Palm Pre vs. iPhone 2g/3g

[randomdude]

Who do you think will win this epic mobile phone war? Shall our powerful overlord (Apple FYI) come out victorious or will one of the oldest company in the Mobile World come up and decimate Apple? Maybe our overlord has more than a couple of booms for us at WWDC 09?

[GatorDeb]

For me personally:

iPhone: $75 a month
Palm Pre: $30 a month if it works with SERO (Sprint Employee Referral Osomething), the plan I'm grandfathered in.

Which one do you think I'm going for

And the iDevice's battery life is so atrocious I prefer to have my cell/web/texting be a separate device.

[brewstermax]

Nothing from that fail of a company Palm can beat the sexyness and pure innovation contained in the beauty of a device called the iPhone.

[GatorDeb]

Originally Posted by brewstermax

Nothing from that fail of a company Palm can beat the sexyness and pure innovation contained in the beauty of a device called the iPhone.

You wake up five minutes before you're due to be at work, and it takes you 25 minutes to get to work. The Pre will call or text or email your boss and will let them know you're going to be around 20 minutes late. It will turn off your ringer while at work and will turn it back on during the car ride. Etc etc etc.

[brewstermax]

Originally Posted by GatorDeb

You wake up five minutes before you're due to be at work, and it takes you 25 minutes to get to work. The Pre will call or text or email your boss and will let them know you're going to be around 20 minutes late. It will turn off your ringer while at work and will turn it back on during the car ride. Etc etc etc.

Ok, and the iPhone can do most of that too. Maybe not turn off your ringer, but does flipping a switch hurt anyone?

[Eli]

The truly hilarious thing about the Pre is it operates entirely on web kit. Remember how terrible the early iPhone "apps" were that you had to use Safari for that used clever javascript tricks to always hide the address bar?

Yeah, say hello to every Pre app.

Also, Sprint.

In the end, Palm does what it does best in releasing a product that could be innovative, include a heaping help of glaring flaws, and then lock it down to only a small fraction of the interested user base could even buy it if they wanted to.

This revolution in Palm OS is a good ten years too late, and I think the failure of the Pre will be the final nail in Palm's coffin.

[brewstermax]

Originally Posted by Hodapp

The truly hilarious thing about the Pre is it operates entirely on web kit. Remember how terrible the early iPhone "apps" were that you had to use Safari for that used clever javascript tricks to always hide the address bar?

Yeah, say hello to every Pre app.

Also, Sprint.

In the end, Palm does what it does best in releasing a product that could be innovative, include a heaping help of glaring flaws, and then lock it down to only a small fraction of the interested user base could even buy it if they wanted to.

This revolution in Palm OS is a good ten years too late, and I think the failure of the Pre will be the final nail in Palm's coffin.

You are now on my favorite members list. Now, about that infraction you gave me, I'll have to think about that. , but I agree with everything you said. Palm is a fail. Oh boy, lets, rather than making real apps, have a huge development base my making everything in Javascript, Flash, and HTML. Yay, lets have crap for apps, and copy everything that Apple has done great at and fail at it. Let's be the next MICROSOFT.

Sprint. Fail
Palm. Fail.
Javascript and HTML for apps. Fail.

Palm is dead. The only thing to save them is go open source and let the user do what they want with their crap for devices and possibly make a decent looking OS, great. Let the community do what it does best.

[Eli]

The thing is, everyone is trying to out-iPhone the iPhone, and no one realizes that similar to the iPod there is so much more to the iPhone than just fancy hardware. The iPhone leverages the power of iTunes, a program most people already have been using for years to manage and buy music (or maybe even rent/buy videos) to sell applications and handle complete synchronization of your device.

How does this compare to the other iPhone copycats including the Pre? You have to either install some wacky software, use Microsoft Exchange, or know how to set up SyncML (or even know what SyncML is). A good friend of mine operates a chain of AT&T reseller shops and from hanging around there I have become amazed at one thing in particular: How few of the features of most of the handhelds they sell that people actually use. Hell, a vast majority of people who buy Blackberries are only buying them because they want QWERTY for texting and don't even bother with a data plan.

Why? Because even setting your email up on a Blackberry is complicated for your average person, not to mention figuring out how to ever buy or download programs for the phone. The Pre is going to be no different and just another "too little too late" attempt at competing with the iPhone while completely missing the point of what makes the iPhone so great.

In the end, people who buy the Pre will fit in to four categories:

1. Sony Bean owners who have all their music encoded to ATRAC because they hate Apple so much that they refuse to even look at iTunes or any other product with an Apple logo on it.
2. People who are grandfathered in to the SERO plan which is so ridiculously cheap you'd have to be an idiot to ever get rid of it. (I actually have seen people on the howard forums offering to BUY grandfathered SERO accounts.)
3. Confused house wives and kids who want an iPhone but are stuck on sprint for one reason or another and want something similar to use on their family plan.
4. Business people with IT manager who are tired of dealing with managing and operating a Blackberry infrastructure and don't want to make the jump to the iPhone

[brewstermax]

Originally Posted by Hodapp

The thing is, everyone is trying to out-iPhone the iPhone, and no one realizes that similar to the iPod there is so much more to the iPhone than just fancy hardware. The iPhone leverages the power of iTunes, a program most people already have been using for years to manage and buy music (or maybe even rent/buy videos) to sell applications and handle complete synchronization of your device.

How does this compare to the other iPhone copycats including the Pre? You have to either install some wacky software, use Microsoft Exchange, or know how to set up SyncML (or even know what SyncML is). A good friend of mine operates a chain of AT&T reseller shops and from hanging around there I have become amazed at one thing in particular: How few of the features of most of the handhelds they sell that people actually use. Hell, a vast majority of people who buy Blackberries are only buying them because they want QWERTY for texting and don't even bother with a data plan.

Why? Because even setting your email up on a Blackberry is complicated for your average person, not to mention figuring out how to ever buy or download programs for the phone. The Pre is going to be no different and just another "too little too late" attempt at competing with the iPhone while completely missing the point of what makes the iPhone so great.

In the end, people who buy the Pre will fit in to four categories:

1. Sony Bean owners who have all their music encoded to ATRAC because they hate Apple so much that they refuse to even look at iTunes or any other product with an Apple logo on it.
2. People who are grandfathered in to the SERO plan which is so ridiculously cheap you'd have to be an idiot to ever get rid of it. (I actually have seen people on the howard forums offering to BUY grandfathered SERO accounts.)
3. Confused house wives and kids who want an iPhone but are stuck on sprint for one reason or another and want something similar to use on their family plan.
4. Business people with IT manager who are tired of dealing with managing and operating a Blackberry infrastructure and don't want to make the jump to the iPhone

I'm a bit embarassed now to be one of those who got a Blackberry for the above reason. I do want an iPhone though. I'll be getting one on an as-of-yet unknown date. The iPhone is very simple, and setting everything up is a breeze. iTunes is definately a selling point, and true, only FLAC and ATRAC addicts would consider it. SERO is? what exactly?

[yourofl10]

iPhone 3G anyday.

If you MMA it's like this:

Anderson "The Spider" Silva (the iphone 3G) vs. a 5 year old
No contest..... (no offence the the 5 year old) just that Anderson silva can kick any1's *&^.........