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A Question for All the Go Players

12-03-2008, 12:28 AM
#1
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Location: Minnesota
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A Question for All the Go Players

Being a fan of Go, and seeing that iGo ($3.99) was just released, I wanted to know if there are any Go apps that are really necessary to have. None of the ones I've found are "complete," but I don't really know if I've found all of the ones available and was wondering if there were other Go fans in the English-speaking app realm.

SmartGo Touch ($9.99) looks like the most complete, with over 6000 (!!) games to study, a few thousand problems, and the ability to make/play/record your own games. There are two issues, though: the price, which is really steep, and no AI to play an on-the-go game versus the CPU. I understand AI is tough to program, but even a minimally competent AI would be nice.

Tetsuki (Free) is worthless to me, because I don't have constant access to WiFi and don't really care about playing online.

Go Player ($3.99) looks minimally interesting, with a bunch of games to study. But for the price, I would frankly rather get a piece of cheesecake.

I have Stones (Free), which is just a simple interface to plunk down the stones.

iGo looks alright, but are any of these others worthwhile or are there any other Go apps?
12-03-2008, 01:03 AM
#2
Joined: Jul 2008
Location: Orlando, FL
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I have smartgo but I deleted it fairly quickly

I had hoped with the higher price tag I would get a tutorial to teach me to play/give me tips =( no such luck

12-03-2008, 01:24 AM
#3
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GnuGO is ported to JB iPhone/iTouch, fyi. I am still waiting from a Go game to play against with.
12-03-2008, 02:07 AM
#4
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Yeah, GnuGo is good stuff, but I'm not willing to JB my iPod for it.

The thing with iGo is that there's an AI to play against, but I don't know how the mechanics of the game will work on the iPod. I kind of wish there was a lite version, even with the weakest AI. $4 is a lot for a gamble.

The ideal program would have a lot of pro games to study, problems with tutorials and explanations, and the ability to play the CPU.

I suppose I'll just have to get by with reading PDFs of strategies on the iPod for the moment.
12-03-2008, 08:26 AM
#5
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If you know how to play Go and you want to further your ability, then get smartgo. I learned a lot of different skills by watching the professional games it provided. I also love the amount of problems it has that you can solve. Just keep in mind that it is just a study tool and its worth is determined by the amount of time you are willing to put into it.
12-04-2008, 02:03 AM
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I see iGo released too, and it has just dropped in price...

AFAIK this one has the option to play a game against CPU and another player. May be this is what I am looking for.

Is it good? Is the CPU stronger than GNUGo? Any review or thoughts?

TIA.
12-04-2008, 02:16 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by currymutton View Post
I see iGo released too, and it has just dropped in price...

AFAIK this one has the option to play a game against CPU and another player. May be this is what I am looking for.

Is it good? Is the CPU stronger than GNUGo? Any review or thoughts?

TIA.
I'm strongly considering biting, but based on one of the reviews, I'm worried about the accuracy of stone placement. The free app Stones has a system whereby stones appear above your finger, and it works great. I'm just worried that if I play on a 19x19 board it will be too inaccurate.

I would assume with 10 difficulty settings it would get to at least Kyu in the upper-teens, but I doubt it's as tough as the 8-10 Kyu strength of GnuGo.

I'm going to agonize about this for a while. If I bite I'll give a quick review.
12-04-2008, 02:46 AM
#8
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I was on the verge of biting this one...well I am more concerned about the AI rating, even though I am very much a beginner, a tough opponent would give me growth and a sense of achievement.

Well, may be, I dunno, USD2.99 is not that steep, I may bit it in my sleep...
12-04-2008, 04:12 AM
#9
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I think I'll probably get it tomorrow and forgo a meal or two.

I should be able to give some impressions by this time tomorrow.
12-04-2008, 04:16 AM
#10
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Itsu Demo Doko Demo Dekiru Igo - AI Igo DS
Daredemo Kantan Chou Chikun no Tsumego
Asonde Igo ga Tsuyoku naru Ginsei Igo DS
Umezawa Yukari no Yasashi Igo
http://mrbass.org/nintendoDS/japanesegames/
has link to official homepages of those games if you can navigate around in Japanese.

Those are the ones I liked the best on Nintendo DS. Tsumego was awesome. It presented a problem where it asked you to capture stones in x amount of moves. I learned a lot from playing that one. Would love to see something similar to that on iphone. AI's never will be any good except for beginners. Dekiru Igo one was also really nice I enjoyed playing.

Nothing yet has caught my attention yet for a nice Go program yet on iphone.
I would be interested if you think iGo is worth the $3 though.