Plus+ Hidden Awards

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  1. JosephDuffy

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    #1 JosephDuffy, Nov 9, 2009
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    Hey guys,
    Though I'd get a collection of known Plus+ awards which are hidden, E.g, you don't see them unless you've unlocked them.
    Post your own discoveries, and I'll post them here, so all can see. Please post in the format bellow, with the Game, Name, Description and Points Rewarded!
    If you have proof (Such as a screenshot), its status will be confirmed, if not, its status will be unconfirmed.

    Hidden Awards:

    DJ Jones
    Night Vision - Discover Night Vision Mode - 25 Confirmed

    Archon:Conquest
    Complete all, normal and insane - Finish all campaigns on both Normal and Insane settings - 100 Confirmed

    Flick Fishing
    Island Dweller - A bonus just for people who already owned Flick Fishing before this update - 20 Confirmed

    HarborHavox3D
    Music Lover - Keep music on for 10 sessions - 10 Confirmed

    Flick Fishing
    Named Fish - Catch X Fish - Total of 695 More info coming soon, Confirmed

    Any extras or errors, please post back!
    Thanks
    Joseph Duffy
     
  2. zachattacksox

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    Harbor Havoc 3D

    Music Lover: Play 10 sessions with music on. 10 points.
     
  3. JosephDuffy

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    Thanks buddy, I've already got thay one, but forgot to put it the list xD
    Thanks for contributing!
     
  4. kmacleod

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    Hey, welcome to the site :)

    Good idea posting the list; hopefully some awards will be discovered that we don't know about.

    Anyways, don't forget about all of the Named Fish in Flick Fishing! There are 695 hidden points in named fish.
     
  5. JosephDuffy

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    I was going to post the Flick Fishing ones, but I still need 3 of them I'm working on getting those 3, so hopefully, if noone else does in the meantime, I'll be posting them all soon :)
     
  6. Coral

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    How do you get the dizzy block achievement in Topple 2? Sorry for this being a little off topic.
     
  7. JosephDuffy

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    That's fine buddy, I'm thinking of making it a help topic, but I might start anther topic.
    Anyways, simply rotate a block 360Degrees in one movement, use one finger to hold, and the other to "flick" it around sort of thing, just mess around! ;)
     
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    Grab a block and rotate it for a while.
     
  9. coconutbowling

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    I'm kinda pissed. I owned Flick Fishing before the update and didn't get the achievement.
     
  10. yrrebeulb19

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    Having a thread to call these out is a good idea. I really think that having some hidden is a stupid idea. Having secret awards is one thing, but totally hidden ones are lame.
     
  11. kmacleod

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    Was the app currently installed on your iPhone when you updated it? I'm pretty sure you have to have a save file on the device before you install the update in order to get it.

    This is a mistake in my opinion, but it is what the developers decided to do. All it really does is alienate new players and punish people who gained an interest in the game after the update.

    Agreed, I would rather see some awards covered with question marks, rather than this shot-in-the-dark style secret awards thing.

    Hopefully this thread will help alleviate the issue a bit :)
     
  12. Zwilnik

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    You had to have an actual saved game at the point of updating (so first time you played with the Plus+ version and it updated your save game it gives you the achievement). If you owned it previously but had deleted and reinstalled for the update without playing first, you wouldn't get the achievement.

    It's only a few points though, so I wouldn't worry about it and there will be more bonuses for current users in future updates.
     
  13. kmacleod

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    Are you sure you really want that award in the first place? The whole point of achievements is that you're actually supposed to be able to achieve them. As it is, someone who just bought their iPhone last week and really loves all of your games would never be able to earn those points, no matter how much they play. It isn't fair, in my opinion.
     
  14. Zwilnik

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    Absolutely. It's a reward for our loyal players who've been playing the game for a year now. As we're adding new ones for current players to get on future updates, no-one really misses out in the long run but it does prompt gamers to buy the game now rather than later.

    The actual score from that particular achievement is pretty minor, so it's more of a badge of honour than anything else (and similar systems are used in many long running games to reward long term players) and lets them show off the fact they've been playing the game for ages.

    Having said all that, I can't actually remember if we activated that particular achievement in the 1.4 version or not. I remember setting it up, but it may have been disabled in favour of other achievements to make the achievement score total correct :)
     
  15. kmacleod

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    You did, I've unlocked it ;)

    It isn't sour grapes on my part about not being able to get the points - I have the points. I am one of those long term players, and I'm saying that I don't need some sort of points reward for being a long term player. I'd rather be a part of a service that is completely fair and accessible to all users, regardless of when they bought their iPhones.

    The fact that some people DID own Flick Fishing and still didn't earn the award because Flick Fishing happened to not be installed at the time should serve as one of several excellent examples of why this type of award doesn't work.

    And yes, at the end of the day, the 20 or 25 points it is worth don't count for a whole lot. It is the principle of the thing that I don't like. I understand where you're coming from with wanting to encourage early adoption - I just don't agree with you. I see a whole lot of negatives to this type of thing regarding failing to award the bonus to long-term users, degrading the fairness of the Plus+ network, and alienating new users. I really hope you do reconsider.

    Anyways, lets not let this disagreement get in the way of the fact that you just announced that you're working on a new version! I'm just glad to hear you're working on an update; any chance you're ready to announce what you're adding? :D
     
  16. yrrebeulb19

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    Just out of curiosity are you developers allowed to add plus+ awards in updates. How much does Plus+ enforce the amount points you allocate through awards. Maybe I misread it but you made it sound like that was your plan.

    I have found that the awards in plus+ are becoming my favorite feature of the service. It adds a lot of fun and re-playability to go after them.
     
  17. Zwilnik

    Zwilnik Well-Known Member

    Should (Apple submission gods willing) be something announced very soon ;) Nothing major this update, but more coming.
     
  18. JosephDuffy

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    I agree with the whole "Why have hidden awards" thing, "locked" awards would be great, I think they make you keep playing, and trying new things.
    I'm going to make a "Help with Awards" thread, and leave this fully for submitting Hidden Awards, and discussing them.
    For now, goodbye, I'll work on the other thread in the mean time.
    Thanks
    Joseph Duffy
     
  19. coconutbowling

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    I see what you mean and am perfectly ok with it. It's just the fact that it is impossible to get them now. Kind of like a retired achievement.
     
  20. Hammurabi

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    Hey I remember a long tome ago when plusplus was just starting up there was a wordfu achievement, for people who paid for an earlier version, and it being worth 500 POINTS. So is it still there, hidden, or has it been removed? Anyone know anything about it?
     

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