Video production

[klo]

Originally Posted by mr.Ugly

a bit off topic but whats the point of using kamcord with such terms?

The goal with our terms of use is just to make sure that we can share these videos as broadly as possible to help drive more game downloads. We really believe that engaging gameplay videos get people to buy more apps. The more broadly we can spread that video content, the more potential users will be likely to be exposed to your apps.

Incidentally, this is not that different from YouTube's terms of service: http://www.youtube.com/static?gl=US&template=terms

[LinQsta]

Supercool creative starts at $5000.

[LinQsta]

Originally Posted by mr.Ugly

a bit off topic but whats the point of using kamcord with such terms?

To me, it's not a question of what's the point but who'd want to? I've never seen a more legal way of articulating "we at kamcord will do whatever the f we want with your vid and exploit it for all it's worth".

[Eclectic]

We make our own mostly. Any compact camera now will take HD footage. And game companies surely have lots of creativity! Here are some that we made:

Talking donkey loose in Silicon Spa: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFeefRJ6WYA
Stunt: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X50_A-lQjIY
Blowing up an iPad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHJSR_XTd2w
Me, dancing!: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s49bPnL9gf4

As you can see, we have fun!
None of our videos has gone viral yet. One day we will succeed.

Finally here is a "fan's" birthday message to us: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3v3rXeieZaM

[klo]

Originally Posted by LinQsta

To me, it's not a question of what's the point but who'd want to? I've never seen a more legal way of articulating "we at kamcord will do whatever the f we want with your vid and exploit it for all it's worth".

Sorry to hear you feel that way, LinQsta. What we've really tried to do is to work with our developers to figure out how to promote their content to drive more app downloads and installs. We're not taking anyone's game content and charging users to watch it; we're simply making it as easy as possible to share gameplay content to build an ecosystem of developers and gamers who enjoy gaming and want to discover more cool stuff. We can't distribute that content without a license, but as you can see, it's non-exclusive -- you and your users still own anything you create.

Happy to explain further if it would help, but I promise we're the good guys!!!

[mr.Ugly]

how do you obtain the captured footage?

[klo]

Originally Posted by mr.Ugly

how do you obtain the captured footage?

I'm just a humble BD guy, so unfortunately, I couldn't give you the full technical explanation. However, if you take a look at our documentation (http://kamcord.com/documentation/), I think you'll get a great sense of how Kamcord could work in your mobile game.

Also feel free to shoot us a note at hello (at) kamcord (dot) com -- I can put you in touch with our client-side expert, who could give you the full nitty-gritty.

[mr.Ugly]

well my question was not made properly.. with you i actually meant you guys.. but i looked briefly over the docs and it seems any video gets automatically send to you guys..

this and the terms make this tool a big no go for me and should be for pretty much anyone who even cares abit about his data..

anyway.. good luck with your offering..

[klo]

Originally Posted by mr.Ugly

well my question was not made properly.. with you i actually meant you guys.. but i looked briefly over the docs and it seems any video gets automatically send to you guys..

this and the terms make this tool a big no go for me and should be for pretty much anyone who even cares abit about his data..

anyway.. good luck with your offering..

Yes, we do store a copy of every video. This is primarily because we enable sharing via Twitter and email, and we need to host the video since neither of those services can do that. We want to make sure all of your users can share their videos as broadly as possible, and that's why we provide free hosting to all games that partner with us.

But please let me know if I'm missing the point! Would you prefer to host the videos yourself?

[JasonS]

Originally Posted by mr.Ugly

well my question was not made properly.. with you i actually meant you guys.. but i looked briefly over the docs and it seems any video gets automatically send to you guys..

this and the terms make this tool a big no go for me and should be for pretty much anyone who even cares abit about his data..

anyway.. good luck with your offering..

What would be worst case scenario that could occur from giving away "gameplay" video of your game? I plan on using kamcord, but your opposition to these particular terms has made me wonder your reasonings? When u say "anyone who cares about his data", do u mean anyone who cares about where video of their game will be displayed? That's the only "data" the gain afaik.

Having each video recorded sent to their server seems like a great service too.
It's only gameplay video, and the dev can select what partitions of the game are recordable. Please explain your reasonings, so I can decide whether kamcorder is the right option for us. From my perspective it's a great option, am I missing something?