Advertising and TouchArcade

[dannys95]

ngmoco pays for the ads = Yes
ngmoco pays for good review = NO!!!!!

In case you have not noticed Hodapp writes huge reviews (no offense, what is your mark bro like 1000 words? ) for all games. I can't believe people think reviews are influenced by that.

[menom]

Originally Posted by jonlink

Irony
a state of affairs or an event that seems deliberately contrary to what one expects and is often amusing as a result

congrats again - you made my point for me perfectly!

Please be aware that for something to be ironic - it in no way has to be deliberate

I think you may be confusing a statement utilising irony with something - some action which proves unintentionally to be ironic

Irony is something deliberately employed - something Ironic is another thing all together

all the best, and good luck with your ongoing enlightenment

[arn]

Originally Posted by krikaoli

Ok, everyone is right to have its own opinion, but c'mon guys, ngmoco pays you for adv, and I think thats the main reason you wrote so well about this game. 5,99 for a weak game like this?! This game, as I said before is far away from Geo Defense or even Fieldrunners.

Almost by definition, we can't please everyone with our opinions on games. The only difference this time is that people can point to advertising and blame it. There was another game that had very polarized reactions to the review:

http://toucharcade.com/2009/04/22/un...ack-and-slash/

I'm sure if Underworlds had advertised the game on the site at the time, we would have been accused of the same. I've said before, Eli is a freelancer. He knew about the ads at the same moment everyone else on the site knew about the ads -- which is to say when they first appeared on the site last week. Eli had already formed an opinion of the game before that.

Second, I'm not one to point to others to justify anything, but I've not found a negative review on any other review site. If you are convinced we were paid off for the review, you will have to invoke a conspiracy theory in which every other review site was simultaneously paid off as well.

IGN 9/10: http://wireless.ign.com/articles/992/992273p1.html
STP "Must Have": http://www.slidetoplay.com/story/star-defense-review
IPGN 4.5/5: http://www.iphonegamenetwork.com/star-defense-review
Know Your Mobile 4.5/5: http://www.knowyourmobile.com/mobile...se_review.html
AppVee: 4/5: http://www.appvee.com/t/star-defense
Grandecom.net "best ... since Fieldrunners": http://portal.grandecom.net/games_ch..._rip_id=992273
Destructoid: 8 -- Great: http://www.destructoid.com/review-st...e-135784.phtml
PocketGamer 9/10: http://www.pocketgamer.co.uk/r/iPhon...ew.asp?c=13714

Can anyone find a bad review from an established review site?

arn

[krikaoli]

Sorry if my post seemed lame and if my grammar is not good. I'm not a troll, and my bad english must be improved. Here in Brazil the only way I improve english is reading sites such as toucharcade, reading The Economist or playing some game.

As it was well said, Stardefense got a lot of good rates in other reviews. I'm trying to find any bad review of this game, but I'm not succiding... That is very strange! Phrak!

Sorry if I seemed agressive at my point of view, but the fact is that I really like toucharcade and really disliked the game we are discussing. As my colegue suggested me, I have already given my review and I think my part is done while being a responsible reader.

And congratz all forum staff and toucharcade members, you conducted a very responsible, democratic and kind space for our point of view. (Hodapp you wrote a nice review I just not share the same opinion, my apologies again for the brute way of showing it. By the way I used to play starcraft tower defense, then warcraft... really enjoy this genre.)

PS: all the lobby a game company do must make some kind of dark side influence even you deny it. Yes, I do believe if I were right it is a totally conspiracy theory.

[menom]

Originally Posted by krikaoli

Sorry if my post seemed lame and if my grammar is not good. I'm not a troll, and my bad english must be improved. Here in Brazil the only way I improve english is reading sites such as toucharcade, reading The Economist or playing some game.

As it was well said, Stardefense got a lot of good rates in other reviews. I'm trying to find any bad review of this game, but I'm not succiding... That is very strange! Phrak!

Sorry if I seemed agressive at my point of view, but the fact is that I really like toucharcade and really disliked the game we are discussing. As my colegue suggested me, I have already given my review and I think my part is done while being a responsible reader.

And congratz all forum staff and toucharcade members, you conducted a very responsible, democratic and kind space for our point of view. (Hodapp you wrote a nice review I just not share the same opinion, my apologies again for the brute way of showing it. By the way I used to play starcraft tower defense, then warcraft... really enjoy this genre.)

PS: all the lobby a game company do must make some kind of dark side influence even you deny it. Yes, I do believe if I were right it is a totally conspiracy theory.

Troll!

funny how you have bad English but understand what 'Troll' means in this specific sense!!
congrats on your speedy learning of non-Portuguese terms to describe deliberately argumentative posters

This is my last post on this topic as the people I'm responding to have shown themselves to be no match for pure logic - very disappointing, I must say - I remember the days when trolls were made of sterner stuff ... very poor indeed ...

[krikaoli]

Originally Posted by menom

Troll!

funny how you have bad English but understand what 'Troll' means in this specific sense!!
congrats on your speedy learning of non-Portuguese terms to describe deliberately argumentative posters

This is my last post on this topic as the people I'm responding to have shown themselves to be no match for pure logic - very disappointing, I must say - I remember the days when trolls were made of sterner stuff ... very poor indeed ...

Thank god it is your last post! Cheers!

Your are not adding anything positive in this discussion besides your arrogance and lack of everything else.

I learned what troll means with your ... posts. I wish you were a fast learner too with your superior "pure logic".

[arn]

Originally Posted by krikaoli

Thank god it is your last post! Cheers!

Your are not adding anything positive in this discussion besides your arrogance and lack of everything else.

I learned what troll means with your ... posts. I wish you were a fast learner too with your superior "pure logic".

for what it's worth krikaoli, I appreciated your follow up post.

arn

[jonlink]

Originally Posted by menom

congrats again - you made my point for me perfectly!

Please be aware that for something to be ironic - it in no way has to be deliberate

I think you may be confusing a statement utilising irony with something - some action which proves unintentionally to be ironic

Irony is something deliberately employed - something Ironic is another thing all together

all the best, and good luck with your ongoing enlightenment

Ironic (adj) using or characterized by irony

You'll need to write some letters to people who make the Oxford Dictionary. They'll be interested to know they're wrong.



Back to the point. I think that it is productive that we finally got Arn to admit the whole this is a vast conspiracy.