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02-08-2013, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by JBRUU View Post
I'd prefer not to get into the whole gun control debate.

Another member spammed threads about that a while ago and it was quite annoying.

Suffice it to say that
1) "banning" guns doesn't put any sort of dent in crime, much less takes them off the streets. I live in the Chicago area, get all the news from there, commute occasionally into the city and we just had over 40 homocides this January alone - this is the city that has a ban on handguns (until the courts overturned it, but they still have until May to lift the ban).

2) I'm interested in more mental checks, but there will not and will never be any ban on all firearms in the US. Even this proposed assault weapon thing is stupid; the definition of "assault weapon" is so incredibly vague and relates to purely cosmetic features of the weapon as opposed to functionality. http://www.assaultweapon.info/ is a good explanation of what I'm talking about.

Anyway I'm not interested in starting a flame war or making enemies, that's just my honest opinion .
Haha, don't worry I'm not here to get involved in serious debate I don't even live in the US so this doesn't affect me, but would just like to see less shootings and such.

I just have two more questions: Why do you need guns? What do you use them for?
02-08-2013, 11:47 PM
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I just have two more questions: Why do you need guns? What do you use them for?
it's irrelevant. There's already guns.

Look the problem isn't guns, it's the people. This whole thing was spurred by Sandy Hook, which for all we know may not have even happened. Banning guns is not the answer. Like JBRUU said, Chicago has very, very strict gun laws. And it just happens to have a huge amount of homicides, and hell, it's murder rate is 25% higher than last year.

It doesn't and won't work. Guns exist. It's not the problem. The people are the problem. Thugs, drugs and sick fugs, would you rather they stick a knife in your back? I'll take the bullet. Obviously there would be reasons to ban firearms but it's not as simple as that and it simply doesn't work.

I could go into much more detail, but that's about the size of it.

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02-09-2013, 12:12 AM
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Sandy Hook happened. There are families going through unspeakable pain right now because of a mentally insane person.

Obnoxious self promotion: My little site
Show me some love, eh? You might even find it a bit interesting
Hey, why not? Ask me your worst: http://ask.fm/JBRUU
02-09-2013, 12:23 AM
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Sandy Hook happened. There are families going through unspeakable pain right now because of a mentally insane person.
I know it did, I didn't mean it didn't. I worded that poorly. Not downplaying that incident at all. I meant with everything that happens, like your 40 deaths in Janurary, one incident can't be your reason for banning guns.

Regardless of how terrible it was, and how justified the emotions are, banning firearms is an illogical, emotion-driven conclusion.
02-09-2013, 12:25 AM
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The people are the problem.
Americans...

02-09-2013, 12:26 AM
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Americans...

Exactly.

I live in north Carolina (US) btw

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02-09-2013, 12:58 AM
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Haha, don't worry I'm not here to get involved in serious debate I don't even live in the US so this doesn't affect me, but would just like to see less shootings and such.

I just have two more questions: Why do you need guns? What do you use them for?
Your two questions are almost identical; the answer to one is the answer to both.

Keep in mind, we don't even need a reason to own a gun. Bearing arms is a right that is ensured by our country's constitution, and it cannot be taken away unless an amendment to said document is passed.

What are guns used for? Well, first of all, target shooting is an Olympic sport, both the handgun and rifle variety. Both casual plinking at cans or serious target shooting is a lot of fun Second, many Americans are avid hunters. You need a gun (or bow) for that sport. Third, a firearm is the best way to defend yourself and your home in the event of a home invasion. The police are just minutes away when seconds count.

May I ask in what country you live in? I'm guessing in the European continent?

The difference in attitudes towards guns there is just night and day.
02-09-2013, 01:17 AM
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Exactly.

For the record, I have several guns for all three mentioned reasons. And a bow for that matter though I never use it.

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The difference in attitudes towards guns there is just night and day.
it really is...
02-09-2013, 01:23 AM
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May I ask in what country you live in?
I live in Australia, where guns are banned.

If you were to ask why, we will just mention the Port Arthur Massacre, where 35 people were killed in 1996. As a result, guns laws were heavily tightened and restricted. So I hope you'll forgive me for questioning the need for guns after all these shootings in the US.

Banning guns in the US, is probably like being able to bear arms over here, it'll never happen.

Last edited by KennyK; 02-09-2013 at 01:27 AM.
02-09-2013, 04:24 AM
Joined: May 2011
Location: Finland
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If you love holding guns so much, then why dont you just tighten the requierments to buy one? You get a gun if you really need one, but it may keep lunatics out. Like have some aligibility testsbefore allowing him to hold a gun.

And don't tell me that I dont know wht I'm talking about as a European. We've had 3 school shootings in the 2000's and plenty of other shooting situations. The amount of shootings for our small population is big. Oh and i'm talking about Finland not Europe as a whole

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