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Old 06-22-2012, 04:44 PM
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Old 06-22-2012, 04:45 PM
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What I find outrageous is that the *NEW* and advertised game mode is not included in said $14 price point, it only includes what you already had access to in past iterations.
Erm... You talk about the Boss mode, right? Otherwise, you're wrong. BP2:BL will include the enhanced version (with rearranged enemies /patterns etc.) without IAP. You don't need to buy anything above the normal price to play with the BL version -- and no, you did not have access to it in vanilla BP iOS.

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Old 06-22-2012, 05:17 PM
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Erm... You talk about the Boss mode, right? Otherwise, you're wrong. BP2:BL will include the enhanced version (with rearranged enemies /patterns etc.) without IAP. You don't need to buy anything above the normal price to play with the BL version -- and no, you did not have access to it in vanilla BP iOS.
I did, that's why I said game mode. Don't know enough about the enhanced version to comment on that, what annoys me is the IAP, that's all. Is like launch day DLC, same essence, same faults. Hell, I'd consider more buying the game if it were $20 with everything included, than paying $14 and $6 IAP on day 1, it makes a big difference.
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Old 06-22-2012, 05:41 PM
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If it's out in NZ does that mean it'll be up at 11pm in the US? edit: yes it does, forgot to read OP

Looks like the just slowed down the game for the easy difficulties. Hopefully that means they've emulated the slowdown in the original difficulty fairly accurately. I'm going for 600mil on original mode, I'm ZethGAF on GC if anyone wants to compare scores.

I'm guessing there will be separate leaderboards for the IAP powerups? I want to get that stuff but I don't want to get screwed out of the real leaderboards so I'll wait and see.
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Old 06-22-2012, 05:42 PM
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My point is that the main attraction here is the BL version and we get it for fifteen bucks (which is cheap in my book). The other stuff (boss mode, cheats, whatever) are nothing compared to the main stuff (modified scoring, patterns, enemies, and god mode).
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Old 06-22-2012, 05:46 PM
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My point is that the main attraction here is the BL version and we get it for fifteen bucks (which is cheap in my book). The other stuff (boss mode, cheats, whatever) are nothing compared to the main stuff (modified scoring, patterns, enemies, and god mode).
Exactly. It's about the same price as the 360 DLC. Futari Black Label is one of Cave's best game's IMO. I've put countless hours into BP2 iOS and I'll easily get my money's worth with this.

Let's not forget the PCB goes for a few thousand dollars, and that the 360 port was never released in North America. I'd pay much more than they're asking, but I appreciate these games more than others.

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Old 06-22-2012, 06:30 PM
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Is this some kind of belated April Fool joke!

I have every Cave game so far on iOS, but can't justify paying another £20 on a slightly harder version.

I think I'll pass on this one.
Is that what it is? A harder version of BP2? I also have the full cave collection and love every one of them but if thats the case on this one then ill pass, waiting for some impressions!
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Old 06-22-2012, 06:56 PM
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Is that what it is? A harder version of BP2? I also have the full cave collection and love every one of them but if thats the case on this one then ill pass, waiting for some impressions!
No that's not what it is. You could make the argument that Black Label is easier depending on whether you're playing for survival or score, and which mode. BL Original mode is Cave's easiest 1CC.

Here's a link to some of the differences between 1.5 and BL by EOJ at cave-stg forums. It's not totally complete, for example the overall counter changes every 3000 instead of 500 and sounds a chime each time in Original mode.

Black Label is a very different game. Different scoring mechanics, strategies, patterns, enemy placement/number of enemies, appearance of certain enemies/stages.

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Old 06-22-2012, 07:33 PM
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No that's not what it is. You could make the argument that Black Label is easier depending on whether you're playing for survival or score, and which mode. BL Original mode is Cave's easiest 1CC.

Black Label is a very different game. Different scoring mechanics, strategies, patterns, enemy placement/number of enemies, appearance of certain enemies/stages.
Well, I am very disappointed with cave. When I look at the videos that people have posted, it looks almost the same as BP2 only the bullet patterns are denser. Really, With the different difficulty settings in BP2, I don't know if most people would really care to have more bullets or a higher difficulty.

The games before were very pricey, but now they add inapps, so you kind of have to pay almost $15 more than the asking price of $15 to get cool features that I would find useful like the boss modes. $30? Nowadays great programs like death space, modern combat, batman, crazy hedgy are selling for many times for one dollar. Is this one game worth thirty of those?

I've bought all of caves games except for deathsmiles because it was not universal, so I've defended caves reputation for having high prices, cause I knew the games were good. But now what, inapps for almost everything? You would think that since this is a rehash they would have included them for free. I really dont see many people buying this unfortunately.

And this time cave doesnt seem to be doing its usual early adopters sale. I just hope they dont have ads now, if they do, I will laugh. I used to have respect for cave, I bought all their games, but that was before all this inapp madness and rehashing of old games.

Dang, I was wishing for a hd version of death smiles to come out. So instead of that we get this?

Sigh...
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Old 06-22-2012, 08:19 PM
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Obviously this isn't the place to talk about this kind of game. Stick with Modern Combat and Crazy Hedgy, folks.
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