Hiring Chinese?

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  1. pinkandpurple

    pinkandpurple Well-Known Member

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    OH right

    Is it cheap to hire Chinese people in China?

    I suppose Ihave to get a business VISA?
     
  2. macfinch

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    Hi Pink n purple. To outsource in shanghai it might cost you about $4000 USD for one of the more expensive studios. You can get it cheaper with some smaller companies here.

    You don't need a visa to hire a team here. You would just need a business visa if you were here for work / setting up your own business.

    Hope this helps.

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  3. pinkandpurple

    pinkandpurple Well-Known Member

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    Hello

    Oh, thanks howevr I hope to move there.
     
  4. NinthNinja

    NinthNinja Well-Known Member

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    Can you give any links to these companies, please?
     
  5. weilies

    weilies Well-Known Member

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    Well,

    i am not from china :) but i am chinese.
    My advice is dont try subcon to most indian who claim to deliver budget product.
    Coz what i learnt from experience is low budget come with low quality.

    hope that help
     
  6. NinthNinja

    NinthNinja Well-Known Member

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    What I'm really after is outsourcing artwork. I need to find a company that can do 2d pixel artwork. I've found a few companies that can do this but it would be great to have more to choose from.
     
  7. CommanderData

    CommanderData Well-Known Member
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    Have you tried going to forums like pixeljoint.com and wayofthepixel.net? I found great 2d pixel artists from nearly every single country in the world at these sites simply by posting paid job listings in their forums.
     
  8. NinthNinja

    NinthNinja Well-Known Member

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    I did try that but unfortunately the artist that was chosen let me down... I'd rather deal with an outsourcing company that specialises with pixel artwork that can set a completion time and pricing - really just getting the job done in a professional manner.
     
  9. CommanderData

    CommanderData Well-Known Member
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    I'd agree its a bit hit-or-miss and found some people to be lazy, rude, or unprofessional at these sites. On the other hand, I have also found a handful of very competent artists who are fairly priced and eager to please. Wish I could share names with you now, but I still need the guys that are working for me (and have been for the last year or more!) :D

    Fair warning for anyone attempting to do any outsourcing I suppose... Do your homework! Even if you've got what would seem to be a reputable "company" you might not get quality results.

    Final thoughts for the OP- don't look for the cheapest possible labor to take advantage of. It will come back to haunt you. Ripped sprites and copied graphics, poorly written code that barely works... I have heard of all of these things happening to people, including to members of these forums :eek:
     
  10. jogo

    jogo Well-Known Member

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  11. macfinch

    macfinch Member

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    There's quite a few here in Shanghai that have done good work. I know a couple of the smaller outsourcing companies that I can introduce you to (usually the larger ones won't take on smaller projects). Send me an email at martin 'at' cobaltjungle.com and I'll send an intro to you.

    All the best
    M
     
  12. pinkandpurple

    pinkandpurple Well-Known Member

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    Thanks
    But

    I think the thread is misunderstood that I am looking to move to China to hire people in my own company and so I UM need an knowledge of business visa
     
  13. nantas

    nantas Well-Known Member

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    Hi, the original post sounds like you are going to China to find cost efficient labors. I guess that's why replies are more about "you can find a good deal in other way", or "be aware of cheap cost leading to poor quality".

    But if you're going to move to China and do business no matter what, it's another story. Then you do need a visa first.

    I'm no expert but it seems like you need a Business (F) Visa or Employment/Work (Z) Visa or Resident (D) Visa to be able to register your business in China.

    Business Visa is a short term visa so if you apply that you will need to get other kind of resident permit once you get there.

    Again ask a professional for those tricky business! ;p
     

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