About Armed Heroes Online vs. Torchlight (response from EGLS)

[Jackyhk]

Woah, kids these days don't even know what racism means. What do kids learn in school nowadays?

[Varking]

Originally Posted by Jackyhk

Woah, kids these days don't even know what racism means. What do kids learn in school nowadays?

I think the kids are getting better at shapes and colors.

[iEdGamer]

From where I see it, OP is evading the main argument and evidence shown by Runic towards stolen assets by diverting the argument to something completely different.

How about those "stolen" sprites and models that bear striking resemblance between AH and TL? And how does the screenshots by OP comparing monsters and heroes that are entirely different be used in defence to Runic's "accusations"?

I believe I have read enough of evidence proposed by Travis and from where I see, OP is going on a different route to cover the fact that they stole assets by arguing on something entirely different.

The best part is, how about those mispelled file names that AH is still using based on TL?

I know that China's good at "forging" stuffs, but can't believe they are also good at being ad hominem by twisting facts to make them sound convincing. Shame on OP.

[SlithyTove]

That was pretty blatant. Can't imagine anyone seriously trying to defend them at this point. And their response is pretty amusing, reminds me of Baghdad Bob insisting the Americans are committing suicide at the gates by the hundreds of thousands as an M1 tank rolls into view behind him.

I doubt we will hear anything from the company again. Generating all the art assets for a game like that from scratch is a massive undertaking even if they really did actually own the game engine. And their rep is severely damaged.

Most likely they will just re-group under another name and try to steal something else.


Good news for Runic though. This debacle turned me on to Torchlight and just netted them a sale. I was turned off by D3s online restriction and RMAH and this might do the trick. I can't be the only one.

[KevinW]

This is outright comical. It really made my day reading this.

First of all thanks to Runic Games. Torchlight is a great game and like a lot of people I can't wait to play Torchlight 2!
What ever you guys decide to do, please look at the bright side, it was probably a lot of free advertising.
"Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery", this is not "imitation" it's outright plagiarism.
Can only imagine how you guys feel, but please laugh along with us for now..

I'd like to take the moment to properly translate "Serena zhang" original response. The reading between the lines, the redacted parts if there were any:

Yes, we stole your assets we also stole assets from WOW and anywhere else we could.

We are shocked that you caught us stealing so fast.
It upsets us that we are caught red-handed by you, and that you point it out to Apple and the whole world.

What are you worried about?? Our game is a mobile game, yours is PC.
Obviously we didn't have to hire any of those pesky artists, but we did have to hire some programmers to put it together. Therefore it is a different game after all.

We attempt to compare two obviously different things "inspiration" and "stealing" as a justification.

We post pictures of a bunch of things we didn't steal from your particular game and compare a bunch of apples to orange models like males to females, archers to wizards, etc.

Steal from Blizzard = Everyone steals = Blizzard = Travis Baldree = great leaders = Runic Games = Diablo = Diablo2 = free.

And so on, some of the most childish and outright moronic attempts at justification, followed by obvious blatant lies.

Also, as if there is any reasoning with insanity, the full translated Confucius (and as if we didn't know who Confucius was) quote is:
“If I am walking with two other men, each of them I will serve as my teacher. I will pick out the good points of the one and imitate them, and the bad points of the other and correct them in myself.”

What you are trying to justify in stealing/plagiarism/pilfering has no application to this quote at all. It's expressing wisdom about learning and self reflection (a luxury you obviously don't have).
Taking the strong points form others and fixing the bad in one's self.
Absolutely no where does it say: "As you walk with other men put your hands in their wallet and see what thee might pilfer".

Here is one from the Bible for you:
“To keep my hands from picking and stealing.” .

Can't stop laughing. Dumb criminals and criminal stupidity at it's worst!

[Aicus]

Just want to point out to those that still didn't know, the game is still running and very active, its operation basically goes underground now. There are patches, bug fixes and things that a proper game have but nothing about them replacing the stolen assets. Anyone can visit the ah.eglsgame.com and see for themselves.

Also like to point out that the game officially gone open beta in China for both iOS and Android with those stolen assets and all.

[Varking]

How about those sound files?

[andsoitgoes]

Originally Posted by Varking

How about those sound files?

Some people believe the Holocaust was a hoax, some people won't acknowledge the sound files being the same.

[ttt]

Seems like game is alive and well for those who can read chinese:

official website: http://zt.ptbus.com/zh/
forum: http://bbs.ptbus.com/forum-317-1.html

[Montanx]

Please release this game, who cares if assets were stolen, if it's a good game I want to play it!