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09-20-2012, 05:13 AM
#61
Joined: Jan 2012
Location: Philippines
Posts: 20,148
I dont mind the current model. I bought the game, but never used any IAP yet. To be honest i dont really find a use for it. Currently on normal difficulty.

It isnt Elite Beat Agents, but for me, it's still one of the better music apps on the iOS.

I just love it despite not being able to use the other personas.

EDIT: And if it's any consolation, i only used Default Serenity because i like her beat better than Asmodeus.

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Last edited by Exact-Psience; 09-20-2012 at 05:27 AM.
09-20-2012, 06:42 AM
#62
Thanks for the info! I was about to click on the purchase button when I read your post. Sad that SE has to resort to this kind of paidmium format.

Guess I will skip this..

Quote:
Originally Posted by kioshi View Post
This is likely the most 'paidmium' game in iOS history if you want to get all the stuff (and besides the maximum difficulty, I bought the game thinking I was getting all that for 6.99, silly me).

Basic game: 6.99
Max difficulty: 9.99
11 costumes, 2 free, 9 purchasable (they look really good btw, unlocked 3 so far but haven't bought any): 2.99 x 9

Just 43.89 USD!

And there's more! If you want potions to help you restore hp during one stage, they're 0.99 each one or 3.99 for 5 stages (haven't looked the price for the 3 stages one), with no option at all to buy with some kind of ingame currency! I'm playing on Easy since you have to play through this to unlock normal so haven't needed potions (it's REALLY easy), but there should be a way to acquire them ingame.

Glu Games is starting to look like a very nice developer now.

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09-20-2012, 08:24 AM
#63
Joined: Feb 2010
Location: Kanagawa, Japan
Posts: 16
I don't know what Square Enix is trying to do.
I was just surprised when I read about how the IAP works in this game for the international players.

The game released in the Japanese App Store doesn't have the IAP for unlocking the costumes. Just finished through the easy and normal difficulty and I was able to unlock and use the costumes after finishing each stage so far. But for healing items, you need to buy the IAP.

So over here in Japan, players are giving thumbs up to Square Enix for not using the IAP so heavily.

I noticed that the pricing is different also. It costs 1,500yen to purchase the app in Japan store, and that's almost double the price compared to the US store (calculating by $1=78). But I think it's still unfair since from what I read in this thread it costs almost $50 to completely unlock all the costumes plus the MAX difficulty.

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Originally Posted by Tropxe View Post
I have a feeling that this IAP-heavy sales model may be an anti-piracy measure.
Yeah, but still just for buying 9 costumes will cost more than the app's download price in Japan.

So weird...huh?
09-20-2012, 09:18 AM
#64
Joined: Apr 2012
Location: Far far away
Posts: 315
If they let you unlock characters without paying real money i would buy this game instantly but sadly its not the case
09-20-2012, 11:41 AM
#65
It depends

Iit depends how the model works for you. If you're a casual player then you won't be forking out $43 or whatever in one go. It might take weeks to use up the $2.99 incremental IAP. And stretching it over weeks you wouldn't mind paying $2.99 at a time.

IF its a good enough game, with plenty and plenty of gameplay and has good replayability then go for it. I find most SE games keep me going for ages and I love the quality and quite happily pay premium because little by little. Of course if you're aiming to finish it in one go then OUCH IT HURTS,!

But I would rather spend $3 at a time on a real good quality game from SE than spend the same amount of money buying trash program's.

So it comes down to how much you like the game. Since I got my iPad I've hardly played on my PC which surprisingly has SAVED me heaps of money. So if this is really good then it's far cheaper than a PC game for $70. If I prefer gaming on my iPad then I'm saving heaps of $$ only because I'm getting the same fun factor or more than on my PC but at way lower prices. So if its really good then I would much rather spend $40 on it than some game on steam for $70-90 that turned out to be no good. I've got a very high end GPU but I enjoy my iPad for gaming more than my PC so it's way cheaper.

The only question for me then is is this a really, really good game? I don't have to fork out all the $ at once like on Steam so if its really, really good why not?
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09-20-2012, 03:04 PM
#66
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,630
I'm confused...do the IAP purchases open new levels or just costumes?
09-20-2012, 05:31 PM
#67
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 28
There's an initial short first portion to each level which is unique to the character you pick, with music different from the boss' stage.

IAP is as follows (possibly spoilers?)

Default (Serenity) - included with game
Asmodeus - included with game
Belial - $2.99, unlocks on Easy
Eligos - $2.99, unlocks on Easy
Azazel - $4.99, unlocks on Hard
Berith - $2.99, unlocks on Easy
Dantalion - $4.99, unlocks on Hard
Beelzebub - $3.99, unlocks on Normal
Lilith - $2.99, unlocks on Easy
Astaroth - $3.99, unlocks on Normal
Satan - $9.99, unlocks on Hard, unlocks Hell difficulty?


I played as default Serenity through most of the game, then bought Dantalion because I like ZUNTATA, ...and then my character became pretty much invincible for all of Hard mode, at the expense of my score. But that said, I think I'm stopping there. Not enough of a fan of the music or the game to want to play through Hell difficulty.
09-20-2012, 08:31 PM
#68
Joined: Apr 2010
Location: California, USA
Posts: 3,955
Quote:
Originally Posted by Exact-Psience View Post
I dont mind the current model. I bought the game, but never used any IAP yet. To be honest i dont really find a use for it. Currently on normal difficulty.

It isnt Elite Beat Agents, but for me, it's still one of the better music apps on the iOS.

I just love it despite not being able to use the other personas.

EDIT: And if it's any consolation, i only used Default Serenity because i like her beat better than Asmodeus.
I've been using default Serenity as well. I've been playing for awhile, and beat 4 or 5 bosses, but to me, I must say, this game just isn't really fun! Playing on 'normal' setting, but there's absolutely no spark here to keep me playing on. Probably gonna delete it. Haven't felt the need to buy the IAP myself but repetitive nature in itself here is enough to stop playing it. Can't put my finger on it, just no 'snap'. Kinda boring after a short while, that's all. Bland.
09-20-2012, 10:36 PM
#69
Joined: Apr 2011
Location: Brazil
Posts: 882
Slidetoplay gave this game a 2/4:

"Only one extra outfit is free, and Square Enix made the greedy choice to require a $3.99 in-app purchase for each of the new outfits you unlock. They call this "signing a demon pact", so you won't even realize you're about to be charged until after you hit the "sign pact" button. At the very least, they should make the purchase price clear inside the game, but really, each of these outfits should be a free bonus for progressing through this $6.99 game.

Unlocking outfits isn't just aesthetic-- they'll also change the background music for the first part of each level, which is essential for keeping the gameplay varied."

http://www.slidetoplay.com/story/demons-score-review
09-21-2012, 12:07 AM
#70
Joined: Apr 2011
Location: Brazil
Posts: 882
Quote:
Originally Posted by pentarou View Post
There's an initial short first portion to each level which is unique to the character you pick, with music different from the boss' stage.

IAP is as follows (possibly spoilers?)

Default (Serenity) - included with game
Asmodeus - included with game
Belial - $2.99, unlocks on Easy
Eligos - $2.99, unlocks on Easy
Azazel - $4.99, unlocks on Hard
Berith - $2.99, unlocks on Easy
Dantalion - $4.99, unlocks on Hard
Beelzebub - $3.99, unlocks on Normal
Lilith - $2.99, unlocks on Easy
Astaroth - $3.99, unlocks on Normal
Satan - $9.99, unlocks on Hard, unlocks Hell difficulty?


I played as default Serenity through most of the game, then bought Dantalion because I like ZUNTATA, ...and then my character became pretty much invincible for all of Hard mode, at the expense of my score. But that said, I think I'm stopping there. Not enough of a fan of the music or the game to want to play through Hell difficulty.
Well if as you say the Normal and Hard costumes are 3.99 and 4.99, you can add 6 bucks to my calculations so instead of 46 USD, the game + Satan + costumes cost 52 USD and change.