About Armed Heroes Online vs. Torchlight (response from EGLS)

[Hawkn]

At the risk of being banned:

Dear Mrs/Mr. Serena Zhang, you sir/ma'am are incredibly stupid on two counts.

1. Runic is not accusing you of making a game inspired by their game(s) (I'll get to that with 2), but of literally ripping art and assets from their game, and pasting them into yours, then claiming ownership.

As if that weren't the funniest part...

2. Every 💩💩💩💩ing game you listed as an example of Torchlight taking inspiration from was... wait for it... 💩💩💩💩ing made by either Travis Baldree, or Max and Erich Shaefer. Yeah, those guys that run Runic.

Oh, and I got Total Biscuit to point out your stupidity on Twitter. He has over 100,000 more followers than you.

Not to mention stuff like Kotaku, and many other big sites. Have fun with this soon to be media massacre.

[TotalBiscuit]

Oh my, the cutest part of the OP was the FATE comparison. Hey, those guys ripped off FATE! Oh wait, they also made FATE, Runic staff worked on it before creating Runic.

[juv3nal]

Oh man, they actually decided to go to bat and try to defend this?


That is too funny. I mean from a PR standpoint, the way to go would be to throw someone under the bus and claim that management had no idea/we're totally sorry/we fired the loser responsible etc.

But really? They're going to try saying what they did was okay?

That is too funny.

[ednan]

*gets the popcorn*

[Akiratech]

i think the point is runic make a port of the game and dont b***h about being ripped off when you should have done yourself nuff said and done deal :
imma need that app on my desk by five lol

[pr1me]

Holy crap my Twitter feed is exploding with laughter at this "they stole from themselves first!" argument. What a delightful display of schadenfreude.

[Robotwars]

Originally Posted by Akiratech

i think the point is runic make a port of the game and dont b***h about being ripped off when you should have done yourself nuff said and done deal :
imma need that app on my desk by five lol

The scary part is if you read the original forum, people actually tried to use this argument. Really.

Laugh.

[iamthekiller]

When you're so obviously caught red handed, criminals and stupid people often just claim complete denial. There's nothing further to lose at that point and it's crazy enough that some might side with the criminal.

[nickd3000]

Oh wow, the sheer stupidity of this
I'm at a loss for words!

[sakinnuso]

Kind of blown away by the response of EGLS. Maybe due process works very differently in China, but the logic behind what they've chosen as articles to defend themselves is incredibly circuitous.

I mean, Runic and EGLS aren't even arguing the same points. In fact, EGLS never actually addresses the DIRECT POINTS AND EXAMPLES of THEFT that Runic accuses them of.

Okay, big BIG props to TA for turning this fiasco around and putting the argument that Travis presented as plainly as possible with accompanying pictures. How TA has handled the situation is the definition of responsible.

In the original thread, my posted opinion was to close it out and lock the thread, but doing so wouldn't have allowed all of the arguments to mature. Hodap gets credit for keeping things open - which seemed insane at the time - and working behind the scenes to get the entire story out.

Had EGLS publicly admitted that they'd used assets - even feigning that it was without their knowledge - and removed the app, I think that would've demonstrated a company that was reasonable.

Their reply, however, shows that Travis was right when he said that EGLS probably isn't a company they'd want to work with in the future.

Once I saw Patrick Klepek in the thread, that's how you know that "it just got real."