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Old 04-20-2012, 08:55 AM
heringer heringer is offline
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Heh, it's cute when people go the pretentious "I'm an old gamer" route.

I'm nearing my 30 anniversary and I sure didn't grow up with a cellphone in my hand. If you will have your judgement clouded by this silly awe in front of technology, then you certainly should admit your incapability to judge a game from an objective point of view. In that case, leave the discussion of merits for us that are capable to do so.

It's funny, when Max Payne Mobile released I saw a discussion on another forum, one guy made a joke asking "I bought the game, but how can I move Max and shoot? Where are the buttons?" and someone jokingly replied "you can't, all you do is look at the game and marvel how far we've come with technology. It's way more fun than playing anyway".

So appropriate.
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Old 04-20-2012, 09:04 AM
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Heh, it's cute when people go the pretentious "I'm an old gamer" route.

I'm nearing my 30 anniversary and I sure didn't grow up with a cellphone in my hand. If you will have your judgement clouded by this silly awe in front of technology, then you certainly should admit your incapability to judge a game from an objective point of view. In that case, leave the discussion of merits for us that are capable to do so.

It's funny, when Max Payne Mobile released I saw a discussion on another forum, one guy made a joke asking "I bought the game, but how can I move Max and shoot? Where are the buttons?" and someone jokingly replied "you can't, all you do is look at the game and marvel how far we've come with technology. It's way more fun than playing anyway".

So appropriate.
That guys sound like a jackass .

For the record, these two experiences are not mutually exclusive. You can both be amazed at how far handheld gaming has come and be critical of a particular game's flaws. For example, I am amazed that there is a handheld device that can produce graphics as beautiful as those on display in Uncharted: Golden Abyss. I can also say with confidence that Uncharted: Golden Abyss is one of the worst games I've ever played. One thought does not cancel the other.

With Max Payne, I see no reason why you can't admire the achievement of getting a PC game to run (and play) on a touchscreen device and, at the same time, suggest ways to improve the experience.
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Old 04-20-2012, 09:16 AM
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That guys sound like a jackass .

For the record, these two experiences are not mutually exclusive. You can both be amazed at how far handheld gaming has come and be critical of a particular game's flaws. For example, I am amazed that there is a handheld device that can produce graphics as beautiful as those on display in Uncharted: Golden Abyss. I can also say with confidence that Uncharted: Golden Abyss is one of the worst games I've ever played. One thought does not cancel the other.

With Max Payne, I see no reason why you can't admire the achievement of getting a PC game to run (and play) on a touchscreen device and, at the same time, suggest ways to improve the experience.
Jackass in what sense? As in stupid person? If that's the case, I don't think so, though it's nice to see we are resorting to name calling now. I'll refrain from doing so, though.

If you mean I'm being rude or coming off as pretentious, then I could agree. Only because other people are coming off the same way, though it's funny you only point that out in people you disagree with.

As for the rest of your post, it certainly doesn't apply to the gentleman I'm discussing with. Not when he literally says "in my opinion anyone complaining about this game is ridiculous. THIS IS ON A TELEPHONE.".

But yeah, I'm the jackass when I appropriately answear someone who calls me ridiculous and imply that I'm probably a kid who grew up with a phone in his hand, so I couldn't understand.
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Old 04-20-2012, 09:25 AM
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Jackass in what sense? As in stupid person? If that's the case, I don't think so, though it's nice to see we are resorting to name calling now. I'll refrain from doing so, though.

If you mean I'm being rude or coming off as pretentious, then I could agree. Only because other people are coming off the same way, though it's funny you only point that out in people you disagree with.

As for the rest of your post, it certainly doesn't apply to the gentleman I'm discussing with. Not when he literally says "in my opinion anyone complaining about this game is ridiculous. THIS IS ON A TELEPHONE.".

But yeah, I'm the jackass when I appropriately answear someone who calls me ridiculous and imply that I'm probably a kid who grew up with a phone in his hand, so I couldn't understand.
"That guy" meaning the one who responded in the comments "all you do is look at the game." I'm actually agreeing with your position to an extent. And by "jackass" I mean someone who will make an inaccurate or untruthful statement in the service of a joke.

For future reference, if I ever call you a jackass, I will say "You are a jackass". I believe in writing clearly .
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Old 04-20-2012, 09:36 AM
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"That guy" meaning the one who responded in the comments "all you do is look at the game." I'm actually agreeing with your position to an extent. And by "jackass" I mean someone who will make an inaccurate or untruthful statement in the service of a joke.

For future reference, if I ever call you a jackass, I will say "You are a jackass". I believe in writing clearly .
Oh, ok. Sorry if I misunderstood that. I've got a little defensive in this thread.

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Old 04-20-2012, 01:08 PM
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I've got a little defensive in this thread.
If you go round calling people pretentious I'm not surprised!
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Old 04-20-2012, 11:39 PM
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so u never played games like nova or mc? Those controls are WAY betterthan console joysticks

and regarding your previous post, i dont see the reason to get amazed by the fact taht MP is out 4 the iphone when there are games that are technical achievements for the device, i was excites tho, but not amazed.
I played Nova and MC and wasnt a huge fan of either game. I like most of gamelofts games but first person shooters just dont do it for me on a touch screen. sorry i just disagree w u that the controls are better than analog sticks. Esp not WAY better. Still trying to get used to the touch screen controls for first person shooters. I find it hard to move camera and be accurate. But we can respectfully disagree on this topic and in this forum and have a sensible discussion without attacking each other like we have. I enjoy debates like this and respect your opinion and thoughts and insight. wish more folks had discussions like this instead of jumping down peoples throats as i often find happen in this forum on a regular basis. people can disagree. there is no one correct opinion.
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Old 04-20-2012, 11:52 PM
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Heh, it's cute when people go the pretentious "I'm an old gamer" route.

I'm nearing my 30 anniversary and I sure didn't grow up with a cellphone in my hand. If you will have your judgement clouded by this silly awe in front of technology, then you certainly should admit your incapability to judge a game from an objective point of view. In that case, leave the discussion of merits for us that are capable to do so.

It's funny, when Max Payne Mobile released I saw a discussion on another forum, one guy made a joke asking "I bought the game, but how can I move Max and shoot? Where are the buttons?" and someone jokingly replied "you can't, all you do is look at the game and marvel how far we've come with technology. It's way more fun than playing anyway".

So appropriate.
My point is u @Heringer. I didnt know u were the only one capable of having an intelligent discussion. I guess i should admit i am incapable of objectively judging a game as u say. I made a statement about how awesome i thought it was to have max payne on an iphone and u made some other smart ass remark. How dare i make a statement that disagrees with yours.
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Old 04-20-2012, 11:54 PM
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Oh, ok. Sorry if I misunderstood that. I've got a little defensive in this thread.
You are very defensive. Relax man. its just a fun discussion. why the need to be combative all the time.
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Old 04-20-2012, 11:58 PM
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Great post !

Many older gamers love being able to play some old classics which we remember playing on our original consoles etc. Just like in 15 years time kids of today will love it that in years to come they'll be able to play Halo or something on some small device like an iphone. I'm sure their kids will moan 'dad why are you playing that crappy Halo game....' when their kids have some stunning 3d type of game.

The great thing about iOS is the mix of gaming you can have, can play some of the latest games or some great retro classics. Games are so cheap you tend to buy a lot of different games to play. Like you say just enjoy it rather then being some anorak nitpicking about the odd pixel etc
Completely agree w you @psj3809
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