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  #1561  
Old 08-12-2012, 02:41 AM
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I give up. I can't play anything without losing connection before wave 6. Also, why are rifles worse than crossbows?
This game seems unpolished considering shooting at a ranged mutant (or any type) does not change their target to you. The AI is worse than most games...
Regarding the internet connection, turn off your 3G if your iPad has mobile data - Scary Guns mentioned it a while back, but the iDevice will try and use 3G if your Wifi drops out, and that causes some serious problems with maintaining a stable connection to the game. Stick primarily to Wifi when playing BTHD.

As for the AI mechanism you suggested, consider this exploitation: two players stand on opposite sides of one mutant, and alternatively fire at it. The mutant will be forced to keep turning its attention between the two players before it's able to begin an attack, which can result in the mutant dying without making a single attack. I'm personally quite fine with the current AI design, because I think a mutant will realistically focus its attention on one player and try to take them out first - if it kept switching its attention every time it gets shot at, you'll end up with the scenario I just described. Sometimes, you just gotta pick one foe and focus on them if there's more than one person hammering you :/
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Old 08-15-2012, 01:15 PM
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Buy yourself a better Internet connection. You shouldn't whine if you're probably connected to a 3G network.

And every weapon has it's advantages and disadvantages, you should just make good use of what you've got. You can't expect to have the best weapon and playing skills on the first day. The game isn't meant for 5-year-olds but rather players who have enough wits to understand the game and move up in skills over time.
This was our universities internet connection... I'm not whining, just saying the game has horrid multiolayer, I can play multiplayer for 30 minutes on other games.


I was just asking why crossbows are better than rifles... Geez, why try to offend me? Not mad just confused at your reply...
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Old 08-15-2012, 01:18 PM
JediKnight JediKnight is offline
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Regarding the internet connection, turn off your 3G if your iPad has mobile data - Scary Guns mentioned it a while back, but the iDevice will try and use 3G if your Wifi drops out, and that causes some serious problems with maintaining a stable connection to the game. Stick primarily to Wifi when playing BTHD.

As for the AI mechanism you suggested, consider this exploitation: two players stand on opposite sides of one mutant, and alternatively fire at it. The mutant will be forced to keep turning its attention between the two players before it's able to begin an attack, which can result in the mutant dying without making a single attack. I'm personally quite fine with the current AI design, because I think a mutant will realistically focus its attention on one player and try to take them out first - if it kept switching its attention every time it gets shot at, you'll end up with the scenario I just described. Sometimes, you just gotta pick one foe and focus on them if there's more than one person hammering you :/
I meant the enemy having a priority so if 2 players are shooting at it you they choose one, what I am seeing is it attacking someone attacking a powerful enemy while I am quietly draining its health without it noticing... I seriously think that is quite (good for me but...) annoying. The other guy is attacking a Drill mech and then he gets attacked by a ranged mutant that is getting attacked by me and I take absolutely no damage? UNFAIR.
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Old 08-15-2012, 02:03 PM
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I meant the enemy having a priority so if 2 players are shooting at it you they choose one, what I am seeing is it attacking someone attacking a powerful enemy while I am quietly draining its health without it noticing... I seriously think that is quite (good for me but...) annoying. The other guy is attacking a Drill mech and then he gets attacked by a ranged mutant that is getting attacked by me and I take absolutely no damage? UNFAIR.
That can actually be a valid strategy, if you think about it. The mutants may want to focus their attack on your own teammate, because it causes your teammate to die much quicker. Once your teammate is down, then they can BOTH attack you.

To put it another way, consider this scenario: it's a 2v2 match, and all participants have the same attack and defence. This is what happens depending on what you choose to do:
  • Both teams split up, and two 1v1 matches occur: A1 v B1, and A2 v B2. Because everyone has equal strength, everyone has a 50% chance of surviving their individual duels.

  • Both members of Team A focus their firepower on B1, while B1 attacks A1 and B2 attacks A2. B1 will die twice as quickly as everyone else because both A1 and A2 are shooting him. When B1 dies, A1 and A2 will have 50% health each, while B2 has full health.

    The problem for B2 is that he has TWO people shooting him now - in the time he takes to kill A2 by removing the last 50% health that A2 has, A1 and A2 can do 100% worth of damage to B2 - someone from Team A will die, but B2 will not survive the confrontation at all, whereas someone from Team A should survive (we're assuming that everyone stands their ground and fires at each other, and no-one tries to run or hide).

Anyway, the idea there is that by focusing all your attacks on one of your enemies, you kill one person faster, and thus the enemy team now has one less person attacking you. That line of reasoning may actually justify the way the mutants behaved towards you and your teammate earlier, under the assumption that they want to kill you more than they want to survive (hence why they're always charging at you, and never hiding behind anything)
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Old 08-15-2012, 07:57 PM
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People prefer crossbows to rifles because they allow you to move around while delivering one shot of high damage rather than having to stay still and take time delivering the same amount of damage.
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Old 08-17-2012, 09:13 AM
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There is one way to record the screen without jailbreaking or a cable, but that requires the use of an iOS device capable of AirPlay Mirroring, together with an app called Reflection. Otherwise, you will either have to jailbreak your device or get yourself some cables.
Thought I should mention that I just recently tried out Reflection alongside Jing and SnagIt (ver 8). The results didn't look too good for the game I was trying out...

Airplay mirroring framerate? Somewhere about 30-40fps after killing most of the other programs on my computer. When I'm trying to record? Even lower, and the airplay screen starts doing some funky stuff if other programs are still open.

Either I need a better processor and/or video card, or Reflection isn't too viable for games...
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Old 08-19-2012, 01:44 PM
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People prefer crossbows to rifles because they allow you to move around while delivering one shot of high damage rather than having to stay still and take time delivering the same amount of damage.
Thanks. I want a RPG now.
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Old 08-31-2012, 05:07 AM
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Something perhaps to kickstart a little discussion, and possibly stir some controversy as well: what are your attitudes towards players who are clearly trying to freeload off of you?

Let's just say I had a recent experience with someone who didn't seem to like using medipacks, or any other boosts. After watching him fall a couple of times, he started using some, so I played a little more supportively. But lo and behold...his medipack usage drops as soon as I offer any support: I waited a little while to see what happens when he's on critically low health, and it took him about 2 minutes of running around with practically no blue in his bar before he decided to use a medipack of his own.

Let's just say, after picking him up about 5 times without recalling any medipack usage, I got fed up and left him on the ground, even after one wave finished and the next began. The fact that he remained in the match led me to conclude he's really just waiting for me to pick up silver and crystals for him, so I actually cut the match right there and then.

Perhaps not the most savoury way of dealing with an uncooperative teammate, I know. But what would your reactions have been, and how do you deal with these types of freeloaders?
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Old 08-31-2012, 04:11 PM
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Perhaps not the most savoury way of dealing with an uncooperative teammate, I know. But what would your reactions have been, and how do you deal with these types of freeloaders?
Well I have experienced that a lot and it is really disappointing to see things go that way.

If that is new player (someone in Leather Jacket and Pants, or someone who doesn't know how to use boosts), I would use every Medipack I can to save him from dying. I would not hesitate using the Medipack if I can observe from him even the slightest bit of intention to stay alive or to play constructively.

But if that person is "well dressed", knows what he is doing and is dying again and again without using a single Medipack, I would stop using my Medipacks, but try to revive him whenever I can, to see him go down again. It is fun to see how these noobs are going to mess around until they die again. Sometimes I would revive them in the middle of the fire from the Artillery Mutants to see how they would die instantly after the revive, and to humiliate them. And if you don't feel like doing all the work, just leave the game. It is no harm doing that, since the game is no fun at all with these free riders.
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Old 08-31-2012, 04:18 PM
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If that is new player (someone in Leather Jacket and Pants, or someone who doesn't know how to use boosts), I would use every Medipack I can to save him from dying. I would not hesitate using the Medipack if I can observe from him even the slightest bit of intention to stay alive or to play constructively.
Full Commander Armour. From the advice that my mentor to this game generously gave me, I know that's quite a decent armour set. Let's just say, I had no sympathy for that player =.="
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