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Farewell Nintendo

08-02-2011, 11:02 AM
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 998
Farewell Nintendo

I know they rebounded nicely with the Wii (during its prime), and they have always dominated in the portable realm, but I honestly believe that their outdated business and stubborn refusal to adapt to the times has finally caught up with them.

I jumped ship in December '10 from being a Nintendo fanboy. Support for the Wii was waning, and I was getting tired of playing (admittedly high-quality) rehashes of popular Nintendo franchises. I sold my DS, expecting to be blown away by the 3DS (while cool, the great games just aren't there yet and it's clear that the 3D is more gimmicky than ground-breaking). I got an iPad thinking that it could replace my aging laptop and I could jailbreak it and play some emulators in my free time.

The game selection on the App store blew my mind. And the prices (from free to $10, generally) are insane. Indie developers are constantly innovating and releasing awesome games (that often happen to appeal to my platformer-shooter-action game tastes). While most ios games offer bite-size entertainment for a mere 99 cents a pop, there are tons of substantial games as well.

So farewell Nintendo. Perhaps one day you will make games for devices other than your own, and if that time comes I will happily put Mario on my iPad alongside Cordy and Bumpy Road and Storm in a Teacup.

And if you do recover from this, and the Wii U somehow takes off and becomes the next big thing, and the 3DS overcomes its marketing struggles (it's apparently quite difficult to sell something that you need to see first-hand to understand) then I will happily eat my words.

Now playing: Squids, Shantae, Mage Gauntlet, Roboto, Emberwind, Cordy, Whale Trail, Aquaria, Super Crossfire, Extraction, Crazy Hedgy, Terra Noctis, Pocket RPG, Glowfish, Steambirds, Edge Ex, SANDWICHES!!, Goat Up, Bean's Quest, Last Rocket, Blobster, Run Jump Kill, Don't Run WAPS, Jap Werewolf, Space Tripper, Sonic CD, Sleepy Jack.

Last edited by caanerud; 08-02-2011 at 12:41 PM.
08-02-2011, 11:08 AM
Joined: May 2011
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First of all, seeing your sig, that's a bunch of great games. Second, welcome. and third, y u no jump in the ship nintendooo?! I'd love to play SMB on my iTouch!

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08-02-2011, 12:15 PM
Joined: Jan 2010
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I was big into DS and PSP.

Not any more. iOS fills my gaming needs, and is sooooo much less expensive. And contrary to popular BS, there are plenty of good games. OK, some genres are sparse, but if gaming is a fun hobby and not a religion for you (i.e. you're a normal, balanced human being with a life) then iOS gaming is fine, and it keeps getting better.
08-02-2011, 12:53 PM
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Cool story bro.

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08-02-2011, 01:03 PM
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you guys talk like the systems cant co-exist....

proud ipad 2 and 3DS owner.

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08-02-2011, 01:04 PM
Joined: Nov 2008
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I hope they can survive long enough to put out Moneter Hunter on the 3DS. I feel right now like the Ocarina of Time was the most expesnive game I have ever bought. The new Mario game will probably be pretty funk in 3D...so this one I am looking forewards to....but thats about it.

So little games for such a new system....!

Cant wait for the VITA though...lets hope it gets some DIABLO 3 love. :P

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08-02-2011, 01:06 PM
Joined: May 2011
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I agree 100% with the OP. What Nintendo doesn't seem to realize is that they could dominate in an age where you had to get up and go to the store to buy games. Today, that's just not the case. I was a holdout with my DS and my Wii and really didnt get into iPhone gaming until about a year ago.. but whoa, when I did, I don't think I ever stepped foot into a Gamestop again.

Not to mention the fact that their main vehicule, casual gaming, just works better on the iOS space or on social networks. And it's so much cheaper. $40 for a 3DS game? No thanks..

Bye bye Nintendo.. sad to see you go.
08-02-2011, 01:20 PM
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 207
It's a shame that Nintendo is in steep decline in the portable market. I want both Nintendo and Sony to thrive, because the Vita and the 3DS can do things with a dedicated device and physical controls and big-budget developer backing that the iOS games cannot always replicate.

That being said, it's just tough for Nintendo and Sony to compete on price selling $40 games when there are so many excellent free and low-priced games on the App Store. This weekend you could have picked up GTA: Chinatown Wars HD for iPad for $2.99. Dead Space HD was on sale for $.99. So was NOVA 2 HD, Dungeon Hunter 2, HD, really most of the Gameloft and EA titles will eventually go on sale for $.99. It's so easy to wait for them to go on sale, and then click on the buy button and download from iTunes.
08-02-2011, 01:28 PM
Joined: Apr 2010
Location: California, USA
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Originally Posted by Chocolate View Post
I was big into DS and PSP.

Not any more. iOS fills my gaming needs, and is sooooo much less expensive. And contrary to popular BS, there are plenty of good games. OK, some genres are sparse, but if gaming is a fun hobby and not a religion for you (i.e. you're a normal, balanced human being with a life) then iOS gaming is fine, and it keeps getting better.
Definitely, man! I've owned every game console since Pong in 1972 with the exeption of the Neo Geo, as well as every hand held except the new 3ds, which I see as just gimmicky and have spent thousands and thousands on them. Nowadays, however, the old way is becoming obsolete. (physical software) Everything now is DLC. (downloadable content) In every media! Soon, there'll be no need for GameStop stores. No need for software! The IOS is kicking butt with quality and quantity and you can't beat the prices! No need to waste 60 bucks for one game you're gonna return soon! These things were great in their day, but this is the future for now. I'm quite happy walking around with my trusty, bitchen little ipod 4th gen. 64gb with over 500 games/apps, over 3,500 songs, and another 8 gigs of video in my pocket with no need for anything else, (except maybe another 64 gb of space on it). If Nintendo was smart, they'd jump on this bus and sell their huge library of games here before their mistakes make them completely irrelevant with the times! Oh, well, kinda hard to feel sorry for them considering the run they've had. Farewell, Nintendo, it's been a lot of great years! RIP!
08-02-2011, 03:34 PM
Joined: Jun 2010
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The issue is that a portion of casual gamers have in fact abandoned Nintendo in favor of iOS gaming for that simple reason alone. The games are cheaper. The games are not better, mind you. They are simply cheaper. But we are talking about casual gamers here. I absolutely believe that Nintendo IS dying a slow death because their business model is outdated and they refuse to adapt. They need to counter their loses in the casual marketplace by pursuing more of a hardcore/dedicated gamer base.

I believe that the Vito will sell because everyone knows beforehand that Sony will offer the type of handheld gaming alternative that will be attractive to dedicated gamers who have become disillusioned by the relative cheapness of iOS games. They sell cheap, yes. But they are almost made cheap. As such, they are devoid of substance/content/polish/etc. I want more as a gamer then what the iOS scene tends on average to offer and I know I am not alone.

Recently, I have gone back to playing the original PSP far more then the iPhone. Also, however, I own a 3DS and I play my PSP much more than that 3DS. The PSP is currently outselling, and signficantly so, I might add, the 3DS.

Third-party support is the key. Nintendo has never taken third-party support seriously and that is why their model is dying. Because all of their first-party franchises are casual in nature. Every single one of them. I have tried over the years, but there is not a single first-party Nintendo franchise that I can sink my teeth into. Not even Zelda.

Where is Activision when it comes to 3DS development? Where's EA? Where the heck is everybody else? Square-Enix? Rockstar? Bioware? ID? Gearbox? Dice? Epic? Bethesda? Anybody? Bueller? Bueller? Bueller? All I see is a little bit of Capcom, but that ain't nearly enough.