01-15-2013, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by trystero View Post
This is *only* true if they meet the KS goal. Otherwise it will be a totally separate app.

If you read the full statement, SW2 will be releasing regardless of what happens on KS, but if KS fails it will just launch as separate app and people need to buy it again.
I wonder how many existing Small World app owners that had bought all their IAP last time round will do so again?

Disclaimer: I bought Small World and all its IAPs, so I am monitoring its developments.
01-16-2013, 08:50 AM
I am not sure that's right. I think in reading it again that they are releasing as a 2.0 update either way. However the expansion to more than 2 players will be an IAP.

Having said that, I think this KS is going to fail. The digital rewards aren't all that compelling. The only compelling ones are the physical game bonuses, and not only are they expensive levels, but people interested in that stuff may not have any interest in an iOS game at all, due to not having an iOS device. Plus for people interested in the iOS game, it will be cheaper to just buy the app now and get the update later (if the KS succeeds). And if the KS doesn't succeed you haven't really lost anything. You could pay more for the KS and if it succeeds it means that you will have paid more than the people that didn't back the KS. If it doesn't succeed, everybody pays the same. In no way can a KS backer pay less. There are some bonuses I don't really understand, though. Maybe they are worth it (I have never played the game, so I don't know what they mean).

There's one thing that could make it succeed, and that's Android users. If they back it in the hopes of getting it on Android, that could do it, but they are taking a chance. They might end up with just an iOS version.

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01-16-2013, 09:31 AM
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Having said that, I think this KS is going to fail.
Solid board game projects don't do too badly on KS, and I do think this will probably follow in that vein (especially given that DoW is involved), despite all the histrionic whining from heavyset neckbearded BGG-dwelling manchildren. Unfortunately, KS projects often don't draw in money linearly, so while they are pretty much at 20% basically within the first day, I agree this isn't a guarantee that they'll reach their end goal. I have a feeling they will, though.

The only reason to go in for the pledges for the digital version (other than to support the project, naturally) is if you want the three KS-exclusive digital races and powers ($30 level), but even if you don't buy those, you still get access to them if you play against anybody who did buy them.

I'm not interested in the physical rewards, personally; iOS boardgames have pretty much replaced physical ones for me, being infinitely cheaper and much more convenient in most circumstances (assuming a digital version exists, of course). On that note, I would back a KS dedicated to bringing Arkham Horror and expansions to iOS. Do it do it do it do it do it. :P

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There's one thing that could make it succeed, and that's Android users. If they back it in the hopes of getting it on Android, that could do it, but they are taking a chance. They might end up with just an iOS version.
I suspect that the "mystery platform" they're currently looking at for SW2 will be Steam, given that they already have TtR there. DoW haven't been big on pursuing Android in the past, but I'm sure they'd look at expanding that way if they could be reassured that 90% of the copies people would be playing weren't going to be pirated ones.
01-16-2013, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by iPadisGreat View Post
I wonder how many existing Small World app owners that had bought all their IAP last time round will do so again?

Disclaimer: I bought Small World and all its IAPs, so I am monitoring its developments.
I'm one of those that bought all the expansions happily. Would I buy the potential land expansions? If they were bundled into one IAP, yes. Three separate ones, no. I'd only be interested in the 5 player map only if that were the case. My only issue I ever had with the game was the lack of land (and ultimately why I deleted despite the small file size...the small map got pretty boring after a while).

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01-17-2013, 04:44 PM
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New update: If the KS hits $300k, SW2 will be coming to Android tablets and the Kindle Fire (the "mystery platforms").
01-18-2013, 02:03 AM
Wow, I'm actually really hype for this update! What I'm not too thrilled on is the kickstarter rewards. I like small world, but not enough to drop down $30 for the all-out ios version (which could probably buy my the actual board game instead). Still, good for them.

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01-18-2013, 05:24 AM
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Wow, I'm actually really hype for this update! What I'm not too thrilled on is the kickstarter rewards. I like small world, but not enough to drop down $30 for the all-out ios version (which could probably buy my the actual board game instead). Still, good for them.
Especially when two of the IAP (cursed and great dames) are already available in the current version. Unless the be not afraid expansion costs 19 dollars you're paying over double. You also get three kickstarter exclusive powers but that's not easy to price.

I already own the ios game so the 30 dollar tier isn't worth much since I'm only getting the expansions and is powers.

Since the 15 dollar tier is only the game and ks powers it's worthless, cause I'd only get the ks powers. I'd still have to buy the expansions at an additional cost.

I could donate 3 bucks but there is no incentive at all.


So I'm buying both of the current expansions for 2 dollars each. They get more than three bucks and I at least get something of value for it.
01-18-2013, 06:38 AM
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I already own the ios game so the 30 dollar tier isn't worth much since I'm only getting the expansions and is powers.
Three new powers and three new races that are all KS-exclusive, as well as the three expansions (and any/every other expansion that gets slated for digital translation as the KS progresses).

Still not necessarily worth $30, though, especially not for people who already own Small World and the current expansions. DoW should consider also throwing in a copy of Ticket to Ride at the $30 level while they're working on winning over a new generation of iPad gamers.
03-12-2013, 10:46 AM
The Small World 2 kickstarter is back from the dead, and makes more sense now. It has a level for people who already have the game and one for those who don't (and some other levels). Plus there's add-ons for bonuses, physical and virtual:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/...d-2-the-return
03-12-2013, 11:09 AM
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I agree. This looks worthwhile supporting now for iPad owning fans.

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