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View Poll Results: What would purchase price would you feel is value for money
I'd rather not seen any In app purchases and an upfront app price (2.99) 15 83.33%
In App purchase of new Campaigns (bout 5 maps+cutscenes) (89 cent) 1 5.56%
In App purchase of additonal unit types for your Cabinet(army units) (89 cent) 0 0%
In App purchase of Additional resources to upgrade your Units (89 cent) 0 0%
I feel new Campaigns should be free, and only additional units and resources should be purchases 0 0%
I feel I would pay for extra campaigns and story, but not for game boosting purchases such as units 2 11.11%
I would not pay at all for this game, the way it looks now. 0 0%
I prefer advertising and banners if the game is free. 0 0%
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Old 09-05-2013, 07:08 PM
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Default Oberon's Court,Official Trailer released








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Oberon's Court, Shadow Chains.


news:
PocketTactics.com recently did a really nice feature on Oberon's Court, check it out here:
http://www.pockettactics.com/feature...oberons-court/


A 3D real-time strategy game coming to IOS (and Android/windows)

In Oberon's court you'll take command of squads of restless souls that you have chained and bound to your will. Recover resources such as bone, blood, steel and essence to customize the shades you've claimed from their resting places.

Game-play is Squad based, with individual commands such berserk, flee, vampirism and more per unit available on attack stages.

The entire game is developed without the use of textures to create a unique visual style, and allow the 3D graphics to run on mobile devices. With a focus on fast paced combat, unit alchemy and resource detection.

The initial release will focus on campaign based storytelling, following the player as he discovers the world of Oberon's Court and chains increasingly powerful souls, ranging from humble squires and foot soldiers to the souls of crusader knights and kings. Where the former will transform to low level units such as bodgers and hare knights, and the latter weavers and other powerful squad leaders.

Each soul will be bound to the player's "cabinet" and improve persistently between maps and campaigns.

Gameplay:

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Features:
  • Fully 3D RTS/adventure for mobile devices
  • Created using 3d art without any textures, anywhere in the game
  • Fully Voiced Characters
  • First release will feature the "Shadow Chains" campaign, worth several hours of gameplay
  • Visit 3 unique settings in the first release, with many maps each
  • Enter any structure, keep or dungeon on the main maps to visit the dungeons of the elder shadows.
  • Upgrade your units and squads over time, persistant units throughout the
  • campaign
  • Upgrade your units with special abilities, such as beserk, Lightning spells,
  • Sacrifice and more
  • Capture lost souls on the battle field to supplement your army
  • Discover Oberon's true intentions, and the nature of the underworld
  • Non-linear campaign, backtrack and sidestep through directly connected maps



Art Album:
http://forums.toucharcade.com/album.php?albumid=1631

Release and practical data:
Oberon's Court is planned for a Q1 2014 release.
Premium app $4,99 all future updates and campaigns included in premium
http://www.oberonscourt.com

Devices supported:
  • Ipad2
  • Ipad3
  • Ipad Air
  • Ipad mini
  • Ipad mini 2
  • Ipod touch 5thgen
  • Android 4.3 and higher tablets and smartphones
  • PC/Mac

Developer:
The game is being development by Boof Games.


Like and participate in development: http://www.facebook.com/oberonscourt

View past news items and more in-depth info at IndieDB:
http://www.indiedb.com/games/oberons-court

Some news clippings:
http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/04/10/oberons-court/
http://www.indiegamemag.com/oberons-...re-and-flames/

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Old 09-08-2013, 06:19 PM
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Default Added a Poll, Really interested to know potential players thoughts on monetization.

We all have to make a living. I'm in the lucky position that I'm free to decide how Oberon's court should work commercially.

Now the easiest way is just to load it up with timed gameplay and such, which as a gamer I really hate, so that's never going to happen.

What I'd prefer is to create episodal content in the shape of new campaigns. And offer these campaigns as In app purchases. Each campaign would be 4-6 maps, strung together with realtime cutscenes and ingame dialogue.

Initially the game would then be free with the first or first few campaigns included, as well as potentially a random skirmish map(to train your shades, and upgrade them.

Somehow that seems the least obnoxious way of seeing some returns on this game. However there is also the possibility to add In app purchase for other stuff, and here I'm thinking about unique new unit types and simple resource boosts and special abilities. (that otherwise would have to be earned in combat).

Now the nature of Oberon's court is that a new unit type would just be a shell for the player to fill in and customize, but resource boosts would actually be a way to boost your playing speed. Which for me is a bit of a no-go(as you would lose the natural and designed player progression and gameflow).

How do you as a potential player feel about any of this. Now is the time to speak up and make your mark. Its just me over here and I am paying attention to what everyone would want most.

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Old 09-09-2013, 10:31 AM
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Nice looking game here..Kinda reminds me of Don't Starve by KLEI..


Good luck with everything..Especially the release.
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Old 09-10-2013, 01:11 AM
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Very interesting graphics look.
RTS isn't that much of my thing anymore (getting too slow), but guess I'll give this a try anyways.

Question for the Muppet:
Why realtime and not the more relaxed turnbased?

Also, you forgot "none of the above" in your poll
As a firm believer in good prices, I'd range this at 10 for the base game, and - I don't know - 5+ for campaign expansions and extra content packs (e.g. a new set of units).
A lite version to give it a try for an hour or so would be appreciated then.
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Old 09-10-2013, 02:26 AM
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Hi guys,

The reason for not going turn based was basically threefold,
A) I preferred to design and animate something with a smooth feel to it, Turn based sort of limits your options design-wise.
B)There's a lot of turn based strategy already out there in the apps-store.
c)It's a design challenge to myself to see if I can make Real-time easily to control and and flow smoothly.

One of the core goals was to make combat feel more like a joust, and not your typical RTS slugfest. ALways find it strange when units are hacking away each others lifepoints. In real-life melee combat, its usually decided in one or two seconds, which guys is left standing and which guy is going down.

Especially if you'r using a stats based system underneath, why wait for the end-result, the outcome has already been decided, and 9 out of ten times you won't or can't retreat your units anyway..

So Probably on the same page as you, speed is where its at.
But actually I started out with a Turn-Based System (the levels are build up from hexes).
But found that with the combat I had in mind (basically instant outcomes) Turn based wasn't required, and took away some of the urgency.

In conclusion, I'd also say RTS perhaps doesn't cover the load very well, as you'r controlling squads, and there's no expansive base building. (there is resource gathering though). But control wise, the squad approach, with a single leader, gives a bit of a DOTA feel. But without any multiplayer in the first release, I can only call it a RTS offcourse.

BTW, impressed with your pricing, but I feel that would be too high, I think as a fairly unknown name in the app-store the game should be priced aggressively, to even stand a chance.

On the other hand I often find myself skipping 2.99 or free titles as I assume these would be too casual or cheaply made for my tastes, is this something you guys also have?

cheers
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Old 09-11-2013, 07:52 AM
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Thanks for taking the time to answer, much appreciated.
And squad-based sounds less hectic than your usual RTS , much better for slow folks like me.
No idea what you'd call that officially, Real Time Tactics maybe?

I have a very specific taste in games, so almost 100% of the Appstore do not interest me at all anyways
Most of the games I consider great quality also have "high" (well, for iOS) prices, e.g. XCOM, Baldur's Gate, anything from Spiderweb, gamebooks, you name it.
In the Roleplaying and Strategy sections of the Appstore, high price is almost always a high quality mark, so I look for those first. Free stuff I almost completely ignore, most of those aren't down my alley anyways.

And yes, I firmly believe in good prices for good quality. Working in enterprise IT for quite a few years now, where prices can easily have 4+ digits (before the comma, mind you), not to mention full price PC and console games, I have a different outlook on pricing than your average "I wait till it's on sale!" customer

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I see where you'r coming from, and I'm the same way. Maybe I'll do it at 5.99 that's a nice mid-range price. I'll have to make sure that the campaigns are longer to give a good value for money.. I think I simply prefer the up-front pay to play model, and I can take the added risk. I don't have to live of the income from the game.

I will still have to add some In app purchase, just to redeem some income from android, perhaps a token 79 cents for added campaigns..

I'm wondering if apple will approve giving away the same IAP in a paid version for free, and having it for 79 cents in the free version.. (basically making sure paid up users, get better value for money)

What I really would like to do is add a pre-funding IAP, where you can choose to invest X amount in an IAP that will unlock once its developed and funded. Like a mini Kickstarter.
.But that's not allowed by apple sadly.

Still I notice you play Ravenmark, their campaigns offer great value for money, and I don't think i'll be able to produce the sheer amount of content as they did per campaign.
But its a model I really liked, and happily sank in some cash..

anyway, musing bout it..Thanks for the reply as well. Gotta keep up the solo pre-marketing effort, so any action is appreciated.
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Okay, Warhammer is an established brand so the situation is quite different, but have a look at their pricing model: all the add-ons together cost way more than the core game, ending up at a decent price. Baldur's Gate did something similar.
Maybe that is something for you, but on a lower tier.
Say, 2-5€ per content pack (campaign/characters/etc.), depending on its size / added value compared to the core game.

Ravenmark is quite different in terms of (back)story:
As far as I know, they had a ton of material already, because it originally was their pen&paper setting & campaign for years. One of them even produced a boardgame version prototype that looked ready to ship on the pictures.
Cannot remember exact details, but originally they had the additional campaigns as IAP add-ons as well. If you want to know more how they did it, send them an email; they are very friendly and helpful guys.

And if you can match them in terms of impressing me, I will drink a few beers to your health
Because then you did an incredible job.
You will share some very lofty heights with a few other games in my all-time hall of fame; namely Ravenmark, Master of Magic, the Avernum iOS games, and Planescape:Torment (which holds top spot for as long as I can remember).

No idea how things work with Apple. The different priced IAPs might work, if Apple treats the full and light version as two separate games.
As for the funding IAP: you could offer a small content pack, and expand that one later for free. Or add a donation option. Solomon's Boneyard has that, so apparently it is alright with Apple to do so.

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Hmm, good points, I'm going to see if I can verify Apple allowing some donation types. Would be more inline with the soft approach i'm after.

And I'm currently working my ass off getting the game to a state where its impressive. Next post I'll add some footage with a touch indicator to show where i'm at currently. but still a long ways to go.. Knee deep in deciding if I want a classic resources model, or an in between map levelling/rewards resource model. I'm thinking on an an Ipad or iphone resource gathering the classic way and upgrading units will just be to fidgety.

So for now my idea is the following.

Each of the three squad can summon a relic (if the current location has one hidden so to speak).. The first squad(dragon/weaver) will gain immediate combat buffs for every friendly unit in the relic's radius of influence (this squad can only raise steel(attack) and bone(defense) relics, once it leaves the relic's radius, the relic crumbles and that resource location is depleted)

if the second squad(denmother/big ass badger) raises a relic it will grant health(blood) and stamina(essence) buffs to units in the radius, Same as the first squad, squad leaves resources are depleted

third squad (spider) will raise a relic of any of the 4 types but as long as the squad is around the resources get harvested to your inventory, to be used for unit purchases and end-level rewards (to level up your army in between maps)

Its a simplified model, but it has the great advantage of visualizing friendly effects. Plus it will give an immediate status visualization of an enemy squad (are they gathered around a bone totem, better get some offensive units or raise a steel totem nearby)

I'm sort of obsessing about visualizing as much of the tactical state of things with a minimum of interface or stats in view..

anyway, great feedback, hope to have some more visuals soon. Here's a wallpaper just for kicks , Image links to hires source.

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So need some help here, I'm running up against the UI wall here. I Still feel you need to be able to summon up some basic unit stats.

So I've decided that a static long press down, will summon up stats on units., but I'd only like to display as little as possible. So here's where I need some help, I've put some design thoughts I've got in this image. Is there a winner among this bunch? let me know?

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