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Originally Posted by Connector

It's raining right now in Los Angeles, so it is cold and snowing in the mountains. Big Bear is about 2 hours away from us. Weird thing is police shot two groups of innocent people in the Los Angeles area because of the paranoia. Weird situation indeed.

This should make for a really good movie script or video game.

Very interesting indeed. Won't be surprised when this is turned into a movie.

[Hoggy110]

I heard about this Dorner person. Ex-cop taking revenge on LAPD

Of course, video game are to blame for this mans actions

[KennyK]

Originally Posted by Hoggy110

Ex-cop taking revenge on LAPD

I swear I've read books about this...

[JBRUU]

Originally Posted by KennyK

Wasn't just talking about this guy, but shootings in general.
[I'm talking about the DKR shooting, school shootings etc]

Have they done polls or stuff in the US where they ask if guns should be banned or not? What would you guys think?

I'd prefer not to get into the whole gun control debate.

Another member spammed threads about that a while ago and it was quite annoying.

Suffice it to say that
1) "banning" guns doesn't put any sort of dent in crime, much less takes them off the streets. I live in the Chicago area, get all the news from there, commute occasionally into the city and we just had over 40 homocides this January alone - this is the city that has a ban on handguns (until the courts overturned it, but they still have until May to lift the ban).

2) I'm interested in more mental checks, but there will not and will never be any ban on all firearms in the US. Even this proposed assault weapon thing is stupid; the definition of "assault weapon" is so incredibly vague and relates to purely cosmetic features of the weapon as opposed to functionality. http://www.assaultweapon.info/ is a good explanation of what I'm talking about.

Anyway I'm not interested in starting a flame war or making enemies, that's just my honest opinion .

[KennyK]

Originally Posted by JBRUU

I'd prefer not to get into the whole gun control debate.

Another member spammed threads about that a while ago and it was quite annoying.

Suffice it to say that
1) "banning" guns doesn't put any sort of dent in crime, much less takes them off the streets. I live in the Chicago area, get all the news from there, commute occasionally into the city and we just had over 40 homocides this January alone - this is the city that has a ban on handguns (until the courts overturned it, but they still have until May to lift the ban).

2) I'm interested in more mental checks, but there will not and will never be any ban on all firearms in the US. Even this proposed assault weapon thing is stupid; the definition of "assault weapon" is so incredibly vague and relates to purely cosmetic features of the weapon as opposed to functionality. http://www.assaultweapon.info/ is a good explanation of what I'm talking about.

Anyway I'm not interested in starting a flame war or making enemies, that's just my honest opinion .

Haha, don't worry I'm not here to get involved in serious debate I don't even live in the US so this doesn't affect me, but would just like to see less shootings and such.

I just have two more questions: Why do you need guns? What do you use them for?

[k1lljoy_89]

Originally Posted by KennyK

I just have two more questions: Why do you need guns? What do you use them for?

it's irrelevant. There's already guns.

Look the problem isn't guns, it's the people. This whole thing was spurred by Sandy Hook, which for all we know may not have even happened. Banning guns is not the answer. Like JBRUU said, Chicago has very, very strict gun laws. And it just happens to have a huge amount of homicides, and hell, it's murder rate is 25% higher than last year.

It doesn't and won't work. Guns exist. It's not the problem. The people are the problem. Thugs, drugs and sick fugs, would you rather they stick a knife in your back? I'll take the bullet. Obviously there would be reasons to ban firearms but it's not as simple as that and it simply doesn't work.

I could go into much more detail, but that's about the size of it.

[JBRUU]

Sandy Hook happened. There are families going through unspeakable pain right now because of a mentally insane person.

[k1lljoy_89]

Originally Posted by JBRUU

Sandy Hook happened. There are families going through unspeakable pain right now because of a mentally insane person.

I know it did, I didn't mean it didn't. I worded that poorly. Not downplaying that incident at all. I meant with everything that happens, like your 40 deaths in Janurary, one incident can't be your reason for banning guns.

Regardless of how terrible it was, and how justified the emotions are, banning firearms is an illogical, emotion-driven conclusion.

[KennyK]

Originally Posted by k1lljoy_89

The people are the problem.

Americans...

[k1lljoy_89]

Originally Posted by KennyK

Americans...

Exactly.

I live in north Carolina (US) btw