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01-18-2013, 11:31 PM
#61
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Originally Posted by syntheticvoid View Post
Ha... Yeah, sadly, I'm the only one who voted for it. =o/
We need to make 2 games game of the week this was one of them that's for sure plus I get to play the first one as well
01-22-2013, 02:56 AM
#62
Joined: Aug 2010
Location: Tokyo, Japan
Posts: 272
Sigh sob.. here comes the rant..

Two weeks have past and not a shadow of a piece of news about FCX has appeared on the front page of TA.. and now the rankings are really starting to drop.

All major mobile gaming sites almost completely ignored the game (except from The App Shack, thanks to syntheticvoid 8)

This is a major smack on our face that pretty much tells us that self-publishing has become a joke.

It's ridiculous to see TA's front page covered with news about Temple Run 2, or even updates of old games.. while a new game like FCX is flat out ignored.

Apple doesn't help either. For example in the Italian App Store there is a Flight Games section. Anything goes in there, it includes even Angry Birds and Tiny Wings, Zombie Gunship and even Top Gun which on that store has (I kid you not) a 1/2 star rating !
.. but god forbid they'd ever include FC or FCX.. those are not a decent flying games.. no.

I guess we've been naive.. hoping that making a good game would be enough.
It worked with our first title (Final Freeway), but it's going backwards now: the more effort you put into a title, the less it's cared about.

This isn't good for us, but also isn't good for the market.
People are bombarded with always the same freaking games. Or occasionally by some funky pixel art games.. but if you try to make a game that looks good, then you better have the right connections, or your game is as good as nothing.

Anyway, we're pushing forward with the 1.1. Although much of my time is currently wasted begging left and right to get the game noticed in any way.
The publishers out there must be ecstatic: another defeated developer that thought he could get away without paying his duty to get into the world of games that are worth squat for the press.

Our fault for being naive.. but man, what a disappointment..

Maybe tomorrow FCX will finally be noticed, who knows.. but at this point I wouldn't count on it.

End of rant.. really sorry about it.. but I had to vent it somewhere (^^;)

01-22-2013, 11:30 PM
#63
Joined: Sep 2011
Location: Perth, Australia
Posts: 52
Not f.cking cool guys. I'm a big fan of your work and its a shame to see it pan out this way. There are more sites than TA out there. All I can say is keep fighting to push the title hard.
01-23-2013, 02:41 AM
#64
Joined: Aug 2010
Location: Tokyo, Japan
Posts: 272
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Originally Posted by RunningWild View Post
Not f.cking cool guys. I'm a big fan of your work and its a shame to see it pan out this way. There are more sites than TA out there. All I can say is keep fighting to push the title hard.
We're not giving up.. but most sites out there either tell us straight or make us understand that we have to pay up to be considered.

I understand that there's a market in reviewing apps.. but we truly can't afford to pay all of those reviews and ads spaces.

It's a shame, because I think that some sites could make an effort and review games like FCX for its own merits.

Thanks for the support.. hopefully the situation will improve
01-23-2013, 03:01 AM
#65
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 181
My sympathies on this. As I said before, I bought a credit pack even though I completed the game and got and upgraded the best plane before purchasing the credits. Its that good that I wanted to support you guys! This game is worlds better than that top gun travesty!
01-23-2013, 06:39 AM
#66
Joined: Aug 2010
Location: Tokyo, Japan
Posts: 272
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Originally Posted by gus1 View Post
My sympathies on this. As I said before, I bought a credit pack even though I completed the game and got and upgraded the best plane before purchasing the credits. Its that good that I wanted to support you guys! This game is worlds better than that top gun travesty!
Thanksss !!!

We'll see what happens.. what a life.. ! (^^;)
01-23-2013, 01:31 PM
#67
Joined: Apr 2009
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 2,291
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Originally Posted by TheCrib View Post
Sigh sob.. here comes the rant..
I've had FCX downloaded since it came out, because I saw this thread in the forums. It's currently on one of about 5 full pages of new games that have come out in the past few weeks that I'm desperately trying to find time to check out.

I can't tell you how much reading your rants here and in the front page comments has soured me to even checking it out now. It puts us in a tough spot because even if I like FCX and want to write something about it, it makes it look like any developer can just whine enough until they get coverage. I really don't want to send that message.

I probably would have finally gotten around to it and some other games by the end of this week or over the weekend. Now I don't know what to do. I work 16+ hour days trying to keep my head afloat to all that happens on the App Store. It's an overwhelming place and TA is only 3 people.

It just really turns me off hearing so much resentment from a developer like this. We've reviewed and covered both Final Freeway games and the first Fractal Combat. Most developers would kill to have even one of their games covered let alone 3, and believe me if there were more hours in the day I would cover even more games. But reading comments like this just saps any motivation I have whatsoever to keep on going

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01-23-2013, 01:37 PM
#68
Well what matters is the fans opinions anyway so I say if you liked the first one you must get the second one. Graphics are great controls are spot on and its not a game to be missed
01-24-2013, 12:21 AM
#69
Joined: Aug 2010
Location: Tokyo, Japan
Posts: 272
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Originally Posted by Boardumb View Post
I can't tell you how much reading your rants here and in the front page comments has soured me to even checking it out now. It puts us in a tough spot because even if I like FCX and want to write something about it, it makes it look like any developer can just whine enough until they get coverage. I really don't want to send that message.
First of all, thanks for replying, I really appreciate that.

I'm sorry for the rant. I can only imagine how it is to run a site like TA.. it's easy to say "talk about my game", but it's clearly easier said than done.

I realize that I sound like an unappreciative douche, and it's lame to blame others for one's own failures. At the same time I'm in a corner, because TA is the only big App Store games site that has a credible following. So, no TA, no joy.

Form my point of view it's really depressing to release a game, which (I dare to think) is above average (at least in terms of effort), and see it ignored by the press, and by reflection by Apple.

I understand that ranting like this isn't winning me any points. In fact I think that at this point putting FCX on the front page would seem forced, and it would set a bad precedent.
I wrote the rant when I pretty much gave up on seeing the game covered. So, for what it's worth, I'm cool and I agree with that.

It's for the best anyway. It's not wise to continue to release games and hope and pray that TA will cover it and do it in a timely fashion.
It's reckless to rely on something like that.. plus, it would be too easy, and one should never count on things to take the easy course.

But, if I can give one suggestion, it would really help if you guys could reply to emails in any way, even with a macro that says "we're on it" or "forget it".
That could go a long way in simplifying a developer's life. Maybe it's not doable, but it was worth suggesting it.

TA is still the best service out there not just for the users, but for the developers as well. These forums alone are invaluable.
TA was probably key in getting FF noticed when it first came out, and my gratitude for that isn't going away.

If I sound like an ass, it's because it sucks to live in hope.
The question in my mind every day is: can I pay the rent this month? Should I keep going or should I quit and get myself a real job?
I'm 40 and I'm broke. Do I want to become rich? Sure! But most of all, I like the idea to reach potentially millions of people with games that I make (cheesy but true 8P).. and I really don't want go back with the tail between my legs to work for some big boring game company and be just another skilled engineer that writes code that, quite frankly, doesn't make any real difference.
I hate the idea for myself, but I also hate to disappoint those that have covered my back during this adventure and that sometimes look up to me (rough deal ! 8P)

Anyhow, thanks for the great site. I just hope that you guys will get some real competition, if anything, so that frustrated developers like me can go rant somewhere else from time to time.

Best things !
01-24-2013, 12:35 AM
#70
Joined: Aug 2010
Location: Tokyo, Japan
Posts: 272
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Originally Posted by bramblett05 View Post
Well what matters is the fans opinions anyway so I say if you liked the first one you must get the second one. Graphics are great controls are spot on and its not a game to be missed
Thanks !

It's not a game that everyone will like, but I think that it can entertain quite a few people out there, if they get to know it

As far as I'm concerned, I'm just happy to read comment like yours, even if it's crtique

Last edited by TheCrib; 01-24-2013 at 12:45 PM.