Official TOKI TORI Upcoming Thread (Now To Be Published by CHILLINGO!)

[superbad]

There are tons of where's Toki Tori threads. Basically, it's still being developed but Chillingo just announced on their Twitter account that they'll now be publishing Toki Tori! :eek:

Chillingo swoops in EVERY big upcoming title.

[theone1007]

YAY! Any news on the release, gameplay, etc.?

[coconutbowling]

Front page article. :)

I actually look forward to this game.

[theone1007]

Front page article. :)

I actually look forward to this game.

Well yeah I saw that,,,,but the release date? Very curious about when this wonderfully looking game will come out.

[anduril_ukr]

this game really looks like it could be great.

[writingsama]

I will say this:

1) It was originally a gameboy color game, which may worry you about the controls? don't! here's why:
2) I played it on WiiWare
3) I LOVED IT TO PIECES
4) I used the wiimote-pointer interface, and it worked very well, with ONE EXCEPTION
5) that exception was an EXTREMELY tightly timed level, that it just wasn't precise enough, but I eventually did it, and that was the only, isolated problem, the pointer interface was good 99.9999999% of the time
6) If the touch controls are anything like the wii-mote controls, this game won't be another crappy port, it'll be a really, really fun/unique puzzler for the iphone

on the Wii I felt like it was The Lost Vikings minus some of the fun (due to the GBC being much more limited than the hardware that The Lost Vikings was made on, but it made up for it in other ways and was still very fun) but on the iPhone the pacing seems much more sensible. I predict it will be a 10/10 game. The devs took a lot of care with the controls on the Wii, I'm sure they will on the iphone too.

[DaveMc99]

WiiWare Teaser Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoWkiRYdCKM

[gscal]

It was a good WiiWare title, but can they pull it off on iPhone?

[ericxd]

can someone tell me why dun developers JUST publish the game since they MADE it, why they have to get a publisher that dun do shiiiit at all get part of what they made???!?!?!

[writingsama]

can someone tell me why dun developers JUST publish the game since they MADE it, why they have to get a publisher that dun do shiiiit at all get part of what they made???!?!?!

Chillingo has made a name for themselves. Most of the titles they publish turn a profit. People follow them on twitter, and look out for what they're doing. Yes they're a "man in the middle," but they are much less expensive than alternative marketing routes. Most people associate "chillingo" with good games.

Also, IIRC, they often lend resources such as devs that are familiar with iphone development, artists, etc. that can help a 1-person game programmer out a LOT, help them make a 3-star into a 5-star game just with art assets and other various assistance

[superbad]

Chillingo has made a name for themselves. Most of the titles they publish turn a profit. People follow them on twitter, and look out for what they're doing. Yes they're a "man in the middle," but they are much less expensive than alternative marketing routes. Most people associate "chillingo" with good games.

Also, IIRC, they often lend resources such as devs that are familiar with iphone development, artists, etc. that can help a 1-person game programmer out a LOT, help them make a 3-star into a 5-star game just with art assets and other various assistance

Depends.

If your game blows up into a huge success, they take out a bigger piece of your cake. But then again, there is a smaller chance of your app blowing app had you published yourself.

[arta]

It was a good WiiWare title, but can they pull it off on iPhone?

SlideToPlay and Toucharcade have videos of the game on the iPhone. It looks good.

[iGame]

Why do people want Chillingo to publish their games...? Cant they just submit it themselves o.O

[writingsama]

Why do people want Chillingo to publish their games...? Cant they just submit it themselves o.O

why can't people read an 11-message thread? can't they just read the thread and see that the question has been asked, answered and discussed already, all in the first 11 messages?

[ericxd]

Chillingo has made a name for themselves. Most of the titles they publish turn a profit. People follow them on twitter, and look out for what they're doing. Yes they're a "man in the middle," but they are much less expensive than alternative marketing routes. Most people associate "chillingo" with good games.

Also, IIRC, they often lend resources such as devs that are familiar with iphone development, artists, etc. that can help a 1-person game programmer out a LOT, help them make a 3-star into a 5-star game just with art assets and other various assistance

k i get it,Chilllingo has a name. But not all of their games are appealing.

Doesnt it make more sense if ur game is GOOD, for example DEV from iShoot, wouldnt the game sells itself?

Is not like i even look at 'whos' the publisher before i purchase, I dun go 'oh iDracula by Chillingo, must be a good game...'
Im more like 'iDracula looks sick, im buying it'

make sense?

[TheOZ]

k i get it,Chilllingo has a name. But not all of their games are appealing.

Doesnt it make more sense if ur game is GOOD, for example DEV from iShoot, wouldnt the game sells itself?

Is not like i even look at 'whos' the publisher before i purchase, I dun go 'oh iDracula by Chillingo, must be a good game...'
Im more like 'iDracula looks sick, im buying it'

make sense?

The problem the appstore has is its limited visibility, imo I think apple could make some small changes to the app store in order for customers to easily find a game they're interested in without going on a massive hunt maybe instead of the traditional eight apps they have under the "News and Noteworthy" and "Whats Hot" categories they could have maybe sixteen maybe even an "Underdog/Most Overlooked category" just to boost visibility. Honestly before I found toucharcade and other places which help point out the decent apps and the apps to watch for I would spend more then enough time trying to find some good games for my iPod Touch.

Chillingo gives you that visibility boost showing off games with maybe not a huge amount of money to spend campaigning and marketing. The publisher is basically your manager. You do all the creating and the publisher promotes it and makes it happen.

I've heard adds cost more then a pretty penny so it's good for those people with a sort tight/limited budget or who just don't want to deal with the hassle of promoting their product after it's finished.

And another reason i've been going over in my head is that they would want a publisher because they aren't too sure how their app will do so maybe they don't have to pay the extra hundred dollars just to submit their app to the App Store and have it be a dud that would be $100 down the drain, but I don't know just a thought.

[randomdude]

Awesome

[VoodooVyper]

When the hell is this game coming out?!? Back in February I read an article saying the same damn "Toki Torio... Hatching Soon" garbage that I've been seeing ever since. Then, out of nowhere, this wonderful news is revealed 10 days ago that it will be out "soon".
My question... what the hell is "soon"!?!? They used "soon" 2 months ago and now are using it again. I just want to play the damn game :p

[arta]

I read somewhere it was May, will double check that.

[Swordplay]

I can't wait! I played the game on my friends wii and loved it!

[freedog]

Toki Tori the best puzzle games ever. THe wii version came out later than scheduled too. Its unfortunate about the iphone delay, Im confident this will be one of the best iphone games of all time though, esspecially for people who missed out on the GBC and Wii versions.

[greenro89]

I follow chillingo on my twitter page and i noticed that early this morning they twittered about all the websites that did a preview review of Toki Tori. Most of these previews were posted with in the last couple of days so does this mean the release will be very soon or has anyone heard anything about it??

Oh yea is their twitter page if you want to look at the previews. http://twitter.com/chillingo

[CandyNJ66]

Green, I sure hope so. I am a beta tester for Toki and I'm pleased to see the place I work for up there among the list of sites that previewed Toki :)

It's a wonderful game and I am sure you will love it when it is released :)

[arta]

I follow chillingo on my twitter page and i noticed that early this morning they twittered about all the websites that did a preview review of Toki Tori. Most of these previews were posted with in the last couple of days so does this mean the release will be very soon or has anyone heard anything about it??

Oh yea is their twitter page if you want to look at the previews. http://twitter.com/chillingoThing is, they gave those previews to a bunch of bum sites. Where's the previews from Toucharcade, IGN, Pocketgamer and SlidetoPlay?

[greenro89]

Thx candy i've been waiting for this game for a very long time and arta just so you know the portable gamer and touch my apps are decents app sites too they just don't get the publicity like the ones you mentioned

[arn]

Thing is, they gave those previews to a bunch of bum sites. Where's the previews from Toucharcade, IGN, Pocketgamer and SlidetoPlay?

ya, not sure what their logic is.

We received a very early preview copy from the developers themselves back in February: http://toucharcade.com/2009/02/25/preview-video-of-iphone-puzzle-platformer-toki-tori/

but haven't received a new copy since Chillingo has taken the publishing over.

arn

[CandyNJ66]

Thing is, they gave those previews to a bunch of bum sites. Where's the previews from Toucharcade, IGN, Pocketgamer and SlidetoPlay?

bum sites? I work for one of those "bum" sites and don't think that is an appropriate word at all. The word should be more like "great" and involving into a force to be reckoned with in the future. :)

[CandyNJ66]

Thx candy i've been waiting for this game for a very long time and arta just so you know the portable gamer and touch my apps are decents app sites too they just don't get the publicity like the ones you mentioned

Thank you Green! We are working on it :)

[superbad]

bum sites? I work for one of those "bum" sites and don't think that is an appropriate word at all. The word should be more like "great" and involving into a force to be reckoned with in the future. :)

I think the word is evolving :p

[greenro89]

you are more than welcome candy!

[arta]

7CfGqhnIBSE

[peter2nvy]

some new screen shots and updates of this game have just been released at :
http://www.razorianfly.com/2009/preview-toki-tori/ :D

[arta]

To be fair, I'd say TouchMyApps and AppGamer aren't "bum sites". We were given a build earlier in the month as well but haven't got around to writing a preview.

Okay, I checked them out and they aren't bum sites (the others in the twitter are though). Still a mystery why they got a bunch of previews and the top sites didn't.

[jFND]

Okay, I checked them out and they aren't bum sites (the others in the twitter are though). Still a mystery why they got a bunch of previews and the top sites didn't.

Well, as far as I know, my co-editors aren't previewing it because they have their plates full already with Assassin's Creed and CJS ( ;) ). I just did an exclusive interview with Underworlds' Chief Creative Officer and we're still trying to get other exclusives with Firemint and new information for Star Defense. I have some news you guys might not have got from Xpressed (makers of UniWar) on the new update, but I didn't plan on releasing that news because they gave me the bare minimum -- not worth an article (yet).

Toki Tori looks fun though, only one of us got the preview build so that explains why I'm not covering it.

[YungAssassin_BHB]

YouTube: video (http://youtube.com/watch?v=7CfGqhnIBSE)

OH SNAP
I can't wait

[howtocode]

cant wait for this one

[CandyNJ66]

Okay, I checked them out and they aren't bum sites (the others in the twitter are though). Still a mystery why they got a bunch of previews and the top sites didn't.

Thank you arta :)

I'm really enjoying Toki. I stand by my prediction that this will be quite a big seller for the idevice.

[CandyNJ66]

some new screen shots and updates of this game have just been released at :
http://www.razorianfly.com/2009/preview-toki-tori/ :D

There is a preview of the same build that was done days ago, click sig to see pics and Toki juggling :)

[don_k]

Thank you arta :)

I'm really enjoying Toki. I stand by my prediction that this will be quite a big seller for the idevice.

Hi Candy, will later levels incorporate more complicated puzzles? Because the first few levels look really easy and repetitive. Will there be different environments, enemies, items, etc (progressive a la old school platformers)? Or is it just different obstacles on the same background again and again?

[CandyNJ66]

Thanks, that helps :)
I love the forest and castle levels, can't wait to have this + Zenonia.

Sorry, I changed the link to be more direct.

The castle level is my favorite I think!

yes both games are looking to be two of the best on the idevice.

[don_k]

yes both games are looking to be two of the best on the idevice.

and you beta-test both! x)

[CandyNJ66]

and you beta-test both! x)

Heh yes :) I am blessed

[nuggetsman28]

am i the only one who thinks this app seems sorta...lame and kiddish?

[jawslover]

am i the only one who thinks this app seems sorta...lame and kiddish?

I agree, I don't see what the appeal is:confused:

[CandyNJ66]

am i the only one who thinks this app seems sorta...lame and kiddish?

Believe me, it's not! It's fantastic, you'll see :)

[theone1007]

This app looks wonderful! From the screenshots, the graphics look beautiful with gorgeous scenery and detail in the bird and obstacles. Can't wait for this game to come out, any news on the release date Candy? Sorry if release date was posted already...

[CandyNJ66]

This app looks wonderful! From the screenshots, the graphics look beautiful with gorgeous scenery and detail in the bird and obstacles. Can't wait for this game to come out, any news on the release date Candy? Sorry if release date was posted already...

I don't know what the release date is currently. Never got one in the press release as well. I don't think my boss even knows.

The details are wonderful. I never played the gameboy color or the Nintendo Wii-ware version but all I know is that the IDEVICE version is gorgeous.

The music is really catchy. A lot of love has gone into this game obviously.

[greenro89]

thanks to appgamer.net for the preview and brand new screenshots

http://appgamer.net/features/2009/apr/30/toki-tori-preview-and-screenshot-blow-out/

[freedog]

Don't be fooled by the cartoony theme. This is one of the best puzzle games ever. My favorite Gameboy color game 9 years ago , it was released when the gameboy advance was "taking over" so not enough people paid any attention to it. They missed out and now if they have an iphone they are in for a treat...

[VoodooVyper]

I'm looki... have been looking forward to this game... for damn months since they said it was coming 'soon'. That word will be the death of me.

[Mew2468]

thanks to appgamer.net for the preview and brand new screenshots

http://appgamer.net/features/2009/apr/30/toki-tori-preview-and-screenshot-blow-out/

Cool, thanks for the link :).

Can't wait!!! I never got to play it for GBC, and I was going to pick it up for WiiWare. iPhone is even better!

[greenro89]

according to two tribes twitter they have submitted toki tori to apple and will be in review :)

check it out here http://twitter.com/TwoTribesGames

[freedog]

according to two tribes twitter they have submitted toki tori to apple and will be in review :)

check it out here http://twitter.com/TwoTribesGames

Awesome Hurry up on this one apple

[freedog]

Green Did they mention an intro price?

[greenro89]

Green Did they mention an intro price?

No i didn't and haven't seen anything come from their twitter. Also their main website doesn't have any information about the game, but i follow them on my twitter feed so if they say anything i will let ya know if no one has already mentioned it

Edit: i forgot way back in their feed they mentioned a 4.99 price tag

[greenro89]

also they said it is under 10 mb if anyone wanted to know and apparently that cuts down on the review process with apple

[theone1007]

also they said it is under 10 mb if anyone wanted to know and apparently that cuts down on the review process with apple

It also lets you download the game using 3G and Edge network which is I guess good news since some people will be outside when this game comes out.

[greenro89]

It also lets you download the game using 3G and Edge network which is I guess good news since some people will be outside when this game comes out.

oh sorry i wouldn't know that cuz i have an ipod touch but that is some interesting info

[freedog]

Does anyone know on average how long it takes for a 10 mb game to be approved after being submitted?

[VoodooVyper]

Cripes, finally it has been submitted.

[freedog]

Two Tribes has made this statement --- Price will be $4.99 for the full game, which features roughly 80 levels and will keep you busy for 10+ hours!

[dannys95]

Two Tribes has made this statement --- Price will be $4.99 for the full game, which features roughly 80 levels and will keep you busy for 10+ hours!

Check the bold text. Hmmmm......

[Swordplay]

Two Tribes has made this statement --- Price will be $4.99 for the full game, which features roughly 80 levels and will keep you busy for 10+ hours!

What do they mean by full game? will the game also be released in chapters? Either way I'm excited, This game rocks on the wiiware!

[freedog]

What do they mean by full game? will the game also be released in chapters? Either way I'm excited, This game rocks on the wiiware!

I dont know what they meant, it was their statement but I seriously doubt the game will be released in parts, they may be putting out a lite version...who knows. Besides what could be a better statemnt than that. $4.99 for the full game with 10+ hrs of gameplay and 80 levels. Sounds great to me.

[TwoTribes]

What do they mean by full game? will the game also be released in chapters? Either way I'm excited, This game rocks on the wiiware!

We sent out a preview version with only 20 levels. The full game will feature approx 80 levels. That's what we meant ;-) We'll not release it in chapters, you get the full game for that price. And there will be a LITE version at some point in time.

If you need to know anything else, ask away ;-)

Cheers,


Martijn

[Prab]

We sent out a preview version with only 20 levels. The full game will feature approx 80 levels. That's what we meant ;-) We'll not release it in chapters, you get the full game for that price. And there will be a LITE version at some point in time.

If you need to know anything else, ask away ;-)

Cheers,


Martijn
So you mean the submitted version is only a preview (with 20 levels), but it will eventually be updated to a full version will all 80 levels?

[zvnthynn]

So you mean the submitted version is only a preview (with 20 levels), but it will eventually be updated to a full version will all 80 levels?

i think he meant they gave review sites a preview version with 20 levels. what's available in the app store is the full (or real) version with 80 levels.

[pante]

So you mean the submitted version is only a preview (with 20 levels), but it will eventually be updated to a full version will all 80 levels?

he probably meant that they had sent a preview version (with 20 levels) to beta testers and iphone/ipod touch websites for review.

[arta]

So what happens if the last few levels of the final game are broken but the reviewers give the preview copy a great score cause there was time to polish off a 20 level game than one with 80? :confused:

[BrettArchibald]

If you need to know anything else, ask away ;-)

Have you finalised what the controls will be yet? Will there be a choice of control-methods?

[superbad]

So what happens if the last few levels of the final game are broken but the reviewers give the preview copy a great score cause there was time to polish off a 20 level game than one with 80? :confused:

You put a footnote on the review saying you only played through Level XX out of 80.

I also assume TwoTribes will be sending another full 80 level ad hoc/promocode near release.

[TwoTribes]

he probably meant that they had sent a preview version (with 20 levels) to beta testers and iphone/ipod touch websites for review.

We gave them a preview version with only 20 levels yes. One of the reasons why we did that was because preview versions aren't signed or anything. One could simply rip it without cracking and put it online. It would be a shame to lose a game like that before it even got launched ;-) Hope this makes sense?

[TwoTribes]

So what happens if the last few levels of the final game are broken but the reviewers give the preview copy a great score cause there was time to polish off a 20 level game than one with 80? :confused:
I can assure you that all 80 levels are tweaked and polished to the max :-D Also, we'll send out review copies of the full game, once it's live. So the reviewers will review the full game.

[TwoTribes]

You put a footnote on the review saying you only played through Level XX out of 80.

I also assume TwoTribes will be sending another full 80 level ad hoc/promocode near release.
We'll send out review copies asap once the game goes live. It's in Apple submission right now... so it's a matter of a few weeks now... xing fingers!

[TwoTribes]

Have you finalised what the controls will be yet? Will there be a choice of control-methods?
Hi Brett,

The controls have been tweaked to the fullest and I know you are a supporter of multiple control methods, but we're 100% sure that no other control method would work better than the one we use right now.

If possible send over your UDID and I can get you a preview version of the game, just to see what we mean. I'm confident that you'll like what we've done :-) The original movie showed on TouchArcade was an example of not final controls, things have changed dramatically in that area. In fact I personally feel it works better than the Wii controls... But don't take my word for it, test it yourself! :-D

Cheers,


Martijn

[VoodooVyper]

We'll send out review copies asap once the game goes live. It's in Apple submission right now... so it's a matter of a few weeks now... xing fingers!

May I have a review copy? :D

Just kidding (though I'd love one).
A few weeks for the approval process seems like a bit much, especially for a game under 10mb, is this what Apple told you, or is this your assumption?

[TwoTribes]

May I have a review copy? :D

Just kidding (though I'd love one).
A few weeks for the approval process seems like a bit much, especially for a game under 10mb, is this what Apple told you, or is this your assumption?

Just to be on the safe side (resubmission?)... and of course we need promo time as well ;-)

And for review copies you need to contact Chillingo, they now handle that stuff. Just send me a private message and I'll send you the details!

[VoodooVyper]

Any recent news from Apple? I'm anticipating the release :)

[dannys95]

Just to be on the safe side (resubmission?)... and of course we need promo time as well ;-)

And for review copies you need to contact Chillingo, they now handle that stuff. Just send me a private message and I'll send you the details!

I emailed both Chris and Paul over at Chillingo for a beta a few weeks back. I'll just wait for it to come out and offer to write a review.

[VoodooVyper]

This was recently posted to their twitter: Army of Toki Tori's is about to invade Chillingo...

http://twitter.com/TwoTribesGames

[TwoTribes]

Any recent news from Apple? I'm anticipating the release :)

Nope nothing from Apple yet... I'll keep you posted :D

[greenro89]

Any word yet?? Im itching to play it! Ive heard how people loved it on the wii. It looks like a well polished game.

[freedog]

Taking too long... lol. Its really all on apple though. The game is incredible on the GBC and decent on the Wii... Anyone not sure about this game ... just buy it, I predict it will be one of the greatest iphone puzzle games ever.

[zvnthynn]

http://twitter.com/TwoTribesGames/status/1746810818

omg! after feeling a bit let down by zooloretto (didn't buy it coz of the bugs), this is good news for me! :)

[theone1007]

http://twitter.com/TwoTribesGames/status/1746810818

omg! after feeling a bit let down by zooloretto (didn't buy it coz of the bugs), this is good news for me! :)

WOOOOTTT! Finally, after such a long wait this is the day I was waiting for. Ok, can't wait for it to be released.... today? ;)

[se7en]

why can't people read an 11-message thread? can't they just read the thread and see that the question has been asked, answered and discussed already, all in the first 11 messages?

haha - no sh1t : ) we are all lazy damn it!!

[FilthyCanadian]

WOOOOTTT! Finally, after such a long wait this is the day I was waiting for. Ok, can't wait for it to be released.... today? ;)

I would guess Tuesday, if it hasn't come out already.

[gscal]

I would guess Tuesday, if it hasn't come out already.

And why is that? Why not Sunday or Monday? It might have a Mother's Day release. ;)

[FilthyCanadian]

And why is that? Why not Sunday or Monday? It might have a Mother's Day release. ;)

I dunno, alot of games come out on tuesdays.

I really hope it comes out tonight or tomorrow, I really want it. I just don't see it hapenning.

Something that makes me think that may be releasing it soon, is that they've had no contact on twitter after they said it'd been approved, maybe they're lining up all of their advertising and whatnot.

[gscal]

I dunno, alot of games come out on tuesdays.

I really hope it comes out tonight or tomorrow, I really want it. I just don't see it hapenning.

Something that makes me think that may be releasing it soon, is that they've had no contact on twitter after they said it'd been approved, maybe they're lining up all of their advertising and whatnot.

You've got a good point there. But I think that people visiting TwoTribe's Twitter and reading that it's been approved, and then waiting a few days for the dev to put it on the App Store, aren't going to buy as easily as if the game is in the App Store as soon as it's approved.

[freedog]

Yeah its a good idea to release it right away or no later than a day after being approved. Anyway... where is Two Tribes! Please give us word on whats going on Two Tribes.

[VoodooVyper]

Yeah its a good idea to release it right away or no later than a day after being approved. Anyway... where is Two Tribes! Please give us word on whats going on Two Tribes.

If you read a few pages back, you'll see that they said they are waiting for approval, then they need promo time. Dunno how long promo time takes though :(

[freedog]

If you read a few pages back, you'll see that they said they are waiting for approval, then they need promo time. Dunno how long promo time takes though :(

Yeah I saw it a few days ago...not really trying to hear it though lol. I think we can agree that this game is overdue. They said something like a couple days for promo time, fine I guess but maybe they shoulda not announced that it was approved because now people are getting anxious.

[crimson.]

Yeah I saw it a few days ago...not really trying to hear it though lol. I think we can agree that this game is overdue. They said something like a couple days for promo time, fine I guess but maybe they shoulda not announced that it was approved because now people are getting anxious.
I'm not. Don't see what the hype is about personally. I'll still probably buy it though. Or at least try it cracked. Who knows, maybe it'll be amazing.

[freedog]

I'm not. Don't see what the hype is about personally. I'll still probably buy it though. Or at least try it cracked. Who knows, maybe it'll be amazing.

I'm a big fan of puzzle/adventure and staged puzzle games like Adventures of Lolo, Bobby Carrot for example. I liked Toki Tori for the GBC years ago and I hear the iphone version is even better. The GBC and wii versions were very polished, Two Tribes makes good games, and there aren't too many polished puzzle games for the iphone. So anyway, those who like puzzle games should love this game, but if someone isnt into puzzle games then I can see them not caring too much for Toki Tori.

[VoodooVyper]

They love to tease us:

TwoTribesGamesSo how did we get Toki Tori below the 10 MB limit? Read more: http://bit.ly/xJG3p

From their Twitter.

[arta]

Can't you just tell us the release date, you know, like on every other videogame platform? Are stealth releases supposed to hype us?

[jchampl]

i think the plan is to hand out codes which allow sites like touch arcade to try it out while it hasn't been populated to the store yet, build the hype and then it will be released. I doubt we see it until 3 or 4 sites get their reviews up.

[greenro89]

i think the plan is to hand out codes which allow sites like touch arcade to try it out while it hasn't been populated to the store yet, build the hype and then it will be released. I doubt we see it until 3 or 4 sites get their reviews up.

I just don't get why two tribes would do that... there are tons of sites that have done previews with videos and photos and gave us their impressions of the games. if they do what u think they're gonna do, that's kinda dumb on their behalf. most people who have been waiting have already seen what it's gonna be like and have already heard about the gameplay, controls, and graphics.

[gscal]

I just don't get why two tribes would do that... there are tons of sites that have done previews with videos and photos and gave us their impressions of the games. if they do what u think they're gonna do, that's kinda dumb on their behalf. most people who have been waiting have already seen what it's gonna be like and have already heard about the gameplay, controls, and graphics.

That's true, we've found out a lot about the game from everything you listed. BUT, nothing can compare to actually having someone playing it and giving their own impressions. That is why TwoTribes made a good decision here.

[jFND]

i think the plan is to hand out codes which allow sites like touch arcade to try it out while it hasn't been populated to the store yet, build the hype and then it will be released. I doubt we see it until 3 or 4 sites get their reviews up.

Not at all. Sites get their promotional codes upon the game's release. Though this means we might get 1-2 hours headstart from the other consumers, it doesn't mean that we get to hype the game up before Two Tribes releases the game. Most sites have already received Toki Tori's preview build and written a preview on it. I think as far as hype goes that's where Two Tribes will get it from. Sites "try it out" via preview builds. We don't receive the promo codes and the full retail game until its actually been released onto the App Store.

[freedog]

Not at all. Sites get their promotional codes upon the game's release. Though this means we might get 1-2 hours headstart from the other consumers, it doesn't mean that we get to hype the game up before Two Tribes releases the game. Most sites have already received Toki Tori's preview build and written a preview on it. I think as far as hype goes that's where Two Tribes will get it from. Sites "try it out" via preview builds. We don't receive the promo codes and the full retail game until its actually been released onto the App Store.


Hmm I wonder what's going on then... I came home expecting to download the recently approved game today and instead all I got to see about toki tori was an article about how they kept it under 10 mb and a statement that they will announce a release date soon. Yay I think at this point I'd rather be playing the game then reading stories about it the size of it.

[jFND]

Hmm I wonder what's going on then... I came home expecting to download the recently approved game today and instead all I got to see about toki tori was an article about how they kept it under 10 mb and a statement that they will announce a release date soon. Yay I think at this point I'd rather be playing the game then reading stories about it the size of it.

Best not to wait for it too much; it'll be a longer wait if you do ;)

[jchampl]

Not at all. Sites get their promotional codes upon the game's release. Though this means we might get 1-2 hours headstart from the other consumers, it doesn't mean that we get to hype the game up before Two Tribes releases the game. Most sites have already received Toki Tori's preview build and written a preview on it. I think as far as hype goes that's where Two Tribes will get it from. Sites "try it out" via preview builds. We don't receive the promo codes and the full retail game until its actually been released onto the App Store.

thats not correct, at the site I work at, we get codes frequently this way. 2 codes we have gotten this way off the top of my head recently are IPSX, Rasta Monkey. codes can be generated and redeemed once the app has been approved which toki has. This way provides and easier way then dealing with provisional files. it's also the way I have released my two applications. It's fairly common. but think whatever you want to think. you are correct that provies are much more common, however when a game wants to build press that has already been releasedm this is a way they do it.

[jFND]

thats not correct, at the site I work at, we get codes frequently this way. 2 codes we have gotten this way off the top of my head recently are IPSX, Rasta Monkey. codes can be generated and redeemed once the app has been approved which toki has. This way provides and easier way then dealing with provisional files. it's also the way I have released my two applications. It's fairly common. but think whatever you want to think.

Well I stand corrected. I'm not the type to rebut and "think whatever I want to think" if I've been corrected. Unless I haven't been notified by my co-editors, we haven't received any promotional codes for Toki Tori just yet.

[TwoTribes]

Hi guys,

Time to announce the release date: Toki Tori will be released on Friday the 29th of May 2009!

We need the additional time to setup some promotional actions (more details on that will be announced on Twitter (www.twitter.com/TwoTribesGames) and on our website soon). If you need any more info from us, just ask away! ;-)

Cheers,


Martijn

[zero144]

Hi guys,

Time to announce the release date: Toki Tori will be released on Friday the 29th of May 2009!

We need the additional time to setup some promotional actions (more details on that will be announced on Twitter (www.twitter.com/TwoTribesGames) and on our website soon). If you need any more info from us, just ask away! ;-)

Cheers,


Martijn

Not trying to be rude here but the 29th May! I personally like game devs being active and I appreciate that you keep us informed. I think many people will be disapppointed/angry because this game was so hyped.

[jFND]

Hi guys,

Time to announce the release date: Toki Tori will be released on Friday the 29th of May 2009!

We need the additional time to setup some promotional actions (more details on that will be announced on Twitter (www.twitter.com/TwoTribesGames) and on our website soon). If you need any more info from us, just ask away! ;-)

Cheers,


Martijn

That's still a while away, I guess you guys do need to get your marketing/promotional things together before you release the game.

[don_k]

Hi Martijn, welcome to TA :)

Will there be an intro price for Toki Tori? even for the first 24-hour please?

[TwoTribes]

Not trying to be rude here but the 29th May! I personally like game devs being active and I appreciate that you keep us informed. I think many people will be disapppointed/angry because this game was so hyped.

Thanks for your concern and interest in Toki Tori ;-) Allow me to elaborate on this. Since the iPhone market is flooded with new releases every day, it is important for us to be able to properly support the title when it has been released. So we are currently doing just that, making sure the launch is backed up my a little marketing and that our new Toki Tori website is online.

We made the same mistake with WiiWare as well; we soft launched it and expected the title to sell itself. We were wrong... So we obviously don't want to make that same mistake again and now allow for some time to properly promote the game. Get it under the attention of people out there etc.

Hope this makes any sense?

[TwoTribes]

Hi Martijn, welcome to TA :)

Will there be an intro price for Toki Tori? even for the first 24-hour please?

The price will the 4.99 :)

[don_k]

The price will the 4.99 :)

Thanks for answering my question. Is that the intro price or just normal price?

Also, has the game been approved and all it needs is green light from Two Tribes themselves? are is it still in review?

[TwoTribes]

Thanks for answering my question. Is that the intro price or just normal price?

Also, has the game been approved and all it needs is green light from Two Tribes themselves? are is it still in review?

4.99 will be the price when it hits the AppStore. The game indeed has been approved by Apple and we now need some promo time (see our other post).

Cheers

[theone1007]

Gosh... May 29th. Who cares, this game looks wonderful! Can't wait, glad you know what you're doing with the marketing and everything (even though there's so much hype right now). I'm buying this game right when it enters the App Store, looks like a gem :)

[Big Albie]

I think more devs would do themselves a favor by marketing their games more than they have, and in Toki Tori's case, they're doing it right in delaying the game a bit to do that. Look forward to seeing this.

[gscal]

A delay like this is fine with me, I want you guys to do well for creating such a great game. But please don't delay it like NFS did! :p

[Swordplay]

Should I get this game if I already have it on the GBC and wiiware? Is it going to be exactly like the wiiware version or is new stuff going to be included.

[freedog]

Wow I'm disappointed in the further delayed release date, but remembering that the sales were not be as good as they shouldve been for the gbc or wii, maybe more marketing wouldve helped. Two Tribes is learning from the past...yeah I get it, but the delay has been going on forever already I wanna play this game now :(:(:mad::rolleyes: oh well... I still think the game couldve been released and strongly promoted at the same time, I don't think two tribes has tried that yet either.

[Collo]

Hi all!

It's great to see so much anticipation for Toki Tori. I'm also really happy about people's understanding for our actions. I can tell you we are VERY anxious to see what people's reactions will be to the game. We have put a lot of time and effort into making sure it does the iPhone justice.

One of our promotional activities has just been revealed btw :)

http://www.twotribes.com/?page=log&subpage=detail&id=26

Thanks for the support guys!

Collin van Ginkel

[VoodooVyper]

Those sure look tasty, but I wouldn't call it much of a promotion of your game...
The same people who didn't know about the game, still won't.
I'm sad the game was delayed 20 more days, especially anticipating the "hatching soon" I'vee been seeing since February. I sure hope this pays off for you guys and the hype-machines doesn't produce negative results like it did for CJS.

[Collo]

Those sure look tasty, but I wouldn't call it much of a promotion of your game...
The same people who didn't know about the game, still won't.
I'm sad the game was delayed 20 more days, especially anticipating the "hatching soon" I'vee been seeing since February. I sure hope this pays off for you guys and the hype-machines doesn't produce negative results like it did for CJS.

Since we had not yet announced a solid release date, we weren't considering it a delay ourselves. But we now know it is of high concern to people, and we're very sensitive to this. We'll see what we can do about it.

BTW, the models will be definitely used to get the word out there, keep an eye on our site for more on this :)

[arta]

Oh well :( . Guess I'll be playing Mario vs Donkey Kong GB roms to tide me over.

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[TwoTribes]

Toki Tori is made out of whipped cream:

http://www.twotribes.com/?page=log&subpage=detail&id=26

:D

/edit
Crap... Collo already posted it ;-)

[VoodooVyper]

They're made out of crap!?!? :eek:

[TwoTribes]

News flash -- due to public demand -- the Toki Tori release date has been moved forward to 22nd May!

We'll be announcing a special Toki Tori iPhone/WiiWare competition this Friday to celebrate his upcoming release...

[freedog]

smart move Two Tribes. I was thinking about this last night and I don't think a 3 week long promo period would've had all that positive of an impact on sales. People have already known and been waiting for this game for months, so to force them to wait too much longer after the game has already been approved might irritate a few. I suggest just keep strongly promoting the game after its release. There's already alot of people who have money saved in their accounts for this game. Don't make them wait too long, its no secret that its not easy for most to save credit in their itunes account for too long given the amount of other tempting games in the store.

[TwoTribes]

glad we could be of any help here ;-) Btw watch out for the competition on Friday to see how you can win a super cute Toki Tori figurine! :D

[jack000]

good move, indeed!:D

[theone1007]

Toki Tori figurine! May 22nd! Wow... that just made my day, can't wait til Friday :D

[VoodooVyper]

Sooo if we demand more, will you release it sooner again?!?!
Pretty please?

[TwoTribes]

Sooo if we demand more, will you release it sooner again?!?!
Pretty please?

Hahaha :D Sorry, the 22nd is final... we really need the time to get all promo materials ready... working overtime already :)

[VoodooVyper]

Ah ok, well good luck with that. I'll be here, waiting, following your twitter, slowly whithering away. :p

[TwoTribes]

Ah ok, well good luck with that. I'll be here, waiting, following your twitter, slowly whithering away. :p

Awesome! ;) We'll keep you posted!

[FilthyCanadian]

Awesome, this'll come out next Friday then.

[Prab]

Hehehe yeah, when you say its next Friday, it sounds sooner than saying its on 22nd actually lol.. Can't wait!!!!!

[zvnthynn]

next friday seems a long wait but, luckily, i'll have boulder dash to look forward to this friday. :D

[don_k]

Nooo.. please delay it back to 29th.

I really want this game and my budget for this month almost runs out. If it comes out on the 29th, I can wait for a few days and use next month's budget instead :p

[freedog]

Nooo.. please delay it back to 29th.

I really want this game and my budget for this month almost runs out. If it comes out on the 29th, I can wait for a few days and use next month's budget instead :p

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :mad: shhhh!

[Rocketman919]

News flash -- due to public demand -- the Toki Tori release date has been moved forward to 22nd May!

We'll be announcing a special Toki Tori iPhone/WiiWare competition this Friday to celebrate his upcoming release...

Why so long? Just release it already. I doubt you will get much more promotion than you have already. Your golden time was long ago when the hype was large. It has definitely died down so why not release it now, let all the people who want it buy it, then advertise more? It makes no sense at all to not release it now.

[freedog]

Why so long? Just release it already. I doubt you will get much more promotion than you have already. Your golden time was long ago when the hype was large. It has definitely died down so why not release it now, let all the people who want it buy it, then advertise more? It makes no sense at all to not release it now.

I agree, everyone already knows about this game by now and the few who dont will hear about it quickly after its released. As far as the hype...the game has already been hyped for 2 months! After all the time its gonna start going from "hype" to an "I'm sick of waiting" feeling. Why punish all the people who have already been waiting for the game for so long by not releasing it yet? All in an attempt to create more hype from a small percentage who were born yesterday and haven't heard about the game yet? They'll catch on and buy too. That's how iphone apps work. You release a good app, people buy, they spread word on how good it is, and sales go up and up.

[MacDaddy]

Hmm Toky Toru? what's that never heard about it, please tell me??

:D :D :D :D :D

[TwoTribes]

Hmm Toky Toru? what's that never heard about it, please tell me??

http://www.twotribes.com/tokitori_army.jpg

:D

[Rocketman919]

I agree, everyone already knows about this game by now and the few who dont will hear about it quickly after its released. As far as the hype...the game has already been hyped for 2 months! After all the time its gonna start going from "hype" to an "I'm sick of waiting" feeling. Why punish all the people who have already been waiting for the game for so long by not releasing it yet? All in an attempt to create more hype from a small percentage who were born yesterday and haven't heard about the game yet? They'll catch on and buy too. That's how iphone apps work. You release a good app, people buy, they spread word on how good it is, and sales go up and up.

also, most apps dont even become famous or popular until after a few weeks. Zombieville wasnt very popular when it first came out, only people on here had it, but when enough people pushed it into the top 50 it rocketed to the top.

[freedog]

With all due respect TwoTribes, I know you make good games and all, but I think more people are interested in buying and playing the game ASAP than staring at a bunch of yummy oversized Easter peeps (oh yeah...I mean Toki Tori figurines). I'm still following the game, and I haven't noticed any promotions going on other than "win a Toki Tori figurine" or read a story about how Toki Tori is 10 mb. Cool... Great... Sure
Can we just play the game now?

P.S. What's the deal with the Toki Tori Easter peeps? How many kids under 10 do you think have an iphone?

[VoodooVyper]

Let's not be so harsh to Two Tribes. Give it a rest, guys.
It's their game, they can do what they want with it. I do agree with most of the points on here, but you guys are starting to sound selfish.
Maybe by 'promo-time' they sent out final version to review sites for them to review it. Surely their promo-time isn't fully consisted of just making Toki Tori snacks and stories about how they got it under 10 mb. If it is, then... well... I dunno that'd be a bit of a waste for them because that's time they could've made sales with.

[Prab]

http://www.twotribes.com/tokitori_army.jpg

:D
Haha.. They look great. Can I have (win) one? :-P

I assume they are about palm size.

[Collo]

Hi guys!

I've been lurking for the last few days, and wanted to give you a little insight into how this all works. Perhaps you'll be able to better understand our actions after reading it.

We try to be open, but we cannot communicate everything that's going on. So even though you've only seen some blog entries about the figurines and such, you're not aware of everything that's happening behind the scenes to launch Toki Tori properly. There is a whole team of people working hard to ensure that everything is in place once the game launches. These things are interconnected, even with the game itself, so it's a bit more complicated than just putting the game on the AppStore.

A clear example would be tokitori.com. We actively encourage players from within the game to visit the website if they are in need of hints or tips, which we feel is a cool service to be able to offer to our customers. If you look at the website now, you'll see it is completely Wii-oriented, with not a single mention of the iPhone version. Should we make Toki Tori available now, there are going to be a lot of confused people who will be sent to a Wii site while playing an iPhone game.

There are lots of things like this, some of which we can't share due to NDA's and such, that factor in when making decisions. Rest assured that we are doing the best we can and next friday is a solid date at which you will be able to play Toki Tori.

Thanks for your time!

Collin

[VoodooVyper]

A Toki Tori contest has just been launched:
http://www.chillingo.com/?node=competition

Win iTunes card and figurines. Unsurprisingly, the contests asks you to essentially promote the game by any means possible (namely, on public websites such as myspace, facebook etc).

[dannys95]

A Toki Tori contest has just been launched:
http://www.chillingo.com/?node=competition

Win iTunes card and figurines. Unsurprisingly, the contests asks you to essentially promote the game by any means possible (namely, on public websites such as myspace, facebook etc).

Anyways I'm entering. :D

[TwoTribes]

Anyways I'm entering. :D

Cool! We're looking forward to your submission! :)

[dannys95]

Cool! We're looking forward to your submission! :)

I submitted already. When does the contest end?

[eggzbacon]

Hopefully, on May 22nd, I'm gonna buy 2 games, Toki Tori and Zenonia:)

[TwoTribes]

I submitted already. When does the contest end?

It'll end on June 26th. More info on the contest can be found here:

http://tokitori.com/contest

[dannys95]

It'll end on June 26th. More info on the contest can be found here:

http://tokitori.com/contest

Ouch that's a long time away! I thought it would last a week or so and end close to the time Toki Tori came out. Oh well.

[Collo]

Hi all!

Just a quick message here. We released some screenshots of the final game. You can see the last refinements we've made to the user interface.

They can be seen here: http://www.razorianfly.com/2009/preview-toki-tori/

Thanks for your time!

Collin

[VoodooVyper]

So, it's the 21st. The release date is tomorrow, but what time? Midnight tonight? EST?

[PrivateJoker]

http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=314388744&mt=8

It's out in Australia. Not long to wait now!

[VoodooVyper]

Isn't it the 22nd in AU right now though? I believe the earliest time there is 1 AM, so I'm assuming then it'll come out before 1 AM here on the 22nd, which is good news :D

[pante]

4 hours to wait here in poland... :)

[freedog]

Should come out at around midnight.... I think in the Netherlands (where Two Tribes is) our night is their morning.

[pante]

http://forums.toucharcade.com/showthread.php?t=13603 here is a new thread!

[eggzbacon]

Its OUT!!!

[Kartel]

When was this submitted? I'm trying to estimate the approval time to see how long it would be for Zenonia.