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04-18-2017, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by howardgod View Post
What's the best strategy to leveling main and party?
1. focus only on main character
2. leveling all party in a average way

I found out that my main character "Ms. Love" always has way higher damage than other, I'm talking about 1000x or even more than other party member. So in my opinion, that (1) should be better.

However, for following reasons that make me think will it be better to leveling the party member the same time as main character?
1. There's a mutant, which decrease party member attack damage and increase main character attack damage. IMO, mutant purpose is to decrease our ability to fight the monster, so for this particular mutant, is that mean develop think the party member attack is important to fight the monsters?

2. I found that my main character has always way higher damage than other party members. I'm talking about 1000x times higher. So I don't have if it will be profitable to level party member with hell stone? I don't even think I can make it with leveling party member attack in hell store. 1000x is huge difference between them.
Love and Eye are always going to show a lot more damage because their strength is in hitting multiple enemies, vs single ones. They won't be as strong against bosses armed as for example an orc with deathstrike huge weapons and bash bonuses. Eagle Eye doesn't help you much for difficult bosses.

If you look at the details for a character it will show you what the damage reduction is for mercs (right now mine is at 35% for me with research complete).

But there's other considerations, even beyond party support skills which enhance damage. If you are struggling with trials 28 & 29, for example, where you can't use your main.

I'm finding, for example, that Orc is doing most of the damage that wins trial 28, so I promoted him to level 60...also, he is *much* cheaper to promote than blade and love, whereas the bounty hunter aren't much help—their party bonuses to penetrate and ricochet don't help either Love, Blade, or Eye. However I think that this last update on iOS has increased the gold from battle bonuses, so they are helpful until I hit game over...40 million per battle vs 2 by day 900+! Anyway, you need mass damage dealers and you need people to clear single targets...but there is probably one or two people that you can hold off on, until you get to the next difficulty and your trial rewards increases.

Regarding item level quality, it is a little bit of a pain to have to find and mod up new weapons, but it *is* worth it. The damage increase is considerable, and since he improved the modding chances it only takes a few minutes to mod out 5 or 6 weapons. I'm at 112 now and its kind of fun to see the difference in level one weapons—often 3 or 400 damage at level 1 for 1% quality improvement. (That's with 4 damage mods, asp, and crit) When you add that difference up over a few thousand item levels, phew...

Last edited by Solarclipse; 04-25-2017 at 07:46 PM.
04-21-2017, 08:33 AM
On my first run through on normal with skeleton as main, snake, ooze, living sword and ogre. Snake does heaps and sometimes keeps up with me, but others do little. Not sure why....

Also, how to improve skeleton? Reload rate? Attack speed? Attacks so slow compare to others with his 1 ammo

04-21-2017, 12:05 PM
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 3
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Originally Posted by baelnor View Post
On my first run through on normal with skeleton as main, snake, ooze, living sword and ogre. Snake does heaps and sometimes keeps up with me, but others do little. Not sure why....

Also, how to improve skeleton? Reload rate? Attack speed? Attacks so slow compare to others with his 1 ammo
Penetrate is very effective, together with triple shot and multi shot. I wouldn't put anything into reload until those are maxed.
04-21-2017, 06:11 PM
Thanks for the tip . I have multi, triple, penetrate maxed and working to max his +city skill.

I guess, are his other skills good? The ones with the trade off? Or just take the raw DMg ones?
04-22-2017, 05:52 PM
Has anyone else noticed that your characters will be more successful on the iphone then the ipad?

I usually do better in the endless run on my iphone when I let them both runlike only ONCE did they at least tie on my ipad with what they got on my iphone.

I'm wondering the way enemies appear or something impacts the battle...
04-26-2017, 12:30 AM
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 5
Moving to end difficulty?

At what point can I move to the "end" difficulty. I've ran through insane day+1000 3 times now and I have 700% weapon damage and 20% damage reduction from rubies. I can't make it past day 35 or so in "end" and can't make it past the trial level 2

Edit: I main mr blade and use mr eye, wraith, living sword, and I start with ogre. Around day 500 I switch ogre to orc. All members are promoted to level 11
04-26-2017, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by nslasha View Post
At what point can I move to the "end" difficulty. I've ran through insane day+1000 3 times now and I have 700% weapon damage and 20% damage reduction from rubies. I can't make it past day 35 or so in "end" and can't make it past the trial level 2

Edit: I main mr blade and use mr eye, wraith, living sword, and I start with ogre. Around day 500 I switch ogre to orc. All members are promoted to level 11
Some pointers:
Inherit 5 weapons, shoot for 99.98+ quality
Mod the weapons when you have ogre and sword together (cheaper, higher quality) and use the all skills necklace on sword for an extra boost. After I got to level 9 or 10 mods, I would save the game. Try 10 times, and if I don't get a mod up, reload. If the mod goes up keep it and save, even if you don't want it. It's more likely to stay at level 10 (or go to 11) once you are there, then to get back from 9 to 10.
accessories are a huge help, but focus on Mr. Blade and Mr. Eye first. Next, orc because his necklace gives everyone rage.
You might sub out living sword for now, since he doesn't really deal much damage. Nameless, maybe? Until you have a few of the $ bonus rings, his bounty hunter probably isn't worth it. Mr. Death also works really well, crippling and slowing enemies, providing healing, and some other goodies.
Ruby store's boss damage is also very helpful, especially once bosses start getting lots of mutations. I'm also pretty sure it helps with the tower of trial bosses as well
focus on promoting mr. blade to level 20, then mr. eye. Mr. Eye doesn't really do terrific damage until he has more of his skills up, but when he does he can really clear the room...Whereas having a strong Mr. Blade, especially as your main, will help in the beginning. Especially if you bring in level+ in new game from rebirth store
if you haven't already maxed out dungeon hp regeneration, do so. It's too expensive to repair the dungeon. Research power is also a huge help, even with Mr. Eye. And of course, attack speed, crit rate and damage are also high priority, but I'm guessing you already got those...i'm going to start hell 5 so its hard to remember what I had back then...and then IAP can make it even harder to tell.

Hope that helps.
04-27-2017, 12:21 AM
Necklaces?

How do I use a necklace?

Loving the game so far.
04-27-2017, 07:55 AM
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 119
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Originally Posted by nslasha View Post
At what point can I move to the "end" difficulty. I've ran through insane day+1000 3 times now and I have 700% weapon damage and 20% damage reduction from rubies. I can't make it past day 35 or so in "end" and can't make it past the trial level 2

Edit: I main mr blade and use mr eye, wraith, living sword, and I start with ogre. Around day 500 I switch ogre to orc. All members are promoted to level 11
Quote:
Originally Posted by nslasha View Post
At what point can I move to the "end" difficulty. I've ran through insane day+1000 3 times now and I have 700% weapon damage and 20% damage reduction from rubies. I can't make it past day 35 or so in "end" and can't make it past the trial level 2

Edit: I main mr blade and use mr eye, wraith, living sword, and I start with ogre. Around day 500 I switch ogre to orc. All members are promoted to level 11
If you haven't already gotten legendary jewelry for your main character, that really helps a lot. You can buy the necklace and fully upgrade it pretty easily. The ring takes Rubies, of course, but it is worth it if you can afford it.

If you've done that and still aren't having luck, I'd recommend trying Nameless as your main. I tried him based on a recommendation from this thread and he really is great at getting into new difficulties.
04-27-2017, 10:49 AM
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 1
Can someone give me some pointers for this game? I just started recently. I'm at level 200 on Easy, and I'm wondering what I should do first. There are so many things to manage, like Reincarnate, Awaken, Promote, and all the upgrades in Rebirth Store. Progress is kinda slow at this point, so should I reincarnate or keep going? If i reincarnate, which upgrades should I get first? The 2x battle speed seems like a good first upgrade, but then there's still all the equipment mods, and forge stuff that takes a bit of time as well. I just need a little guidance.