How much C do you need for objC?

well, my question is, what are you using to learn C? im interested...

 

i used to teach C at university level. it is definitely NOT the language for people just starting out; there are a lot of pitfalls you can fall into. but there are a lot of common syntax rules between C, Objective-C, Java, C++ and C#. there are some online tutorials, such as:

http://www.cprogramming.com/

but, C programming is not for the light hearted; while it is my language of choice; it is because i've been doing it for 15+ years now - and i know the pitfalls inside out to know how to avoid them.

 

Obj-C is a superset of C. You'll need to understand C well to program in Obj-C since it's 99% C to begin with.

 

I'm sure there are books that would teach Obj-C to people who have no background in programming. Those books are bound to teach the necessary C stuff in tandem with the Obj-C stuff.

The Obj-C book we have in the office (it is sadly underused but when I have looked through it it's been brilliant) is called "Programming in Objective-C" by Stephen G. Kochan. Here is an excerpt from the introduction that might be of interest to you:

Before you run out and buy this book though a caveat: I haven't learnt Objective-C from this book and I already knew C and C++ before learning Objective-C. I am merely using the book as a reference (and a good one!) every now and then so I can't say whether it does an effective job of teaching the language from scratch. But it does seem to suit your purposes

 

I'v read about that book, "Programming in Objective-C", it got great reviews but there are some concerns. It's quite old and written for an earlier version of the SDK. A follow-up book has been released but if I remember correctly the new one left out on some of the basic beginner parts. But check it out, I'm not entirely sure.

 

Yes the edition we have is 2004 but it's not written for the SDK at all, it concentrates on teaching you the language and leaves you to figure out specific frameworks yourself. In this way it remains relevent despite being 5 years old. I don't know anything about newer editions though.

 

so, I want to get in on C and up. I know very little html but am willing to work hard. what do you all reccommend? what book for begginning C users? please help thanks

 

Probably best to start with something else judging by this:

 

well theres so much help out there. but whatever u say, so where should i start?

 

oh, i see it, and do i/ will i need C ?

 

Yes you will need to know some C at some stage or another but as the author of the book I mentioned says learning the entire C language as a precursor to Obj-C can actually be a bad idea. This book will teach you what you need to know about C as it teaches you Obj-C, and I'm sure there would be other books/courses that would take the same approach

 

alright, thanks much! and without having a mac or anything, where can i experiment with C stuff

 

putty free or no?