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Big File Sizes and Constant Updates Complaint Thread!!!

11-02-2012, 08:25 PM
#11
Joined: Jun 2009
Location: London, UK
Posts: 3,768
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Originally Posted by EfratBarTal View Post
I don't think that this is the real issue here. Fast Internet connections are everywhere and there aren't that many updates to the really big games.

i actually LOVE big, beefy games, (like any Gameloft premium game) (and even some freemium games, what the heck). my complaint is connected to the fact that my device has only puny 16gigs. My decision to get a device of this size 2 years ago was one of my biggest mistakes, i should have gone for the bigger storage model but, of course, these would have been filled quickly too, so to my thought, the problem is that there is no external storage on iPhones. one of the very VERY few drawbacks to any of these Apple devices.

SD cards are so cheap, almost a dime a dozen (around $25US for a 32GBer in the stores where i live) just imagine the possibilities of having so much space available. hotswap those cards and you could have basically unlimited storage. But this is not possible of course. PURELY apple's fault. They CAN put a slot into their devices (no matter what they claim) but they just prefer not to do so.
I've never wanted more space on any of my devices. People like to kid themselves into thinking they can realistically play 100 games at once, but they can't. The biggest issue is with games you can't backup a save file for, otherwise it'd be fine to keep 10-20 games on your device and shuffle/delete/resynch/redownload as required.
11-04-2012, 03:23 AM
#12
Joined: Mar 2011
Location: Tel-Aviv
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Originally Posted by MidianGTX View Post
I've never wanted more space on any of my devices. People like to kid themselves into thinking they can realistically play 100 games at once, but they can't. The biggest issue is with games you can't backup a save file for, otherwise it'd be fine to keep 10-20 games on your device and shuffle/delete/resynch/redownload as required.
it's true, most people can't play 100 games at once, the same way they can't listen to 20GB of music at once, or view 10000 images at once. But having the OPTION to play a particular single game out of a hundred at any one time is worth quite a lot. You know that feeling of "I'm in the mood for playing game X right now.. but, oh wait, I had to delete it to make space for game Y, which I don't want to play right now". I guess it's just a different psyche.

Also, not all this space is for games, some of it goes to movies, and other types of media, and we all know how expensive in terms of storage space are HD movies shot with the iphone. Having many songs and *.Wav samples on any of my music-making apps (GarageBand, FL studio mobile, etc) does take a lot of space, i noticed.

I can't fit everything all the time, but having a storage card slot will sure help close in on that.

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11-04-2012, 06:54 AM
#13
Joined: Apr 2012
Location: Illinois
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I feel your pain. I like to use my iPad to play workout videos and theres only space for two with all the other stuff I have on there. I do appreciate how i can redownload an app without buying it again. This helps me switch games in and out with only the time it takes to download. Its also great if something goes wrong. It turns it from being a huge hassle into a minor annoyance.

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11-04-2012, 03:33 PM
#14
Joined: Apr 2010
Location: California, USA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EfratBarTal View Post
it's true, most people can't play 100 games at once, the same way they can't listen to 20GB of music at once, or view 10000 images at once. But having the OPTION to play a particular single game out of a hundred at any one time is worth quite a lot. You know that feeling of "I'm in the mood for playing game X right now.. but, oh wait, I had to delete it to make space for game Y, which I don't want to play right now". I guess it's just a different psyche.

Also, not all this space is for games, some of it goes to movies, and other types of media, and we all know how expensive in terms of storage space are HD movies shot with the iphone. Having many songs and *.Wav samples on any of my music-making apps (GarageBand, FL studio mobile, etc) does take a lot of space, i noticed.

I can't fit everything all the time, but having a storage card slot will sure help close in on that.
I totally agree with you. That's the way I feel. With games constantly getting bigger, why doesn't Apple make devices with more than 64 GB? How many years have they been churning out device after device without increasing that specific upgrade? No, I don't wanna 'rent' space in the cloud! Memory cards would be good to have, but I'm fine with paying more to have more space out-of-the box. I have different media on my unit and I feel like I should be able to buy the high-end one if I want it and can buy it. Sorry, man, but 64 GB is SO yesterday it's not even funny. Apple needs to get with it!

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11-04-2012, 08:11 PM
#15
Joined: May 2012
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Ok, here's my beef for today...

Goal:
Upgrade to ios 6.0.1 from 6.0
Delete Fifa 12
Upload Nova 3

Simple, or so I thought. I have a fast wifi n line.

How long did it take??? Over 3 hours! What the heck!

I realize the 2 programs were 2 gb monsters, but the upgrade to ios was only 70 mb.

The whole time, my new ipad is stuttering, almost crashing, and gasping for air!

This madness has to stop! If all of my apps were these 2gb monsters, I would go crazy!
11-04-2012, 08:57 PM
#16
Joined: May 2012
Location: USA
Posts: 6,714
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Originally Posted by Connector View Post
Ok, here's my beef for today...

Goal:
Upgrade to ios 6.0.1 from 6.0
Delete Fifa 12
Upload Nova 3

Simple, or so I thought. I have a fast wifi n line.

How long did it take??? Over 3 hours! What the heck!

I realize the 2 programs were 2 gb monsters, but the upgrade to ios was only 70 mb.

The whole time, my new ipad is stuttering, almost crashing, and gasping for air!

This madness has to stop! If all of my apps were these 2gb monsters, I would go crazy!
Having hundreds of apps eats up ram. Delete half of em and thank me later once you finish sobbing. Use the space for movies or photos.
11-04-2012, 09:18 PM
#17
Joined: May 2012
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Originally Posted by JBRUU View Post
Having hundreds of apps eats up ram. Delete half of em and thank me later once you finish sobbing. Use the space for movies or photos.
Well, it is past 7 pm, and Nova 3 still hasn't installed yet! So yeah, I am sobbing, getting close to the 4 hour mark now...

When you say ram, you talking about memory, or disk space?

I assume you mean memory, why would deleting apps affect my memory? Can't I just close all apps, and my memory be ok?

And I never watch movies on my ipad due to disk space. Movies are huge! Can take up to 4 gb for a 2 hour movie! That makes me cringe when I think about it.

Photos got about 500 mb of art and backgrounds and pictures. While I would like to allocate more space to videos and photos, I try to keep it very small, so not even any porn, haha.

I only have 700 apps on my ipad or so... It seems ok overall, but whenever I install these 2 gb monsters, it can take over an hour to install. Is this normal? Can I get it to install any faster? When my disk space was more empty, it did seem faster to load the 2 gb monsters, but nowadays, it seems to take over an hour. And the whole time, my new ipad chugs and stutters...

Makes me want to pull my hair out.
11-04-2012, 10:14 PM
#18
Joined: May 2012
Location: USA
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Originally Posted by Connector View Post
Well, it is past 7 pm, and Nova 3 still hasn't installed yet! So yeah, I am sobbing, getting close to the 4 hour mark now...

When you say ram, you talking about memory, or disk space?

I assume you mean memory, why would deleting apps affect my memory? Can't I just close all apps, and my memory be ok?

And I never watch movies on my ipad due to disk space. Movies are huge! Can take up to 4 gb for a 2 hour movie! That makes me cringe when I think about it.

Photos got about 500 mb of art and backgrounds and pictures. While I would like to allocate more space to videos and photos, I try to keep it very small, so not even any porn, haha.

I only have 700 apps on my ipad or so... It seems ok overall, but whenever I install these 2 gb monsters, it can take over an hour to install. Is this normal? Can I get it to install any faster? When my disk space was more empty, it did seem faster to load the 2 gb monsters, but nowadays, it seems to take over an hour. And the whole time, my new ipad chugs and stutters...

Makes me want to pull my hair out.
Well, it also has to do with wifi speed but it doesn't take me any 4 hours do download GTA 3 or NOVA 3 or Max Payne. More like 20 minutes max.

When I say RAM, I'm talking random access memory, not disk space. You can never have too much of it, I'm not going to go into a huge explanation but it basically keeps your device running smoothly by temporarily caching information. App icons are cached into the ram just like the OS, so they slowly eat it up and can eventually (700 apps???? Jeez dude that's a ton) slow your device down. Currently I have about 55 apps installed including the default iOS ones like iMessage, with 500-600 mb of RAM free with no apps open and 700+ free upon a reboot. I would strongly recommend you cringe, close your eyes and delete about 500 of those apps. Surely you don't use all 700! Just redownload what you need as needed, keep the big ones that don't have iCloud saves and you like (like GTA 3 for me). You will definitely see a noticeable performance boost. Then use that extra space for 5 movies or lots of music or serious photo editing or whatever.
11-05-2012, 04:47 PM
#19
Joined: May 2012
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Originally Posted by JBRUU View Post
Well, it also has to do with wifi speed but it doesn't take me any 4 hours do download GTA 3 or NOVA 3 or Max Payne. More like 20 minutes max.

When I say RAM, I'm talking random access memory, not disk space. You can never have too much of it, I'm not going to go into a huge explanation but it basically keeps your device running smoothly by temporarily caching information. App icons are cached into the ram just like the OS, so they slowly eat it up and can eventually (700 apps???? Jeez dude that's a ton) slow your device down. Currently I have about 55 apps installed including the default iOS ones like iMessage, with 500-600 mb of RAM free with no apps open and 700+ free upon a reboot. I would strongly recommend you cringe, close your eyes and delete about 500 of those apps. Surely you don't use all 700! Just redownload what you need as needed, keep the big ones that don't have iCloud saves and you like (like GTA 3 for me). You will definitely see a noticeable performance boost. Then use that extra space for 5 movies or lots of music or serious photo editing or whatever.
Yeah, I am going to have to some serious thinking about this and some research. I never thought about the icons, and now since they are retina, the size of all the icons on the ram, probably would be a factor since I got 724 apps on my new ipad.

But you are right, I would start crying if I had to delete 500 of them, but maybe I should try first to get below 500 for now.

So all your 2 gb games download and install in 20 minutes? It's taking about one and a half hours on a fast wifi line. So there must be something wrong with my situation.

And when you install these 2 gb monsters, are you still doing stuff on your ipad? Or do you let it just do its thing? I often wondered if you are doing stuff like on the web or games, this would probably slow down the download and install right?

Just so hard deleting stuff cause most of the stuff doesn't have icloud.

But man, got to do something, installing 6.0.1, deleting fifa, and installing nova 3 took me 4.5 hours, and my ipad was lagging and freezing like crazy.

Ok, I am going to try to get down to less than 500 apps on my ipad. Man will take some time to sort through all those apps. Apphoading is not sexy, when you have to delete so many apps. Sigh...
11-06-2012, 12:33 AM
#20
Joined: May 2012
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Originally Posted by MidianGTX View Post
I've never wanted more space on any of my devices. People like to kid themselves into thinking they can realistically play 100 games at once, but they can't. The biggest issue is with games you can't backup a save file for, otherwise it'd be fine to keep 10-20 games on your device and shuffle/delete/resynch/redownload as required.
Yeah, that is true, now that jbruu wants me to delete 500 games off my new ipad, not being able to save game saves is now my #1 gripe for today.

Man what happened to icloud? It was supposed to be our savoir, but in reality, not so much...