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Most Game Genres Have Been Done To Death, What We Need Are More Strategy Games.

06-10-2009, 01:28 PM
#1
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Tower Defense Has Been Done To Death, What We Need Are More Unique Strategy Games.

I don't get it. Why are there soooo many TD games on the iphone, but not much else in terms of strategy games.

Clearly the TD games are selling, that should tell people there's an interest in strategy games.

But why jump into TD, a genre that is horribly overpopulated on the iPhone, make your TD game for the DS or something (there literally isn't a single TD game on the DS!!!)

Make some innovative games on the iPhone, something like Elite Beat Agents and such. There is a lot of other directions for strategy games to go

Games like Scribblenauts (quite possibly the greatest game ever made, and that's NOT an exatteration), Civilization Revolutions, Power Politics III, Zapitalism (A FANTASTIC business simulation game), The Political Machine, and Capitalism and to emphasize again, Zapitalism.

The number of ways that strategy games can go is nearly endless. You can make a business simulation, a politics simulation, a space simulation, a world conquest simulation, a game where you play as the illuminati to create a one world government, toppling countries, starting wars, bribing politicians, fixing elections, manipulating the media, you can make it fun, you can make it serious or light hearted and campy, the possibilities are ENDLESS.

It truly is the one genre of games that hasn't been mined for possibilities nearly as much as the other genres.

And the best part is, the games can be made on a low budget and sold for cheap on PSN, XBL, Wiiware, PSP, DS and iPhone.

Clearly, there is a market for strategy games (considering how many TD games top 100ed so far) of all shapes and sizes. Game developers need to spend less time making huge budget generic action games (Haze, Fracture etc) and start feeding and growing this market more instead.

What are some of your favorite strategy games?

What are some of your ideas for strategy game concepts? Do you like city building sims, world conquest sims, business sims, politics sims, space sims, real time strategy, tower defense, what? Which have you tried?

If you agree with this, spread this post. Post this elsewhere wherever you frequent, I don't care if you copy paste and don't quote me or link to this or anything. Just get this gaming request out there.

Read more about Scribblenauts here...

www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=16184727

Last edited by wikoogle; 06-27-2009 at 12:07 AM.
06-10-2009, 01:37 PM
#2
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 466
wrong forum

However, this game does look awesome..

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Last edited by learjetzoom; 06-10-2009 at 01:48 PM.

06-10-2009, 01:38 PM
#3
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"This is a general game discussion section that is the catch all for discussion about games."

And guess what's being discussed here, games. We're discussing games in the section that is the catch all for discussion about games. This thread meets the describtion for the forum perfectly. So stop playing junior mods already and post something on topic.

This forum has many discussions about game genres. There's literrally dozen of threads in this forum about various game genres. This is such a thread.

The OP post discusses iphone games that are out already, games that should be ported to the iPhone, and a whole genre of games found on the iPhone.

This is the only forum where this thread even makes sense.

Last edited by wikoogle; 06-10-2009 at 02:19 PM.
06-10-2009, 01:38 PM
#4
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Not a big fan of stratergy games personally... though an updated version of Oragon Trail is already avaiable on the iPhone/Touch courtesy of Gameloft.
06-10-2009, 01:41 PM
#5
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wikoogle View Post
This is the iphone gaming forum isn't it?

These are the games that I think need to come to the iphone.

And I want to generally discuss strategy games here.
Yes, but this is the sub-section for games that are already out, of which only Oragin Trail out of your list is (to my knowledge).

And you also mention Dope Wars... well it was rejected then re-released as Candy Wars (if I recall correctly) on the iDevice.

Last edited by K.D!; 06-10-2009 at 01:44 PM.
06-10-2009, 01:42 PM
#6
Joined: May 2009
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Originally Posted by learjetzoom View Post
wrong forum
Instead of just posting "wrong forum", how about actually discussing something to keep the topic going? Mods will move posts when they see them, let them decide what forum it belongs in.

Anyhow.

I do agree about strategy games. I'm a big fan of turn-based strategy (aka card games) and real-time strategy games, and there aren't many titles for those out.
However, genres don't change much. TDs are popular, that's why they get lots of players. I think it boils down to graphics and gameplay rather than the genre itself.

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06-10-2009, 01:44 PM
#7
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wikoogle View Post
Games like Scribblenauts (quite possibly the greatest game ever made, and that's NOT an exatteration),]
While I like strategy games, it's hard to take your posts seriously when your "best game ever" is a game that hasn't even been released yet.

Michael
06-10-2009, 01:48 PM
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Before you critique my characterization of Scribblenauts as the greatest game of all time, I highly highly highly recommend reading about it in the link I provided above, or watching a few youtube videos.

I know that it sounds wrong to hail any game up as the greatest game ever made. But I promise PROMISE you that once you learn about the game, you too will consider it the greatest game of all time.
06-10-2009, 01:49 PM
#9
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wikoogle View Post
Before you critique my characterization of Scribblenauts as the greatest game of all time, I highly highly highly recommend reading about it in the link I provided above, or watching a few youtube videos.

I know that it sounds wrong to hail any game up as the greatest game ever made. But I promise PROMISE you that once you learn about the game, you too will consider it the greatest game of all time.
I don't even know where to start...

*Facepalm*
06-10-2009, 01:50 PM
#10
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This is the forum to discuss iphone games.

The OP post discusses iphone games that are out already, games that should be ported to the iPhone, and a whole genre of games found on the iPhone.

This is the only forum where this thread even makes sense.