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Old 06-07-2012, 02:54 AM
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Why not just review every game yourself then?
I don't have the personal bandwidth for that anymore. If you look back to mid-2009ish, I did.
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Old 06-07-2012, 03:28 AM
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I might have interpreted it wrong but, you pretty much don't agree with with the review of your reviewer, and now you want to change it to reflect your opinion and not his?
That's the job of the EIC for every journalism company out there. It's how the industry works, and it's always been that way. If you need help with grammar or spelling, consult a dictionary or seriously reconsider your career as a writer. Besides catching the occasional typo, the EIC's job isn't to edit a review/article as an English teacher.
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Old 06-07-2012, 07:31 AM
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I don't see what the problem is Toucharacde rated it five stars, which it didn't necessarily deserve. The dev, and fans for that matter, shouldn't care what it scored as long as tey know that they like it.
There are games that haven't scored perfectly, but I still like the regardless.
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Old 06-07-2012, 06:44 PM
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Well, In much happier news, Love Me Not was featured by Apple as New and Noteworthy! I'll be making the game universal, I'm working on a touch only input method that's a bit more suited to the iPad.
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Old 06-07-2012, 09:42 PM
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That's the job of the EIC for every journalism company out there. It's how the industry works, and it's always been that way. If you need help with grammar or spelling, consult a dictionary or seriously reconsider your career as a writer. Besides catching the occasional typo, the EIC's job isn't to edit a review/article as an English teacher.
huh. I'm not too familiar about journalism, but EIC's are suppose to just change scores because it doesn't align with HIS opinions? It doesn't seem like a simple 'the score doesn't reflect the writing (which was pretty glowing)' here. Aren't reviews suppose to be subjective? Or are freelancers and writers on TA just ghost writing Hodapp's review?

Why even have the authors name on the reviews when the review might not even really be his/her's? It's a bit odd to make it seem like each author has their own voice even though it's really just Hodapp's.
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Old 06-07-2012, 11:34 PM
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huh. I'm not too familiar about journalism, but EIC's are suppose to just change scores because it doesn't align with HIS opinions? It doesn't seem like a simple 'the score doesn't reflect the writing (which was pretty glowing)' here. Aren't reviews suppose to be subjective? Or are freelancers and writers on TA just ghost writing Hodapp's review?

Why even have the authors name on the reviews when the review might not even really be his/her's? It's a bit odd to make it seem like each author has their own voice even though it's really just Hodapp's.
Ok, just for the record, here's how the editorial process at just about any publication on any topic at all works: writers "submit" their work (these can include either freelance or staff.) The editor reads through it and either:

-accepts the work as is.
-suggests edits or asks for rewrites.
-rejects the work outright.

Now, there are often large grey areas and degrees of editorial input between all of the above outcomes, but in no instance is the editor not a part of the process.

As with all professions in life, there are good editors and not so good. Great ones and downright awful. None of that is particularly relevant here. It sounds to me that what actually occurred was that a piece made it to publication without having undergone the editorial process at all due to human error. The interesting issue (the only issue there is really) is whether it should have been pulled or allowed to stand. (What if this happens in a print publication?) This is debatable, and there are good arguments that can be made for either side, but this probably isn't the place to do it.
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Old 06-08-2012, 02:41 AM
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Well, In much happier news, Love Me Not was featured by Apple as New and Noteworthy! I'll be making the game universal, I'm working on a touch only input method that's a bit more suited to the iPad.
congrats!

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Old 06-08-2012, 03:30 AM
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It is good game. I think, kids play this game easily.
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Old 06-08-2012, 01:36 PM
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No matter what when the dust settles this game will stand on its merit as an amazing game!!!
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Old 06-08-2012, 02:41 PM
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The solution we came up with was to pull the review, email the developer to start a conversation and explain the situation, do the edit pass that got skipped, then re-publish it.
...But, instead of the whole "starting a conversation" step we've got yet another NeoGAF drama explosion.
I don't understand how the 'drama explosion' as you put it prevents you from executing your plan to republish an edited review. Seems to me that that republishing action does not depend on any help from outside the TouchArcade quarters, yet you have not done it.

As an 'innocent bystander' so to say I am a bit at unease about the lack of transparency you have in this situation. I saw the original review, laughed at the comments, and then a day later I could not find it anymore, and then searched the forum for well this thread. And the only reason we are talking about it in this thread is because Uncade blew the whistle (and rightfully so, free publicity) and you were forced to react. But there is no public response on the site itself.

People spent money on games, based on your reviews, you know...
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