Potential name conflict?

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  1. eJayStudios

    eJayStudios Well-Known Member

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    Hi,

    I want to call my new upcoming game 'Grid Racing'. Apple allowed me to create new app in iTunes connect without problems.

    I googled 'Grid Racing' and game called GRID from Codemasted came up. Quite often in many websites it was mentioned as Grid racing. From what I understand Codemaster has trademark on word Grid.

    Can I run into problems with 'Grid Racing'? I'm not sure why they call their game Grid as there is not much relations to grid from what I can tell.

    My game though is all about racing on grid.

    Any thoughts?
     
  2. MidianGTX

    MidianGTX Well-Known Member

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    I've never heard it being called Grid Racing... it's usually either written as Race Driver: GRID or just GRID, but if they've got a trademark on the word then your name does sound worryingly similar. I'm no expert but it sounds to me like it could go either way. They're reportedly working on a sequel at the moment so they might be more active on chasing up any infringement they come across.

    Oh, and their game is called GRID in reference to the starting grid on a race track ;)
     
  3. eJayStudios

    eJayStudios Well-Known Member

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    #3 eJayStudios, Mar 14, 2011
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    Thanks mate! You probably right, the name is Grid, but because it's about racing it naturally comes up as Grid racing :)

    Regarding trademark on word I'm not so sure, they have TM next to word Grid so I don't know if this for game or word, I'm no expert on those things :confused:

    Edit: ok, looks like they have this: "Race Driver"™ and "Race Driver: Grid"™ are trademarks of Codemasters.

    So looks lie at least in theory I should be safe :)
     
  4. ArtCoder

    ArtCoder Well-Known Member

    If you're having doubts yourself, I'd say it's not safe. Why risk having a problem with Codemasters in the future? Is it really that important that your game includes the word "grid"?
     
  5. eJayStudios

    eJayStudios Well-Known Member

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    To be honest, yes as this word defines gameplay of my game.
     
  6. ArtCoder

    ArtCoder Well-Known Member

    Sorry, but I must say "grid racing" defines nothing to me. I can understand that it may go well with your gameplay, but you should think about what the title says to your potential customers... I'm not sure that name is worth the potential trouble down the line.
     
  7. MidianGTX

    MidianGTX Well-Known Member

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    You could post a few screenshots and see if anyone can come up with another name that you like the sound of? It can't hurt to try :)
     
  8. Moonjump

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    My guess is that you would be OK, and that Codemasters wouldn't do anything about it, but I'm not certain about it.

    As can be seen from recent events, there have been quite a few conflicts recently over intellectual property. The laws have some grey areas, and can vary between countries, and some some will push that, or just use the threat of legal action to make the other side back down.

    I've had several job interviews at Codemasters and they seemed a decent set-up. It might be worth contacting them. You never know, the response may make a decent story for marketing the game.
     
  9. MidianGTX

    MidianGTX Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like a good idea to me. People don't often think to contact someone because they're worried about the response, but if they're going to take action they'll do it regardless of whether or not you talked to them first.
     
  10. eJayStudios

    eJayStudios Well-Known Member

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    Thank you guys! Idea about contacting Codemasters is great! :)

    It's too early to post screenshots though, sorry :)
     
  11. touchten

    touchten Well-Known Member

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    In my honest opinion,
    EVEN after contacting codemaster (which is the right way)

    Please make sure Nobody else owns the Trademark for the name

    "Grid Racing" or "Grid" something...

    And if codemaster reply to you and allowed you to use the name..
    Get a WRITTEN consent... not just email, but signed by authorized party,
    in PDF..

    nowadays trigger-happy big name company can anyhow and anytime
    send a DMCA takedown letter for "Trademark violation"

    a trademark violation can be valid even if your name "confuse" customer to the trademark rights holder..

    just be careful and know your rights!

    Thanks

    Anton
     
  12. apphame

    apphame Well-Known Member

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    why not change to another name?
     
  13. Hercule

    Hercule Well-Known Member

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    #13 Hercule, Mar 16, 2011
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    Codemaster will probably do:
    - Not answer you. ( try to get the guy in charge of this kind of things is probably very hard).
    - Say NO, even if there isn't any valid reason.

    They could say Yes if something push them...like money.
    But there is no reason to give you a permission on anything for free.

    Yous should ask a trademark lawyer, change your name or take a risk.
     
  14. SuperFunApps

    SuperFunApps Well-Known Member

    I agree that if you don't get a written permission (PDF and signed) you're better off re-inventing the name. Who knows, in being forced to re-name it, you could come up with something much more innovative as a name. The name/icon pair are huge in marketing your game!
     

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