroom Turret
- added FREE new Coliseum level: Picnic Battlefield
--- includes 4 new native themed enemies, unique to this level
- added FREE new Ant equipment: Piercing Bullets
- added FREE new Spider ability: Evade
- added FREE new Beetle equipment: Boomsticks (dual shotguns)
- fixed several in game crashes
- fixed a crash when trying to submit your score
- reset leader boards
- added power ups to Sink Arena
- can now shoot across the sink in the Sink Arena
- added more color and objects to Playroom level
- added a healing bonus to Spider's Night Hunter ability
- points earned from completing rounds is now capped after round 25, making quests much more important for high scores
- universally increased the speed of all heroes and enemies, slightly increasing the pace of the game
- balance: heroes are now cheaper to revive in Normal mode
- balance: heroes are now significantly cheaper to revive in Easy mode
- balance: slightly fewer enemies in Easy mode
- balance: much easier to earn gold in Easy mode
- balance: slightly fewer enemies in Hard mode to prevent enemy spam later in the game
- balance: less food and gold in Hard mode
- balance: increased the rate that quests are offered in Hard mode -- quests will now be the primary way to earn money in Hard
- balance: various tweaks to equipment and enemies
- balance: significantly increased the effectiveness of upgraded ForceField turrets
- balance: increased the effectiveness of upgraded Sniper Turrets
- balance: Zapper Turrets now deal more damage when upgraded
- balance: FireCracker Turrets are much more reliable in dealing damage and knock-back
- balance: decreased the damage of MG turrets vs larger targets

Fastbridge
04-06-2011, 03:42 AM
You got to be FCUKING KIDDING ME....This has just made my favortie game 100 times better. Jamie i'm not gay but I would kiss you right now.

eev
04-06-2011, 05:36 AM
sorry if it was already posted, but how much will cost IAPs? just to know which itunes card to buy next.

WCFields
04-06-2011, 06:18 AM
sorry if it was already posted, but how much will cost IAPs? just to know which itunes card to buy next.

I'm wondering the same, Jamie if I purchase everything at once (iap) what will that cost me? Just want to make sure I have enough $$$$ to purchase everything at once. Thanks

K?!
04-06-2011, 06:22 AM
2000! reply;(

Jamie, could you delete Li and Lili's scores from the in game leaderboards? I really want to have a quick fleeting moment of fame before the scores are wiped.

Also, could we get an introduction for the grasshopper?

PS. Attic is my favorite level yet.

GodSon
04-06-2011, 11:02 AM
Update 2.0 has been submitted!! This means it shouldn't be long now... seriously, this update is so huge I feel like this is almost like a brand new game :D Must've logged over a hundred hours just in the past 2 weeks or so playtesting different combinations of heroes and turrets. The whole team is really excited to finally get this thing out there!


http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/1006/emailpic.png


Anyway, here is the short version for what is in this update...

- added 6 new heroes
- added 4 new levels
- added over 25 new enemies (bringing the total to over 50 unique enemies :eek:)
- added new equipment for the original 3 heroes
- added 3 new turrets
- Easy mode is now easier
- Hard mode rebalanced (quests are the primary way to earn money now, less late game enemy spam)
- balanced, fixed, and tweaked tons of other things



Here is the actual change-log... yes, its BIG!

- added IAP menu to purchase new heroes and content!
- added purchasable Hero Pack: "Locked n Loaded", which includes:
--- Worm Weapons & Demolitions Expert hero
--- Termite Builder hero
--- new Attic level
--- six new enemies
--- new Lookout "Scouter" Turret
- added purchasable Hero Pack: "Death from Above", which includes:
--- Ladybug Fencer hero
--- Fly Bandit hero
--- new Restaurant level
--- six new enemies
--- new Food Generator Turret
- added purchasable Hero Pack: "The Grandmasters", which includes:
--- Stick Bug Wizard hero
--- Grasshopper Monk hero
--- new Flower Garden level
--- six new enemies
--- new Mushroom Turret
- added FREE new Coliseum level: Picnic Battlefield
--- includes 4 new native themed enemies, unique to this level
- added FREE new Ant equipment: Piercing Bullets
- added FREE new Spider ability: Evade
- added FREE new Beetle equipment: Boomsticks (dual shotguns)
- fixed several in game crashes
- fixed a crash when trying to submit your score
- reset leader boards
- added power ups to Sink Arena
- can now shoot across the sink in the Sink Arena
- added more color and objects to Playroom level
- added a healing bonus to Spider's Night Hunter ability
- points earned from completing rounds is now capped after round 25, making quests much more important for high scores
- universally increased the speed of all heroes and enemies, slightly increasing the pace of the game
- balance: heroes are now cheaper to revive in Normal mode
- balance: heroes are now significantly cheaper to revive in Easy mode
- balance: slightly fewer enemies in Easy mode
- balance: much easier to earn gold in Easy mode
- balance: slightly fewer enemies in Hard mode to prevent enemy spam later in the game
- balance: less food and gold in Hard mode
- balance: increased the rate that quests are offered in Hard mode -- quests will now be the primary way to earn money in Hard
- balance: various tweaks to equipment and enemies
- balance: significantly increased the effectiveness of upgraded ForceField turrets
- balance: increased the effectiveness of upgraded Sniper Turrets
- balance: Zapper Turrets now deal more damage when upgraded
- balance: FireCracker Turrets are much more reliable in dealing damage and knock-back
- balance: decreased the damage of MG turrets vs larger targets

*Mouth Drops* :eek: Now THATS an update! :D

This is going to be a blessing to my iPad 2. I'm not even mad Chuck Mantis and Bruce Flea didn't make it in the update(*crosses fingers for a future IAP pack*) but I as well would like to hear more on Grasshopper Monk. Man I hope sales go through the ROOF because you guys more than deserve it with the amount of love poured into this game. Thanks! ;)


@eev IIRC the IAPs will 99cent per pack(3 packs total).

paul.hendricks
04-06-2011, 11:17 AM
My God, the awesome game just gets better. Guess I'd better start warming up my thumbs!

LordGek
04-06-2011, 11:22 AM
I can only hope there is some discounted "3 in 1" IAP option!

WCFields
04-06-2011, 11:29 AM
I can only hope there is some discounted "3 in 1" IAP option!

I doubt it

WCFields
04-06-2011, 11:34 AM
*Mouth Drops* :eek: Now THATS an update! :D

This is going to be a blessing to my iPad 2. I'm not even mad Chuck Mantis and Bruce Flea made the update(*crosses fingers for a future IAP pack*) but I as well would like to hear more on Grasshopper Monk. Man I hope sales go through the ROOF because you guys more than deserve it with the amount of love poured into this game. Thanks! ;)


@eev IIRC the IAPs will 99cent per pack(3 packs total).

I hope your correct godson, considering what each iap pack contains that's a damn good bargain. Hope it doesn't take long to come out.

Foursaken_Media
04-06-2011, 12:29 PM
Thanks everyone :D

Correct there are 3 IAPs, each for $.99... we actually were going to include an "all in 1" option, but there were a lot of complications under the hood that made this a surprisingly difficult/awkward option with a lot of loopholes. As it stands, even though we hope people will want all packs :p, you will definitely be getting tons of content with just one hero pack, so you can certainly pace yourself if you want to go that route.

Also, I will give a heads up... we are going to be running a contest soon which will give an opportunity to unlock a brand new hero for free :) This new hero will be custom made just for this contest (and thus not available any other way -- ever), and will be awesome... so again, this update is not the end of our support for Bug Heroes, I promise you that :D In fact, I'm just finishing up modeling a new Adventure level for the free next update!

P.S. Grasshopper details coming soon.

lord timmie9
04-06-2011, 12:49 PM
Does that mean only 1 person can ever play that hero

Foursaken_Media
04-06-2011, 12:51 PM
Haha, no (that would be the worst contest ever :p)... its a universal "contest" where everyone will be pitching in for the same goal, so no one is competing against each other, they are actually all helping each other. We'll release more details in the following weeks.

WCFields
04-06-2011, 12:54 PM
Any idea when the update will be out?

Foursaken_Media
04-06-2011, 12:57 PM
Its looking like the average over the past month is about 7 days... so hopefully not more then a week!

Drakeer Melkhor
04-06-2011, 12:57 PM
To people who already dont know about Bug Heroes, I have to say this game is a MUST HAVE if you like dual stick shooters!!!

I'm buying all the IAP for sure! :p

Dyelon
04-06-2011, 01:23 PM
Haha, no (that would be the worst contest ever :p)... its a universal "contest" where everyone will be pitching in for the same goal, so no one is competing against each other, they are actually all helping each other. We'll release more details in the following weeks.

Oh.

My.


God.


that is so effing sick! that sounds like an amazing idea...I will definitely be a part of it! bug heroes has taken more time away from my xbox (mvc3, cod black ops) and PC (league of legends) than anything else and as a result I've been playing it nonstop.

When do you plan on doing the contest?

Osujxu
04-06-2011, 02:26 PM
holy crap thats an update.

Oxynidus
04-06-2011, 03:11 PM
Man o man. It's amazing. Can't wait!

You shouldn't tell us when you submit an update, so we wouldn't go crazy waiting for the update. It should be more like: Surprise! The update is up! :D

BigRhinoX
04-06-2011, 03:26 PM
This is one of the first game I bought for my Itouch4 but I haven't played too much yet. It's really cool and seems like I'd have more fun once I figure out exactly what I'm doing and how to level up (I have to find that tips thread) but I can say for sure that I'll be picking up all 3 packs, despite my current suckiness.

I seem to get my ass completely handed to me around wave 7. I can't seem to hold bugs off worth **** and I don't make money too fast (and when I do, I'm too worried I'll buy something not necessary for the moment). I've got to do some serious bug training before these new packs are released.

GodSon
04-06-2011, 03:34 PM
This is one of the first game I bought for my Itouch4 but I haven't played too much yet. It's really cool and seems like I'd have more fun once I figure out exactly what I'm doing and how to level up (I have to find that tips thread) but I can say for sure that I'll be picking up all 3 packs, despite my current suckiness.

I seem to get my ass completely handed to me around wave 7. I can't seem to hold bugs off worth **** and I don't make money too fast (and when I do, I'm too worried I'll buy something not necessary for the moment). I've got to do some serious bug training before these new packs are released.

This thread may help a bit: http://forums.toucharcade.com/showthread.php?t=79560

Also a good place to train is the Stump in Coliseum mode and just test out what skills fit your playing style. The Insectopedia is also a really good place for reference so you can study enemy weaknesses and see what skills/heroes work best on them so when you play in adventure mode, you'll know what character(s) to switch to when the time is right. You'll get better as you adapt and understand.

Hope that helps a little.

iJay
04-06-2011, 03:37 PM
@BigRhinoX

here you go: Bug Heroes Survival Guide and Strategies (http://forums.toucharcade.com/showthread.php?t=79560)
and maybe even better yet, Oxynidus' guide (http://forums.toucharcade.com/showthread.php?p=1571770&post1571770).

and if your are getting beaten in an early round, some quick advice: put as much money as you can into machine gun turrets. a bug bomb turret can also be good if you have unlocked it. and if armor ants and/or maching gun fleas are hurting you, pick up a sniper turret.

C.Hannum
04-06-2011, 03:53 PM
put as much money as you can into machine gun turrets.
... at least until the update comes out and balances them compared to other turrets :p

For now, though, yes, good no-brainer advice.

-----

I'm going to be checking the app store and these forums compulsively until the update hits :D

Foursaken_Media
04-06-2011, 04:12 PM
Hey BigRhinox! In addition to the awesome strategy guides some of our user have made, we've also got a bunch of changes in this update that should help you out a ton (and ALL "noobie" players for that matter :p)...

Easy mode for one has been made MUCH easier: heroes will be extremely cheap to revive (225 gold for a level 0 hero, to only 825 for a level 20 hero), meaning that making mistakes won't matter as much bc you should easily be able to buy back dead heroes. You will also earn much more gold in Easy (it was actually a huge oversight on our part... currently in Easy you fight less enemies, but you don't earn any extra gold, meaning that in fact you earn LESS gold overall in easy >_< This was also inadvertently making Hard easier then its supposed to be, since there are more enemies you could earn a crap load of gold very quickly). And finally there are a bit less enemies you'll have to deal with in Easy.

Overall, Easy should be closer to that mode that you just play to have fun or to last a really long time. I'm sure some scores and rounds will be quite insane once the update goes live, but I figure the Easy leader boards really aren't that important... Easy is just for those people trying to figure stuff out and have fun.

Rain1dog
04-07-2011, 10:14 AM
Hurry

asjhust
04-07-2011, 11:29 AM
cool game~

undeadcow
04-07-2011, 11:33 AM
Will the new enemies show up across levels or are each level specific? For example, in the kitchen level is it possible that all 50 enemies appear if you play long enough or will it be limited to only kitchen specific villans?

Osmiral
04-07-2011, 11:34 AM
Can't wait for the update!!! Hurry up apple!!!

Zephro
04-07-2011, 12:24 PM
Can we have a "All 3 hero packs" for $2.00? :V

Osmiral
04-07-2011, 12:32 PM
I'm sorry but people already asking for "all three for cheaper" really annoys me, I know maybe not everybody has a whole three dollars but come on stop trying to cheat the devs out of all there hard work.

Rain1dog
04-07-2011, 01:59 PM
How will we know when updTe is live? If we do a search of bug heroes will the updates just show up?

C.Hannum
04-07-2011, 02:30 PM
I'm sorry but people already asking for "all three for cheaper" really annoys meThis, and you should have stopped there ;)

... I know maybe not everybody has a whole three dollarsNo, not everybody has a whole three dollars, heck, heck there are people in the world struggling to feed entire households on less than that amount a day, but the blunt truth is that if you somehow have an iOS device that you didn't rob/steal/find, you could pay the $3, period, no excuses, no hardship stories accepted here: You have an iOS device (so barring you being in the rob/steal/find category, we know you're not the equivalent of a subsistence farmer trying to feed your entire household on <$3/day) and you have access to this forum (which means you have regular internet access in a reasonably developed corner of the world) so, at worst, you could skip a single lunch (and many of us would probably benefit from that every now and again anyhow) and have enough for all three packs.

Besides, the initial game for $1.99 was already a huge steal, spending another $3 for 6 new heroes and 3 new areas is just bigger larceny, as the first set of content is already worth $5, so getting all the extra content should be making people very happy and very grateful, not into the equivalent of panhandlers in Calcutta.

I'll be buying all three packs as soon as they're live, and if they turn around and make them free the next day, I won't be complaining :)

Oxynidus
04-07-2011, 03:24 PM
Well, there are some reasonable excuses here and there. I was unable to purchase anything that's not free because of where I live until I created a US iTunes account and started getting friends to order iTunes gift cards for me from various websites. So my iTunes credit is precious, but Bug Heroes is worth every penny, even if I have to pay $3 for each pack.

Rain1dog
04-07-2011, 07:00 PM
I hate to ask the question again... But how will the updates show up? Will I have to search for the updates using search? Or will it show up automatically in my updates as normal updates do? I'm confused as it will be a pay update(perfectly fine with me- great game), I just want to know how to seek these updates out, thank you.

GodSon
04-07-2011, 07:55 PM
I hate to ask the question again... But how will the updates show up? Will I have to search for the updates using search? Or will it show up automatically in my updates as normal updates do? I'm confused as it will be a pay update(perfectly fine with me- great game), I just want to know how to seek these updates out, thank you.

It will show up like a normal update implementing the new content along with the bug fixes, tweaks, etc...

Rain1dog
04-07-2011, 07:59 PM
Thank you.

Nekcik
04-07-2011, 08:15 PM
This, and you should have stopped there ;)

No, not everybody has a whole three dollars, heck, heck there are people in the world struggling to feed entire households on less than that amount a day, but the blunt truth is that if you somehow have an iOS device that you didn't rob/steal/find, you could pay the $3, period, no excuses, no hardship stories accepted here: You have an iOS device (so barring you being in the rob/steal/find category, we know you're not the equivalent of a subsistence farmer trying to feed your entire household on <$3/day) and you have access to this forum (which means you have regular internet access in a reasonably developed corner of the world) so, at worst, you could skip a single lunch (and many of us would probably benefit from that every now and again anyhow) and have enough for all three packs.

Besides, the initial game for $1.99 was already a huge steal, spending another $3 for 6 new heroes and 3 new areas is just bigger larceny, as the first set of content is already worth $5, so getting all the extra content should be making people very happy and very grateful, not into the equivalent of panhandlers in Calcutta.

I'll be buying all three packs as soon as they're live, and if they turn around and make them free the next day, I won't be complaining :)

I couldn't have agreed with you more. Well said and well put.. Stop being cheap people. Stop thinking everything needs to be .99 or Free.

K?!
04-07-2011, 08:19 PM
Thank you.

Every update for an app must be free to download; but upon downloading it, it could provide nothing except an option to but IAP. Of course, Bug Heroes provides a lot more than that in this update.

Rain1dog
04-07-2011, 08:49 PM
Is there a certain time that apple cuts off for the night? Or could the update cone at 12am CST? Or do updates going via apples approval status only during normal business hours?

K?!
04-07-2011, 09:12 PM
Apple approves updates at all hours of the night.

But when they release them is fairly random. Sometimes at 11 PM US east, sometimes at 6 AM, at midnight, ect.

Oxynidus
04-08-2011, 05:38 AM
Bwahahahaha! I won the first spot in tree stump using Beetle no less! :cool:

K?!
04-08-2011, 06:17 AM
Bwahahahaha! I won the first spot in tree stump using Beetle no less! :cool:

How on earth...

Rain1dog
04-08-2011, 07:04 AM
You took my spot at one, Rain =( . Very nice using bettle nonetheless. Watch this update take a full week.

Foursaken_Media
04-08-2011, 03:09 PM
Thanks everyone, we really appreciate all the support! :D Its been 3 days now so hopefully not too much longer.

And nice work Oxynidus! I knew the Coliseum boards would soon be overtaken by a Beetle or Spider :)

Oh yeah, forgot about Grasshopper intro :p

http://img857.imageshack.us/img857/8696/hoppersmall.png

So, the final hero and probably one of my favorites is the Grasshopper Monk! Using a variety of AOE kicks and punches that knock opponents very far, Hopper is best used to take care of hordes of smaller bugs. However, his attacks are fast and moderately powerful, so he is much better suited to be a slightly more "all around" hero then Beetle for ex. He also has medium fast walking speed, and medium health. His abilities are a good mix between combat and support. One such support ability is his "Self Sacrifice" ability, which will reduce Hopper to 50 HPs in return for healing all other heroes the amount of HPs taken from him. Another awesome ability is a his "Inspire" ability, which temporarily doubles the damage of all melee heroes' damage, making him particularly deadly in an all melee battle party.

Also, while he is not durable per se, he is still very survivable, due to a variety of passive healing skills and abilities, instead of using armor and sheer health to stay alive like Beetle.

lord timmie9
04-08-2011, 03:29 PM
Does this mean it's in review or still waiting for review

ninjackid
04-08-2011, 03:30 PM
AWESOME!!! Can't wait for the update!

So, now that the IAP is almost upon us, how does one actually buy and IAP and how does it work, like does you use your iTunes account credit and info to buy it? I have never ever used IAP so I'm totally new to it. lol.

Oxynidus
04-08-2011, 03:35 PM
And nice work Oxynidus! I knew the Coliseum boards would soon be overtaken by a Beetle or Spider :)Yeah, I gave it my best shot with Spider, but unfortunately I think it's virtually impossible because of Spider's lack of ability to defend himself against large groups of bugs, big and small, especially towards the end with all the giant spiders, queen ants, scorpions and elephant snails; she gets crushed easily, and doesn't have the endurance of Beetle and can't keep her distance like Ant, and the arena becomes too crowded for her mobility to be of any use. Once the giant spiders begin to spawn, that's it for her; I could not think of a way to dispatch the spiders before you get hopelessly bogged down.

Foursaken_Media
04-08-2011, 03:51 PM
AWESOME!!! Can't wait for the update!

So, now that the IAP is almost upon us, how does one actually buy and IAP and how does it work, like does you use your iTunes account credit and info to buy it? I have never ever used IAP so I'm totally new to it. lol.

IAP is essentially exactly like buying a game from the app store. On the main menu (of Bug Heroes) you'll see a new "store" button, which you go into and you'll see pics and descriptions of the 3 Hero Packs. After that you just click which one you want to buy and it will pop up a message confirming that you really want to buy the IAP. It will draw from your iTunes account and credit just like it would if you were buying a regular game... Its really as simple as that!

Yeah, I gave it my best shot with Spider, but unfortunately I think it's virtually impossible because of Spider's lack of ability to defend himself against large groups of bugs, big and small, especially towards the end with all the giant spiders, queen ants, scorpions and elephant snails; she gets crushed easily, and doesn't have the endurance of Beetle and can't keep her distance like Ant, and the arena becomes too crowded for her mobility to be of any use. Once the giant spiders begin to spawn, that's it for her; I could not think of a way to dispatch the spiders before you get hopelessly bogged down.

Poison Cloud :p

Though, Spider should be more competitive in this next update... her new ability is "evade" which gives her a passive chance to dodge melee attacks, and Night Hunter now gives her a way to heal (+15 HPs per enemy killed). It should go a long way towards helping her survivability.

Rain1dog
04-08-2011, 04:02 PM
Seriously, I cant wait any longer. I keep checking the update in apps every few minutes. But the death rally thread had the dev say it's been about a week so far so his update should be out any moment. By that logic we have 4 more days to go, blah.... I wish it was a 24 Hr thing. This is one of the best games I've played ever in my life, it keeps me coming back for more. Just after months of endless play with every alt and every skill working my way to number one... I'm ready for all three packs to give me months more of gaming goodness....

Please apple hurry hurry hurry

ninjackid
04-08-2011, 04:05 PM
IAP is essentially exactly like buying a game from the app store. On the main menu (of Bug Heroes) you'll see a new "store" button, which you go into and you'll see pics and descriptions of the 3 Hero Packs. After that you just click which one you want to buy and it will pop up a message confirming that you really want to buy the IAP. It will draw from your iTunes account and credit just like it would if you were buying a regular game... Its really as simple as that!

Whoa really? That simple? For some reason I always thought it was more complicated. :D

So what happens if I delete the app and re install it on my iPod at a later time? Will the IAPs still be there or will I have to re-download them?

Foursaken_Media
04-08-2011, 04:15 PM
Seriously, I cant wait any longer. I keep checking the update in apps every few minutes. But the death rally thread had the dev say it's been about a week so far so his update should be out any moment. By that logic we have 4 more days to go, blah.... I wish it was a 24 Hr thing. This is one of the best games I've played ever in my life, it keeps me coming back for more. Just after months of endless play with every alt and every skill working my way to number one... I'm ready for all three packs to give me months more of gaming goodness....

Please apple hurry hurry hurry
:D


Whoa really? That simple? For some reason I always thought it was more complicated. :D

So what happens if I delete the app and re install it on my iPod at a later time? Will the IAPs still be there or will I have to re-download them?

We have a "Restore" button that you can simply click to bring back all previously purchased IAP... so no matter what you only have to buy them once. Also all of the IAP data is actually built into the game, so when you buy the IAP you're simply unlocking it, you're not actually downloading anything... so it shouldn't take more then a few seconds to get all the IAP :)

I am fairly certain that you can also restore the IAP on multiple devices as well, as long as they are all using the same iTunes account.

gospel9
04-08-2011, 07:11 PM
Since there's no iPad thread I am posting this here...

Will we be able to enlarge the field of view or zoom out for the iPad version in th future? The game would look so much better that way IMO.

K?!
04-08-2011, 07:58 PM
That would give iPad players an unfair advantage over iPhone players. Being able to see more is a huge advantage. You can use goggles to zoom out on Ant, though.

DaviddesJ
04-08-2011, 07:59 PM
That would give iPad players an unfair advantage over iPhone players.

But we're playing the game for fun, not to win some prize.

Nekcik
04-08-2011, 08:23 PM
But we're playing the game for fun, not to win some prize.

Yes, However scores are submitted and submitting a high score because you have an advantage over someone using an iphone is not fair thus that is why you can't have a zoom out feature.

DaviddesJ
04-08-2011, 08:26 PM
Yes, However scores are submitted and submitting a high score because you have an advantage over someone using an iphone is not fair thus that is why you can't have a zoom out feature.

Talk about the tail wagging the dog. You really think that policing who gets what "high scores" is more important than making the game more fun? Really??

If this is of earthshattering importance to many people (which I seriously doubt) you could have different high score charts.

Nekcik
04-08-2011, 08:43 PM
Talk about the tail wagging the dog. You really think that policing who gets what "high scores" is more important than making the game more fun? Really??

If this is of earthshattering importance to many people (which I seriously doubt) you could have different high score charts.

The game is built on balances, and adding a zoom out would make the game unbalanced.(scores for leader boards is just one of them) If you add a zoom out option the whole game would probably have to be redone and would take the fun out of the game because it is designed so that you don't know what is out further then your character can see. This is why Ant's Goggles is helpful but not overpowering to the game's dynamics.

C.Hannum
04-08-2011, 09:04 PM
If this is of earthshattering importance to many people (which I seriously doubt) you could have different high score charts.Well, while it's not that important to me, you must have just discovered the internets if you honestly have doubt that it's downright life and death for a lot more people than make me comfortable.

You can put out a solitaire game aimed at 5 y.o.s and there will be a vocal push for it to have game center, leader boards, and achievements within days along with 1 star app store reviews because it lacks these NECESSARY FEATURES!!!

Whether it is for you, for some, competing on leader boards is a MAJOR draw to games.

That said, as was pointed out, you really know nothing about this game with what you're asking. The limited visual range is very much a part of the game design.

DaviddesJ
04-08-2011, 09:09 PM
You can put out a solitaire game aimed at 5 y.o.s and there will be a vocal push for it to have game center, leader boards, and achievements within days along with 1 star app store reviews because it lacks these NECESSARY FEATURES!!!

Personally, I really like these features too! I find it very useful, in a game that is about trying to score high, to be able to see what scores other people are getting.

But it totally doesn't matter if it's "fair". That's entirely different. So what if some people find the game easier to play on their devices than others? There are no prizes at stake. The fact that people are comparing their scores, doesn't have to mean that they are competing. People like Game Center even if they are never going to be higher than #17438 on any of the charts.

That said, as was pointed out, you really know nothing about this game with what you're asking. The limited visual range is very much a part of the game design.

Your crystal ball is misfiring today. Like gospel9, I'm quite familiar with the game. But if people want to argue they like the game better when you can't zoom out, I will have a different preference but they are entitled to disagree. But that is quite different from the actual argument that was made above, about high scores.

K?!
04-08-2011, 10:55 PM
Personally, I really like these features too! I find it very useful, in a game that is about trying to score high, to be able to see what scores other people are getting.And when I see these people's highscores, I don't want to think "they're on an iPad. Maybe that's why they got that." And I don't want people thinking that about my scores, either.

But it totally doesn't matter if it's "fair".Uh huh.

That's entirely different. So what if some people find the game easier to play on their devices than others? There are no prizes at stake. The fact that people are comparing their scores, doesn't have to mean that they are competing. People like Game Center even if they are never going to be higher than #17438 on any of the charts.With many if not most of the toucharcade members, we can consistently score extremly high. Game Center is about comparing and competing, but if you know some people have an unfair advantage, you can't accuraetly compare.

Your crystal ball is misfiring today. Like gospel9, I'm quite familiar with the game. But if people want to argue they like the game better when you can't zoom out, I will have a different preference but they are entitled to disagree. But that is quite different from the actual argument that was made above, about high scores.

But there's another reason, and it's that without challenge, the game is boring. It would make it easier and it wouldn't be as rewarding. Plus many things are based on a relatively standard level of zoom; the rat hole, in the kitchen, for instance.

gospel9
04-08-2011, 11:07 PM
Yeah a zoom out mode would give the player an competitive advantage, but who cares seriously... If the devs really care about it so much they can let us have the option to disable scores while playing zoomed out. I compete my score with my friends (mostly my gf) not global leaderboards. Or even better, an iPad leaderbowrd.

It is just that I feel like it is such a waste of screen space, the game is actually more fun playing on my iPhone 4 since my phone is so much lighter, but it is basically th exact same view.

Ant's Goggles can give even more view in this mode.

DaviddesJ
04-08-2011, 11:08 PM
And when I see these people's highscores, I don't want to think "they're on an iPad. Maybe that's why they got that." And I don't want people thinking that about my scores, either.

I feel sorry for you.

Dyelon
04-08-2011, 11:25 PM
I feel sorry for you.

Oh don't make it like you're so cool and he's so dorky...leaderboards exist for LEGITIMATE competitions' sake. subsequently, what's the point of said leaderboard rankings if certain players have a significantly larger field of view of the game in question?

you can belittle his sentiment for being "nerdy" but you can't deny the essence of his claim: the legitimacy of the leaderboards is diminished upon giving only certain players the option of a better visual perspective of the playfield.

Foursaken_Media
04-08-2011, 11:31 PM
Come on guys, this isn't something that should be argued over :p

I mean, I definitely agree that for some people, competing can actually be part of the fun of a game. This is why lots of competitive multi player games exist... some people just like to compete... I must admit (depending on the game), competition can certainly be part of the fun for me personally. This goes way beyond video games mind you. Sports is a prime example of an activity that is one part fun, just bc its fun -- but also part fun because of the competition (heck, when I play basketball I don't care if I win or lose, but for me it is still fun to play in a fair competition).

Anyway, just fyi we actually tossed around the idea of having a default zoom further out for iPad before we released the update, but for a number of reasons we decided against it...

For one, balance (ranged vs melee balance, equipment usage, etc), 2, technical limitations... for this game the camera really was not designed to be zoomed way out during the isometric view angle -- goggles is probably even stretching it to the limits as it is right now. 3 we would need to create a whole new set of leaderboards (the problem is that the # of leaderboards a game can have is limited by gamecenter, meaning we can't just make as many as we want), and 4, while you could argue that the extra view distance would be "more fun", I could make the argument that being able to see the characters larger and better on the iPad screen (currently) is a positive in its own right.


Anyway, please, lets not argue :p Maybe this good news will bring the thread back on topic... a few minutes ago the update moved to "In Review"!!!

DaviddesJ
04-08-2011, 11:38 PM
Oh don't make it like you're so cool and he's so dorky...leaderboards exist for LEGITIMATE competitions' sake. subsequently, what's the point of said leaderboard rankings if certain players have a significantly larger field of view of the game in question?

I already answered that. For 99% of players, the purpose of leaderboards is to track their scores and to see how they compare to (not compete with) other players. You are always going to have a few players who are egotistical about being high on the boards and who really care about whether some other player has some advantage or disadvantage relative to them. But those are always going to be a very, very small fraction of players, especially in a popular game. That's just not the purpose---if it were only for the people at the very top of the leaderboards, then it wouldn't be worth even including.

Dyelon
04-08-2011, 11:38 PM
that's awesome!...here's to hoping i get to play this within 24 hrs!

Nekcik
04-08-2011, 11:39 PM
Anyway, please, lets not argue :p Maybe this good news will bring the thread back on topic... a few minutes ago the update moved to "In Review"!!!

F yeah! I was praying for an impossible/possible weekend release (well not really praying) But was hoping I wouldn't have to wait till after the weekend. Hopefully a few hours till it comes out.
Odd that it seems the good games go into review on the weekends.

Rain1dog
04-08-2011, 11:42 PM
In review, nice!

GodSon
04-09-2011, 12:00 AM
In Review so soon(someone at Apple loves us). SWEET!!! :D

gospel9
04-09-2011, 12:08 AM
Come on guys, this isn't something that should be argued over :p

I mean, I definitely agree that for some people, competing can actually be part of the fun of a game. This is why lots of competitive multi player games exist... some people just like to compete... I must admit (depending on the game), competition can certainly be part of the fun for me personally. This goes way beyond video games mind you. Sports is a prime example of an activity that is one part fun, just bc its fun -- but also part fun because of the competition (heck, when I play basketball I don't care if I win or lose, but for me it is still fun to play in a fair competition).

Anyway, just fyi we actually tossed around the idea of having a default zoom further out for iPad before we released the update, but for a number of reasons we decided against it...

For one, balance (ranged vs melee balance, equipment usage, etc), 2, technical limitations... for this game the camera really was not designed to be zoomed way out during the isometric view angle -- goggles is probably even stretching it to the limits as it is right now. 3 we would need to create a whole new set of leaderboards (the problem is that the # of leaderboards a game can have is limited by gamecenter, meaning we can't just make as many as we want), and 4, while you could argue that the extra view distance would be "more fun", I could make the argument that being able to see the characters larger and better on the iPad screen (currently) is a positive in its own right.


Anyway, please, lets not argue :p Maybe this good news will bring the thread back on topic... a few minutes ago the update moved to "In Review"!!!


I totally understand where you are coming from with these points. But if say, Gameloft decided to release StarFront collision for the iPad, it would probably be zoomed out all the way, despite giving the iPad players significant advantages.

As far as balance on melee vs range is concerned, why would it be imbalanced? I don't know how far the Ant's guns can travel but couldn't you simply limit its range down in the first place? I don't see if it would be such a big deal for a larger field of view as far as character balance is concerned.

Anyway... I would pay $1.99 for the zoom out option if I was given the choice. Just saying ;) Even if it means to be put myself outside of the leaderboards. Even a Fog of War kind of view would have made the game a lot more interesting on the big screen.

Dyelon
04-09-2011, 12:49 AM
is it possible it could be approved during these wee hours?? does that ever happen?

Dyelon
04-09-2011, 01:59 AM
makes me feel like a total loser.

Fastbridge
04-09-2011, 09:55 AM
This update is absolutely incredible. I can't wait. CMON APPLE!!!!!!

Oxynidus
04-09-2011, 10:41 AM
You know, we could also add cheat codes to make the game more fun. Better yet, allow us to modify all the numbers in the game so we could enjoy some crazy fun, and allow us to customize their looks with absolutely no limitation (I've always wanted a pink Beetle). Also, why not let us play with the cat or the robot and kick some serious insect ass. Yeah, I'm up for some wacky, wacky fun.

Rain1dog
04-09-2011, 10:42 AM
You know, we could also add cheat codes to make the game more fun. Better yet, allow us to modify all the numbers in the game so we could enjoy some crazy fun, and allow us to customize their looks with absolutely no limitation (I've always wanted a pink Beetle). Also, why not let us play with the cat or the robot and kick some serious insect ass. Yeah, I'm up for some wacky, wacky fun.
This game WOULD be perfect for a "flip" mode so to speak, I 2nd some whacky attributes.

K?!
04-09-2011, 11:24 AM
You know, we could also add cheat codes to make the game more fun. Better yet, allow us to modify all the numbers in the game so we could enjoy some crazy fun, and allow us to customize their looks with absolutely no limitation (I've always wanted a pink Beetle). Also, why not let us play with the cat or the robot and kick some serious insect ass. Yeah, I'm up for some wacky, wacky fun.

Or how 'bout an incredibly powerful platypus that can destroy everything in it's path...

But I actually, reallly like your idea for cheat codes. As long as a message saying "enabling cheat codes will remove your ability to post to the leaderboards or earn achievements", and we get a screen where we can enable or disable cheats we've entered, I think it's great.

J-kid
04-09-2011, 11:31 AM
Or how 'bout an incredibly powerful platypus that can destroy everything in it's path...

But I actually, reallly like your idea for cheat codes. As long as a message saying "enabling cheat codes will remove your ability to post to the leaderboards or earn achievements", and we get a screen where we can enable or disable cheats we've entered, I think it's great.
First Idea besides customizing characters, CarryAnt. Now what this would do is let you carry ant on another characters back and like the shoulder turret for ant shoot at things, but also would allow you to use his abilities without having to swap to him.

Oxynidus
04-09-2011, 12:40 PM
I was being kinda sarcastic, but anyway, two questions:

Q: Does Fors4ken Media have to give Apple the green light to publish the app once it's out of review?

Q: Does it being in review mean that it could be out any minute now?

Rain1dog
04-09-2011, 12:56 PM
I like the idea, myself.

lord timmie9
04-09-2011, 01:00 PM
I was being kinda sarcastic, but anyway, two questions:

Q: Does Fors4ken Media have to give Apple the green light to publish the app once it's out of review?

it depends you can set a date or publish as soon as reviewed (i think)

Q: Does it being in review mean that it could be out any minute now?

dunno how long reviewing ussuall takes

K?!
04-09-2011, 01:54 PM
I was being kinda sarcastic, but anyway, two questions:

Q: Does Fors4ken Media have to give Apple the green light to publish the app once it's out of review?

Q: Does it being in review mean that it could be out any minute now?

The dev could set it up so that either option is chosen.

Oxynidus
04-09-2011, 01:57 PM
You know, I think the reason Bug Heroes stays so long in review is because the dudes at Apple get carried away testing the game and lose track of time.

Rain1dog
04-09-2011, 02:03 PM
Hopefully one stops for a breathe and reads these forums!! Stop bullguarding the fun!!! =D

I can't wait to see a red ballon over my apps icon.

Historically it's a one week process? Of course I'm on the outside not knowing what the process curtails, but is a week the norm? It's accepted?

Space miner is my personal all time favorite on this device. That engine was so fluid, everything about that game was pure polish. Space miner m-printed itself in my brain, I had a lot of fun with that game. Mario esque but for IOS.

Oxynidus
04-09-2011, 02:42 PM
Historically it's a one week process? Of course I'm on the outside not knowing what the process curtails, but is a week the norm? It's accepted?It's in review, meaning it could pop up any moment.

Space miner is my personal all time favorite on this device. That engine was so fluid, everything about that game was pure polish. Space miner m-printed itself in my brain, I had a lot of fun with that game. Mario esque but for IOS.Right! Mine too, almost. It's second to Bug Heroes, but it's really a wonderful game.

Rain1dog
04-09-2011, 03:01 PM
Yeah, bug Heroes is a game that came at a perfect time in my life. A very very warmed and welcome distraction. It's a game that just feels right on so many levels. You know this game was a labor of love, not a cash cow. This is pure genius.

gospel9
04-09-2011, 03:29 PM
Here is another suggestion for the iPad version; let us adjust the position or offset of the Dpad like Death Rally; I find the default location to be a tad too low when it could have been better if it is more "centered". Holding the iPad as if you were watching a movie and position your thumb on the screen in the most natural position — that is where the Dpad should be at.

DaviddesJ
04-09-2011, 03:38 PM
Here is another suggestion for the iPad version; let us adjust the position or offset of the Dpad like Death Rally; I find the default location to be a tad too low when it could have been better if it is more "centered". Holding the iPad as if you were watching a movie and position your thumb on the screen in the most natural position — that is where the Dpad should be at.

But, if they let you put the Dpad in a more convenient location, we need different leaderboards. Otherwise, it's unfair for you to compete against people who aren't using that advantage.

Dyelon
04-09-2011, 03:42 PM
jeeeeeeeeeeeebus.....how long does "reviewing" an update take?!

Rain1dog
04-09-2011, 03:44 PM
I know... I hope it comes sometime today... I'm very much looking forward to a few hours of newness. New styles, combinations... New mobs... I'm eager... Very eager.

Oxynidus
04-09-2011, 03:45 PM
But, if they let you put the Dpad in a more convenient location, we need different leaderboards. Otherwise, it's unfair for you to compete against people who aren't using that advantage.It's not an advantage.

DaviddesJ
04-09-2011, 03:51 PM
It's not an advantage.

Huh? That wasn't the response I was expecting. Gospel9 said it would be easier for him to play with the Dpad in a different position? Are you really saying that he's wrong, that you know what is the best position for him? Really??

Oxynidus
04-09-2011, 03:54 PM
Huh? That wasn't the response I was expecting. Gospel9 said it would be easier for him to play with the Dpad in a different position? Are you really saying that he's wrong, that you know what is the best position for him? Really??If anyone can adjust the controls to their liking, then no one has an advantage over the other.

gospel9
04-09-2011, 03:55 PM
Here is another suggestion for the iPad version; let us adjust the position or offset of the Dpad like Death Rally; I find the default location to be a tad too low when it could have been better if it is more "centered". Holding the iPad as if you were watching a movie and position your thumb on the screen in the most natural position — that is where the Dpad should be at.


This is what I mean, like this:

http://img859.imageshack.us/img859/117/photonq.jpg

As opposed to:

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/4158/photocn.jpg

Rain1dog
04-09-2011, 03:58 PM
Ok, I can now picture that. With a bigger device it feels more natural with the load balanced in your hand. It works out fine with phone type size but I could imagine feels not just right with a larger display in hand.

K?!
04-09-2011, 04:27 PM
I really don't want to get into this but...

The joysticks are placed in the most comfortable place for the iPhone. It's only natural that they should be in the most comfortable place on the iPad.

Oxynidus
04-09-2011, 04:29 PM
But the most comfortable place for the iPad is a matter of preference. I like it the way it is, but apparently not everyone does.

K?!
04-09-2011, 04:50 PM
But the most comfortable place for the iPad is a matter of preference. I like it the way it is, but apparently not everyone does.

I was agreeing that the controls should be customizable for the iPad, but not that the game should be zoomed out.

Rain1dog
04-09-2011, 05:01 PM
I'm losing hope...

Dyelon
04-09-2011, 05:15 PM
Seriously...its been like 14hrs since its been in review...

is that normal?

im studying for Anatomy and Physiology midterm but constantly checking for the update....please Odin deliver the stick wizard unto me!

Rain1dog
04-09-2011, 07:14 PM
Anyone else like me where there are only a handful of games that just get it right for your style of play that keep you coming back for more? It calls you... Not, I'm bored and want to play...hrmm battleship to pass the time so to speak?

Versago
04-09-2011, 07:21 PM
This wait is killing me!!! Please release it soon apple :(.

K?!
04-09-2011, 07:47 PM
You know, it's entirely possible that the game has already been approved, but Foursaken Media is waiting to release it. Games rarely sit in review for more than an hour and BH has been there for 20 hours already. That is, if it hasn't already been approved and is waiting for release.*puts on tin foil hat*

Rain1dog
04-09-2011, 08:00 PM
What's the logic is holding back? This is a mainstream game. Thus is a "system seller" and it's not as if Xmas is like two days away(thank god-am I the only one who prefers spring, summer over winterish times, blah).

Dyelon
04-09-2011, 08:21 PM
You know, it's entirely possible that the game has already been approved, but Foursaken Media is waiting to release it. Games rarely sit in review for more than an hour and BH has been there for 20 hours already. That is, if it hasn't already been approved and is waiting for release.*puts on tin foil hat*

Yeah, thats what I'm starting to think. Foursaken hasn't posted on here since the review anouncement....its a pretty HUMONGOUS patch, maybe there's some giant bugs (pun intended) in the code

3 new heroes, 3 levels, 25 enemies, new skills...could cause alot of problems

buuuuuuuuuuttt....i hope thats not the case. lol

Nekcik
04-09-2011, 08:28 PM
There is that possibility that a reviewer could have put a game up for review and went home for the weekend or a day off and will get back to it when they clock back in. I've seen a couple games go into review on a Friday and not come out till Monday afternoon. Let's stay positive and hope that the last reason it's not out yet is due to a bug that a reviewer found and the reason FM hasn't said anything is because they are working hard to fix and re-submit.

Versago
04-09-2011, 08:29 PM
Yeah, thats what I'm starting to think. Foursaken hasn't posted on here since the review anouncement....its a pretty HUMONGOUS patch, maybe there's some giant bugs (pun intended) in the code

3 new heroes, 3 levels, 25 enemies, new skills...could cause alot of problems

buuuuuuuuuuttt....i hope thats not the case. lol
It's 6 new heroes and 4 new levels :) 2 heros per package.

Rain1dog
04-09-2011, 08:37 PM
Whatever the reason I'm behind these gals/guys... They have been very kind and informative... I can't waaaiiittt to play more of their offerings..

At least I'm watching star wars for the first time in life at the age of 35. I knew there was a reason for not watching it all these times before, heh...

Versago
04-09-2011, 08:40 PM
Lol, I never watched star wars either :p.

Nekcik
04-09-2011, 08:42 PM
Whatever the reason I'm behind these gals/guys... They have been very kind and informative... I can't waaaiiittt to play more of their offerings..

At least I'm watching star wars for the first time in life at the age of 35. I knew there was a reason for not watching it all these times before, heh...

It was a movie you had to see in it's day when it came out. The movie effects were ahead of its time. Not so much compared to todays technology.

Dyelon
04-09-2011, 08:44 PM
It's 6 new heroes and 4 new levels :) 2 heros per package.

hahah indeed good sir...yes indeed

im lowballing them on account of my inexplicable ANGERRRR lol




this game is effing crack.

Dyelon
04-09-2011, 08:47 PM
It was a movie you had to see in it's day when it came out. The movie effects were ahead of its time. Not so much compared to todays technology.

I feel like thats a given. you have to have respect for star wars in that when youre watching it youre viewing a film that transformed pop culture forever...

it just sucks that Lucas gave into the probable hundreds of millions of dollar offer to make 3 movies he evidently didn't have much passion for.

revenge of the sith was awesome...the other 2 were borderline terrible =-(

K?!
04-09-2011, 09:03 PM
There is that possibility that a reviewer could have put a game up for review and went home for the weekend or a day off and will get back to it when they clock back in. I've seen a couple games go into review on a Friday and not come out till Monday afternoon. Let's stay positive and hope that the last reason it's not out yet is due to a bug that a reviewer found and the reason FM hasn't said anything is because they are working hard to fix and re-submit.

Actually, that would be the worst. If an app gets rejected for a bug, it goes to the end of the queue, not immediately to the same reviewer.

Versago
04-09-2011, 09:07 PM
soo, when the update comes out which 3 heroes are you guys going to try out first? I would probably try the worm, mantis, and grasshopper :D.

Dyelon
04-09-2011, 09:11 PM
soo, when the update comes out which 3 heroes are you guys going to try out first? I would probably try the worm, mantis, and grasshopper :D.

WIZARD, bandit, and ladybug

1) i love mage characters

2) i always have extra $$$ during the rounds i DIE like 20-25...so i like bandits option of using money for skills that im sure are very powerful

3) the ladybug has an ability where she can parry enemy attacks with good timing according to foursaken...that sounds fun!

Rain1dog
04-09-2011, 09:27 PM
I haven't ready a drop of the new content... I like to unravel the game my own pace and discover it... I don't form any ideas that way... Clean slate so to speak

K?!
04-09-2011, 09:29 PM
Stickbug, Grasshopper, worm.

Does anyone else see the heroes' strength being ranked on an easiness/hardness scale? Like the weakest heroes are the simplest to use but the strongest taking the most skill.


Termite
Stickbug
Ant
Fly
Beetle
Grasshopper
Worm
Ladybug
Spider

Dyelon
04-09-2011, 10:01 PM
Stickbug, Grasshopper, worm.

Does anyone else see the heroes' strength being ranked on an easiness/hardness scale? Like the weakest heroes are the simplest to use but the strongest taking the most skill.


Termite
Stickbug
Ant
Beetle
Grasshopper
Worm
Ladybug
Spider


you think Ant is really strong or really weak?

if you say strong i disagree...on hard mode i get really annoyed with him, i cant wait to replace him

K?!
04-09-2011, 10:13 PM
Termite is the weakest and Spider is the strongest.

iJay
04-09-2011, 10:19 PM
uhh, I think beetle is easily in the top 3...

GodSon
04-09-2011, 10:28 PM
As soon as the update is out, I'll probably start out with Worm 1st. I plan on playing a WHOLE lot of Coliseum with all the new characters before I even touch the Adventure stages so I can't choose which 3 just yet; I want to get comfortable with them all before I dive in(not sure why I'm going to run with Worm 1st either :p). I really hope the review didn't get kicked.

*Goes back to playing World of Goo HD in the mean-time*

DaviddesJ
04-09-2011, 10:34 PM
I don't get it. How are people ranking the heroes by strength when they aren't even out yet?

K?!
04-09-2011, 10:38 PM
Because I have descriptions of the heroes from Jamie plus some insider knowledge of their abilities...

But think; is timing an explosion of Assassin Bomb to kill a Bumblebee easier or harder than shooting at him with Ant? Does it kill the bumblebee faster? And that's how I ranked Worm.

Dyelon
04-09-2011, 10:41 PM
ughhh wtf!

this is taking forever....def not a good sign

foursakens not posting anything either, theyre usually on the board everyday

K?!
04-09-2011, 11:15 PM
Foursaken Media must be withholding the update. There is no way it's been "in review" for 24 hours. And the fact that they browse these boards but don't post anything is only more evident that they won't talk about this.

They probably have legitimate reasons for this, like getting their advertising campaign up and running. This is probably their last chance to make a lot of sales and they won't squander it because the game was reviewed early.

Dyelon
04-09-2011, 11:18 PM
Foursaken Media must be withholding the update. There is no way it's been "in review" for 24 hours. And the fact that they browse these boards but don't post anything is only more evident that they won't talk about this.

They probably have legitimate reasons for this, like getting their advertising campaign up and running. This is probably their last chance to make a lot of sales and they won't squander it because the game was reviewed early.

well thought out speculation....seems very plausible.

it just really effing sucks. haha

DaviddesJ
04-09-2011, 11:46 PM
Foursaken Media must be withholding the update. There is no way it's been "in review" for 24 hours.

I don't understand your conclusion. Why can't it have been turned down?

ultimo
04-09-2011, 11:52 PM
It's a game that just feels right on so many levels. You know this game was a labor of love, not a cash cow. I could not put it in words better than that myself.

Dyelon
04-09-2011, 11:54 PM
I don't understand your conclusion. Why can't it have been turned down?

he's probably leaving that possibility out assuming the update wouldn't get rejected by apple (rare? especially with a skilled crew like foursaken)

Rain1dog
04-10-2011, 04:53 AM
Well day 6 is upon us.

Fastbridge
04-10-2011, 06:42 AM
I know what happened guys. They finally finished and went to celebrate and get drunk and laid. Let them enjoy themselves. There will be plenty of bug heroes soon enough.

But Jaime, I am getting anxious;)

CrisisInNeed
04-10-2011, 06:54 AM
Add me on gamecenter - CrisisInNeed

Versago
04-10-2011, 08:19 AM
Maybe they are holding it back so more people would rush and buy it when the update comes out.

Oxynidus
04-10-2011, 10:45 AM
Fours4ken Media has joined the dark side. :mad:

korl666
04-10-2011, 10:58 AM
Omg this looks soooo fun!

lord timmie9
04-10-2011, 11:08 AM
maybe apple reviewers just have free weekends

K?!
04-10-2011, 11:13 AM
Fours4ken Media has joined the dark side. :mad:

Yep. It's not a review problem or else they would have told us. But Jamie's keeping quiet so we know something is up.

Rain1dog
04-10-2011, 11:19 AM
I'd bet sometime tonight early am wecwill see it released.

iJay
04-10-2011, 11:52 AM
while we are waiting...
how do you think grasshopper's primary weapon is upgraded? being that it is his arms and legs...

K?!
04-10-2011, 12:14 PM
while we are waiting...
how do you think grasshopper's primary weapon is upgraded? being that it is his arms and legs...

You didn't here it from me...

Fists, Knuckles, Boxing Gloves

Foursaken_Connor
04-10-2011, 12:40 PM
Seeing as Jamie isn't on top of this, just wanted to say no, we are not holding it back. It will be released right when it is done with review, and at this point it is still "In Review". Not sure why it's taking so long, but I figure it's got to be the thing mentioned earlier -- it gets marked in review going into the weekend and won't make it out until Monday.

Just thought I should put the speculation to rest!

K?!
04-10-2011, 12:51 PM
Seeing as Jamie isn't on top of this, just wanted to say no, we are not holding it back. It will be released right when it is done with review, and at this point it is still "In Review". Not sure why it's taking so long, but I figure it's got to be the thing mentioned earlier -- it gets marked in review going into the weekend and won't make it out until Monday.

Just thought I should put the speculation to rest!

Thank you!

Oxynidus
04-10-2011, 12:56 PM
I think the reviewers just got addicted to Bug Heroes and won't let it go.

DtheGOPkiller
04-10-2011, 03:45 PM
I have been really busy with kids and coaching their teams and haven't had time to play bug heroes for a couple weeks or look at the forum and I peek in and holy crap! This update is insane! I cannot wait to purchase every single pack the second it's available. These are the most deticated Devs I have ever seen. Man I hope it drops soon.

Rain1dog
04-10-2011, 07:02 PM
Well, hopefully, tomorrow on the 7th day EARLY we will get to have our gaming goodness. It's been well worth the wait... This update will easily provide months of entertainment and for 3 dollars that's a steal considering the production quality of their titles. Woooot less than 12 hours to go hopefully.

TotallyImba
04-11-2011, 02:42 AM
I have to say this game is incredible, downloaded it this morning and I can't put it down. I have played tons of games from publishers like Gameloft and this is just so much better.

My favourite hero is the spider, can't wait for the update.

ChuckMe
04-11-2011, 04:32 AM
Does apple review apps on weekends? This could explain the wait, as i can imagine their job isnt that hard :D

Oxynidus
04-11-2011, 05:03 AM
Q: How long did it take you to decide whether you wanted a kitty or a puppy in Yard? :D

ultimo
04-11-2011, 07:27 AM
Q: How long did it take you to decide whether you wanted a kitty or a puppy in Yard? :D
surely not as long as it took you to ask!
anyways.... men like cats, most men!? :D

see what a delay in the game update can do to PpL?
PpL who own the leaderboards of such a gem!

explosive
04-11-2011, 08:00 AM
If I have worked this out correctly, there will now be 28 different combinations for each hero. :eek:

Beetle-Spider-Ant
Beetle-Spider-Worm

etc...

Fastbridge
04-11-2011, 08:34 AM
Cmon apple.

Oxynidus
04-11-2011, 08:51 AM
Someone tell Apple that I'm going to be kicking a kitten for every hour they take from this moment on.

Rain1dog
04-11-2011, 09:12 AM
Is the review station PST, please don't be in Cali... =D

Rain1dog
04-11-2011, 11:20 AM
/e taps fingers =D

GodSon
04-11-2011, 11:29 AM
Is the review station PST, please don't be in Cali... =D

Iirc yes we are talking PST, Cupertino, Ca.

Rain1dog
04-11-2011, 11:52 AM
Dam time zones

J-kid
04-11-2011, 12:30 PM
Lets get a group of people to put Friday on an infinite loop on the PA system over at apple till the update is released

TotallyImba
04-11-2011, 12:59 PM
Its 19:00 here in the UK, I think the update will come out after 12:00 tonight.

Jellowpy
04-11-2011, 01:10 PM
2:09AM here in the Philippines been waiting for this for the last couple of days =( even telling myself that its a good thing that it wont come bef my finals (cisco) last weekend but now its already Tuesday morning here and still no update =(

Still patiently waiting insta buy 3 IAP for me.. :(

Rain1dog
04-11-2011, 01:53 PM
It's the 7th day correct? We should see it released today if everything goes a ok! I was hoping early in the day but hey the later the better!

DtheGOPkiller
04-11-2011, 02:20 PM
Man this update needs to hurry! I have been up for two days slamming Monster energy drinks and I think I have had like two six packs. I am starting to see things and I haven't even took a bathroom break. I keep checking the app store every other second and my hands are numb so I am having to use my nose. Please hurry!
But seriously I hope this update drops soon because it sounds like the update of the century and expands content by double.

Versago
04-11-2011, 02:27 PM
Why is this update taking sooo long? :( wish it comes out soon!

Jellowpy
04-11-2011, 02:36 PM
Everytime this thread goes up in the 1st page i alway think that update have been released and a massive influx of jubilation is being celebrated in the thread but sadly its the opposite =(


:(:(:(:(:(:(:(

Fastbridge
04-11-2011, 02:37 PM
I hope there's not a problem. Ughhhh

Oxynidus
04-11-2011, 02:41 PM
Imagine if there's some major bug (hawhaw) that caused Apple to reject the update? :eek: I think we should prepare to raid Apple's headquarters just in case. I'm going in with Beetle.

K?!
04-11-2011, 02:54 PM
If I have worked this out correctly, there will now be 28 different combinations for each hero. :eek:

Beetle-Spider-Ant
Beetle-Spider-Worm

etc...

I don't think so. It's even more!

9*8*7=504.

504/9=56.

Rain1dog
04-11-2011, 02:55 PM
I feel ya... This is the FIRST time on a mobile platform gaming wise I'm stoked this much, since the release of Zelda64 back in the day. This game to me is a platform seller... Maybe Apple should look at FM as rare was to the big N in the day.

Dyelon
04-11-2011, 03:01 PM
Why is this update taking sooo long? :( wish it comes out soon!

WTF its 4pm EST already!! Can it come out after 5pm?? This is ridiculous!

K?!
04-11-2011, 03:05 PM
What if the update doesn't exist, and Foursaken Media has been fooling us the whole time? Bear in mind, they have been caught multiple times for pay per reviews, (http://forums.toucharcade.com/showpost.php?p=1539471&postcount=662) and they might just be making this whole thing up.

redribbon
04-11-2011, 03:24 PM
^^what?r u serious?been waiting 4 this update like months ago...

Dyelon
04-11-2011, 03:24 PM
What if the update doesn't exist, and Foursaken Media has been fooling us the whole time? Bear in mind, they have been caught multiple times for pay per reviews, (http://forums.toucharcade.com/showpost.php?p=1539471&postcount=662) and they might just be making this whole thing up.

Hm interesting...

i was wondering why there wasnt a trailer for the new update or anything like that

iJay
04-11-2011, 03:30 PM
^^what?r u serious?been waiting 4 this update like months ago...
no, he is not serious.

undeadcow
04-11-2011, 04:08 PM
Waiting for the update I've begun attempting to pit against one another various crawlers in my office. Unfortunately none of these sugar ants, roaches, or other assorted critters (in various stages of life from actively biting to dead & dusty) seem to have the fortitude of their video game outerparts and my co-workers have started calling me names. Please release the update so I can salvage what's let of my workplay reputation.

Nekcik
04-11-2011, 04:25 PM
I'm sure the update will be out later tonight, no reason to start speculating that the developer is shady what-so-ever. There is a logical explanation for everything and this delay is just due to it being a large game with first time game intro of IAP's. Patience...

Rain1dog
04-11-2011, 04:28 PM
I don't think that post was fair upon your part towards these gals/guys. You start off your post with, "what if" and then go on to slander them. Nobody knows the reason for the long wait and everyone is "jonsing" with you but the volley statements like that without knowing everything, IMO Dosent seem appropriate.

I just think your jumping the gun.

iJay
04-11-2011, 04:35 PM
haha c'mon people, K was totally kidding... and if you clicked on the link he posted, you would get the joke...

Dyelon
04-11-2011, 04:37 PM
haha c'mon people, K was totally kidding... and if you clicked on the link he posted, you would get the joke...

yeah hes just expressing his frustration in a different way LOL

i got a kick out of it...

this is so annoying though. i feel like such a geekazoid waiting for this ipod game lol...i just dont understand how it can take so long to "review"...what exactly entails the "review" process? checking for viruses?

Nekcik
04-11-2011, 04:39 PM
haha c'mon people, K was totally kidding... and if you clicked on the link he posted, you would get the joke...

I'm a sucker for falling for sarcasm. However the reason for the delay is still something I believe is the reason it's not out yet. If I were to guess though with the pattern of apple I'm willing to wager everything on a release in about ... No longer then 2 hours from this post.

Versago
04-11-2011, 04:39 PM
I like my guinea pig :0 http://i849.photobucket.com/albums/ab54/versago6/DSC00312.jpg

Dyelon
04-11-2011, 04:42 PM
I'm a sucker for falling for sarcasm. However the reason for the delay is still something I believe is the reason it's not out yet. If I were to guess though with the pattern of apple I'm willing to wager everything on a release in about ... No longer then 2 hours from this post.

LOL whered you pull that estimate out of huh?

Dyelon
04-11-2011, 04:43 PM
I like my guinea pig :0 http://i849.photobucket.com/albums/ab54/versago6/DSC00312.jpg

after that post foursakens gotta add a coliseum level inside a hamster cage...with a wheel and all!

LOL

Foursaken_Media
04-11-2011, 04:45 PM
Don't worry nothing has gone wrong with the update, its just that the actual IAP content has to be separately approved, meaning that there are essentially 2 things that are currently in review... the IAP and the update itself. I believe the IAP content is actually what is holding up the release :/

Hopefully it won't be more then another day or so!

Dyelon
04-11-2011, 04:51 PM
Don't worry nothing has gone wrong with the update, its just that the actual IAP content has to be separately approved, meaning that there are essentially 2 things that are currently in review... the IAP and the update itself. I believe the IAP content is actually what is holding up the release :/

Hopefully it won't be more then another day or so!

Another day or....?*dies*

Rain1dog
04-11-2011, 04:54 PM
Well at least I know I don't have to check my AppStore any more tonight... I'll look tomorrow.

Versago
04-11-2011, 04:54 PM
Don't worry nothing has gone wrong with the update, its just that the actual IAP content has to be separately approved, meaning that there are essentially 2 things that are currently in review... the IAP and the update itself. I believe the IAP content is actually what is holding up the release :/

Hopefully it won't be more then another day or so!

Is there a possibility of the update releasing today? Or did apple tell you that it is releasing tomorrow?

Fastbridge
04-11-2011, 04:55 PM
I don't think that post was fair upon your part towards these gals/guys. You start off your post with, "what if" and then go on to slander them. Nobody knows the reason for the long wait and everyone is "jonsing" with you but the volley statements like that without knowing everything, IMO Dosent seem appropriate.

I just think your jumping the gun.

K is like the poster boy for bug heroes. Just read through this thread and you will see. He in fact made the survival guide for peats sake.(I think he did). anyway he is kisdding

Dyelon
04-11-2011, 05:01 PM
Well at least I know I don't have to check my AppStore any more tonight... I'll look tomorrow.

Why are you saying that? When the update went into "Review" on friday everyone was checking until like 12am...including you...but now youre giving up at 5?...

do they still review apps until late into the night?

Oxynidus
04-11-2011, 05:10 PM
Hopefully it won't be more then another day or so!

You're saying that just to avoid getting our hopes up, right? Or do you really expect it to take about a day?

Dyelon
04-11-2011, 05:14 PM
you're saying that just to avoid getting our hopes up, right? Or do you really expect it to take about a day?

yeah! What he said!

Nekcik
04-11-2011, 05:14 PM
LOL whered you pull that estimate out of huh?

I'd tell you, but Touch Arcade would just censor it out.

pulled it out of my ass

Dyelon
04-11-2011, 05:20 PM
I'd tell you, but Touch Arcade would just censor it out.

pulled it out of my ass

hahaha...were such losers...i just wanna play the new heroes damnit....sigh....

its probably better it doesnt come out tonight...i have a huge anatomy and physiology midterm tomorrow....goddamn pharmacy school, interfering first with my marvel vs capcom 3 skills, and now bug heroes...i could be way over 97,000 points by now if i wasnt studying all the time!

Ayjona
04-11-2011, 05:35 PM
goddamn pharmacy school, interfering first with my marvel vs capcom 3 skills, and now bug heroes...i could be way over 97,000 points by now if i wasnt studying all the time!

Your priorities are clearly messed up. You need to spend more time on Toucharcade, and have other members lead you back to the things of true value and importance in life.

Dyelon
04-11-2011, 05:38 PM
Your priorities are clearly messed up. You need to spend more time on Toucharcade, and have other members lead you back to the things of true value and importance in life.

if there were less retarded games like zenonia dominating the action/RPG ipod landspace id be on here more

Rain1dog
04-11-2011, 05:38 PM
I'm just telling myself that, to try and temper my enthusiasm of hours upon hours upon days of gaming goodness.....

Seriously this update will provide people, who truly enjoy this genre, months of gameplay. It's literally an entirely new game, IMO with all the content. For .99 a pop you can not get more for your money period. Enjoy these times my friends... Quality of this type for .99 is value that most people do not appreciate.

I get the sarcasm now, sorry my emotional ties clouded my judgement.

GodSon
04-11-2011, 06:16 PM
Hopefully it won't be more then another day or so!

Hmmmmmmmmm......


*Translates* So it's been approved and your waiting to release it Wednesday night huh? :rolleyes:

:D

Rain1dog
04-11-2011, 07:05 PM
Grrrrr.... I'm all out of energy and free credits for contract killer by glu, I have to wait 3 hours for zombies to grow in zombie farm... What to do???

Well, it's 5pm PST I guess it will be the 8th day before we can enjoy this slice of gaming heaven. =^(

K?!
04-11-2011, 07:53 PM
Grrrrr.... I'm all out of energy and free credits for contract killer by glu, I have to wait 3 hours for zombies to grow in zombie farm... What to do???

Well, it's 5pm PST I guess it will be the 8th day before we can enjoy this slice of gaming heaven. =^(

Heh. I'd be crazy if I didn't have minecraft. One more thing. Would it be better or worse if you knew more about the heroes? Would it make you more or less excited? Just wondering.

jxw245
04-11-2011, 07:56 PM
Anyone know anything about the new enemies?

Rain1dog
04-11-2011, 08:25 PM
I'm not sure to be honest... Bug heroes was a sleeper for me. I actually just bought on a whim and played it for a day and didn't like it. I didn't like it because I never took the time to fully appreciate what FM had taken the time to do and flesh out a blending of genres into one seamless game. Once I took note and realized how simple but yet complex of a game it became addictive with just how dynamic it is. I love how I knew nothing about the game so had zero expectations about it... It was just new, fresh, fun... No standards perceived by myself to pass or fail... It was like the first time you went around the block as a young lad and it was fun, adventurous.

I like that no knowing so I can make my own first judgement for myself. I want to discover the newness by myself for a game of this magnitude.

Man for the last two nights I have had nothing to do, pure free time, rather dishearting not being able to satisfy the eagerness. I guess it will be on the 8th day that a higher power will unleash it on us.

Foursaken_Media
04-11-2011, 08:32 PM
Anyone know anything about the new enemies?

I'll tease you with one (well... 2) new enemies that are pretty unique :p

The "Fungus Ant Necromancer." Basically he will resurrect any enemies that die within a radius of him as a "Fungus Zombie." Fungus Zombies are nearly immune to damage, and will basically only die once you kill the Necromancer which created them... they can really start piling up and creating some havoc if you don't take down the Necromancers quickly!

I know, I know... zombies you say?!? Actually the Fungus Ant Necromancer is based on a real life fungus which infects Carpenter Ants and basically makes them into ant zombies. Crazy, I know, but true!

http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2011/0303/Zombie-ants-How-a-fungus-takes-control-of-carpenter-ants

Another cool new enemy is the "Hungry Bug", which carries a huge knife and fork as weapons. They'll spin and spin for a few seconds, damaging anything that gets in their path. After a while they'll tire and rest for a few seconds -- basically the only time they are vulnerable.

In fact, the 25+ new enemies (most of them very unique) are a very underrated part of the update imo :p

jxw245
04-11-2011, 08:35 PM
I'll tease you with one (well... 2) new enemies that are pretty unique :p

The "Fungus Ant Necromancer." Basically he will resurrect any enemies that die within a radius of him as a "Fungus Zombie." Fungus Zombies are nearly immune to damage, and will basically only die once you kill the Necromancer which created them... they can really start piling up and creating some havoc if you don't take down the Necromancers quickly!

I know, I know... zombies you say?!? Actually the Fungus Ant Necromancer is based on a real life fungus which infects Carpenter Ants and basically makes them into ant zombies. Crazy, I know, but true!

http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2011/0303/Zombie-ants-How-a-fungus-takes-control-of-carpenter-ants

Another cool new enemy is the "Hungry Bug", which carries a huge knife and fork as weapons. They'll spin and spin for a few seconds, damaging anything that gets in their path. After a while they'll tire and rest for a few seconds -- basically the only time they are vulnerable.

In fact, the 25+ new enemies (most of them very unique) are a very underrated part of the update imo :pNow i'm really excited! :D Will all the new enemies be iAP or come with the update?

Nekcik
04-11-2011, 08:37 PM
I'll tease you with one (well... 2) new enemies that are pretty unique :p

The "Fungus Ant Necromancer." Basically he will resurrect any enemies that die within a radius of him as a "Fungus Zombie." Fungus Zombies are nearly immune to damage, and will basically only die once you kill the Necromancer which created them... they can really start piling up and creating some havoc if you don't take down the Necromancers quickly!

I know, I know... zombies you say?!? Actually the Fungus Ant Necromancer is based on a real life fungus which infects Carpenter Ants and basically makes them into ant zombies. Crazy, I know, but true!

http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2011/0303/Zombie-ants-How-a-fungus-takes-control-of-carpenter-ants

Another cool new enemy is the "Hungry Bug", which carries a huge knife and fork as weapons. They'll spin and spin for a few seconds, damaging anything that gets in their path. After a while they'll tire and rest for a few seconds -- basically the only time they are vulnerable.

In fact, the 25+ new enemies (most of them very unique) are a very underrated part of the update imo :p

Wow, Talk about a tease! You do it better then my girlfriend wearing lingerie giving me finger gestures.

Rain1dog
04-11-2011, 08:40 PM
Bug heroes will be competing here the next few nights for lingerie time.... Bah... I'm going to have to take a longer than normal shower putting blame on manscaping to get me my BH fix, heh. Not a bad spot to be in.

asjhust
04-11-2011, 08:43 PM
cute game,~

currymutton
04-11-2011, 08:58 PM
OT: Read about zombie ants some time ago, and iirc, certain wasp can "tap" into a cockroach's brain and makes it as the personal vehicle and then living fridge for her kids

Ah, here it is (warning: if you hate roaches, the images may be too graphic for you):

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/12/071206-roach-zombie.html
http://boingboing.net/2006/02/03/wasp-performs-roachb.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerald_cockroach_wasp

GodSon
04-11-2011, 09:01 PM
OT: Read about zombie ants some time ago, and iirc, certain wasp can "tap" into a cockroach's brain and makes it as the personal vehicle and then living fridge for her kids

Ah, here it is (warning: if you hate roaches, the images may be too graphic for you):

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/12/071206-roach-zombie.html
http://boingboing.net/2006/02/03/wasp-performs-roachb.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerald_cockroach_wasp

Dope find! Thanks for the literature on it. ;)

currymutton
04-11-2011, 09:18 PM
Dope find! Thanks for the literature on it. ;)

Further OT: I think those spammers and/or other evil-doers love to hear about such chemicals....

Back: A lot of new heroes and enemies teased, can't wait for the next update.

Oxynidus
04-11-2011, 09:41 PM
Seriously, Jamie: Can you not tell us the next time you submit an update? I mean, look at how it's driving us crazy. :p Anyone agree? I'm too anxious about the game to study.

currymutton
04-11-2011, 09:54 PM
Seriously, Jamie: Can you not tell us the next time you submit an update? I mean, look at how it's driving us crazy. :p Anyone agree? I'm too anxious about the game to study.

Agree absolutely! Will put on that Fling thing to see how it fares!

Rain1dog
04-11-2011, 10:03 PM
Well I now know it takes a solid week for a game to make it past apples crew. So next time I eagerly wait for a solid title Ill know the wait. I thought this was going to be a 1-3 day process but going on 8 whole days. I really really do hope this thing pops up tomorrow and not at 10pm either.

Oxynidus
04-11-2011, 10:55 PM
Say if Apple approves the update while the Fours4ken Media team is sleeping, do we have to wait for them to wake up and approve the update? :p

Rain1dog
04-11-2011, 11:00 PM
I just got an update to mission europia at 1100pm so I guess updates pop up whenever.

That was cruel, I got so stoked for a sec. Grrr

Nekcik
04-11-2011, 11:07 PM
Say if Apple approves the update while the Fours4ken Media team is sleeping, do we have to wait for them to wake up and approve the update? :p

Yes and not only that... we have to wait for them to make AND drink their coffee too!

K?!
04-11-2011, 11:14 PM
Let's see...

We'd have to wait for them to wake up, put on their clothes, find out where they are, Walk home, make coffee, boot up Windows ME, reposition the pringles can to catch the neighbors Wifi, and wait for iTunes to boot up. Even if it's approved this very instant, we'd still get it in about 12 hours.

Osmiral
04-11-2011, 11:17 PM
I just got an update to mission europia at 1100pm so I guess updates pop up whenever.

That was cruel, I got so stoked for a sec. Grrr

Wait the Mission Europa update is out???

Rain1dog
04-11-2011, 11:42 PM
Yeah, hit my AppStore at 11

I just got bug panic lite... Fun but by no means will hold my attention.

tomato937
04-11-2011, 11:55 PM
This looks pretty good.

Rain1dog
04-12-2011, 05:27 AM
...... And here we r day 8... Does it see the light of day for us outside apples offices??

Grrr... Have to wait 10 am here for it to be... At least 6-7 more hours a fulls day work, bah.. Actually BP update just landed her at 6am.. Might get lucky and sooner... All these false alarms killing me.

K?!
04-12-2011, 06:09 AM
...... And here we r day 8... Does it see the light of day for us outside apples offices??

Grrr... Have to wait 10 am here for it to be... At least 6-7 more hours a fulls day work, bah..

Do you have a job? Do you sleep? You seem to check at all hours of the day...

Rain1dog
04-12-2011, 06:19 AM
I work some odd hours... =D

Dyelon
04-12-2011, 10:00 AM
...... And here we r day 8... Does it see the light of day for us outside apples offices??

Grrr... Have to wait 10 am here for it to be... At least 6-7 more hours a fulls day work, bah.. Actually BP update just landed her at 6am.. Might get lucky and sooner... All these false alarms killing me.

BP update?

and this is effing ridiculous

Rain1dog
04-12-2011, 10:11 AM
I guess since it's basically 3 stand alone games in a sense it's taking a long time to review. I'm telling you somebody's bullguarding the fun!!

C.Hannum
04-12-2011, 10:32 AM
and this is effing ridiculous
Not really, it's pretty much how every review process goes, you're all just so hyped up that the posts regarding the update range from the sort of silly ("next time don't keep us updated!") to conspiratorial ("they're playing the game instead of greenlighting it") to just plain old bitching (e.g. the post I'm replying to).

There is no fixed process to these reviews - sometimes things are in and out in couple of days, sometimes a week or more, sometimes they hang in limbo for more than a month. Take a breath, go do something else, and when they get around to ensuring there are no hidden nipples or loopholes that let FM make money where Apple doesn't get their cut, the update will be out.

Just because the *average* review is *around* a week doesn't make the fact that it's Tuesday and we're not killing zombie roaches unusual, rather, quite the opposite.

Rain1dog
04-12-2011, 10:40 AM
Not really, it's pretty much how every review process goes, you're all just so hyped up that the posts regarding the update range from the sort of silly ("next time don't keep us updated!") to conspiratorial ("they're playing the game instead of greenlighting it") to just plain old bitching (e.g. the post I'm replying to).

There is no fixed process to these reviews - sometimes things are in and out in couple of days, sometimes a week or more, sometimes they hang in limbo for more than a month. Take a breath, go do something else, and when they get around to ensuring there are no hidden nipples or loopholes that let FM make money where Apple doesn't get their cut, the update will be out.

Just because the *average* review is *around* a week doesn't make the fact that it's Tuesday and we're not killing zombie roaches unusual, rather, quite the opposite.
I felt like I was a kid being scolded at toys r us when I wanted the NES with tiger heli and jackal back in the day, lol.

Yeah we all know, bud, Everyones really looking forward to a very solid title to be played.

Dyelon
04-12-2011, 10:49 AM
There is no fixed process to these reviews - sometimes things are in and out in couple of days, sometimes a week or more, sometimes they hang in limbo for more than a month. Take a breath, go do something else, and when they get around to ensuring there are no hidden nipples or loopholes that let FM make money where Apple doesn't get their cut, the update will be out.

wow REALLY?! There's no DEFINITE length of time it takes?! WOWWW thanks bro!

i never thought to take a breath and do something else! oh wait, im studying 24/7 for a pharmacy school midterm, thats right, oh and on a computer too! thats probably why I'm on the forums checking frequently!

i dont need you to tell me to calm down, im enjoying belittling apples process to no end with other people on the forum

Nekcik
04-12-2011, 10:55 AM
^ Wow! Lol

GodSon
04-12-2011, 11:20 AM
I'm glad the mod cleaned up the insult, it was very unnecessary. While we're waiting(and hopefully not much longer) Cross Fingers is an absolute steal to get for a buck that should contain the mind for a while.

I'm hoping the update comes out later today or tomorrow when the other game big name games drop.

COHagan23
04-12-2011, 11:57 AM
wow REALLY?! There's no DEFINITE length of time it takes?! WOWWW thanks bro!

i never thought to take a breath and do something else! oh wait, im studying 24/7 for a pharmacy school midterm, thats right, oh and on a computer too! thats probably why I'm on the forums checking frequently!

i dont need you to tell me to calm down, im enjoying belittling apples process to no end with other people on the forum

I'm actually quite glad Hannum posted what he did as I'm also tired of reading people spam this thread with useless and childish whining about the review process.

Foursaken_Media
04-12-2011, 12:19 PM
I'm really glad everyone is excited for the update, trust me... but please, lets try to keep it a bit more civil ;) No need for people to get upset over anything...

Just to settle things down I'll give details on another particularly interesting enemy, the Brown Recluse... a savage beast residing in the jungles of the Flower Garden, this feral spider will immobilize any hero bit for 10 full seconds -- but only the hero that was actually hit. So if you are unfortunate enough to be bit by one, your best option is to quickly switch heroes while the effect wears off of the affected hero.

Rain1dog
04-12-2011, 12:19 PM
Deep breathes... Easy... I'm amazed at how people can get so uptight over silly stuff.

I've been waiting a long time for this update. IMO this game, to me, is Mario is to N, crash was to Sony, Zelda... It's a device seller. It's top quality completely fleshed out for all avid gamers to enjoy. The game provides a remarkable amount of strategy, playstyles, events, great graphics all which truly immerse you into the game. It's rare games like this on any platform appear in any given year. Think about it... During the course of a year you buy a bunch of games... Maybe 10 really get you to play the game through, 4-7 grip you for the play through to where you finish it in a few days but never really return, 1-3 games a year grip you and keep you coming back for more, and more, and more and will have you thinking during your day about better combinations, different approachs... It calls you and you have some great memories tied to that title.

This is that 1-3 titles a year that are true gems... People are just very eager to get ahold of a release like this... It's RARE! That's what the fuss is about...

diffusion8r
04-12-2011, 12:31 PM
What will the change hero screen be like with 9 total heroes? Can you only choose 3 beforehand?

Osmiral
04-12-2011, 12:50 PM
What will the change hero screen be like with 9 total heroes? Can you only choose 3 beforehand?

Yeah before each battle you choose which three heroes you want to take into battle.

Joshnsuch
04-12-2011, 01:08 PM
This argument is out of control and kind of unnecessary.. Haha, well I'm just posting here to make mention that I am psyched for the update whenever it gets releeased. The sooner, the better, but let's be patient.

GodSon
04-12-2011, 01:25 PM
I'm really glad everyone is excited for the update, trust me... but please, lets try to keep it a bit more civil ;) No need for people to get upset over anything...

Just to settle things down I'll give details on another particularly interesting enemy, the Brown Recluse... a savage beast residing in the jungles of the Flower Garden, this feral spider will immobilize any hero bit for 10 full seconds -- but only the hero that was actually hit. So if you are unfortunate enough to be bit by one, your best option is to quickly switch heroes while the effect wears off of the affected hero.

Sounds like a winner. Thanks for dropping in and mediating/letting us know about another awesome enemy. I'm sure the recluse will be pretty fast moving?

Deep breathes... Easy... I'm amazed at how people can get so uptight over silly stuff.

I've been waiting a long time for this update. IMO this game, to me, is Mario is to N, crash was to Sony, Zelda... It's a device seller. It's top quality completely fleshed out for all avid gamers to enjoy. The game provides a remarkable amount of strategy, playstyles, events, great graphics all which truly immerse you into the game. It's rare games like this on any platform appear in any given year. Think about it... During the course of a year you buy a bunch of games... Maybe 10 really get you to play the game through, 4-7 grip you for the play through to where you finish it in a few days but never really return, 1-3 games a year grip you and keep you coming back for more, and more, and more and will have you thinking during your day about better combinations, different approachs... It calls you and you have some great memories tied to that title.

This is that 1-3 titles a year that are true gems... People are just very eager to get ahold of a release like this... It's RARE! That's what the fuss is about...

Well said and I 100% agree and share the same views on Bug Heroes as its my mascot game for iOS without a doubt. Funny thing was the only reason I picked it up initially(other than the graphics and description which intrigued me) was based off it getting a future update adding GC support. Best pick up of the year for iOS and a very rare true gem in itself. ;)

Jellowpy
04-12-2011, 02:15 PM
Journal:
On my 6th day waiting for the update for the game that i have learned to love and have kept me company on my boring days.. Still no sign of it appearing in the bar where i always get my fix ,bar being called Itunes Appstore... its 3:12Am at the moment in my country my eyes are getting heavier by the minute and still no sign of this wonderful apps.. I think i need to give in to nature telling me i needed a rest and tomorrow might be our lucky day ...

Signing off for now with a sad face :(
Meh just bored and sleepy waiting for the update
Dont mind me

Versago
04-12-2011, 02:44 PM
Does apple review the Iap seperately so there are 4 reviews going on including the update itself?

Rain1dog
04-12-2011, 02:51 PM
No idea, myself. This is the first time I've ever been on a hook for a game on an iOS device, so I'm not versed in the manner in which apple goes about releasing multiple IAP updates.

Foursaken_Media
04-12-2011, 04:57 PM
Does apple review the Iap seperately so there are 4 reviews going on including the update itself?

Correct, or thats the way it looks anyway... so essentially there are 4 things in review right now... and trust me, playing the "waiting game" is just as frustrating for us :p It will be such a load off once this update is finally released!

Rain1dog
04-12-2011, 05:17 PM
Correct, or thats the way it looks anyway... so essentially there are 4 things in review right now... and trust me, playing the "waiting game" is just as frustrating for us :p It will be such a load off once this update is finally released!
FM, do you as a company have to approve the review after apple let's loose of it? Or does the update just release to the public after apple? I ask because I had updates for other apps drop last night around 11:00CST.

DtheGOPkiller
04-12-2011, 05:58 PM
Sometimes it seems they are fast and sometimes they are really slow.
I have about 150 apps and games on my phone and I haven't seen one update in days and that's rare so maybe so of the reviewers are sick or something? I have a friend who is a special projects manager for Apple and he said they have like 40 to 50 full time reviewers so maybe some are sick or on vacation.

Versago
04-12-2011, 06:02 PM
Sometimes it seems they are fast and sometimes they are really slow.
I have about 150 apps and games on my phone and I haven't seen one update in days and that's rare so maybe so of the reviewers are sick or something? I have a friend who is a special projects manager for Apple and he said they have like 40 to 50 full time reviewers so maybe some are sick or on vacation.

I think that the reason this update is slow is because it contains 3 iap with an update. The people would have to review 4 things separately, and also due to the fact that the update was moved "in review" on friday that would probably delay it even later.

K?!
04-12-2011, 06:04 PM
FM, do you as a company have to approve the review after apple let's loose of it? Or does the update just release to the public after apple? I ask because I had updates for other apps drop last night around 11:00CST.

The developer can choose for it to either be released as soon as possible or for it to wait for the green single.

Rain1dog
04-12-2011, 06:08 PM
I wonder how much a reviewer gets paid?

Versago
04-12-2011, 06:08 PM
I wonder how much a reviewer gets paid?
lol, I wonder also...It must be a fun job playing and reviewing games as a living :P.

DtheGOPkiller
04-12-2011, 06:09 PM
Yeah I am sure that those things are holding
It up. But if in review means that's it's activly being reviewed how long can it take? It's not like it's a massive console game. Maybe one of the brothers from FM broke some poor girls heart at Apple and she's taking revenge.

Rain1dog
04-12-2011, 06:21 PM
Either that or some sorry chap got smoked by his girl and he's taking revenge, woman are very very very clever and if they are charming at the same time, you have become seduced and become a puppet for her doing just as long as you think you have a shot at the cupcake.

C.Hannum
04-12-2011, 06:41 PM
It must be a fun job playing and reviewing games as a living :P.
Probably, but that's not what goes into their review process. They're ensuring the devs haven't done anything to break the rules of the app store and that all the "paperwork" is in order. I'm not even sure if they check to see if the game executes at all given some of the stuff that's come through the review process with the stamp of approval. It's probably a lot of dry, boring running code through parsers looking for verboten things like data stealing and nipple easter eggs.

K?!
04-12-2011, 06:42 PM
Either that or some sorry chap got smoked by his girl and he's taking revenge, woman are very very very clever and if they are charming at the same time, you have become seduced and become a puppet for her doing just as long as you think you have a shot at the cupcake.

The update must be approved soon. The patients are relapsing into madness.

But I must say this is one of the more interesting conspiracy theories I've heard.

And any details on the eighth hero?