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Old 02-08-2013, 09:40 PM
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Old 02-08-2013, 09:43 PM
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Wasn't just talking about this guy, but shootings in general.
[I'm talking about the DKR shooting, school shootings etc]

Have they done polls or stuff in the US where they ask if guns should be banned or not? What would you guys think?
I'd prefer not to get into the whole gun control debate.

Another member spammed threads about that a while ago and it was quite annoying.

Suffice it to say that
1) "banning" guns doesn't put any sort of dent in crime, much less takes them off the streets. I live in the Chicago area, get all the news from there, commute occasionally into the city and we just had over 40 homocides this January alone - this is the city that has a ban on handguns (until the courts overturned it, but they still have until May to lift the ban).

2) I'm interested in more mental checks, but there will not and will never be any ban on all firearms in the US. Even this proposed assault weapon thing is stupid; the definition of "assault weapon" is so incredibly vague and relates to purely cosmetic features of the weapon as opposed to functionality. http://www.assaultweapon.info/ is a good explanation of what I'm talking about.

Anyway I'm not interested in starting a flame war or making enemies, that's just my honest opinion .
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Old 02-08-2013, 09:48 PM
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I'd prefer not to get into the whole gun control debate.

Another member spammed threads about that a while ago and it was quite annoying.

Suffice it to say that
1) "banning" guns doesn't put any sort of dent in crime, much less takes them off the streets. I live in the Chicago area, get all the news from there, commute occasionally into the city and we just had over 40 homocides this January alone - this is the city that has a ban on handguns (until the courts overturned it, but they still have until May to lift the ban).

2) I'm interested in more mental checks, but there will not and will never be any ban on all firearms in the US. Even this proposed assault weapon thing is stupid; the definition of "assault weapon" is so incredibly vague and relates to purely cosmetic features of the weapon as opposed to functionality. http://www.assaultweapon.info/ is a good explanation of what I'm talking about.

Anyway I'm not interested in starting a flame war or making enemies, that's just my honest opinion .
Haha, don't worry I'm not here to get involved in serious debate I don't even live in the US so this doesn't affect me, but would just like to see less shootings and such.

I just have two more questions: Why do you need guns? What do you use them for?
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Old 02-08-2013, 10:47 PM
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I just have two more questions: Why do you need guns? What do you use them for?
it's irrelevant. There's already guns.

Look the problem isn't guns, it's the people. This whole thing was spurred by Sandy Hook, which for all we know may not have even happened. Banning guns is not the answer. Like JBRUU said, Chicago has very, very strict gun laws. And it just happens to have a huge amount of homicides, and hell, it's murder rate is 25% higher than last year.

It doesn't and won't work. Guns exist. It's not the problem. The people are the problem. Thugs, drugs and sick fugs, would you rather they stick a knife in your back? I'll take the bullet. Obviously there would be reasons to ban firearms but it's not as simple as that and it simply doesn't work.

I could go into much more detail, but that's about the size of it.

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Old 02-08-2013, 11:12 PM
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Sandy Hook happened. There are families going through unspeakable pain right now because of a mentally insane person.
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Old 02-08-2013, 11:23 PM
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Sandy Hook happened. There are families going through unspeakable pain right now because of a mentally insane person.
I know it did, I didn't mean it didn't. I worded that poorly. Not downplaying that incident at all. I meant with everything that happens, like your 40 deaths in Janurary, one incident can't be your reason for banning guns.

Regardless of how terrible it was, and how justified the emotions are, banning firearms is an illogical, emotion-driven conclusion.
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Old 02-08-2013, 11:25 PM
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The people are the problem.
Americans...

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Old 02-08-2013, 11:26 PM
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Exactly.

I live in north Carolina (US) btw

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Old 02-08-2013, 11:58 PM
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Haha, don't worry I'm not here to get involved in serious debate I don't even live in the US so this doesn't affect me, but would just like to see less shootings and such.

I just have two more questions: Why do you need guns? What do you use them for?
Your two questions are almost identical; the answer to one is the answer to both.

Keep in mind, we don't even need a reason to own a gun. Bearing arms is a right that is ensured by our country's constitution, and it cannot be taken away unless an amendment to said document is passed.

What are guns used for? Well, first of all, target shooting is an Olympic sport, both the handgun and rifle variety. Both casual plinking at cans or serious target shooting is a lot of fun Second, many Americans are avid hunters. You need a gun (or bow) for that sport. Third, a firearm is the best way to defend yourself and your home in the event of a home invasion. The police are just minutes away when seconds count.

May I ask in what country you live in? I'm guessing in the European continent?

The difference in attitudes towards guns there is just night and day.
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Old 02-09-2013, 12:17 AM
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Exactly.

For the record, I have several guns for all three mentioned reasons. And a bow for that matter though I never use it.

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The difference in attitudes towards guns there is just night and day.
it really is...
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