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User Reviews Section

06-01-2009, 12:29 AM
#1
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User Reviews Section

Hi guys,

We opened up a User Reviews Forum for regulars to post their own reviews on games.

The forum has some very strange posting rules for you should read this

- You can only start a new thread in the forum
- You can not reply to a review
- We want all game discussion to still happen in the main discussion forum for games. Feel free to link to your review from the main thread.

We had been meaning to do this for a while, but just kept putting it off. I went ahead and started it tonight.

arn
06-01-2009, 12:33 AM
#2
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,512
This is an awesome idea. I kind of wish Albie (and some others like dogmeat) could have their own section though. I guess searching from within the forum is an option...but grrr, that search button! Also, rating the reviews using the star system could help filter "good" reviews, I suppose.

06-01-2009, 03:35 AM
#3
Joined: Oct 2008
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 1,186
I don't think this is such a great idea

While I generally enjoy Touch Arcade and appreciate the efforts made by and all the hard work put in by the site owners/admins I don't like this change and I don't think that it is a very good idea. What is the purpose of this change? Is the purpose to only have official reviews and discussions? What happens when someone wants to ask a question about the review? Or to discuss the issues the review raises? Or perhaps you don't agree with the review? What do you do then - do you have to do your own review in a new thread or send a PM to the reviewer? I can only see this killing constructive discussion and feedback, not generating it.

And on a related issue - I was recently surprised to learn through another thread on this forum - that Touch Arcade purchases apps for Big Albie to review. I think that this should be made clear to all forum users. Perhaps instead of Senior Member the title for Big Albie should be Touch Arcade Reviewer. Or something that alerts the average forum viewer that Big Albie acts in an official capacity when posting reviews here.
06-01-2009, 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by snow_mani View Post
While I generally enjoy Touch Arcade and appreciate the efforts made by and all the hard work put in by the site owners/admins I don't like this change and I don't think that it is a very good idea. What is the purpose of this change? Is the purpose to only have official reviews and discussions?
Interesting perspective. I think the purpose is to pull out reviews out from the discussion threads. Big Albie amongst others are posting a lot of reviews in the middle of discussion threads and some are creating new threads for them. These reviews are hard to spot otherwise, as they are generally buried in page 10 or 20 of a thread.

The purpose of the section, which is still being fleshed out, is to give them an easy "at a glance" location. I would expect that either reviews or links to the reviews would still be posted in the discussion thread and issue can be further discussed there.

that make sense?

As for albie's official capacity, yes... I've meant to disclose his role here more formerly, but I just haven't had a chance. I think this forum will help a bit as well as once it's up and running more smoothly, we'll have an announcement of it.

arn
06-01-2009, 04:05 AM
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Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 686
Excellent addition to the forum - thanks

Actually - I think posting ability there will probably end up restricted. Someone could make a post there as their first post and how do we know who they are? I'd go for access to be earned by contributing consistently to the forum first.

Last edited by markx2; 06-01-2009 at 04:38 AM.
06-01-2009, 06:49 AM
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Joined: Feb 2009
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Are you at least going to add a reply with link to the game review in the game discussion and / or game thread ?
Otherwise its going to get really confusing if for info you are forced to look through several forums ?

and while i am at it what is the difference between Games and Game Discussions ?

This site is now starting to become confusing, Games is just about games, but no reviews or discussions there ?
Discussions = no info or review ?

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06-01-2009, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by soup View Post
Are you at least going to add a reply with link to the game review in the game discussion and / or game thread ?
Otherwise its going to get really confusing if for info you are forced to look through several forums ?

and while i am at it what is the difference between Games and Game Discussions ?

This site is now starting to become confusing, Games is just about games, but no reviews or discussions there ?
Discussions = no info or review ?
Games = on specific game releases
Discussion = questions or other issues. 'what should I do with $5'

The separation for those two forums is pretty clear I think.

arn
06-01-2009, 08:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by soup View Post
Are you at least going to add a reply with link to the game review in the game discussion and / or game thread ?
Otherwise its going to get really confusing if for info you are forced to look through several forums ?

and while i am at it what is the difference between Games and Game Discussions ?

This site is now starting to become confusing, Games is just about games, but no reviews or discussions there ?
Discussions = no info or review ?
If you read the rules thread I posted about the forum, posting an information block is part of posting a review in that forum.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hodapp
If you're writing a review, please include an information block similar to this one at the top of your post-

Taxiball - Self Aware Games
Price: $1.99 [App Store]
Lite: Taxiball Free [App Store]
Played On: iPhone 3G
Rating: (Whatever rating system you want to use here, completely optional.)
Discussion Thread: http://forums.toucharcade.com/showthread.php?t=13521
Unfortunately, it seems that Big Albie is the only one doing this.

General Games Discussion was created so people would have a place to post their "wat games shuld i get" threads. What was happening in the main games forum was people would post threads for games, they'd get some discussion going in them, then would inevitably get bumped off the first page with threads created asking what someone should get with their remaining $1.66 in iTunes credit.

Not seeing the threads for games that are now on the second page of the forum listings, things get re-posted, then people come in and flame the poster of the second thread for not searching, everyone reports the thread 20 times, and it just goes downhill from there.

Like it or not, games are being released on the App Store at an alarming rate compared to how things used to be. Six months ago we'd see a dozen games released in a week, now we have a dozen or more games released a night. This forum was also a very different place six months ago when it comes to overall user activity. There was just simply too much going on for one forum. Prior to the general game discussion forum mods were forced to either close or move threads that didn't target a specific game just to keep things under control. With the two forums, we can have a dedicated thread for each game and people can post their game recommendation threads.

The review forum was created also in part because of the increased traffic we're seeing. This way, if you want to read some user reviews for a game, all you need to do is either load up that forum, or do an advanced search, select the user reviews forum, then type the name of the game. With the amount of posting we're seeing on Touch Arcade recently it has become very difficult to follow most threads if you're not actively reading it throughout the day, and many high quality reviews were getting lost in the clutter.

People are also really in to linking their own reviews as many places as possible on Touch Arcade, and obviously by participating in the user reviews forum and linking your threads there you effectively sidestep all the self promotion rules.

I know TA veterans don't like it when things change, checking out the social groups this morning was more than enough evidence of that, I'd just like you guys to give this a chance before sharpening the tines of your pitchforks and firing up your torches. Whether or not you'd like to believe it, all of the changes the forums have seen recently have been discussed to amazing lengths between Arn, Blake, and myself. They wouldn't have been made if we didn't think the changes would be positive.
06-01-2009, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by soup View Post
Are you at least going to add a reply with link to the game review in the game discussion and / or game thread ?
I expect the current threads won't change. People post their reviews in them. This will just make them easier to find if they also post them in the user review area.

arn
06-01-2009, 10:52 AM
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Arn,

Maybe reiterate that writers for various sites can post reviews WITHOUT acknowledging or linking to the site where it was first published.

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