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Old 04-14-2012, 05:25 PM
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the game is still awesome but sometimes the great memory feelings when i played on pc version is just missing. the great shooting atmosphere of bullet time is just not there. i don't know, perhaps if they fix the control later then i can start all over to try it. for know its just better for me to keep it on my iPad and wait for the next update.

and take this video as an example how max payne gameplay experience supposed to be. its all about the control.


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ps. as you can see from the video. the dev lower the effects a bit even on the iPad 3. light mapping is there but not as good as on pc version/ps version. the bullet trail missing, character shadow don't exist not even blob shadow. camera movement smooth enough but not a butter smooth and sometime even drops when use bullet time and try to targeting on enemy.
What that video shows me is how much of the Max Payne experience the iOS version actually captured. It also make it clear why I'm enjoying this playthrough more than my last one a few years ago.

Basically, what you see on that video is a speedrun: the player knows exactly where every enemy will come from and he's placing his shots before they appear on screen. Frankly, that's how I play the game on the PC. That is not how the game is meant to be played: firefights are supposed to be chaotic, bewildering, go-for-broke. Bullet-time is supposed to be there to slow things down so you can make sense of the chaos. As Max says in the game (just as he goes into the Cogniti mansion), control is just an illusion. I find that on the iPhone I'm playing more in that spirit, and I'm having a heck of a lot of fun doing it.

BTW, there are bullet trails when you jump-dodge.
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Old 04-14-2012, 07:21 PM
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Wow, I'm seriously impressed with how fun this game is. Didn't play it back in the day, but something just clicks. 9mm was fun for what it was, but I'm glad the iOS community is getting the chance to enjoy more quality games like this. Here's to more great ports!
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Old 04-14-2012, 11:19 PM
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I'm actually really impressed with how Rockstar handled this. Having not played GTA3 Mobile, I expected a game with a low frame rate, bad lag, and mediocre graphics. It turned out not to be any of the above, at least not enough for me to complain.

Although, I'd really like iCloud support. I'm getting a new iPad in a few weeks, and would like to try Max Payne on it...
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Old 04-15-2012, 02:46 AM
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The way the app store allows updates is cool of course. Bug fixes and so on. But on the PS2 you got what you got and learned to live with the game in whatever state it was released. I quite like the way it was. Every thread on this forum has some poor dev implementing features that weren't in his own game just to keep people happy.

Obviously there are some games that benefit from some constructive criticism but I've seen armchair critics complaining about a $1 game's icon and think...jeez give the guy a break!
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Old 04-15-2012, 07:09 AM
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Bought this a couple of days ago, and just started playing it now. I have never played the max Payne series before, and this is what I have to say.
IMO I like 9mm more... But in terms of storyline I'd have to go with Max Payne. If 9mm got a retina display update, I'd honestly delete this and redownload that.
My opinion.
But yes, this is worth the $3 I spent on it.
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Old 04-15-2012, 07:46 AM
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sorry for my bad english, what i meant was shell casing not bullet trail
my biggest complained is control, besides that everything are okay. i think the controls is the main part where its missing its experience. what I'm trying to say from the video is how easy the player can dodge the enemy bullet and take the action forward to bullet time and how easy he can aimed at the enemy. precise control and move target while shoot are all that i asked.

ps. at this point i can say that war drum studios should implement what gameloft did with 9mm (in their own style of course). again sorry for my very bad english
Don't worry about the English -- it's fine. And I definitely miss the shell casings, too -- as I mentioned earlier, the sound of a shotgun shell hitting the floor was iconic. And I'm definitely not saying that the controls couldn't be improved (or that it's a bad idea to improve them).

The thing to keep in mind about that video is that the player clearly has the levels memorized. You can tell: he sits in wait behind the couch after killing the Finito brothers because he knows that more goons will be coming out from the door. That's how I play the PC version now, but that's not how I played it in my first couple of playthroughs. My point is that I'm appreciating the iOS version because it feels more chaotic -- more like the first time I played the game over a decade ago.

Again, I'm not defending the current control scheme, just appreciating it .
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Old 04-15-2012, 08:23 AM
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Don't worry about the English -- it's fine. And I definitely miss the shell casings, too -- as I mentioned earlier, the sound of a shotgun shell hitting the floor was iconic. And I'm definitely not saying that the controls couldn't be improved (or that it's a bad idea to improve them).

The thing to keep in mind about that video is that the player clearly has the levels memorized. You can tell: he sits in wait behind the couch after killing the Finito brothers because he knows that more goons will be coming out from the door. That's how I play the PC version now, but that's not how I played it in my first couple of playthroughs. My point is that I'm appreciating the iOS version because it feels more chaotic -- more like the first time I played the game over a decade ago.

Again, I'm not defending the current control scheme, just appreciating it .
Not sure I understand where you're coming from. You still know where the goons are, don't you? So, a different control scheme shouldn't prevent you from sitting behind the couch and waiting for the other goons all the same.
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Old 04-15-2012, 08:46 AM
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Not sure I understand where you're coming from. You still know where the goons are, don't you? So, a different control scheme shouldn't prevent you from sitting behind the couch and waiting for the other goons all the same.
I do, and I can. But with the generous auto-aim and looser controls, I find myself playing more like I did the first time. Not saying that my reaction is completely rational .
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Old 04-15-2012, 09:25 AM
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I love this game. I remember playing this on the PC years ago, then the Xbox version later down the road. Still a great game and shows why 9mm by Gameloft is a complete and utter trash of a game. Controls are fine once I changed a couple of things like tap to shoot and inverted, still not as smooth as the Xbox or PC versions, but playing this on an iPad 2 on the road is a blast.

By the way, this game is free on freemyapps.com for those looking to get it, which is how I got it. It's a legit site in which they even worked with Apple to have Apple's apps on there
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Old 04-15-2012, 11:20 AM
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Just finished. Fun ride despite already discussed control issues.

Now onto Max Payne 2 on my PC.
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