Junk Jack By Pixbits

[New England Gamer]

Originally Posted by Penilegland

Still not worth updating for myself,
I'd rather have my completed recipe book intact, rather than have a few extra widgets..plus I've already got about 7 widgets premade sitting in a chest, so it's basically pointless for me. other then the very slightly adjusted mineral count (also doesn't interest me, it's only slight..I think the minerals were already at a perfect number/rareness in the original release..seemed all in balance to me.. I think they ajusted it because so many people were complaining it was too hard without recipes, so they basically tried to dumb down a few things in the game to make it easier for the noobs who are too lazy to google a tutorial!

I'm glad I got to experience the original version and collect my own recipes, I thought that was a nice little touch..it's a shame others didn't "get" it..because that was really one of th only goals in the game..now it's just about mining and building basically.


It's not entirely just the recipe book that has prevented me from updating the app, though I do think the devs should have allowed those who had already completed the recipe book keep them as well as the new book, but im also worried because there's all these new bugs in other versions, I'm worried there might be some that haven't been encountered yet that'll fully crash the game, and that'd really irritate me immensely..although I haven't actually played junk jack im days..I tend to play for hours on end one day, then don't touch it for a while, then do another long session, rather then short consistent sessions.

Believe me, I was one of the first to stamp my feet in protest and say I wasn't going to update. But I did. And I don't regret it. Other than not understanding where to put the new craft pages I found (or in truth, where they landed) it was seamless. The update is fantastic. You still need to find all the pages, they only give you a handful of moves and crafts. So please update, don't hold off for anything other than fear. I was fearful, I did it, so now you can too.

Besides, you are going to NEED to update to the next one which includes making the chests bigger - 48 slots instead of 12 (I think I read?) And then of course there will be the update to include the quests and finally be able to make the mailbox. And discover what the vial is for!

So hold out now, but there really isn't any point. The more recipes you collect now, the more you will have to recollect when you update at a future time.

Originally Posted by eev

i bought the game but did not played yet, however if it's truth than it sucks. i thought the game will provide some challenges with enemies and crafting system but just building as a game goal is just meh.

You still collect them - see above. There is an update coming with the quests - see above. My goodness, the devs had to rush out a fix for people that could not play PERIOD and that delayed (sorry don't mean to speak for you pixbits) the quests and new things they probably had scheduled. Now with this latest wrinkle in the 2g story I am sure they are hard at work at that. We all can play the game, they can't. I am willing to let the other things get delayed a little so the ones that can't play can.

Originally Posted by colourblind.cow

you do realise that people who are upset about the update are those who either have 2g devices or people who didnt find the update helpful in the least bit, and that all the update did was introduce bugs into the game. In fact i would suggest the opposite to people who have not updated and do not need an easy guide to the game to leave it as it is, unless you enjoy having your current display trophies disappear and for monsters to constantly spawn in your house.

No, he was talking about those of us who were upset that the basic game play might change. Then the update hit. Then we realized that it didn't. No bugs here. Only bugs I see are of the 2g owners still, for whom I feel sorry that they can't play a great game. You might be talking about another rare bug that was there from the start - losing your inventory when creating a new world too quickly or maybe when getting call in the middle of it, or something like that. You can back up your data (thanks for the tips from some members who taught me) using the iTunes fileshare. Have a backup of you game data on your computer and if you experience that crash you will be able to reload it. Ok that isn't ideal but they are working on the fix.

@Pixbits and company - I am sorry I doubted you. I am eating my posts write now. I really should have trusted you would make the update amenable for all and you did!

[C.Hannum]

One thing that needs re-iterated:

Yes, some people are still getting hit with crashes that wipe their current inventory. This is not a good thing, and I make no excuse for Pixbits that they have coded a crash recovery system that is not as robust as it should be. HOWEVER, Pixbits did engineer one thing in from the very beginning: the ability to back up all your character and world info from the file transfer dialog at the bottom of the apps tab for your device.

Would it be nice if we didn't need to back our stuff up? Sure. But the feature is there and if you're concerned about losing things, you ought to take advantage of it. If you do this regularly, you can't lose everything, just whatever you gathered since your last back up.

There's more detailed discussion here if none of that made any sense: http://forums.toucharcade.com/showth...112709&page=58

[colourblind.cow]

Originally Posted by New England Gamer

No, he was talking about those of us who were upset that the basic game play might change. Then the update hit. Then we realized that it didn't. No bugs here. Only bugs I see are of the 2g owners still, for whom I feel sorry that they can't play a great game. You might be talking about another rare bug that was there from the start - losing your inventory when creating a new world too quickly or maybe when getting call in the middle of it, or something like that. You can back up your data (thanks for the tips from some members who taught me) using the iTunes fileshare. Have a backup of you game data on your computer and if you experience that crash you will be able to reload it. Ok that isn't ideal but they are working on the fix.

Not talking about bugs for the 2g owners, i have mentioned some of the bugs i have encountered in my game after updating in a previous post. The bugs i mentioned was the retarded spawning of monsters in my house constantly even though there are torches one block apart, as well as the disappearance of treasures that were already on display before the update as well as post update as those that didn't disappear seem to be there merely graphically and nothing else. Neither of these bugs can be solved with backing up my data.

[New England Gamer]

Originally Posted by colourblind.cow

Not talking about bugs for the 2g owners, i have mentioned some of the bugs i have encountered in my game after updating in a previous post. The bugs i mentioned was the retarded spawning of monsters in my house constantly even though there are torches one block apart, as well as the disappearance of treasures that were already on display before the update as well as post update as those that didn't disappear seem to be there merely graphically and nothing else. Neither of these bugs can be solved with backing up my data.

Ok that was buried, didn't see that. But I am pretty sure if you keep a back up and your treasures disappear, loading the back up will overwrite it and your treasures should return.

Spawning of bad guys - can't help you there. Do you have an opening in the roof? A door open? I don't hear that happening to others but I am finding more bad guys after the update overall. So maybe you have an entry point for them?

[New England Gamer]

Originally Posted by C.Hannum

One thing that needs re-iterated:

Yes, some people are still getting hit with crashes that wipe their current inventory. This is not a good thing, and I make no excuse for Pixbits that they have coded a crash recovery system that is not as robust as it should be. HOWEVER, Pixbits did engineer one thing in from the very beginning: the ability to back up all your character and world info from the file transfer dialog at the bottom of the apps tab for your device.

Would it be nice if we didn't need to back our stuff up? Sure. But the feature is there and if you're concerned about losing things, you ought to take advantage of it. If you do this regularly, you can't lose everything, just whatever you gathered since your last back up.

There's more detailed discussion here if none of that made any sense: http://forums.toucharcade.com/showth...112709&page=58

When I went to back up this time I noticed there is a new file as well. In addition to the two .dat files there is a .dat.bak file. I saved it too, but any idea what that one is for?

[arr4ws]

just had a weird bug. I tried to open 1 recipes , and my game crashed to home screen. Did tried multiple time , same problem. I just erased the recipe.

[TimEggers]

Originally Posted by New England Gamer

Believe me, I was one of the first to stamp my feet in protest and say I wasn't going to update. But I did. And I don't regret it. Other than not understanding where to put the new craft pages I found (or in truth, where they landed) it was seamless. The update is fantastic. You still need to find all the pages, they only give you a handful of moves and crafts. So please update, don't hold off for anything other than fear. I was fearful, I did it, so now you can too.

Besides, you are going to NEED to update to the next one which includes making the chests bigger - 48 slots instead of 12 (I think I read?) And then of course there will be the update to include the quests and finally be able to make the mailbox. And discover what the vial is for!

So hold out now, but there really isn't any point. The more recipes you collect now, the more you will have to recollect when you update at a future time.

@Pixbits and company - I am sorry I doubted you. I am eating my posts write now. I really should have trusted you would make the update amenable for all and you did!

Thanks for sharing that, I agree, the update adds so much and doesn't take much (if anything substantial) away in terms of gameplay content. I hope the others that "kinda beat me up" over my observations will try this as open minded as you did and express their impression here.

The best thing about this conversation is so far its been mostly very postive and constructive and the awesome guys at Pixbits have been participating and listening to all the fans.

Junk Jack just keeps getting better and will keep getting better!

[eev]

Originally Posted by New England Gamer

You still collect them - see above.

that's cool, thanks for clearing it out.

[drelbs]

32GB iPhone4, updated to 5.0.1 last night, can still break blocks.

32GB 2nd gen iPod Touch iOS 4.2.1 starts now, but inventory is empty, and I can't break blocks (or kill animals.)

[colourblind.cow]

Originally Posted by New England Gamer

Ok that was buried, didn't see that. But I am pretty sure if you keep a back up and your treasures disappear, loading the back up will overwrite it and your treasures should return.

Spawning of bad guys - can't help you there. Do you have an opening in the roof? A door open? I don't hear that happening to others but I am finding more bad guys after the update overall. So maybe you have an entry point for them?

No not like that. Let me try to explain it clearly. Before the update i had shelves with treasures on them. After the update the treasures still appear to be there. However using a hammer on the shelf will not cause the treasures to fall, rather the shelf will break directly. However the treasures will be floating in midair where the shelf once was. And they cannot be obtained again. I smashed that block repeated with my hammer and still they just floated there. And once i exit and save, and reenter my world, the treasures will be gone. Its as if after the update all the treasures already on display became just that, displays. Their location cannot be moved anymore, and to attempt to move it will just cause it to disappear.

And no, only entrance to my house is the door, and a skull spawned in my bedroom behind the bookshelf. Ironically the skull could not jump past the bookshelf to attack me which means it could not have jumped past the bookshelf to my bed. Hence the only possible reason is that it spawned behind the bookshelf.