what I am thinking is dedicated gaming console may do no better job than ipad 3

[weehoo]

Originally Posted by Connector

If I had to choose between an xbox 360 and new ipad, I would pick the new ipad hands down. While the 360 plays better hardcore games, the new ipad does everything else better like internet, casual games, photography, music, tv watching, youtube, etc etc etc.

Plus it is portable. Plus I hate paying $50 for a game and find out in one hour, I don't like it.

So hands down, new ipad for me. Don't think I'll ever buy a console game system again, just like I'll probably never buy a traditional laptop again. Don't want to say console games systems are old school and will vanish like arcades of yesteryear, but they could.

Just wish the ipad would get a wireless bluetooth joystick soon. Then it would be a true contender to consoles in gaming.

I think you missed the title of the thread. As you mentioned, the iPad does do everything better, except gaming. So why would you agree that a "gaming" console could be replaced by an ipad if everything you enjoy better about the iPad isn't related to gaming. Trust me, you'll get over your iPad in ...........let's say January of next year.

The iPad is a laptop replacement at best, not a gaming console replacement. iOS gaming has lost its luster to half-baked mediocre experiences, with the exception of maybe 12 games total:

Space Miner
Field Runners 2
N.O.V.A 3
MC3
Marvel vs. Capcom2
Aircoaster
Galaxy on Fire 2
Real Racing 2
Tiny Troopers
Anomaly Warzone Earth
Zen Pinball
Bejeweled

A good chunk of people erase a title or stop playing after 5 minutes (truth be told). When was the last time you did that on a console game? Just saying.

[Varking]

Order and Chaos Online is better than most "MMO's" on consoles. On top of that, the Sacred Odyssey game from Gamelost was a blast, and the entire Chaos Rings series is well made. You are speaking in general opinion terms, and stating it like its a fact when you speak of "these games are half-baked except maybe 12 games".

[klarence]

Originally Posted by weehoo

Space Miner
Field Runners 2
N.O.V.A 3
MC3
Marvel vs. Capcom2
Aircoaster
Galaxy on Fire 2
Real Racing 2
Tiny Troopers
Anomaly Warzone Earth
Zen Pinball
Bejeweled

i think we have more games,not only ones you mentioned .
chaos rings 2, dead space, Great big war , crazy hedgy, chop chop caveman, Death Rally, KOF , Paper Monsters, shadowgun, Swordigo, sega sonic racing, finger shot rpg, the walking dead, spell sword, waking mars, scribblenauts.
just name some of them above.

[backtothis]

In terms of gaming, the main advantages the iOS has over traditional consoles are the variety the AppStore offers and the insanely low costs of games. There really is something for everyone. I can grab a $0.99 game and delete it in 10 minutes without a care in the world, which happens on a weekly basis. $2.99, $4.99, $6.99..whatever. The only "expensive" games there are on the AppStore are Square Enix's RPGs. I actually read reviews for console games before buying them like I do before going to see a movie.

Since this is TA after all, there's really no point in mentioning how good the iPad is for browsing/music/etc. in comparison to a 360. I love the iOS, but I don't think it really offers the same kind of experience console gamers are looking for. They can definitely coexist though.

Originally Posted by Varking

Order and Chaos Online is better than most "MMO's" on consoles. On top of that, the Sacred Odyssey game from Gamelost was a blast, and the entire Chaos Rings series is well made.

1. Order and Chaos isn't even 1% of World of WarCraft.
2. Try a Legend of Zelda game. You'll see that Sacred Odyssey is a pretty incompetent clone.
3. Square Enix charges $60 for their console JRPGs instead of $15 for a reason. The Chaos Rings series can't compare with the modern Final Fantasy titles.

You do get what you paid for though. iOS games aren't the same experience as console games, but they're a hell of a lot cheaper and more accessible.

I have 12,000 posts here and hundreds of iOS games, ranging from Angry Birds to Real Racing 2. I also have a nice library of 360 games. I play freemium builders like Happy Street on the iOS. I've also spent hundreds of hours on "hardcore" PC games like Diablo 3 and StarCraft 2. It really all depends on what you're looking for. When you're waiting in a 2-hour line at the DPS, you sure as hell can't bring your 360 with you.

I do think the iOS is the best portable gaming experience today though. The DS/3DS and Vita aren't too amazing to say the least. I just think it's too hard for big projects to succeed since prices are so flexible on the AppStore. Everything, even if it's by Rockstar or Epic, goes down to $0.99 eventually.

[klarence]

Originally Posted by backtothis

1. Order and Chaos isn't even 1% of World of WarCraft.
2. Try a Legend of Zelda game. You'll see that Sacred Odyssey is a pretty incompetent clone.
3. Square Enix charges $60 for their console JRPGs instead of $15 for a reason. The Chaos Rings series can't compare with the modern Final Fantasy titles.

I agree with you, IOS still can't compete with console in terms of big deep games, but, it depends on what genre of the game is.
For game like Great Big War Game, common, it's deep and complete, need many hours to finish the campagin mode. and it even has a online-versus mode. Even consoles can't offer the same thing and I guess people would not want to play a turn based tactic game in front of TV.
I'd agree IOS may can never compete with console games like Mass Effect due to their limited budget.
But for now, I don't think COD is that superior. This title is a yearly remade of a same game. But MC series is keep improving itself.
COD is still much better, but the gap is shrinking.
let's see something already happened, the amazing spider man(IOS) is already better than it's counterpart of 3ds--which is supposed to be a dedicated gaming handheld.
anyway, i will still buy a console for next gen just for triple A games---btw, I even don't think COD is a triple A game. But I won't buy it when the x720 comes out, I need time(maybe 2 years) to see the new console build it's own library of games.
By that time, how competent the new console is compared with a Ipad 6, I doubt that.

[backtothis]

Originally Posted by klarence

Post.

Yeah, TBS games definitely work better on portables. We'll see what the future holds for the iOS. Things are looking pretty good so far.

[banger1103]

Originally Posted by backtothis

Yeah, TBS games definitely work better on portables. We'll see what the future holds for the iOS. Things are looking pretty good so far.

Yeah but kind of surprised GBWG isn't doing so well on the charts after a good week or two after the feature by apple. Ravenmark is another TBS that doesn't even crack the overall charts. Is it possible that TBS titles are a niche genre? Cause I agree that TBS is perfect for the iOS platform

[backtothis]

Originally Posted by banger1103

Yeah but kind of surprised GBWG isn't doing so well on the charts after a good week or two after the feature by apple. Ravenmark is another TBS that doesn't even crack the overall charts. Is it possible that TBS titles are a niche genre? Cause I agree that TBS is perfect for the iOS platform

TBS is definitely a niche genre. They take a great amount of planning and thinking. Strategy games are pretty much just a niche genre overall. The games that tend to succeed on the charts are big-name titles and "addictive" casual games.

[Issac]

I normally look the other way when I see something as (intentionally?) polarizing as this on a videogame forum, buuuut, here is some food for thought - EA (wheather you like them or not), one of the worlds biggest game publishers, has stated that mobile gaming is one of, if not the, biggest growth sector they have. Also, Epic has stated that in terms of production dollars vs. money earned, Infinity Blade is their most profitable game. More so than Gears of War. (Thanks TA for that info)

I personally love (and mostly prefer) where iOS gaming is right now - a haven for retro and niche games (and just for the record, when I say that I mean 16-bit era stuff, rpg's, Amiga games, strategy, etc.), with the occasional 'big' budget title in there, like IB.

But I could see, and sense that, eventually there will be games with 25 gig file sizes (not any time soon, but within a few years), with tablets replacing consoles.

Even many of the 'AAA' developers are talking about how the PS4/Xbox720/WiiU are going to be the final generation of consoles.

I love the physical copies (though I also love being able to redownload something that I have 'electronically' purchased. Not to fond of the elimination of the used market, though...) and physical controllers; I just feel the industry as a majority is headed toward tablet gaming.

[Varking]

Originally Posted by backtothis

1. Order and Chaos isn't even 1% of World of WarCraft.
2. Try a Legend of Zelda game.

1) World of Warcraft isn't on console. I was comparing Order and Chaos Online to console MMOs. You don't miss much. You can do the same things.

2) I love Zelda. It is my favorite series, ever. I enjoyed Sacred Odyssey because, for me, it was the next best thing to Zelda. Other console games that have tried to be similar have sucked in my eyes. To each their own though.