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12-28-2012, 02:19 PM
Hmmm....
I'm still confused...

So there's no benefit from buying Satan at the end?
Just another playable char?

Still have the feeling that there's more...
given the not real happy end after beating hard mode.
12-28-2012, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Samhayne View Post
Hmmm....
I'm still confused...

So there's no benefit from buying Satan at the end?
Just another playable char?

Still have the feeling that there's more...
given the not real happy end after beating hard mode.
From the looks of it, yes. Also, I think its pretty much certain that there's no additional mode after hard.

12-28-2012, 11:27 PM
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I've been playing this game the most for the past few days. While there is some repetition involved, I must say that this is a very good game. Might have even sneaked into my Top 10 of the year. Great polish, great characters, great demons, great voiceacting, great cutscenes, great replay value and a decent enough story.

$20 feels wrong on many levels. Had this been anything between $4.99 and $6.99, I would easily recommend it to anyone. Discounting price, it is either a 4/5 or 4.5/5.
12-28-2012, 11:29 PM
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Exact-Psience, you said earlier that since you're a musician yourself you get in tune with the game's beat and its not as hard as such.

I am not a professional musician or anything, but I am well tuned to beats as well (from drums and similar instruments). However, I don't actually feel this game has a "beat" so to say. Sure, at some point you can tap 1,2,3,4 or in a sequence hearing the beat, but is an exception rather than a norm. I don't play other rhythm games - is this normal or do other games have a more profound beat, so to say?
12-29-2012, 02:12 PM
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From the looks of it, yes. Also, I think its pretty much certain that there's no additional mode after hard.
Indeed. I also feel that "hard" is as hard as you can make it.
Yet, I had the immediate feeling that there is more.

Also the description reads:
"(...)Easy, normal and hard are available. But to enjoy the entire story, you have to... ( You'll just have play to find out!)"

Maybe it's really about beating the last boss with Serenity as Serenity.
So no demonic influence..
So no evil choice and no semi-bad end.
12-29-2012, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by defred34 View Post
Exact-Psience, you said earlier that since you're a musician yourself you get in tune with the game's beat and its not as hard as such.

I am not a professional musician or anything, but I am well tuned to beats as well (from drums and similar instruments). However, I don't actually feel this game has a "beat" so to say. Sure, at some point you can tap 1,2,3,4 or in a sequence hearing the beat, but is an exception rather than a norm. I don't play other rhythm games - is this normal or do other games have a more profound beat, so to say?
There are syncopated beats in certain songs but they are beats that go in tune with the taps. The game extends that timing a little so it makes things a bit more forgiving. The accurate beat taps in turn give Criticals, yield higher scores and heal you for a small amount.

As for the timing and off timing (within threshold) that still registers as a hit, exists in all rhythm games. This is what makes rhythm games as such, and is the reason why some dev-claimed rhythm games cant be rhythm games coz they have that more-than-usual timing threshold that, in effect, removes the "rhythm" from the game.

Exact-Psience My 2014 Top 10 Games of the Year: Monster Hunter Freedom Unite, Hearthstone, VVVVVV, Battleheart Legacy, Wayward Souls, Bug Heroes 2, Powerpuff Girls Defenders of Townsville, Deep Loot, Monument Valley, Bioshock Honorable Mentions: Traps N Gemstones, Bardbarian, Goblin Sword
12-29-2012, 09:40 PM
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Indeed. I also feel that "hard" is as hard as you can make it.
Yet, I had the immediate feeling that there is more.

Also the description reads:
"(...)Easy, normal and hard are available. But to enjoy the entire story, you have to... ( You'll just have play to find out!)"

Maybe it's really about beating the last boss with Serenity as Serenity.
So no demonic influence..
So no evil choice and no semi-bad end.
Either that, or I'm thinking winning Satan by using Satan.

Actually, after unlocking Satan, I feel this in itself makes the game SO MUCH harder! He's got just 0.5 def. Three mistakes in a row and you're pretty much gone. Playing with Dontalion on hard is almost easier than playing Satan on Normal.

Will be curious to see if anyone has won with Satan on Hard.
12-30-2012, 02:36 AM
Hmm. Satan wouldn't make sooo much sense.
Storywise and given that he's a pay char.
12-30-2012, 02:50 AM
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Hmm. Satan wouldn't make sooo much sense.
Storywise and given that he's a pay char.
It actually makes sense that you get more if you pay more... Doesnt it?

Story-wise, the game is twisted as it is so i wont be surprised if they pull a curveball on this one.

Exact-Psience My 2014 Top 10 Games of the Year: Monster Hunter Freedom Unite, Hearthstone, VVVVVV, Battleheart Legacy, Wayward Souls, Bug Heroes 2, Powerpuff Girls Defenders of Townsville, Deep Loot, Monument Valley, Bioshock Honorable Mentions: Traps N Gemstones, Bardbarian, Goblin Sword
12-30-2012, 04:43 AM
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Hmm. Satan wouldn't make sooo much sense.
Storywise and given that he's a pay char.
Yea, that is true indeed. From the official description:

* Purchasing the game allows you to play all stages through to completion.

I think there is no more to see. But I can be very wrong. One of my New Year's resolution will be to beat Satan with Satan.