Is Shilling an acceptable marketing strategy

Discussion in 'General Game Discussion and Questions' started by SarcasticGamer, Jan 28, 2010.

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Is Shilling a valid marketing tool?

Poll closed Mar 19, 2010.
  1. Yes, it is a valid marketing tool

    14 vote(s)
    10.9%
  2. No, I stand against this sort of marketing

    96 vote(s)
    74.4%
  3. I don't care as long as I enjoy the game.

    19 vote(s)
    14.7%
  1. SarcasticGamer

    SarcasticGamer Well-Known Member

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    Over the week I received pms from devs or their supporters asking me to lay off on 'shillers' They asked me to understand and that it was hard enough to be a developer this days. So I want the communities input in this one : Given the competitive market and the indies lack of budget for a marketing campaign is Shilling an acceptable marketing strategy?
     
  2. da shiz wiz 19

    da shiz wiz 19 Well-Known Member

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    wtf this is such bullshit lol
    Anyone else get PMs from indies asking them to lay off shillers?

    Shilling is not acceptable though
     
  3. SunriseMoon

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  4. CaptainAwesome

    CaptainAwesome Well-Known Member

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    Shilling=Absolute crap.

    Promoting your game is a must. But giving reviews to your own game just proves that you don't have confidence in your skills as a developer.
     
  5. SarcasticGamer

    SarcasticGamer Well-Known Member

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    I got 3 pm over the week, of course I am the likely target of this pm given what I am doing :)

    Also to give you guys an overview of shilling, Sony did a failed Viral Marketing for the PSP 3-4 xmas ago. It's a youtube video of a white guy rapping about 'how he want's a psp for xmas', someone did a research and trace the video back to marketing firm hired by sony :D
     
  6. da shiz wiz 19

    da shiz wiz 19 Well-Known Member

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    #6 da shiz wiz 19, Jan 28, 2010
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    Someone answer me this: Has anyone been contacted by inde devs and their supporters asking them to lay off shillers (except Azreal, and SarcasticGamer)?

    Anyone? I have never been told to. But it is obvious at times a few devs are shilling due to similar grammatical errors and style of writing.
     
  7. SarcasticGamer

    SarcasticGamer Well-Known Member

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    What are you uptight about son? I have but that is beside the point, a growing number of devs are shilling nowadays just look at the appstore reviews of lest know titles, you will see a game that is just release that have 5 star review already almost instantly.
     
  8. da shiz wiz 19

    da shiz wiz 19 Well-Known Member

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    I am uptight about this because this is such bullshit. I have NEVER been contacted to lay off shillers. That would be the dumbest move by a dev ever. Yes I agree shilling is bad, but not the bullshit you're sprouting. All you're trying to do is defame indies as a whole. You've done it before.
     
  9. sid187

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    #9 sid187, Jan 28, 2010
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    i always take the first reviews as being family and friends reviews.. take it for what it is iguess.

    one thing is for sure.. ill tell you what i think.. but i also try to add constructive advice too.. because pure negative feed back is really no help to anyone.. so if you just gonna slam a app.. like i see on the appstore reviews.. like

    "this app sucks" well if i was the dev.. that sure would not help me figure out how to make it better. etc.

    shilling fails. but im sure it goes on.

    and you know i think dev's should be happy how generous die hard gamers are on here willing to beta test give there input.. thats how they can compete with the big boys.. so i think TA is great.. and i give a pat on the back to the guys who help devs try to make there games better. yeah i know some devs will not listen.. well cant please everyone.
    chris.
     
  10. Kunning

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    Agreed. Indie devs have never even contacted ME about shilling. :rolleyes: Or Hodapp, or arn, or any other website, for that matter. That'd just be stupid. And who are you? You're not famous; TA isn't somewhere where ALL the indie devs are, so you're just spouting some bull-ass-shit right now.
     
  11. SarcasticGamer

    SarcasticGamer Well-Known Member

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    Kunning let me forward you my pm but only if you promise full confidentiality, I trust you man!
     
  12. da shiz wiz 19

    da shiz wiz 19 Well-Known Member

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    Just one? You said "pms" implying it's plural. Dumbshit, at least lie convincingly.
     
  13. SarcasticGamer

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    A minute ago you are implying that there is none, now you are implying that there is only one! I have 3 pms but I dont feel like forwarding them all. And are you saying the shilling is not being done at all here?
     
  14. CaptainAwesome

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    Full confidentiality? And yet you're posting your offer to show him the PM on a forum that anyone can access?

    That's sure keeping the cat in the bag. If it's true.
     
  15. da shiz wiz 19

    da shiz wiz 19 Well-Known Member

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    PM him all of them. You said PMs (plural) yet you're only showing one?
    ACHOO Sorry I'm allergic to bullpoop.jpg
     
  16. Kunning

    Kunning Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, yeah. Show it to me.
     
  17. kahdmus

    kahdmus Well-Known Member

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    Its complete bullshit and will backfire when discovered...
     
  18. SarcasticGamer

    SarcasticGamer Well-Known Member

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    PM sent.

    If I want to defame anyone I would have taken the screens post it here for all to see! I just want everybody's take on this one.
     
  19. da shiz wiz 19

    da shiz wiz 19 Well-Known Member

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    Then send it to everyone -_-
    or post it here so I can see it
     
  20. SarcasticGamer

    SarcasticGamer Well-Known Member

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    you can't tell me what to do kid. Even you must admit it's happening and focusing on dafaming me about getting pms is not going to make it go away!
     

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