Goat Goes Up (by some dude call Jeff Minter)

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    :0 copy Rainbow star girl much?

    Disgraceful

    Nick Marks was the first person to invent the concept of a game where you kiss animals instead of kill things and you went and jacked his concept, in a halved assed way, mind you

    Very dissapointed.
    it's no where near as cool as Rainbow star girl anyway!
    But way to copy the kiss animals concept and alot of the visual effects!

    Rainbow star girl is way more colorful ! I will wait for the real version! Thanks
     
  4. doodlejumper

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    Wait, there are games that directly cloned gameplay on the App Store, two in the last two months that I can think of, and you choose to bag on this? And on Jeff Minter. Trust me, Jeff would not be copying another person's game.

    On a related note, this is my most anticipated release. :)
     
  5. psj3809

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    Bit harsh! You going to whinge about Muffin Knight next being a clone?
     
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    Or maybe Jetpack Joyride for been a cave runner game.
     
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    Pong is just a ripoff of table hockey! Down with the imitations!!!
     
  8. drelbs

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    Totally. But his games do tend to borrow a bit... ;)

    And then there's that Minotron game that looked awful familiar.

    Looking forward to this, whatever it ends up being called. ;)

    PS> Bounty Bob's Donkey Punch! would have been a great Atari 2600 'porn' title. :p
     
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    It's not the fact that this game is a "clone" that I'm annoyed about,

    I don't even think its a full on clone

    I'm just disappointed because about 2 years ago nick marks came up with an absolutely crazy idea (at the time) to create a game where you kiss instead of kill, a sweet litte game for animal lovers, vegans, girls, kids etc.

    And I'd never seen a concept Kiel it before, I was very excited for his release targeting women especially, and think it's a little unfair when someone steals his idea and then goes and releases it before the original is out,

    Now when rainbow star girl comes out people will think..oh naa I already got goatup I don't need another of the same game,,

    And nick has been working so hard on this for years, and even went to E3 to showcase it put his own money into, put his blood sweat and tears into it,
    And then...this.
     
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    I just looked at the trailer for Rainbow Star Girl, and while I see a hint of resemblance, it's not enough to make it a rip off or anything close to it. The gameplay, the graphics, everything really is different. No offense to the dev, but that game doesn't look so hot anyway, lacking a LOT of polish imo. So seriously, if you have nothing serious to say about this awesome game GoatUp here, just get out. No one's agreeing with you.
     
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    #12 psj3809, Sep 13, 2011
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    Thats the way the world works. Look at Muffin Knight, shall we start getting upset by that ?

    I've seen countless games from the 80's re-invented for iOS, kids seem to think theyre original games whereas i think 'ahhh theyve taken that idea from a game in 1985 and slightly changed it....'. Thats the way it works with gaming, a game is successful like Angry Birds, cue 50 or so clones the next few months as people look to cash in on the craze.

    Minter has done some similar clones in the past, look at his first game, very similar to Robotron but its a great nod to the classic game done with superb Minter style. Same for this game. To me its a type of Doodle Jump game, so perhaps the guy above 'stole' the idea for his game from Doodle Jump, dont hear you moaning about that.

    If he had the idea 2 years ago i think it should come to market quicker, games in iOS are released all the time, need to get them out quick. In the last 12 months Minters released four great iOS games.

    Think its annoying if this other game was 'targetting women' ! Sexist ! Thought we were all equal ?!

    But seriously Minters been creating games since the very early 80's, hes famous for creating some 'clone' type games in the past but also for his wacky look and feel to his games with surreal graphics. Hes been in the industry 30+ years, he is a legend and this new game is superb.
     
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    #13 DregsOnLegs, Sep 13, 2011
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    @doodlejumper

    I didnt actually want anyone agreeing, if I wanted to be agreed with I would have come on here sucking up to the dev like you guys are doing!
    Some people always feel the need to go with the pack, in hopes of praise and acceptance, but that's not me here, here I tell my honest opinion, because it's the Internet and I couldn't give a goats nads who agrees or disagrees.

    I said it isn't a clone, the thing that was stolen was the kissing part, which was an original concept by nick marks, made especially to make women, and kids smile, and finally a cute game for animal lovers where you don't kill like the rest of the games.

    The concept was a playful joke-ish kind of thing at the beginning, then it became a fantastic idea,with a wonderfully cute game in development, and thousands of female fans, and now rainbow star girl doesn't seem so unique and fresh since there's already another kissing animals game out beforehand


    On another note, I swear I saw you baggin a dev the other week for making a clone, despite your name being one of the most popular clones around.

    I'm not dissing clones, I'm just disappointed at that one copy cat element of the game, and why did they even need to throw kissing into the game? They could have come up with a different concept I'm sure.

    If I see a YouTube video or some sort of preview for the kissing element before rainbow star girls trailer was released, I will happily delete my comments and focus on the good qualities of this game.
    So Jeff, any video or dated blog proof? Or are you willing to admit the kissing part was inspired by rainbow star girl? Then I will also withdraw my comments
     
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    #14 DregsOnLegs, Sep 13, 2011
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    I understand where your coming from, almost every game is a clone these days, like ninja fishing being heavily inspired by vlambeers game,
    But that didn't annoy me in the slightest,
    I understand that that is the world we live in and nothing will ever stop that.

    But this one game, rainbow star girl, I thought looked so sweet, and I was so proud that a guy finally come forward to make a sweet loving game for once, I've been looking forward to it for like a year, and then when I saw this I felt a bit bad for nick cause he really worked hard to make that game, and to think of the original concept.

    Im not dismissing goat up as a good game, I'm sure it has great elements too, and has many different things that rainbow star girl doesn't have,
    But that one idea, kissing, is what rainbow star girl was fully marketed around,
    It was supposed to be the first ever game, mocking violent games, where you kiss instead of kill.
    But moe that someone else has done it, it's not going to be as successful and unique as it should have been, in my eyes anyway.

    95% of games seem to be marketed towards men, I was finally happy to see one game just for the ladies..

    I guess it doesnt really matter since this game is more of a guys game anyway, I'm sure rainbow star girl will still get the attention it deserves
     
  14. doodlejumper

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    Hey dude, the game is out now. Please stop posting in this upcoming thread and please stop posting at all. I mean come on, To-Fu is like a "non-killing" version of Super Meat Boy, nobody's complaining. And guess what? Muffin Knight and Ninja Fishing had EXACT gameplay copies. This has kissing. Please leave this thread alone.

    And we're not sucking up to the dev, we're seriously excited to play this- make that playing it now. :)

    Can a mod close this up please?
     

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