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Old 06-25-2012, 01:35 PM
Drummerboycroy Drummerboycroy is offline
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...and that, my friend, is why you wanna stay alive for the bosses :P

The gold the boss will drop decreases with every time you defeat it, but it will reset by the next day (about 11 hours from now, not sure what timezone you're in).

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Also, try using the corner I showed you in our first run, your armour doesn't have enough HP to take more than about 4 hits right now >.>

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...my bad, that time. Aim spazzes out occasionally at times =.="
And how! I've got a shiny new rifle, now to get some armor!

Yeah, my current armor/health is pretty pathetic.

As for the aim thing? I learned how to use a revive!

Thanks again!

DBC
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Old 06-25-2012, 01:45 PM
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If you're not going to make any mithril purchases (I don't think that'll be for a while anyway), get the ECO-03-VI bag if HP isn't your first priority right now. That bag won't give you much additional HP, but it'll give you +1 Speed and 10% more gold. It'll be a worthwhile investment in the long run if you're not eyeing any other backpacks particularly.

If you ARE intending on spending mithril, the SAM-005-I pretty much supersedes the ECO bag completely. Just, yeah...it's expensive >.>
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Old 06-25-2012, 01:59 PM
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If you're not going to make any mithril purchases (I don't think that'll be for a while anyway), get the ECO-03-VI bag if HP isn't your first priority right now. That bag won't give you much additional HP, but it'll give you +1 Speed and 10% more gold. It'll be a worthwhile investment in the long run if you're not eyeing any other backpacks particularly.

If you ARE intending on spending mithril, the SAM-005-I pretty much supersedes the ECO bag completely. Just, yeah...it's expensive >.>
You know how sometimes someone answers your question before you ask it? Below is what I was typing just before refreshing this thread...

So, I just crossed $200,000 again, I've got the rifle you suggested, and I've cleared the first area (5 waves, congrats, the area is safe, here's your reward).

Should I buy the Eco-Pack next?

How funny is that?

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Old 06-25-2012, 02:18 PM
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@DBC: Sometimes, my friends wonder if I might be psychic, with the frequency I do that >.>

@Everyone: It just occurred to me...does everyone have their own special method for learning how to dodge enemy attacks? Because I'm thinking back on it, and most people here are suggesting projectile weaponry (FL334AR, NOVA-27, etc), which makes me think that the majority of players are learning to fight and control crowds at mid-range.

However, for me personally...I think I learnt how to dodge by engaging in CLOSE-range combat. The cutter is supposedly for noobs, I know, but thinking back on it...I think the sword was my primary weapon choice all the way up to Lair. I think I've got a pretty good grasp of the sword's effective range and the range of enemy attacks as a result, but I'm interested to see what your thoughts are.
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Old 06-25-2012, 02:59 PM
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I learned to dodge at close range because I didn't want use that much ammo and didn't want the freedom backpack. I got the windblade and could be the first part of the mantis without getting hit. Then I use the M-2781 and kill the boss. When fighting noobs in PvP I use the sword because it seems itimidating to noobs. Also the reason I like PvP is because of the sniper rifles. I can't destroy heavy armor at long range and so I get good practice dodging attacks until I can slice them to death.

On lair survival I use the windblade for most mosters to save ammo.

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Old 06-25-2012, 04:08 PM
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Is the Cutter even worth buying? I'm considering playing around with a blade, and I've currently got 7 Mithril, so the 2 Mithril blades are out for now.

How does one usually farm Mithril? The videos don't work, so...

TIA!

DBC
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Old 06-25-2012, 04:29 PM
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Is the Cutter even worth buying? I'm considering playing around with a blade, and I've currently got 7 Mithril, so the 2 Mithril blades are out for now.

How does one usually farm Mithril? The videos don't work, so...

TIA!

DBC
I think it is worth buying. I bought the first and last one to save ammo. You farm mithril by defeating bosses and it's by chance. That's the only way except for daily login and video/offers.
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Old 06-25-2012, 09:37 PM
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I think it is worth buying. I bought the first and last one to save ammo. You farm mithril by defeating bosses and it's by chance. That's the only way except for daily login and video/offers.
I think I might just pick up the first one and play around with it...

As I said, the videos don't work, so it looks like I won't be seeing Mithril for a while...

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Old 06-26-2012, 01:41 AM
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Yeah, the primary method of farming mithril is via boss rushes. The videos gave out quite a bit of mithril in the first few days after the latest update, but they seem to have stopped working as of late.

Also, the Cutter used to be OBSCENELY powerful before the Windblade became available, because there was a glitch where you could make the blade strike an enemy three times in a single swing (you heard the slashing sound effect 3 times). That was probably a big part of the reason I was able to use the cutter all the way until Lair, because 630 damage per swing should've been enough to take out even the bull in a matter of seconds.

For the record, part of the glitch still exists: you basically start the two-combo sword slash while you're standing still, and then take a step forward, which will cause you to begin your next swing combo with a decreased lag time. However, that first slash from the second combo used to hit three times, whereas it doesn't anymore. I would suspect they addressed that glitch because it would have made the Windblade utter overkill, both at mid-range (triple wave slashes, anyone?), or heaven forbid, as a close-range weapon.

Anyway...the Cutter's a fairly cheap weapon to buy and upgrade (from memory, I think one or two runs on the Mantis will give you all the cash you need to get it up to level 8), but using it from "Energy Core" onwards starts becoming tricky, because of the exploding "banelings" and the "bull". Very effective training in learning the relative attack range of various enemies though.

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@Darthguy: if you like using the Windblade in PvP, there's a VERY deadly combination I've seen floating around, which is Thunder Armour + Blademaster (bag) + Windblade. When you've got the extra 50% power and +2 speed from the Thunder armour's reusable buff, I think you can kill just about everything in one swing or combo (I'm using a full Cygni suit at 55,000 HP, and I pretty much get annihiliated in a split second when someone using that combination gets within close range of me). On the other hand, your Perseus armour probably negates that combo, because of the 30% reduction in melee damage...decisions, decisions >.>

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Old 06-26-2012, 08:51 AM
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Yeah, the primary method of farming mithril is via boss rushes. The videos gave out quite a bit of mithril in the first few days after the latest update, but they seem to have stopped working as of late.

Anyway...the Cutter's a fairly cheap weapon to buy and upgrade (from memory, I think one or two runs on the Mantis will give you all the cash you need to get it up to level 8), but using it from "Energy Core" onwards starts becoming tricky, because of the exploding "banelings" and the "bull". Very effective training in learning the relative attack range of various enemies though.
Yeah, the videos are no go.

So, it sounds like I should be upgrading the Cutter and my rifle as funds allow, yeah?

I've been practicing in the first 4 waves of the first campaign, using the Cutter exclusively aside from knocking down the flying beasties. I'm still getting hit a bit (dying a few times in wave 4) but I think I'm starting to get the hang of it...

DBC
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