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Old 08-07-2012, 01:21 AM
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We are about to release a word game and the name expired on us. We have the trademark in several countries for that game and i simply thought it would be easier to call the app xyz TM instead of haggling with apple to get the name back?

My question really is how do I get the real TM symbol at the back of the app? The small TM symbol?

Anyone needing a trademark Wendy will look after you and go to bat when issues arise. We built this app with her.

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/trademark/id448024488?mt=12

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Old 08-07-2012, 06:11 AM
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Look for the the ascii characters in tables

these should work correctly with app names on appstore: (copy/paste as needed)
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Old 08-07-2012, 08:51 AM
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Claiming it as a mark is necessary if you ever want to defend that mark. It isn't pointless, but it is a lot weaker than actually registering a mark.
Is this accurate? My understanding is that strictly legal speaking (R) isn't any stronger than TM. It makes sense however that if you should ever end up in a legal battle that a registered trademark would be easier to defend, simply because it would be easier to document the ownership/date of the trademark.
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Old 08-07-2012, 09:15 AM
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When I once investigated this, if a TM is displayed then it is an indication that a trademark has been applied for. You may only display R if it was granted. This was a few years ago. I could be incorrect on any of this...It is the owners responsibility to defend infringements too.
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Old 08-07-2012, 12:41 PM
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(R) can only be used for Registerd trademarks
Otherwise TM can be used

From what I recall since the last time I did research on this, TM should be used for names/logos which may in the future become officially registered, because whichever company/owner claimed trademark first (by using the TM symbol) will get precedence over disputes arising from unregistered claims

Everyone can use TM symbols everywhere, but only Registered trademark owners have any real claim over them.
Which means, displaying TM is not legally secure and cannot be considered a replacement for actually registering

Fair warning:
I'm not a lawyer either
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Old 08-07-2012, 10:48 PM
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Companies like trademarking long phrases, like slogans. That's fine.

But appStore names should be kept short, like one or two words, otherwise, the
text isn't going to fit next to your app icon.

And I think it's pointless to try to trademark a short name, because you can't
stop people from using common everyday words. With over a half million apps,
I think it's pointless.
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Old 08-08-2012, 12:28 AM
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I think everyone is missing the point of adding a TM OR (R) It does allow devs to register
to the point names that are already used.

Even though the developer doesn't have that IP name protected. Some companies are getting great app names this way. Also it makes the app seem official.

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Old 08-08-2012, 02:35 AM
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I don't think anyone finds it to be...gentlemanly. I know the store is hard but I for one would rather lose app name then find one that way.

The file name is to inform the player of the file name. It assist them in finding the game, both on desktop and AppStore.

The only use for those symbols would be in a search filter, to not display any files containing spam characters :-D
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Old 08-09-2012, 05:57 AM
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Default Trademarks

As PikPok said, there's a big difference between the (TM) and the (R) symbol. See http://lahserpatent.com/tm-symbol/ for some details.

We actually went through the process of applying for a registered trademark (the R symbol) for our Pig Rush game. It's very slow (takes almost a year) and costs money, but it could be useful if you're concerned about people infringing on your app name. It's easier to get app stores or social networks to remove copycat games if you have a trademark registration. Also you get an awesome certificate with a golden stamp http://www.reigndesign.com/blog/its-...red-trademark/

That said, unless your brand is already very famous, I can't see much advantage in putting the (TM) or (R) actually in the brand name. Only 3 apps in the US top 100 use (R) http://www.appannie.com/top/
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